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Should you vote for and support policies that benefit only the rich as you wait to win the lottery?

Yes [ 10 ]  [18.52%]
No [ 44 ]  [81.48%]
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sully16's avatar - sharan
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Posted: May 13, 2012, 10:09 am - IP Logged

"HERE I AM TO SAVE THE DAY" MIGHTY GOOGLER!!!!!!! US Flag

 

The national problem is our belief in the "American Dream." Too many citizens think that they will join the super rich. Too many of us support politicians that introduce bills, policies and tax breaks that benefits mainly the 2%. Trust me, few of us will join the 2%.

The result is that far too many of us vote against our interest. That is why my initial question asked, "who/what will you support, while waiting to win the lottery." The word "lottery" could be replaced by any means of becoming wealthy. While you are building up you assets, if you support only policies that benefit the rich; you will weaken this nation.

As a thinking citizen in a participatory democracy, your duty as a good citizens should be to prevent figures as represented by the chart below from happening. An income disparity like this will lead to the USA becoming a Banana Republic. 

There should be no argument on this point in this forum. False arguments, misinterpreted statements, falsely reconstruct statements based of Rush Hatebaugh type logic will lead us to disaster...doom doom doom!!!!

There is a class warfare and we are losing!!!!


 

No, actually your here to get smacked around some more, took you 3 days to come up with a new version of SPAM, Do you have ADD OR ADHD ?, How many times did your parents have to tell you to lift the toilet seat up?

 Do you shop at walmart ? Does your computor say, Microsoft anywhere?

Do you drink coke or pepsi ? Do you buy clothes, shoes, food or gasoline ?

Do you not realize we need to keep the dollar moving in this country ?

Your a lost cause MIGHT MOUTH, IF YOU WANT PEOPLE TO VOTE FOR OBAMA, GET A BLOG, WE'LL BE HAPPY TO RESPOND.

In the mean time, get some new material, this spam is old.

Did you exchange a walk on part in the war ?

For a lead role in a cage?

 

                                            From Pink Floyd's " Wish you were here"

    sully16's avatar - sharan
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    Posted: May 13, 2012, 10:11 am - IP Logged

    It is the butcher, baker and the candlestick maker the are the backbone of America. When they have money in their pockets they support communities, large and small. The 2% are greedy in all stripes.

    YO, IDIOT, It's the big bloated government keeping small business down.

    Did you exchange a walk on part in the war ?

    For a lead role in a cage?

     

                                                From Pink Floyd's " Wish you were here"


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      Posted: May 13, 2012, 10:39 am - IP Logged

      YO, IDIOT, It's the big bloated government keeping small business down.

      Good point Sully,

      I often wonder how miserable life must be as one of the lefts USEFUL IDIOTS. http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Useful%20idiot


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        Posted: May 13, 2012, 10:50 am - IP Logged

        No, actually your here to get smacked around some more, took you 3 days to come up with a new version of SPAM, Do you have ADD OR ADHD ?, How many times did your parents have to tell you to lift the toilet seat up?

         Do you shop at walmart ? Does your computor say, Microsoft anywhere?

        Do you drink coke or pepsi ? Do you buy clothes, shoes, food or gasoline ?

        Do you not realize we need to keep the dollar moving in this country ?

        Your a lost cause MIGHT MOUTH, IF YOU WANT PEOPLE TO VOTE FOR OBAMA, GET A BLOG, WE'LL BE HAPPY TO RESPOND.

        In the mean time, get some new material, this spam is old.

        Copy and paste job for sure. What a waste of space.


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          Posted: May 13, 2012, 4:33 pm - IP Logged

          Did you miss where I agreed that spending is also a problem?  But that's just it, it's ALSO a problem.  It's not the ONLY problem.  Reducing spending alone might get us to where we need to be budget-wise (though I doubt it), but we also have this ballooning debt to tackle, not to mention the various cookie jars we've raided (*coughsocialsecuritycough*) that we really ought to refill.  Yeah, I know we're not going to eliminate it in one fell swoop, even if you went with CDanaT's ludicrous scenario of confiscating the entire net worth of the top 300 earners in the country, but at least we can get started.

          And nowhere did I mention corporate tax rates.  I realize the right wing takes corporate personhood rather literally, but I did not suggest raising taxes on businesses.

          I realize no one said this, but I never suggested raising taxes on folks like us, and I truly do not believe that you and I should have to shoulder any more of our nation's economic burdens than we already are.

                                                ............but at least we can get started

          medbrat, no matter how diplomatic you make your words SOUND what you are saying is insanely idiotic. For you to say "lets get started paying down the debt by raising taxes on the rich" is like saying:" if I get a 5 cent per hour raise I will pay off my house note off sooner"...... What nonsense! Technically your 5 cents per hour would give you an extra $2080. over 20 years (before taxes, lol) BUT GET REAL MAN.   

           ARE YOU GOING TO PAY YOUR HOUSE DOWN IN 19 YEARS 11 MONTHS INSTEAD OF 20 YEARS?

          THAT IS SOME REALLY SICK LOGIC........Puke

          WHAT YOU ARE REALLY SAYING (BY RAISING TAXES) IS THAT YOU WANT TO INCREASE SPENDING!!!!

          i HAVE A REQUEST..... BEFORE YOU SPEND MORE COULD YOU PLEASE ITEMIZE WHAT HAS ALREADY BEEN SPENT?

                                        $15,236,245,309,869.69 (D)

          HINT: http://www.usgovernmentspending.com/federal_budget

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            Posted: May 13, 2012, 6:13 pm - IP Logged

            Conservatism means that you have a keen desire to conserve the wealth of the 1%, while this country suffers. You blame those progressive liberal patriots for damaging this nation. A perfect example is the continuous drumbeat of accusing President Obama of damaging the economy. You may be brainwashed, but the thinking public have been witness to the destruction by this new form of conservatism. They say that they hate government, but while the average Joe is not looking, they suckle on the tit and belly up to the trough for as many dollars that they can get their greedy little fingers around. And you all defend them. What a SNOBBB!!!! 

            Conservatism did such a hatchet job on this economy that it may take a decade to recover. You cannot steal from the paychecks of American works and expect a vigorous recovery.

            Progressive means that they think for themselves and not the likes of Fox, BIG BUSINESS, the 1%, and Rush Hatebaugh. The longer that you wait to take control from the wealthy that have already purchased your government, courts, police, your brains and the media, the more difficult it will become to recover.  As along as you are being funneled illogical dogma that doesn't serve your interest, the nation will suffer.  Think, read and pray daily. Let us pray that real Americans will wake up. Paul Revere is riding again. Will you be a patriot or a loyalist??

            Loyal to Rush Hatebaugh as the polar caps melt. Pray brothers and sisters!!!!


            Yah!! I hit exact and any order on Pick 3 today!!!!! Thanks for the advice on pairs Sully!!Party

              rdgrnr's avatar - walt
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              Posted: May 13, 2012, 8:19 pm - IP Logged

              Conservatism means that you have a keen desire to conserve the wealth of the 1%, while this country suffers. You blame those progressive liberal patriots for damaging this nation. A perfect example is the continuous drumbeat of accusing President Obama of damaging the economy. You may be brainwashed, but the thinking public have been witness to the destruction by this new form of conservatism. They say that they hate government, but while the average Joe is not looking, they suckle on the tit and belly up to the trough for as many dollars that they can get their greedy little fingers around. And you all defend them. What a SNOBBB!!!! 

              Conservatism did such a hatchet job on this economy that it may take a decade to recover. You cannot steal from the paychecks of American works and expect a vigorous recovery.

              Progressive means that they think for themselves and not the likes of Fox, BIG BUSINESS, the 1%, and Rush Hatebaugh. The longer that you wait to take control from the wealthy that have already purchased your government, courts, police, your brains and the media, the more difficult it will become to recover.  As along as you are being funneled illogical dogma that doesn't serve your interest, the nation will suffer.  Think, read and pray daily. Let us pray that real Americans will wake up. Paul Revere is riding again. Will you be a patriot or a loyalist??

              Loyal to Rush Hatebaugh as the polar caps melt. Pray brothers and sisters!!!!


              Yah!! I hit exact and any order on Pick 3 today!!!!! Thanks for the advice on pairs Sully!!Party

              You are such a colossal phony, googly.

              And I spotted it in your very first post in this thread.

              Remember, when you were trying to act unaffiliated with either the right or the left?

              Remember?

              Here's what you said way back on page 10:

              rdgrnr, I do have a point of view and I have tried to express it without blinding folks into taking sides.

              It is our desire to solve some very apparent problems. We need to stop taking political sides, look at what has worked in the past and get to work.

              LOL, and now in your latest post you tell us how terrible Conservatives and Rush "Hatebaugh" and FOX News are and how wonderful liberals are.

              Now that you've been outed, you're admitting that you're just another lying weasel-like lib.

              Aren't you the least bit embarrassed that your phony ruse didn't work?

              Or are you just obnoxious? 


                                                           
                                   
                                                       

               

               

               

               

                                                                                                                 

              "The only thing necessary for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing"

                                                                                                          --Edmund Burke

               

               

                sully16's avatar - sharan
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                Posted: May 13, 2012, 8:31 pm - IP Logged

                Conservatism means that you have a keen desire to conserve the wealth of the 1%, while this country suffers. You blame those progressive liberal patriots for damaging this nation. A perfect example is the continuous drumbeat of accusing President Obama of damaging the economy. You may be brainwashed, but the thinking public have been witness to the destruction by this new form of conservatism. They say that they hate government, but while the average Joe is not looking, they suckle on the tit and belly up to the trough for as many dollars that they can get their greedy little fingers around. And you all defend them. What a SNOBBB!!!! 

                Conservatism did such a hatchet job on this economy that it may take a decade to recover. You cannot steal from the paychecks of American works and expect a vigorous recovery.

                Progressive means that they think for themselves and not the likes of Fox, BIG BUSINESS, the 1%, and Rush Hatebaugh. The longer that you wait to take control from the wealthy that have already purchased your government, courts, police, your brains and the media, the more difficult it will become to recover.  As along as you are being funneled illogical dogma that doesn't serve your interest, the nation will suffer.  Think, read and pray daily. Let us pray that real Americans will wake up. Paul Revere is riding again. Will you be a patriot or a loyalist??

                Loyal to Rush Hatebaugh as the polar caps melt. Pray brothers and sisters!!!!


                Yah!! I hit exact and any order on Pick 3 today!!!!! Thanks for the advice on pairs Sully!!Party

                Goog, anyone here will tell you, I don't post pairs, I play sums, so now everyone knows your a fibber.

                Did you wish your Mom a Happy Mothers Day ?, c'mon climb up from the basement and give mom some sugar, pay the rent while your at it, Oh, I forgot you want the tax payers to do that.

                Did you exchange a walk on part in the war ?

                For a lead role in a cage?

                 

                                                            From Pink Floyd's " Wish you were here"

                  rdgrnr's avatar - walt
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                  Posted: May 13, 2012, 8:39 pm - IP Logged

                  Goog, anyone here will tell you, I don't post pairs, I play sums, so now everyone knows your a fibber.

                  Did you wish your Mom a Happy Mothers Day ?, c'mon climb up from the basement and give mom some sugar, pay the rent while your at it, Oh, I forgot you want the tax payers to do that.

                  I think you called it, sully.

                  Googly desperately wants to make sure we get a nanny-state to ensure he can remain in Mommy's basement for life with his taxpayer-funded twinkies and ding-dongs.

                  Typical lazy lib.


                                                               
                                       
                                                           

                   

                   

                   

                   

                                                                                                                     

                  "The only thing necessary for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing"

                                                                                                              --Edmund Burke

                   

                   

                    rdgrnr's avatar - walt
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                    Posted: May 13, 2012, 8:45 pm - IP Logged

                    Hey Googly!

                    I'm still waiting for your answer to what percentage of their income the government should allow rich people to keep.

                    I guess you missed it the other two times I asked.

                    How about it?


                                                                 
                                         
                                                             

                     

                     

                     

                     

                                                                                                                       

                    "The only thing necessary for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing"

                                                                                                                --Edmund Burke

                     

                     

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                      Posted: May 13, 2012, 9:12 pm - IP Logged

                       Probably the one way to get those lazy asses out from the basement and get them working is to JACK UP THE MINIMUM WAGE. Everybody will want to work no matter what.

                        rdgrnr's avatar - walt
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                        Posted: May 13, 2012, 9:38 pm - IP Logged

                         Probably the one way to get those lazy asses out from the basement and get them working is to JACK UP THE MINIMUM WAGE. Everybody will want to work no matter what.

                        I don't know, gogidolim, the hard core lazy like googly are really hard to motivate.

                        And when you're 300 pounds and addicted to ho-ho's like he is, it's even harder.

                        I think he'll insist on his free stuff til we just cut it off.

                        He may not like it but we'd be doing him a favor by making him work and getting him out of that lazy lib self-loathing routine that libs go through.

                        Yeah, if we cut off his free stuff, I think he'll be fine.


                                                                     
                                             
                                                                 

                         

                         

                         

                         

                                                                                                                           

                        "The only thing necessary for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing"

                                                                                                                    --Edmund Burke

                         

                         

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                          Posted: May 13, 2012, 9:47 pm - IP Logged

                           From my life experiences people are just plain lazy or have their spirits crushed by misfortune. I've seen too many people who had decent careers and acts of God crushed their lives and spirits to go on. And...they eventually become lazy. Fortunately those born-to-be-lazy ones are real minority.

                           I've seen and observed acts of God and well, he is not a good guy. More like a mood-swinging trickster. Being the creator of the Universe doesn't make him the good guy.

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                            Posted: May 13, 2012, 10:21 pm - IP Logged

                            "HERE I AM TO SAVE THE DAY" MIGHTY GOOGLER!!!!!!! US Flag

                             

                            The national problem is our belief in the "American Dream." Too many citizens think that they will join the super rich. Too many of us support politicians that introduce bills, policies and tax breaks that benefits mainly the 2%. Trust me, few of us will join the 2%.

                            The result is that far too many of us vote against our interest. That is why my initial question asked, "who/what will you support, while waiting to win the lottery." The word "lottery" could be replaced by any means of becoming wealthy. While you are building up you assets, if you support only policies that benefit the rich; you will weaken this nation.

                            As a thinking citizen in a participatory democracy, your duty as a good citizens should be to prevent figures as represented by the chart below from happening. An income disparity like this will lead to the USA becoming a Banana Republic. 

                            There should be no argument on this point in this forum. False arguments, misinterpreted statements, falsely reconstruct statements based of Rush Hatebaugh type logic will lead us to disaster...doom doom doom!!!!

                            There is a class warfare and we are losing!!!!


                             

                            You really believe that silly little chart?

                            Then why is it the case that for the average labor-hour you can buy far more, higher quality goods than in 1980?  Almost EVERYTHING is cheaper, better or some combination of the two, and people's wages have increased, so the people have made tremendous gains in terms of how prosperous we are.

                             

                            Maybe over the past 12 years - we've recklessly DOUBLED Federal spending, and inflated the money supply so far that the middle class is starting to dissapear, but you should understand how this happens, not just blame the rich.

                             

                            Our problem is our belief in success?  That's dangerous thinking, buddy.  If you really want to group people together, the top 2% contains 1 out of 50 Americans.  I'm not willing to punish 1 out of 50 Americans for being too succesful.  That's a sickening notion.  There is no reason we can't have policies that just defend our liberty, without harming any income "class."


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                              Posted: May 13, 2012, 10:32 pm - IP Logged

                              You are such a colossal phony, googly.

                              And I spotted it in your very first post in this thread.

                              Remember, when you were trying to act unaffiliated with either the right or the left?

                              Remember?

                              Here's what you said way back on page 10:

                              rdgrnr, I do have a point of view and I have tried to express it without blinding folks into taking sides.

                              It is our desire to solve some very apparent problems. We need to stop taking political sides, look at what has worked in the past and get to work.

                              LOL, and now in your latest post you tell us how terrible Conservatives and Rush "Hatebaugh" and FOX News are and how wonderful liberals are.

                              Now that you've been outed, you're admitting that you're just another lying weasel-like lib.

                              Aren't you the least bit embarrassed that your phony ruse didn't work?

                              Or are you just obnoxious? 

                              FOX New Conservatives are wonderful liberals like Rush "Hatebaugh"

                               

                              Cmon ridge...everybody knows its Rush "Lamebaugh"!

                                 
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