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Tn
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Posted: June 1, 2014, 9:12 am - IP Logged

Hi all

It's taking a bit more time for the 3 part as I have to figure out a pen and paper method of reducing  the sets.

I have come up with a couple that are simple but ones needs to be able to make some counts that would be

very hard without software.   I will most likely have to write a tool and post it for download but that means it

will take even more time.  What I will most likely do is build a small program that will allow one to enter the

digits they want to play and the program will produce a sorted list of numbers from which the user will need

to select one or two from each line.

Here is an example for playing digits  1-2-3 + 5-7-8 for my 5-39. 

_____________________________________________________

01-02-03-11-12-13                    <- select 1 or 2 from this group

12-13-21-23-31-32                    <- select 1 or 2 from this group

05-06-08                                    <- select 0 or 1 from this group

15-16-18-25-26-28-35-36-38    <- select 2 from this group

_____________________________________________________

Each set the user builds must use all 6 digits at least once.  One can create 4 lines without using any number

more than once.  This method takes around 8 lines to cover all the numbers.  If the initial digits selected are 

correct then this will produce some nice wins.  You can build more lines which will increase the overall wins on

average but I recommend playing no more than 12 lines.   A 5 digit setup will be a bit different.  This tool will 

not require a database but the user should maintain a history of about 20 games to use in selecting the digits

they will put into play. 

 

The groups above are sorted by the number of times each number shows in the first digit run.  Below is a list

of the totals for a 6 digit run using digits 1-2-3+5-6-8.  Notice that there are 4 totals, 580, 776, 1310 and 1671.

Using the method above will format the lines in such a way that it decreases the match-0 and match-1 lines and

increases the ratio of winning tickets vs possible lines.  There are 684 possible lines that can be built using this

method from the 5421 we started with.  Keep in mind that to do well your digit selections must be very close to

those drawn.   Some might say that there is no advantage in playing digits but take a look at earlier post where

I showed the side by side analysis.  Both used 24 numbers and one could be hand picked or randomly selected 

and the other used digits to select 24 numbers to put into play.  The results as calculated assumed a 5of5 match

in the next draw.  The digit-based 24 numbers out perform a regular 24 number selection in every test I have

ever ran.   The reason for this is set formatting.   We must remember that only one line will be drawn so why work

from a list of over 42,000 lines when we can get better results from 5421 lines.  It's not that the 5 numbers drawn

are more likely to come from the 24 digit-based numbers then they are to come from the hand picked numbers as

both have the exact same chances for 5 correct numbers.   It's a matter of the overall chances for one over the other.

This is similar to wheeling numbers but IMHO produces better tickets. 

[01]= 580   
[02]= 580   
[03]= 580   
[05]=1310   
[06]=1310   
[08]=1310   
[11]= 580   
[12]= 776   
[13]= 776   
[15]=1671   
[16]=1671   
[18]=1671   
[21]= 776   
[22]= 580   
[23]= 776   
[25]=1671   
[26]=1671   
[28]=1671   
[31]= 776   
[32]= 776   
[33]= 580   
[35]=1671   
[36]=1671   
[38]=1671   

RL

SOUNDS FUN!!! Da BOOT!!!!!!!!Hyper

WHEN IT FEELS THE WHOLE WORLD SUCKS!

RELAX.........IT'S ONLY GRAVITY Big Smile

I think I can I think I can!!!!

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    Posted: June 4, 2014, 5:12 am - IP Logged

    Hi boot

    I have been running a bit behind so it may be another week before I get a chance to build the

    tool so keep checking back.  Good to hear from you, have you had any success lately, I have

    been playing a few QP's as I haven't had time to do a real setup.  I have been upgrading DM

    and just about have it ready and can't wait to get back to playing.   It's already June and I

    would say that I have not played 10 games this year. 

    RL

    Working on my Ph.D.  "University of hard Knocks"

    I will consider the opinion that my winnings are a product of chance if you are willing to consider

    they are not.  Many great discoveries come while searching for something else

    USAF https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prime_Base_Engineer_Emergency_Force

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      Posted: June 4, 2014, 5:39 am - IP Logged

      Hi boot

      I have been running a bit behind so it may be another week before I get a chance to build the

      tool so keep checking back.  Good to hear from you, have you had any success lately, I have

      been playing a few QP's as I haven't had time to do a real setup.  I have been upgrading DM

      and just about have it ready and can't wait to get back to playing.   It's already June and I

      would say that I have not played 10 games this year. 

      RL

      Bout the usual here RL a few 3 of 5's one or 2 

      4 of 5's. Still looking for that one good setup! Im starting

      To fool more with 3 and 4 picks to see what I run across but

      Look forward to anything you put out to try! So I will keep a watch

      And till then Da Boot standing by!!!!!.....

      WHEN IT FEELS THE WHOLE WORLD SUCKS!

      RELAX.........IT'S ONLY GRAVITY Big Smile

      I think I can I think I can!!!!

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        Tn
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        Posted: June 11, 2014, 8:32 am - IP Logged

        Hope all is going well RL im still hanging out looking!! Da Boot!! Lol

        WHEN IT FEELS THE WHOLE WORLD SUCKS!

        RELAX.........IT'S ONLY GRAVITY Big Smile

        I think I can I think I can!!!!


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          post  your   winning   tickets???

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            Boot

            I've Been burring the candle at both ends trying to get caught up on everything.  I got to work on the app

            a little this week but only have about 30% finished.  I hope to have time next week so keep checking back.

            RL

            Working on my Ph.D.  "University of hard Knocks"

            I will consider the opinion that my winnings are a product of chance if you are willing to consider

            they are not.  Many great discoveries come while searching for something else

            USAF https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prime_Base_Engineer_Emergency_Force

              US Flag Trump / 2016 & 2020  

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              Boot

              I've Been burring the candle at both ends trying to get caught up on everything.  I got to work on the app

              a little this week but only have about 30% finished.  I hope to have time next week so keep checking back.

              RL

              HyperBananalol

              WHEN IT FEELS THE WHOLE WORLD SUCKS!

              RELAX.........IT'S ONLY GRAVITY Big Smile

              I think I can I think I can!!!!

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                Posted: June 24, 2014, 8:55 am - IP Logged

                RL I know your are Type away!! Just want you to know Da Boot still Sulk Off  Lurking about!! lol

                 

                Thinking of...

                WHEN IT FEELS THE WHOLE WORLD SUCKS!

                RELAX.........IT'S ONLY GRAVITY Big Smile

                I think I can I think I can!!!!

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                  RL I know your are Type away!! Just want you to know Da Boot still Sulk Off  Lurking about!! lol

                   

                  Thinking of...

                  Da Boot still checking RL-RANDOMLOGIC!!!!!! lol slow down your working to hard!!

                  WHEN IT FEELS THE WHOLE WORLD SUCKS!

                  RELAX.........IT'S ONLY GRAVITY Big Smile

                  I think I can I think I can!!!!

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                    Boot

                    I've Been burring the candle at both ends trying to get caught up on everything.  I got to work on the app

                    a little this week but only have about 30% finished.  I hope to have time next week so keep checking back.

                    RL

                    ????????????????????RL????????????????????? Hows it going??? Da Boot!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!See Ya!

                    WHEN IT FEELS THE WHOLE WORLD SUCKS!

                    RELAX.........IT'S ONLY GRAVITY Big Smile

                    I think I can I think I can!!!!


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                      i  consider  my   winnings  wont  make  me   rich, as  the  old   saying  goes   ride  into  the  sunset   broke.

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                        Hi all

                        I have been having a few health issues and it may be awhile before I get around to finish the little program.

                        anyone still interested can check back from time to time as I will eventually finish and post it for download.

                        RL

                        Working on my Ph.D.  "University of hard Knocks"

                        I will consider the opinion that my winnings are a product of chance if you are willing to consider

                        they are not.  Many great discoveries come while searching for something else

                        USAF https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prime_Base_Engineer_Emergency_Force

                          US Flag Trump / 2016 & 2020  

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                          Hi all

                          I have been having a few health issues and it may be awhile before I get around to finish the little program.

                          anyone still interested can check back from time to time as I will eventually finish and post it for download.

                          RL

                          Thank you  RL hope you get well! You know the Boot always lurking around waiting to try anything you share! So please get well and we shall be here!! Waiting. ....... Da Boot!

                          WHEN IT FEELS THE WHOLE WORLD SUCKS!

                          RELAX.........IT'S ONLY GRAVITY Big Smile

                          I think I can I think I can!!!!

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                            Hi all

                            I have been having a few health issues and it may be awhile before I get around to finish the little program.

                            anyone still interested can check back from time to time as I will eventually finish and post it for download.

                            RL

                            Hope nothing serious, get well soon.

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                              Hi all

                              I have been having a few health issues and it may be awhile before I get around to finish the little program.

                              anyone still interested can check back from time to time as I will eventually finish and post it for download.

                              RL

                              Sorry to here. Hope it's not to serious. I know it takes time to get up and running again. Wish you well!

                                 
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