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RL, thanks for this new system! I have Windows 8.1 and when I extracted The D-Trap, I was able to get the digit wheel only. Both the calc and dwnsa (?) are missing. Maybe, something to do with W8?

See what carbob said a few post up ^^ run as administrator.

WHEN IT FEELS THE WHOLE WORLD SUCKS!

RELAX.........IT'S ONLY GRAVITY Big Smile

I think I can I think I can!!!!

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    See what carbob said a few post up ^^ run as administrator.

    I run it as an administrator both during the zip extracting and the D-trap. Still no dice. Only the wheel option shows up. Sent from my iPhone.

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      I am having the same problem.

       

      RL, I have windows vista, and use firefox.

       

      All I get is RL digit wheel, not the other screens.

       

      Something is wrong here RL.

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        I am having the same problem.

         

        RL, I have windows vista, and use firefox.

         

        All I get is RL digit wheel, not the other screens.

         

        Something is wrong here RL.

        I don't have a windows 8 machine to test so I can't really give much advise.  The setup will only create one

        desktop icon.  To open the others you need to go to programs menu and find the D-Trap folder which is where

        the all three shortcuts are located.   If this does not work navigate to your c:\ and then find the install folder

        and try double clicking the .EXE files.  If they still don't open then I would check to see if your firewall or anti-

        virus is somehow blocking them.  Sometimes avast will run a deep scan and the program won't be allowed to

        fully open until the scan is finished.  Once the programs have been scanned then they should be allowed to 

        run freely.  Without more information and without a windows 8 machine, that's about all I can suggest.  Maybe

        bob can give some advice what to do if these don't work as he runs windows 8.  I can run all three without any

        problems and use the exact same version as I uploaded.

        RL

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          Using Windows 7 Premium

          3 Programs

          Start > All Programs > D-TRAP Folder

          Inside the "D-TRAP" folder are the 3 programs: D-CALC, DNWSA, and D-TRAP

          When you install the exe file it will only place 1 shortcut on your Desktop called D-TRAP

          If you want D-CALC and DNWSA shorcuts also added to your Desktop you will need to go to each of the 2 programs and select Start > All Programs > D-TRAP Folder, right click D-CALC and then select Send To Desktop (Create Shortcut) then do the same for DNWSA program Start > All Programs > D-TRAP Folder, right click DNWSA and then select Send To Desktop (Create Shortcut)

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            Using Windows 7 Premium

            3 Programs

            Start > All Programs > D-TRAP Folder

            Inside the "D-TRAP" folder are the 3 programs: D-CALC, DNWSA, and D-TRAP

            When you install the exe file it will only place 1 shortcut on your Desktop called D-TRAP

            If you want D-CALC and DNWSA shorcuts also added to your Desktop you will need to go to each of the 2 programs and select Start > All Programs > D-TRAP Folder, right click D-CALC and then select Send To Desktop (Create Shortcut) then do the same for DNWSA program Start > All Programs > D-TRAP Folder, right click DNWSA and then select Send To Desktop (Create Shortcut)

            Mine works great RL! Da Boot

            WHEN IT FEELS THE WHOLE WORLD SUCKS!

            RELAX.........IT'S ONLY GRAVITY Big Smile

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              Using Windows 7 Premium

              3 Programs

              Start > All Programs > D-TRAP Folder

              Inside the "D-TRAP" folder are the 3 programs: D-CALC, DNWSA, and D-TRAP

              When you install the exe file it will only place 1 shortcut on your Desktop called D-TRAP

              If you want D-CALC and DNWSA shorcuts also added to your Desktop you will need to go to each of the 2 programs and select Start > All Programs > D-TRAP Folder, right click D-CALC and then select Send To Desktop (Create Shortcut) then do the same for DNWSA program Start > All Programs > D-TRAP Folder, right click DNWSA and then select Send To Desktop (Create Shortcut)

              Thanks Steve, I think they read over the part where I explained this.

              RL

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                RL,

                I think members who downloaded your program that they would see all 3 programs.

                DNWSA.  Not sure I remember what you originally called this program.  Digits, Numbers, Wheels, Sets, Analysis LOL

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                  I finished the analysis tool last night while watching KC sweep the series, I was hoping it would at least go

                  one more.  Anyway, below is a pic that shows what the new program does and I hope I did not give anyone

                  a false idea about what I was working on.  This new program allows the user to test the draw files for both

                  digit tools and compare them to the outputs of other programs. 

                   

                  analysis tool

                  What I have done here for an example is to set the digit wheel using 4-digits, 2 left and 2 right.  These produced 372 lines

                  and were just selected at random.  Next I opened the analysis tool and entered the numbers 11-16-23-31-33 using the number

                  keys.  These numbers fall within the sets generated by the wheel at the top.  The analysis tool has 3 drawfile options.  The

                  first, D-Trap, loads the lines generated by D-trap.  The second loads the lines generated by DNWSA and the third allows the

                  user to import lines generated by other programs.   The check boxes at the upper left indicate which option is loaded.  Once

                  the correct drawfile is loaded then I pressed the Run/Check button and it processes the lines and reports the outcome based

                  on the numbers selected.  You can see that using 4-digits in the above wheel, if correct reduces the overall odds to 1 in 1.177

                  overall for wining a prize.  The first check box to the right of the set/number display is the lpm or "Lowest Prize Match" which

                  is set to [2].  My 5-39 game pays $1.00 for a match 2of5 so 2 is the lpm.   This program should be a good test for testing the

                  effectiveness of systems based on the lines outputted.   Anyone only interested in JP level prizes will most likely not be interested

                  in these tools.   By playing around with different digit placements one can find the best type of digit setup that will offer the best

                  returns overall.  There is always the chance that you might hit the big one but this is more of a simple means of reducing the matrix

                  and trap many lower prizes.   I will as this post moves along give some examples how to pick numbers from this list to improve

                  our chances of trapping the better prizes.   If you study the output files you should be able to see the logic behind it.  Lets say

                  that we know that the largest pool of numbers in this list will have at least 2 winning numbers.  What would the result be if we

                  played several lines that had the same two numbers but the other three were all different.  It's a little harder than that but that's

                  the general idea.  When using these tools just do after the fact setups and study the results.    I still have to build the setup/install

                  program and I still want to work a little more on the types of input files the import option can handle.   Maybe some of the excel guys

                  can create some digit analysis tools with databases to help select the digits to play but the pen and paper method I talked about

                  in the video works well for me.  I have tons of tools for analysis but writing stuff out on paper seems to work best.  Anyway I should

                  have it done sometime tomorrow if nothing comes up.  I will most likely just create a updated full install instead of a patch and will

                  use the same link at the top of the topic.  I will post the date and time for each update so everyone will know if they are up to date.

                  I may also add a few more bits of information to the analysis.

                  RL

                  Working on my Ph.D.  "University of hard Knocks"

                  I will consider the opinion that my winnings are a product of chance if you are willing to consider

                  they are not.  Many great discoveries come while searching for something else

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                    Here is my current baby, 4 lexie digits will generate 100 lines total and many times produce prizes 3of5 and up.

                    This draw was a what I consider not too good, a good run has no 2of5 matches.  I have yet to find any program 

                    that will trap this many tickets with only 4 digits.  My 5-39 has 575757 total lines so the first 4 digits must fall

                    between 0000 and 5757 which is less that a daily pick-4 game.  The digits are harder to hit but I am working them

                    out little by little.   Anyway, just thought I would show where most of my free time goes.  I would be interested if

                    anyone has a method that will perform better using only 4 digits, no other filters.

                     RL

                    lex

                    Working on my Ph.D.  "University of hard Knocks"

                    I will consider the opinion that my winnings are a product of chance if you are willing to consider

                    they are not.  Many great discoveries come while searching for something else

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                      Here is my current baby, 4 lexie digits will generate 100 lines total and many times produce prizes 3of5 and up.

                      This draw was a what I consider not too good, a good run has no 2of5 matches.  I have yet to find any program 

                      that will trap this many tickets with only 4 digits.  My 5-39 has 575757 total lines so the first 4 digits must fall

                      between 0000 and 5757 which is less that a daily pick-4 game.  The digits are harder to hit but I am working them

                      out little by little.   Anyway, just thought I would show where most of my free time goes.  I would be interested if

                      anyone has a method that will perform better using only 4 digits, no other filters.

                       RL

                      lex

                      RL,

                      That is the souped-up version.

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                        Bob

                        This was the tool I was working on for the lottery pool but never really got it to the point where

                        I thought we could predict the digits.  I figured that each member could work one digit and we

                        could play one line per draw if we wanted.  The nich thing about the lexie is that you can miss

                        every digit and still hit a 4of5.   It's harder than it sounds but it's possible.  Below is a list that

                        shows every possible 4of5 for my 5-39 last night.  The number on the far right is the number of

                        draws between the 4of5 hits, knod of interesting.  The first set of digits is the lexie value and

                        next the set that goes with it.  The winning numbers were lexie 068570, set  01-19-25-30-39

                        RL

                         

                        006530  01 02 19 25 30       9
                        006539  01 02 19 25 39      55
                        006594  01 02 19 30 39     776
                        007370  01 02 25 30 39    6300
                        013670  01 03 19 25 30       9
                        013679  01 03 19 25 39      55
                        013734  01 03 19 30 39     776
                        014510  01 03 25 30 39    5705
                        020215  01 04 19 25 30       9
                        020224  01 04 19 25 39      55
                        020279  01 04 19 30 39     776
                        021055  01 04 25 30 39    5144
                        026199  01 05 19 25 30       9
                        026208  01 05 19 25 39      55
                        026263  01 05 19 30 39     776
                        027039  01 05 25 30 39    4616
                        031655  01 06 19 25 30       9
                        031664  01 06 19 25 39      55
                        031719  01 06 19 30 39     776
                        032495  01 06 25 30 39    4120
                        036615  01 07 19 25 30       9
                        036624  01 07 19 25 39      55
                        036679  01 07 19 30 39     776
                        037455  01 07 25 30 39    3655
                        041110  01 08 19 25 30       9
                        041119  01 08 19 25 39      55
                        041174  01 08 19 30 39     776
                        041950  01 08 25 30 39    3220
                        045170  01 09 19 25 30       9
                        045179  01 09 19 25 39      55
                        045234  01 09 19 30 39     776
                        046010  01 09 25 30 39    2814
                        048824  01 10 19 25 30       9
                        048833  01 10 19 25 39      55
                        048888  01 10 19 30 39     776
                        049664  01 10 25 30 39    2436
                        052100  01 11 19 25 30       9
                        052109  01 11 19 25 39      55
                        052164  01 11 19 30 39     776
                        052940  01 11 25 30 39    2085
                        055025  01 12 19 25 30       9
                        055034  01 12 19 25 39      55
                        055089  01 12 19 30 39     776
                        055865  01 12 25 30 39    1760
                        057625  01 13 19 25 30       9
                        057634  01 13 19 25 39      55
                        057689  01 13 19 30 39     776
                        058465  01 13 25 30 39    1460
                        059925  01 14 19 25 30       9
                        059934  01 14 19 25 39      55
                        059989  01 14 19 30 39     776
                        060765  01 14 25 30 39    1184
                        061949  01 15 19 25 30       9
                        061958  01 15 19 25 39      55
                        062013  01 15 19 30 39     776
                        062789  01 15 25 30 39     931
                        063720  01 16 19 25 30       9
                        063729  01 16 19 25 39      55
                        063784  01 16 19 30 39     776
                        064560  01 16 25 30 39     700
                        065260  01 17 19 25 30       9
                        065269  01 17 19 25 39      55
                        065324  01 17 19 30 39     776
                        066100  01 17 25 30 39     490
                        066590  01 18 19 25 30       9
                        066599  01 18 19 25 39      55
                        066654  01 18 19 30 39     776
                        067430  01 18 25 30 39     471
                        067901  01 19 20 25 30       9
                        067910  01 19 20 25 39      55
                        067965  01 19 20 30 39      89
                        068054  01 19 21 25 30       9
                        068063  01 19 21 25 39      55
                        068118  01 19 21 30 39      72
                        068190  01 19 22 25 30       9
                        068199  01 19 22 25 39      55
                        068254  01 19 22 30 39      56
                        068310  01 19 23 25 30       9
                        068319  01 19 23 25 39      55
                        068374  01 19 23 30 39      41
                        068415  01 19 24 25 30       9
                        068424  01 19 24 25 39      55
                        068479  01 19 24 30 39      40
                        068519  01 19 25 26 30       9
                        068528  01 19 25 26 39       3
                        068531  01 19 25 27 30       9
                        068540  01 19 25 27 39       2
                        068542  01 19 25 28 30       9
                        068551  01 19 25 28 39       1
                        068552  01 19 25 29 30       9
                        068561  01 19 25 29 39       1
                        068562  01 19 25 30 31       1
                        068563  01 19 25 30 32       1
                        068564  01 19 25 30 33       1
                        068565  01 19 25 30 34       1
                        068566  01 19 25 30 35       1
                        068567  01 19 25 30 36       1
                        068568  01 19 25 30 37      10
                        068578  01 19 25 31 39       7
                        068585  01 19 25 32 39       6
                        068591  01 19 25 33 39       5
                        068596  01 19 25 34 39       4
                        068600  01 19 25 35 39       3
                        068603  01 19 25 36 39       3
                        068606  01 19 25 37 39       0
                        068606  01 19 25 38 39      42
                        068648  01 19 26 30 39      66
                        068714  01 19 27 30 39      55
                        068769  01 19 28 30 39      45
                        068814  01 19 29 30 39      44
                        068858  01 19 30 31 39       7
                        068865  01 19 30 32 39       6
                        068871  01 19 30 33 39       5
                        068876  01 19 30 34 39       4
                        068880  01 19 30 35 39       3
                        068883  01 19 30 36 39       3
                        068886  01 19 30 37 39       0
                        068886  01 19 30 38 39     653
                        069539  01 20 25 30 39     816
                        070355  01 21 25 30 39     680
                        071035  01 22 25 30 39     560
                        071595  01 23 25 30 39     455
                        072050  01 24 25 30 39     442
                        072492  01 25 26 30 39      66
                        072558  01 25 27 30 39      55
                        072613  01 25 28 30 39      45
                        072658  01 25 29 30 39      44
                        072702  01 25 30 31 39       7
                        072709  01 25 30 32 39       6
                        072715  01 25 30 33 39       5
                        072720  01 25 30 34 39       4
                        072724  01 25 30 35 39       3
                        072727  01 25 30 36 39       3
                        072730  01 25 30 37 39       0
                        072730  01 25 30 38 39   61885
                        134615  02 19 25 30 39   58905
                        193520  03 19 25 30 39   52360
                        245880  04 19 25 30 39   46376
                        292256  05 19 25 30 39   40920
                        333176  06 19 25 30 39   35960
                        369136  07 19 25 30 39   31465
                        400601  08 19 25 30 39   27405
                        428006  09 19 25 30 39   23751
                        451757  10 19 25 30 39   20475
                        472232  11 19 25 30 39   17550
                        489782  12 19 25 30 39   14950
                        504732  13 19 25 30 39   12650
                        517382  14 19 25 30 39   10626
                        528008  15 19 25 30 39    8855
                        536863  16 19 25 30 39    7315
                        544178  17 19 25 30 39    5985
                        550163  18 19 25 30 39    5814
                        555977  19 20 25 30 39     816
                        556793  19 21 25 30 39     680
                        557473  19 22 25 30 39     560
                        558033  19 23 25 30 39     455
                        558488  19 24 25 30 39     442
                        558930  19 25 26 30 39      66
                        558996  19 25 27 30 39      55
                        559051  19 25 28 30 39      45
                        559096  19 25 29 30 39      44
                        559140  19 25 30 31 39       7
                        559147  19 25 30 32 39       6
                        559153  19 25 30 33 39       5
                        559158  19 25 30 34 39       4
                        559162  19 25 30 35 39       3
                        559165  19 25 30 36 39       3
                        559168  19 25 30 37 39       0

                        Working on my Ph.D.  "University of hard Knocks"

                        I will consider the opinion that my winnings are a product of chance if you are willing to consider

                        they are not.  Many great discoveries come while searching for something else

                        USAF https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prime_Base_Engineer_Emergency_Force

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                          It looks like a vertical sound wave pattern to,  My MO 6-44 predictor post uses the information to the right

                          to make it's predictions.  I think there is something there but just have not worked it out yet.

                          RL

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                          I will consider the opinion that my winnings are a product of chance if you are willing to consider

                          they are not.  Many great discoveries come while searching for something else

                          USAF https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prime_Base_Engineer_Emergency_Force

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                            I don't have a windows 8 machine to test so I can't really give much advise.  The setup will only create one

                            desktop icon.  To open the others you need to go to programs menu and find the D-Trap folder which is where

                            the all three shortcuts are located.   If this does not work navigate to your c:\ and then find the install folder

                            and try double clicking the .EXE files.  If they still don't open then I would check to see if your firewall or anti-

                            virus is somehow blocking them.  Sometimes avast will run a deep scan and the program won't be allowed to

                            fully open until the scan is finished.  Once the programs have been scanned then they should be allowed to 

                            run freely.  Without more information and without a windows 8 machine, that's about all I can suggest.  Maybe

                            bob can give some advice what to do if these don't work as he runs windows 8.  I can run all three without any

                            problems and use the exact same version as I uploaded.

                            RL

                            Thanks RL,

                             

                            I followed your instructions, and got all 3 screens.

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                              Here is my current baby, 4 lexie digits will generate 100 lines total and many times produce prizes 3of5 and up.

                              This draw was a what I consider not too good, a good run has no 2of5 matches.  I have yet to find any program 

                              that will trap this many tickets with only 4 digits.  My 5-39 has 575757 total lines so the first 4 digits must fall

                              between 0000 and 5757 which is less that a daily pick-4 game.  The digits are harder to hit but I am working them

                              out little by little.   Anyway, just thought I would show where most of my free time goes.  I would be interested if

                              anyone has a method that will perform better using only 4 digits, no other filters.

                               RL

                              lex

                              My Dear RL,

                               

                              When are you going to release your baby to us?

                                 
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