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Do Lottery Software program help YOU WIN lottery?

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I like the pool play idea, but this requires administration and time, as people get or are annoying to sabotaging. I forget about the pool idea.

Again, if there was a miracle-program, the payouts would suck even more.

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    The main point with software like Analysis Lotto and Lotwin is they lift the burden of number selection / prediction off the user and replace it with delta or filter selection. 

    Now if someone could create working delta or filter AI prediction software maybe we could move this mule a little further down the road.

    It would be nice to have the jackpot winning combination in 5,000 to 10,000 combinations every x number of draws.  Would certainly be of interest to pools, provided the system doesn't go cold for long periods of time.   The other would concern Pick-5 versus Pick-6, prize amounts and their division among winners outside the pool using the system system.   Just thinking out loud, don't mind me, please continue . . .

    BobP

    "It would be nice to have the jackpot winning combination in 5,000 to 10,000 combinations every x number of draws."

    No one is really trying to do that even the ones claiming to have developed programs that pick winners using filters.  The fact is if their programs don't pick a winner and don't reject or filter out a winner then there was never a winner on their lists to be picked.

    Maybe lottoarchitect ECD programs does as he claims but you would never know it unless all 5,000-10,000 combinations considered were written to a file so they could be checked afterward if the combinations picked didn't have the winner.  Such a simple solution to prove what he claimed was true and yet never offered which is why I don't believe his claims.

     * you don't need to buy more tickets, just buy a winning ticket * 
       
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      Looks like we both have assisted the same amount of players.

      A simple question: how on earth can you even compare how you have assisted users based on what you offer to them (practically nothing I can say?), to my offering of a free program that does everything all other traditional commercial programs do (statistics, printing, filtering, wheeling etc). To its simplest form, this means I can and have saved a lot of money to everyone interested in these features simply by using my program FOR FREE instead of buying other programs to do the same. Do I have to even explain this more??? This regardless if the users have won something or not using Lotto Architect.

      You continue to present atrocious comments simply based on no replies here? You wish this to be the case, unfortunately for you, it is not. If you want to find about users who I have assisted, take the time to read what they say at my forums. You'll find several happy customers who win. Please save your sub par comments. This becomes pathetic.

      Did somebody say free?

      Does your software do pick 4?

      Does it have comparable charts to Advantage plus?

      Does it have a abbreviate skip chart?  Those are becoming my favorite.

      I dont care much for wheels. 

      I have pondered the lotwins program suggested by Bobp, just to give it a whirl and check it out, but no movement yet in that direction.

      Which then gives me the question for bobp

      @bobp, does the lotwin program have an abbreviated skip chart?

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        "It would be nice to have the jackpot winning combination in 5,000 to 10,000 combinations every x number of draws."

        No one is really trying to do that even the ones claiming to have developed programs that pick winners using filters.  The fact is if their programs don't pick a winner and don't reject or filter out a winner then there was never a winner on their lists to be picked.

        Maybe lottoarchitect ECD programs does as he claims but you would never know it unless all 5,000-10,000 combinations considered were written to a file so they could be checked afterward if the combinations picked didn't have the winner.  Such a simple solution to prove what he claimed was true and yet never offered which is why I don't believe his claims.

        Lotwin begins with a full wheel of all possible combinations in the game.  All the winning combinations for every prize tier including the jackpot (for standard Pick-5-6-7 no powerball style games only their Pick-5 portion is worked with) are in there when you begin.  Among methods of removing combinations can be the decision to play a reduced field, but it is never necessary.  The program is perfectly capable of filtering down to a budget size number of lines without removing any numbers per se, though some do get scrapped off along the way as there is no requirement all numbers will be in play at the finish.  How could they if the filters can take it down to fewer lines then there are numbers to be among them.

        In short, you start with the jackpot in there.  Your filter choices determine whether you win or lose.

        BobP




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          Did somebody say free?

          Does your software do pick 4?

          Does it have comparable charts to Advantage plus?

          Does it have a abbreviate skip chart?  Those are becoming my favorite.

          I dont care much for wheels. 

          I have pondered the lotwins program suggested by Bobp, just to give it a whirl and check it out, but no movement yet in that direction.

          Which then gives me the question for bobp

          @bobp, does the lotwin program have an abbreviated skip chart?

          Sorry to say, Lotwin like Gh does not support the Pick-3/4 game nor does it do Pick-4 with Megaball.

          Lotwin will give number and filter intervals like this

                     Times      Draw Intervals
           Number    Drawn        all draws
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            4           87      1    3    1    9   18
           35           82     20    1    6    4    1
           39           81      1    6   12    3   11
           37           81      4    3    4    5   11
           23           78      1    1    4    3    5
           24           77      2   10    1    5   10
           25           77      8    7   10    5   11
           38           76      6   13    2    2    1
           17           76     20    3    1   10    3
           10           74      1   12    3    9   25


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            Sorry to say, Lotwin like Gh does not support the Pick-3/4 game nor does it do Pick-4 with Megaball.

            Lotwin will give number and filter intervals like this

                       Times      Draw Intervals
             Number    Drawn        all draws
            __________________________

              4           87      1    3    1    9   18
             35           82     20    1    6    4    1
             39           81      1    6   12    3   11
             37           81      4    3    4    5   11
             23           78      1    1    4    3    5
             24           77      2   10    1    5   10
             25           77      8    7   10    5   11
             38           76      6   13    2    2    1
             17           76     20    3    1   10    3
             10           74      1   12    3    9   25


            BobP

            I thank you kindly BobP for this illustration.

            Would it be too much to ask if you could make this illustration, with the NY Pick 5 game and post it tonite?  ( Preferably b4 the cutoff)

            In this scenario, it appears interval means skip.

            Which means I might have to change my Lotto Matrix Walk chart, from the drawing since hit chart into the drawing since interval chart.Blue Thinking

            Is the times drawn shown with CF?

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              Anyone using Lottery Software expecting it to be a magic genie in granting them the winning numbers are going to be in for HUGE disappointment! I have Lotto Pro 2013 long with Advantage + And Wheel Gold 5. I use Lotto Pro mostly for the pick 4 games. I only use it for statistics tracking, ratio trends, skips patterns and pairs. I never use the software's quick picks. I use the software along with 4 other excel spreadsheets I use. I find the software to be great as a tool to my overall methodology of picking numbers.

              Following the trends and patterns means following the money!Banana

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                Lotwin begins with a full wheel of all possible combinations in the game.  All the winning combinations for every prize tier including the jackpot (for standard Pick-5-6-7 no powerball style games only their Pick-5 portion is worked with) are in there when you begin.  Among methods of removing combinations can be the decision to play a reduced field, but it is never necessary.  The program is perfectly capable of filtering down to a budget size number of lines without removing any numbers per se, though some do get scrapped off along the way as there is no requirement all numbers will be in play at the finish.  How could they if the filters can take it down to fewer lines then there are numbers to be among them.

                In short, you start with the jackpot in there.  Your filter choices determine whether you win or lose.

                BobP




                If it starts with a full wheel then the winning combination is always there but you're starting out with millions of combinations with no more of an edge than anyone else trying to pick the winner from millions of possibilities. 

                I was thinking more along the line of picking 5,000 -10,000 combinations with unique parameters that the next winning combination most likely would have.  For example if in past drawings 50% of the time all the numbers in the winning combination had hit in the previous seven drawings or numbers that normally followed the last numbers in certain positions 80% of the time or some other unique qualities that had been discovered.

                 * you don't need to buy more tickets, just buy a winning ticket * 
                   
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                  Did somebody say free?

                  Does your software do pick 4?

                  Does it have comparable charts to Advantage plus?

                  Does it have a abbreviate skip chart?  Those are becoming my favorite.

                  I dont care much for wheels. 

                  I have pondered the lotwins program suggested by Bobp, just to give it a whirl and check it out, but no movement yet in that direction.

                  Which then gives me the question for bobp

                  @bobp, does the lotwin program have an abbreviated skip chart?

                  Sounds like stuff you've read about in GH books and software.  Why would anyone claim they have something better and duplicate what someone else has already done?

                   * you don't need to buy more tickets, just buy a winning ticket * 
                     
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                    Lotwin begins with a full wheel of all possible combinations in the game.  All the winning combinations for every prize tier including the jackpot (for standard Pick-5-6-7 no powerball style games only their Pick-5 portion is worked with) are in there when you begin.  Among methods of removing combinations can be the decision to play a reduced field, but it is never necessary.  The program is perfectly capable of filtering down to a budget size number of lines without removing any numbers per se, though some do get scrapped off along the way as there is no requirement all numbers will be in play at the finish.  How could they if the filters can take it down to fewer lines then there are numbers to be among them.

                    In short, you start with the jackpot in there.  Your filter choices determine whether you win or lose.

                    BobP





                    In short, you start with the jackpot in there.  Your filter choices determine whether you win or lose. 

                    This same concept is suppose to apply to Pick3/4 games, but most players do it the other way around. They start with way too few numbers while trying to ensure that the winner is in there...and it's a very, very long shot. Just as there is such a thing as too many numbers, there's such a thing as excessive filtering. I believe this game requires a careful balance of both numbers and cost (one compliments the other) in order to be successful and win with reasonable expectations. Good post BobP

                     

                    L.L.

                    Small games, frequent wins, and regular payouts 'cause.....

                    There are seven days in the week...'Someday' isn't one of them.

                    #lotto-4-a-living

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                      Beware D Many>>>software programs out DARE>>>>>>>>>>>>>>!!!!!!!!!!!

                                                           Dupe Alert BUT  Dupe Alert

                      (A) All software programs R not D same!

                      (B) Most R space junk and waste of UR time R money!

                      (C) U can name D best wons on UR right hand! (that's right, only 5 EXIST)

                                                            DanceBUT Dance and there is always a BUT out DARE somewhere

                             Name UR bestos software EVER

                      Any system can work at one point, but you want a system that is consistent. The worst thing people do is choose numbers out of their heads. some of those software work better in some states, choose the method that best works for you, keep in mind there will come a time when it will not work for a long time. what you want is a system that give you a few numbers to play. some won millions by programing numbers to his computer. good luck

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                        In short, you start with the jackpot in there.  Your filter choices determine whether you win or lose. 

                        This same concept is suppose to apply to Pick3/4 games, but most players do it the other way around. They start with way too few numbers while trying to ensure that the winner is in there...and it's a very, very long shot. Just as there is such a thing as too many numbers, there's such a thing as excessive filtering. I believe this game requires a careful balance of both numbers and cost (one compliments the other) in order to be successful and win with reasonable expectations. Good post BobP

                         

                        L.L.

                        In short, you start with the jackpot in there.  Your filter choices determine whether you win or lose. 

                        "This same concept is suppose to apply to Pick3/4 games, but most players do it the other way around."

                        When you start out with all 1000 possible combinations with Pick3 and all 10,000 possible combinations with Pick4 you're in hole if you play those combinations twice what you can win.  You have to reduce the number of combination by a half just to have a chance to break even and win nothing and even more to have a chance at making a profit.

                         * you don't need to buy more tickets, just buy a winning ticket * 
                           
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                          Did somebody say free?

                          Does your software do pick 4?

                          Does it have comparable charts to Advantage plus?

                          Does it have a abbreviate skip chart?  Those are becoming my favorite.

                          I dont care much for wheels. 

                          I have pondered the lotwins program suggested by Bobp, just to give it a whirl and check it out, but no movement yet in that direction.

                          Which then gives me the question for bobp

                          @bobp, does the lotwin program have an abbreviated skip chart?

                          Did somebody say free?

                          Yes

                          Does your software do pick 4?

                          Yes

                          Does it have comparable charts to Advantage plus?

                          Lotto Architect does not offer graphs yet. It does show data analysis in tabular form however, if this is what you mean by charts. Graphical representation of any analysis is an important aspect missing and will be added at the next version. I don't know what charts this program you mention display but I believe most of the required analysis features all already in there. After all, I don't copy other programs or try to make mine look like others; I design stuff based on what my analysis suggests is worthwhile to have in a program. The result of this analysis is the unique design at the proposed work flow of Lotto Architect.

                          Does it have a abbreviate skip chart?  Those are becoming my favorite.

                          If this "abbreviate skip" is the delay of numbers, it does have it but not in the form of a graph. If it is something else, I don't know what this refers to so please elaborate.

                          I dont care much for wheels.

                          If everybody cared for the same things, there wouldn't be programs to support other options. Many users want to wheel their numbers and for good reason however, thus a program that claims to be a complete lottery suite, must also support wheeling.

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                            I thank you kindly BobP for this illustration.

                            Would it be too much to ask if you could make this illustration, with the NY Pick 5 game and post it tonite?  ( Preferably b4 the cutoff)

                            In this scenario, it appears interval means skip.

                            Which means I might have to change my Lotto Matrix Walk chart, from the drawing since hit chart into the drawing since interval chart.Blue Thinking

                            Is the times drawn shown with CF?

                            Why are you not looking at this chart on the free demo? 

                            http://www.lotwin.com/users/registration.aspx

                            Because I have a subscription I can't fire up the demo to see what it will show you.

                            BobP

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                              If it starts with a full wheel then the winning combination is always there but you're starting out with millions of combinations with no more of an edge than anyone else trying to pick the winner from millions of possibilities. 

                              I was thinking more along the line of picking 5,000 -10,000 combinations with unique parameters that the next winning combination most likely would have.  For example if in past drawings 50% of the time all the numbers in the winning combination had hit in the previous seven drawings or numbers that normally followed the last numbers in certain positions 80% of the time or some other unique qualities that had been discovered.

                              Not exactly.  They're trying to pick the winner.  With Lotwin you're trying to eliminate what kind of combinations will or won't win.  These are simple choices often with quasi valid reasons for selection versus numbers with no reason to select one over the other.  I don't doubt a broad path down the filter mid points could take you down to 5000 - 10000 combinations with a jackpot 50% of the time, if that would be of any value to you.

                              The program provides a very long list of reduced field number sets of all sizes and prizes whose numbers have had 3 to 6 winning numbers among them, along with the set's most recent hits, like 1-2-1-1-4-1.  I have not found this information useful whether I'm looking at hits 1-1-1-1-1-1-1-1 or 1-2-1-2-1-2-1-2 the moment I play it diverts. 

                              BobP

                                 
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