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Do Lottery Software program help YOU WIN lottery?

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Do YOU have GOOD Software program???

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Just looking at the prediction statistics of predictors who post thousands of combinations every day tells me that just simply playing lots of combinations will not come close to covering your cost of playing if you don't win a jackpot once in a while.  I'm surprised to see some predictors winning over 40% of what it would cost if they actually played those combinations.

When I was wheeling 14 to 18 numbers, there were only 2 lotto drawings a week and some of our members have over 12,000 predictions every day. You might be the only member predicting the OCL and your lifetime profit ratio is 124,15% without ever matching 6 numbers. You made 4684 predictions which are only 0.33% so you're not expected to have matched all 6 numbers. You'll need 100 times that many predictions just to give yourself a 34% chance.

The prediction board has a 50 line limit and with only two drawings a week, that only 100 chances per player predicting PB and MM. Just to show you the odds, if 100,000 LP members made 100 PB predictions a week, there is only a 5.7% chance of one jackpot winning ticket.

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    Yes. as long as the software is run by human software with average or better then average inteligence that is at ease handling large amounts of data . WHY ? A-human brain is capable of 20 million calculations per second or more if you are SergeM Crazy  i believe ... 

    A PROGRAM DONE BY A  WORLD RENOWED PROGRAMMER STILL FALLS SHORT BECOUSE THAT SOFTWARE IS LIMITED BY THE COMPUTER PROCESSING POWER /SPEED = The average computer/tablet/smartphone CAN NOT RUN xxxMILLION CALCULATIONS/SECOND like an advanced homo sapiens... Some labs do have extremely powerfull computers ,but try running  lotto software on those if you can Wink .

    http://www.extremetech.com/extreme/163051-simulating-1-second-of-human-brain-activity-takes-82944-processors


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      I don't recall asking how many drawings for all 1000, but did ask how many of the 1000 combos should we expect in the next 1000 drawings and I believe your guess was 632. If you can do that math, it should be obvious why your $5 a draw QP playing simulation was useless. After 200 drawings, many of the players will be out $1000 and you're trying to con real pick-3 players into believing they would not only continue betting $5 a drawing, but would make bets that couldn't help them break even just like your unrealistic imaginary players.

      The point you keep missing is about 368 combos won't be drawn in the next 1000 drawings, but many of your unrealistic imaginary players will get 1 to 5 of those numbers on QPs.


      Stack47

      You driveled, "I don't recall asking how many drawings for all 1000, but did ask how many of the 1000 combos should we expect in the next 1000 drawings and I believe your guess was 632."

      You don't recall because you didn't ask me - I ASKED YOU!

      Rather than continue making a fool of yourself,
      click here, and then admit you don't know the answer to the question.

      You either think you're so clever that no one notices your feeble attempts at "sleight of hand," or you think those reading this thread are stupid.  Which is it?

      --Jimmy4164

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        When I was wheeling 14 to 18 numbers, there were only 2 lotto drawings a week and some of our members have over 12,000 predictions every day. You might be the only member predicting the OCL and your lifetime profit ratio is 124,15% without ever matching 6 numbers. You made 4684 predictions which are only 0.33% so you're not expected to have matched all 6 numbers. You'll need 100 times that many predictions just to give yourself a 34% chance.

        The prediction board has a 50 line limit and with only two drawings a week, that only 100 chances per player predicting PB and MM. Just to show you the odds, if 100,000 LP members made 100 PB predictions a week, there is only a 5.7% chance of one jackpot winning ticket.

        I only post predictions when I play but there are some members who post OCL predictions every drawing but they probably post a lot of other states also.

         * you don't need to buy more tickets, just buy a winning ticket * 
           
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          Posted: July 10, 2014, 12:57 pm - IP Logged

          Maybe the key to anonymity is winning a jackpot using one of those software programs.

          I knew the odds when I first started using wheels so my plan was to get small wins to cover the cost of play. Instead of playing the 42 line 4 if 6 of 18 numbers, I played a 3 if 3 for $6 more. Matching just 3 numbers didn't cover the cost of play, but matching all six numbers almost guaranteed a four number match. The difference between then and now is the number of high jackpot games so it made sense then to wager more on the one game and hopefully cash enough to cover the cost of play or at least lower it considerably.

          Maybe the key to anonymity is winning a jackpot using one of those software programs.

          I noticed both MM and PB websites has a list of winners going back to the beginning of 2010 which may be the reason these lottery software websites only mention winners that won using their software from the nineties.

           * you don't need to buy more tickets, just buy a winning ticket * 
             
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            Stack47

            You driveled, "I don't recall asking how many drawings for all 1000, but did ask how many of the 1000 combos should we expect in the next 1000 drawings and I believe your guess was 632."

            You don't recall because you didn't ask me - I ASKED YOU!

            Rather than continue making a fool of yourself,
            click here, and then admit you don't know the answer to the question.

            You either think you're so clever that no one notices your feeble attempts at "sleight of hand," or you think those reading this thread are stupid.  Which is it?

            --Jimmy4164

            "You either think you're so clever that no one notices your feeble attempts at "sleight of hand," or you think those reading this thread are stupid.  Which is it? "

            A few years ago we had a discussion about the Ohio pick-3 combo 023 because it wasn't drawn in over 11,000 drawings. There was a 3 digit combo in Wisconsin that was only a couple hundred drawings behind, but I don't know the exact number of drawings either went and/or if any other 3 digit combo exceed the 12,000 drawings mark. The consensus then was 023 had about a 70% chance of being drawn in the next 1000 drawings starting with that day, the next day, next week, next month, or the next year.

            That being said to benefit anyone reading this thread that didn't know it's impossible to accurately measure something that is subject to change and to answer Jimmy's third grade math question, it's somewhere between 1000 and infinity.

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              Maybe the key to anonymity is winning a jackpot using one of those software programs.

              I noticed both MM and PB websites has a list of winners going back to the beginning of 2010 which may be the reason these lottery software websites only mention winners that won using their software from the nineties.

              The member who predicted 5 out 12 plus 1 out 3 in the PB Challenge said they used a system, but didn't say if it was a software program. And matching 5 out of 28 plus the bonus number wasn't done by a lottery program either. The large number of Gail Howard software jackpot winners could be attributed to the players choosing the correct order (consciously or accidentally) when their wheel matched all 5 or all 6 numbers. They might have just entered the numbers by random order and got lucky.


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                "You either think you're so clever that no one notices your feeble attempts at "sleight of hand," or you think those reading this thread are stupid.  Which is it? "

                A few years ago we had a discussion about the Ohio pick-3 combo 023 because it wasn't drawn in over 11,000 drawings. There was a 3 digit combo in Wisconsin that was only a couple hundred drawings behind, but I don't know the exact number of drawings either went and/or if any other 3 digit combo exceed the 12,000 drawings mark. The consensus then was 023 had about a 70% chance of being drawn in the next 1000 drawings starting with that day, the next day, next week, next month, or the next year.

                That being said to benefit anyone reading this thread that didn't know it's impossible to accurately measure something that is subject to change and to answer Jimmy's third grade math question, it's somewhere between 1000 and infinity.


                Stack47,
                After wasting an entire paragraph discussing draw observations, you are finally forced to admit it could require an infinite wait.  A much more interesting answer would require a statistical approach revealing a distribution with confidence levels and intervals, but statistics are not your bag, so you're off the hook.

                And after years of trying to convince people the lottery requires complex mathematics to "solve" it, you now imply it can be done with "Third Grade Math!"

                You are a joke.
                --Jimmy4164

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                  The member who predicted 5 out 12 plus 1 out 3 in the PB Challenge said they used a system, but didn't say if it was a software program. And matching 5 out of 28 plus the bonus number wasn't done by a lottery program either. The large number of Gail Howard software jackpot winners could be attributed to the players choosing the correct order (consciously or accidentally) when their wheel matched all 5 or all 6 numbers. They might have just entered the numbers by random order and got lucky.

                  Although that was quite an accomplishment I think it was more due to luck than a system because I doubt it will be repeated again soon by any of the participants in those challenges.

                   * you don't need to buy more tickets, just buy a winning ticket * 
                     
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                    I have had and used LottoPro long time ago but it's not working really! 

                    There are so many statistics tools or programs which are

                    largely identical but with minor differences  in the market!!!

                    But Saying a Lotto System Works means that we can win constantly (not each draw)  

                    and  economically (get a real profit) by using the System.

                    The most important function as a good program just is can help us for selecting #s correctly!!!

                    I like lotto007. It has good filters to use. It for example by using full wheel and selecting all the numbers from hot lotto (1-47) can create all the possible combinations that could come out which is 1,533,939 tickets. Therefore you can use your filters through common sense and sometimes a guessing game, to lower this number of 1533939  and obtain a much smaller list of tickets. You could also create a much smaller list by repeating the process but excluding particular numbers. Example: On 7-2-14 & 7-5-14, both 23 & 35 had repeated each.  There are some numbers which were drawn 3 times as 41  did on 5-31-14, 6-4-14 & 6-7-14, but this is very rare. On a side note remember GAIL HOWARD'S quote...."That which is MOST POSSIBLE happens MOST OFTEN, That which is LEAST POSSIBLE happens LEAST OFTEN". Example, don't expect 1,2,3,4 5 to come out too soon on any lottery. For 23 & 35 to come out a third time was possible, but it was very unlikely. So it was safe to assume that they wouldn't. So for the list you could go to click tickets,click full wheel,click select, selecting all numbers 1-47, excluding the number 23 & the number 35 and after you click BUILD you get 1,221,759 tickets then save this list of tickets to what ever name you want like HotLottoFWExclude23&35 for example. You load it up in filters, and apply filters to it which reduce this number even more. When I first started doing this on 6-21 and used all the filters I possible could from the data, I didn't win but when I seen what the winning numbers were I did a test. I had used a range for low number and a range for high number. If I had guessed and picked both of those numbers exactly, the 6 & the 47 and ran the filters It generated a total sum of 3 tickets where one of them was all 5 matching numbers exactly due to not just hitting 2 numbers on the money but with help from the other filters I had applied. My lotto Pro therefore had guessed using the #4 as the bonus ball because it was hot. Just image if I had guessed 6 & 47 using what I had put in the filters and then used the hot ball 4 which lotto pro said to use. Played 3 dollars on 3 tickets and came out 8 million dollars richer.  I know that predicting the 6 & 47 were a long shot i'm just using it as an example of how narrowed down the ticket count came down to which were 3 tickets buy doing so. Programs that have filters are very helpful. The more filters the better. Only thing about lotto007 is max wheel number is 60, I'd like it if it went to 75 or above.

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                      Stack47,
                      After wasting an entire paragraph discussing draw observations, you are finally forced to admit it could require an infinite wait.  A much more interesting answer would require a statistical approach revealing a distribution with confidence levels and intervals, but statistics are not your bag, so you're off the hook.

                      And after years of trying to convince people the lottery requires complex mathematics to "solve" it, you now imply it can be done with "Third Grade Math!"

                      You are a joke.
                      --Jimmy4164

                      Don't blame me, I'm just the messenger. It's not my fault the three digit combo you played was never drawn in 10,000 drawings. Nor is it my fault after being out $9,999, you were still betting $1 trying to win $500.

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                        Don't blame me, I'm just the messenger. It's not my fault the three digit combo you played was never drawn in 10,000 drawings. Nor is it my fault after being out $9,999, you were still betting $1 trying to win $500.

                        Are you suggesting that Jimmy has actually being playing the lottery trying to win after years of telling others that such effort is a waste of time?

                         * you don't need to buy more tickets, just buy a winning ticket * 
                           
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                          Are you suggesting that Jimmy has actually being playing the lottery trying to win after years of telling others that such effort is a waste of time?

                          I think he had a very bad experience when the number he was playing wasn't drawn in ten years.

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                            Don't blame me, I'm just the messenger. It's not my fault the three digit combo you played was never drawn in 10,000 drawings. Nor is it my fault after being out $9,999, you were still betting $1 trying to win $500.

                            Did Jimmy4164 lose $10,000 playing the lottery?

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                              Don't blame me, I'm just the messenger. It's not my fault the three digit combo you played was never drawn in 10,000 drawings. Nor is it my fault after being out $9,999, you were still betting $1 trying to win $500.

                              $1 bets add up over the long term.

                                 
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