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New York instant scratch off tickets - new tickets with less odds to win

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Posted: July 12, 2015, 7:06 pm - IP Logged

Payouts for $10 games (not including bingo) - annuitized values used for top prize

 

$1M cashword - 1:3.67 odds and 64.77% payback

Set for Life - 1:3.95 odds and 73.71% payback (note that is higher than cash x100 w 73.57% and almost as high as the $30 w a 73.8% payback)

$3M supercash - 1:3.6 odds and 74.43% payback (think that 2nd highest currently out there in NYS or at least till they pull it shortly)

Instant Millionaire - 1:3.61 odds and 74.05% payback

 

so what did we learn here - the regular $10 tickets (not crossword and bingo) are better than the $20s if u take the annuity if u win the top prize - it does not hold up if u take the cash value (makes payback around 71-72%) - u getting pretty much the same overall payback on the $20s (the 20+s are all cash value wins not annuities except for the life tix)

 

even if the new $10 ticket has a payback on par w cash x100 would still be a good ticket to play compared to other games this state offers

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    Posted: July 12, 2015, 7:27 pm - IP Logged

    finally did math on other tix and here is what i found:

     

    the $1 games (not including the classics like loose change, lucky 7s, and instant take 5) are coming out with payouts around 61-62%

    the $2 and $3 games are coming out with payouts around 62-64%

    the $5 games (not including crosswords) are at 64-68% but the 68% figure only applies to royal riches and ice bank which has a high 67.x% payout

     

    the higher priced tix i mentioned above - seems like the 1s are slightly better than other states and the rest slightly worse (the $20 and $25s are WAY worse as i have seen a lot of states around 79-82%, but have seen other states as low as 75% on the expensive tix as well)

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      Posted: July 12, 2015, 9:12 pm - IP Logged

      finally did math on other tix and here is what i found:

       

      the $1 games (not including the classics like loose change, lucky 7s, and instant take 5) are coming out with payouts around 61-62%

      the $2 and $3 games are coming out with payouts around 62-64%

      the $5 games (not including crosswords) are at 64-68% but the 68% figure only applies to royal riches and ice bank which has a high 67.x% payout

       

      the higher priced tix i mentioned above - seems like the 1s are slightly better than other states and the rest slightly worse (the $20 and $25s are WAY worse as i have seen a lot of states around 79-82%, but have seen other states as low as 75% on the expensive tix as well)

      Great job, yp, thanks so much for posting this information!! You're very knowledgeable in your facts, awesome job!!Cheers

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        Posted: July 14, 2015, 2:13 pm - IP Logged

        New NY games - $1 triple black cherry or something like that (slots game w tripler), $2 whole lotta 100s ($100 symbol, 2x, 5x), same old $5 ticket called fantastic 5s (but plays like the old $5 7-11-21 i think) and $10 quick $600s (top prize $600 and hope there a boatload of them otherwise not worth playing - think have to be odds less than 1:2500 to even be worth it by a payout perspective but will have to do the math after work so will not be playing the $10 on day 1

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          Posted: July 15, 2015, 8:08 pm - IP Logged

          New NY games - $1 triple black cherry or something like that (slots game w tripler), $2 whole lotta 100s ($100 symbol, 2x, 5x), same old $5 ticket called fantastic 5s (but plays like the old $5 7-11-21 i think) and $10 quick $600s (top prize $600 and hope there a boatload of them otherwise not worth playing - think have to be odds less than 1:2500 to even be worth it by a payout perspective but will have to do the math after work so will not be playing the $10 on day 1

          Thanks as always, yp!!

          When are the new tickets coming out? did I read right - a new $10 ticket with a top prize of only $600? I'm sure there will be a bunch of top prizes if that's the case.

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            Posted: July 15, 2015, 8:24 pm - IP Logged

            yes you read that right and coming out the 21st

             

            and it is 600 tax free - no going to claim center needed - am hoping the odds on that will be good know probably monday how many top prizes

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              Posted: July 15, 2015, 9:15 pm - IP Logged

              yes you read that right and coming out the 21st

               

              and it is 600 tax free - no going to claim center needed - am hoping the odds on that will be good know probably monday how many top prizes

              Thanks so much! I'll buy a few tickets next week and feel it out....should be interesting to see what other smaller prizes are offered and the odds for those as well.

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                Posted: July 16, 2015, 2:01 pm - IP Logged

                new set for life 1212 will post differences below

                old

                $1011.94.201681$42.02
                $1541.671.199904$18.00
                $2016.672.9994$59.99
                $2527.781.799856$45.00
                $50252$100.00
                $100131.250.380952$38.10
                $50017500.028571$14.29
                $1,0007411.760.006746$6.75
                $5,0001050000.000476$2.38
                $50,00010500004.76E-05$2.38
                $5,000,00063000007.94E-06$39.68
                12.61764$368.57
                3.96270573.714%

                 

                new

                $1011.364.401408$44.01
                $1541.671.199904$18.00
                $2017.862.799552$55.99
                $2527.781.799856$45.00
                $50252$100.00
                $100119.420.41869$41.87
                $50030900.016181$8.09
                $1,0001236000.000405$0.40
                $5,0003296000.000152$0.76
                $50,00020600002.43E-05$1.21
                $5,000,00061800008.09E-06$40.45
                12.63618$355.79
                3.95689271.158%
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                  Posted: July 16, 2015, 7:48 pm - IP Logged

                  new set for life 1212 will post differences below

                  old

                  $1011.94.201681$42.02
                  $1541.671.199904$18.00
                  $2016.672.9994$59.99
                  $2527.781.799856$45.00
                  $50252$100.00
                  $100131.250.380952$38.10
                  $50017500.028571$14.29
                  $1,0007411.760.006746$6.75
                  $5,0001050000.000476$2.38
                  $50,00010500004.76E-05$2.38
                  $5,000,00063000007.94E-06$39.68
                  12.61764$368.57
                  3.96270573.714%

                   

                  new

                  $1011.364.401408$44.01
                  $1541.671.199904$18.00
                  $2017.862.799552$55.99
                  $2527.781.799856$45.00
                  $50252$100.00
                  $100119.420.41869$41.87
                  $50030900.016181$8.09
                  $1,0001236000.000405$0.40
                  $5,0003296000.000152$0.76
                  $50,00020600002.43E-05$1.21
                  $5,000,00061800008.09E-06$40.45
                  12.63618$355.79
                  3.95689271.158%

                  Thanks for the info! The new odds are worse than the old ones. Chances to win $500 fell from 1 in 1750 to 1  in 3090, and so on...that's insane.

                  But unfortunately people will continue to buy the new series and the NYS lottery will continue distributing new tickets with even less odds to win.

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                    Posted: July 16, 2015, 9:59 pm - IP Logged

                    of course - and only 200 1k winners down from about 4k before (and 75 5k winners) - think NY has a severe allergy and they are allergic to people visiting their claim centers

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                      Posted: July 17, 2015, 8:17 pm - IP Logged

                      I got really slammed on the $25 Golden Ticket today,I saw a woman buy 2 and lose and ended up buying 8 and I won NOTHING. WTF

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                        Posted: July 17, 2015, 8:40 pm - IP Logged

                        I got really slammed on the $25 Golden Ticket today,I saw a woman buy 2 and lose and ended up buying 8 and I won NOTHING. WTF

                        Sorry to hear that. I got 8 losers in a row on a $20 ticket once in PA, but have never seen 10 losers. Are the tickets just as bad in NY?

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                          Posted: July 17, 2015, 8:49 pm - IP Logged

                          they actually better in PA imo lol - see how they nerfed set for life above - 25 million tickets in the game and not even 300 tickets $1000 or more

                           

                          and it a 10 dollar game nonetheless

                           

                          that $25 ticket also has insanely high odds of 1:3.82 - granted lowest prize is $40 but still

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                            Posted: July 17, 2015, 8:51 pm - IP Logged

                            they actually better in PA imo lol - see how they nerfed set for life above - 25 million tickets in the game and not even 300 tickets $1000 or more

                             

                            and it a 10 dollar game nonetheless

                             

                            that $25 ticket also has insanely high odds of 1:3.82 - granted lowest prize is $40 but still

                            Yeah odds are supposedly better in PA, but the problem is I never see the wins, lol. Good luck all

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                              Posted: July 17, 2015, 9:16 pm - IP Logged

                              I got really slammed on the $25 Golden Ticket today,I saw a woman buy 2 and lose and ended up buying 8 and I won NOTHING. WTF

                              Oh wow, I'm so sorry to hear that! I've been there and it's painful. But to keep it positive, tomorrow will be a better day with better luck!!Cheers

                                 
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