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Do you REALLY think it is possible to predict winning numbers?

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Ok. Finally got to get some work done without redoing and redoing and redoing. I'm guessing this 1909 update for Windows 10 was my problem. Must have been. As soon as I typed that, I got a notification on that. How weird.

Anyway, I'm seeing that by doing this in months instead of straight forward game to game, that there is differences in the months and I will have to set it up to adjust differently for each month. That will be no big deal to make that happen. I just need to be able to get all my months stats done. Not having OS problems will make that possible.

It's crazy how certain months will do something that others do not. Going game to game I already ran stats on and the difference is amazing when looking at it this way. It is completely different. Completely. I ran every game from January through this since 2007. 2007 stats are useless in this because I have to have so many games to make this work correctly, but they are ran also. So the stats will be just for January of 2008, 2009, 2010 all the way through 2019 for what I'm posting now. This is just for starting pool with no filtering of even/odd, up or down or anything else. Just as small of a pool that I can get with as many hits/wins as possible per month. Setting the percentages on January is completely different than it is for the other months I've done. Each have been different so far.

I did a "tune" on January but nothing other than a 2 decimal point tune. This will be able to go with as many decimal points as Excel will handle and/or is needed. (For future reference on all of this.) But I tuned it with a 2 decimal point starting point. Each position at a different percentage and here was the results.

For starting pool, per position it showed: (This is average options out of 12 years worth of January draws.) 8 options for the first, 11 options for the second, 12 options for the third, 12 options for the fourth and 8 options for the fifth. No filtering done at this point. That would be the next steps to cut it on down.

Here is the complete run of options for each January from 2008 to 2019.

#1 #2  #3   #4  #5
 6   10   8    11   7     2008   
 7   11   12   9    6     2009   
 8   13   12  11   8     2010   
 8   10   13  10   8     2011   
 8   10   12  12   8     2012   
 8   11   13  12   8     2013
 8   10   12  12   7     2014
 8   10   12  12   7     2015
 8   11   12  12   7     2016
 8   12   12  14   10   2017
 8   13   13  14   10   2018
 8   14   13  15   12   2019

With these options per pick it showed:

Minimum                   
0  5 of 5 
2  4 of 5 
6  3 of 5 
5  2 of 5 
3  1 of 5


11  Hits #1
10  Hits #2
9    Hits #3
8    Hits #4
14  Hits #5

 

Maximum
5    5 of 5
10  4 of 5
11  3 of 5
14  2 of 5
8    1 of 5


26 Hits #1
21 Hits #2
20 Hits #3
17 Hits #4
25 Hits #5

 

Average
2   5 of 5
6   4 of 5
10 3 of 5
8   2 of 5
5   1 of 5


19 Hits #1
16 Hits #2
15 Hits #3
15 Hits #4
21 Hits #5

 

This was the full run of win opportunities and hits per position for every January of the period.

 

1/20081/20091/20101/20111/20121/20131/20141/20151/20161/20171/20181/2019
013121222154 5 of 5
3566875281079 4 of 5
116111110111011109117 3 of 5
71479681195658 2 of 5
854334376533 1 of 5
              
              
111826181818191921182020 Hits #1
101421141717141317162019 Hits #2
91810201116191315151716 Hits #3
15813171715171414161716 Hits #4
221820142420161721242525 Hits #5

I put part of this in the post this morning, but it screwed up when posting it so I edited it out. (Maybe so I could rest this brain a little and look at it clearer?)

I'm sure that NONE of this will make sense to most, if any. Since there is only a couple that knows what I'm doing. Not sure if it really makes sense to me. Other than I know what I'm looking for. What I am looking for is the smallest pool possible to choose from for each pick for each draw that happens. If I know that I can get by with 6 to 8 options for the 1st and 5th, still have the winning number show up around half to 70% or so of the draws per position, then I'm only making it easier to win. Finding a standard, if even by month, knowing whether or not I need to increase or decrease options to keep that 50% to 70% hit ratio per month will be crucial to doing that.

If you look at the first positions options, it pretty well stays constant. 6,7,8,8,8,,,,. The first position seems to move slower than the rest as far as growth. (Is that because there's more time between the first number drawn? As in there is 24 hours between draws, first position has that wait period, then jumps into the other four picks rather fast, stops, then another wait period.) (Just a mental note I can come back to.) (Does the first picks options jump from 8 to 9 by the end of January 2020 and head into another cycle? Revert back to 7? Stay at 8?)

Second positions options run up, peak at 13 in 2010 then drop. Stay at 10 until the peak of 11 in 2013 then drop back to 10. Then they run up and peak at 14 in 2019. The highest peak was 2010 with 13, then 14 in 2019. Taking the dates to a sum, you have 2010 2+0+1+0=3. 2019 is 2+0+1+9=12=1+2=3. I'm THINKING that MAY be a cycle end. Will January of 2020 drop back down to 10? Will it drop back down to 11? Or does it stay 14 or jump to 15? (I'll let it be known in 10 days.) IF it is a cycle, but a cycle that grows, I'm going to say there will be 11 options for January 2020. Kind of like a spinning circle that moves slightly one direction as it goes along. (That's how I'm looking at this and things that I'm looking for with it.)

Third positions options seem to be riding a 12-13 wave. The 13 peak comes in 2011, 2013 and 2018. Date sums of 4,6 and 2. I do find it odd that the majority of the options was 12 (1+2=3) and 13 (1+3=4). Looking at it as the third option moving into the 4th. 2019 had 13 options. (2019 is 2+0+1+9=12=3). Does January 2020 end up with 14 options for the third starting a new cycle? 2009 to 2010 stayed at 12, but that's 2009 (2+0+0+9=11=2) and 2010 (2+0+1+0=3). Where as 2019 is (2+0+1+9=3) and 2020=4. (Maybe the third option (center) is like the fulcrum of a pulley? You pull one side, and it raises the other in that sort of terms.)

Fourth positions options are very similar to the seconds I see. They are just slightly larger than the seconds, not quite as high as the thirds as a whole run, but are larger and growing slightly faster. Weird. It runs low (1st), slightly higher (2nd), peaks (3rd), tapers off again slightly (4th), drops again (5th). The fourth position was the first to reach 14 options (2017) but the second was right behind it 2 years later in 2019. Will I be able to go off of the 2nd's readings to use on the 4th? Going back and forth, comparing 4th to 2nd, +1, -2, -2, same, +2, +1, +2, +2, +1, +2, +1, +1. Can I keep to that pattern for the 4th option? Will I need 2 more options for the 4th for this January? 2 less? I don't see a triple repeat of +/- 1 or 2.

The fifth option. How weird. It starts off with a complete reversal of the first pick. 6 7 to 7 6. Rode the 8 for 4 years. Then dropped by one for three years. It did spike up to 10 for 2017, BUT there was 2 balls added to the pool in may of 2016 and those 2 balls would only be possible as a largest pick option. That kinda covers what happened there. There was also 2 balls added in 2018 which would explain the 12 for 2019. Good thing about that is, I already know that 5 is set LOW and there is plenty of room to adjust up and still keep the hits right at 20 per month. Raising the number pool only means adjust, or having it adjust to keep up with it it's self. I can see from this set that I will need to have it go up a certain % with each ball change or drop back with less balls.

Odd how the matrix change didn't affect the first position, only really on the 2nd and 3rd, barely on the 3rd but more so on the 5th. And of course the more games played, the more numbers will be drawn and calculated, the more the percentages would lower as time went on. So there would have to be changes to keep up with that also. As of now though these are ran at a manually changed percentage, whereas once each month is done, I can make it change to fit the needs as it goes along. Then run a full test with it changing on it's own and see how it keeps up.

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    Probability Math says that for the Pwrball ( red)... The following balls are most promising...for drawing 1/22/20

    26,13,25,10,19,4,...

     

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      Probability Math says that for the Pwrball ( red)... The following balls are most promising...for drawing 1/22/20

      26,13,25,10,19,4,...

       

      -Stat$talker

      Looks like they got you with an 8. Must be the 18, 5, 17, 2, 11, 4 off disease.Green laugh

      What goes around comes around.

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        Looks like they got you with an 8. Must be the 18, 5, 17, 2, 11, 4 off disease.Green laugh

        No No I didn't say they were the only ones,... I said, most promising..and believe it or not , I had "8" in my Analysis...it was at 392 games back...the Math said 391.6 and 65.5... thus it was at 66 games back..They know I know this... So...only anticipatory to dodge what the Math says is obvious...

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        These are the Lottery Voyages of Stat$talker..!!

        The ongoing Mission,..to seek out the Laws of "Probability Math"...

         to master its rules to invoke...to Conquer ALL Major Jackpots..!!

        ...To boldly go,... Where NO Player has gone before...!!

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          Looks like they got you with an 8. Must be the 18, 5, 17, 2, 11, 4 off disease.Green laugh

          That's just too funny Mr B. LOL

          You can't steal second and keep your foot on FIRST!!!

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          When you go through hardships and decide not to surrender, that is strength”.

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            No No I didn't say they were the only ones,... I said, most promising..and believe it or not , I had "8" in my Analysis...it was at 392 games back...the Math said 391.6 and 65.5... thus it was at 66 games back..They know I know this... So...only anticipatory to dodge what the Math says is obvious...

            -Stat$talker

            Don't know what happened to your post here Stat, but it said part of this, (up to Analysis...) when I first read it, then it had everything following that when I got back from my last reply. How weird. Never seen that happen before.

            How are you coming up with the 391.6 and the 65.5 numbers? Is that a games back analysis? Haven't checked the Powerball numbers in some time now. Is there really a Powerball number that is 392 games out? That far out, with just 26 red balls? A year and 27 days? WOW! I am behind on that game bad.

            You can't steal second and keep your foot on FIRST!!!

            “Strength does not come from winning. Your struggles develop your strengths.
            When you go through hardships and decide not to surrender, that is strength”.

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              Don't know what happened to your post here Stat, but it said part of this, (up to Analysis...) when I first read it, then it had everything following that when I got back from my last reply. How weird. Never seen that happen before.

              How are you coming up with the 391.6 and the 65.5 numbers? Is that a games back analysis? Haven't checked the Powerball numbers in some time now. Is there really a Powerball number that is 392 games out? That far out, with just 26 red balls? A year and 27 days? WOW! I am behind on that game bad.

              Yea Green Fox,

              It is really a forward and back-checking analysis process....

              Most software, including mine, doesn't even register a number event so far off the charts...but Probability Math does...the "391.6 and 65.5" is its Laws, verifying, that any numbers coming from the Class that "8" was in ( along with other Pwrball numbers, that didnt appear), MUST meet its measurement's criterias in order to appear, thus governing "randomness"..!!

              I normally do pick 1 or 2 numbers from this seemingly infrequent Class,  and in fact, DID include "8" in my Analysis..and as always, it stirs up the Naysayers ,in their frustrations to quinch their insatiable thirst to debunk Probability Math, simpy because THEY fail to understand it..while others green with envy, simply because it's proclaimed from my Posts, with tickets to back it up. But , like all things Divine, Its secrets are revealed to a select few, who humble and respect the orders of the Universe once discovered... Often having to pay a high price for such depth of understanding...

              Galileo, Nostradamus, Jesus,... etc...

              That's why I've said to Naysayers,.." Does 2+2=4 because we humans say so?...and does it always =4, or only sometimes?.. It's Math you know?..."

              It's always AS accurate as it is ANYTIME, for any Mathematical problem, no matter how simple, or complex..!! It speaks the Truth, and can never lie...

               

              -Stat$talker

              ...MATH... The final Stochastic frontier...

              These are the Lottery Voyages of Stat$talker..!!

              The ongoing Mission,..to seek out the Laws of "Probability Math"...

               to master its rules to invoke...to Conquer ALL Major Jackpots..!!

              ...To boldly go,... Where NO Player has gone before...!!

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                Don't know what happened to your post here Stat, but it said part of this, (up to Analysis...) when I first read it, then it had everything following that when I got back from my last reply. How weird. Never seen that happen before.

                How are you coming up with the 391.6 and the 65.5 numbers? Is that a games back analysis? Haven't checked the Powerball numbers in some time now. Is there really a Powerball number that is 392 games out? That far out, with just 26 red balls? A year and 27 days? WOW! I am behind on that game bad.

                Not sure what Stat$ talker's analysis procedure is, but number 8 was only 59 games back as a Red ball and 14 games back as a White ball.

                What goes around comes around.

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                  Yea Green Fox,

                  It is really a forward and back-checking analysis process....

                  Most software, including mine, doesn't even register a number event so far off the charts...but Probability Math does...the "391.6 and 65.5" is its Laws, verifying, that any numbers coming from the Class that "8" was in ( along with other Pwrball numbers, that didnt appear), MUST meet its measurement's criterias in order to appear, thus governing "randomness"..!!

                  I normally do pick 1 or 2 numbers from this seemingly infrequent Class,  and in fact, DID include "8" in my Analysis..and as always, it stirs up the Naysayers ,in their frustrations to quinch their insatiable thirst to debunk Probability Math, simpy because THEY fail to understand it..while others green with envy, simply because it's proclaimed from my Posts, with tickets to back it up. But , like all things Divine, Its secrets are revealed to a select few, who humble and respect the orders of the Universe once discovered... Often having to pay a high price for such depth of understanding...

                  Galileo, Nostradamus, Jesus,... etc...

                  That's why I've said to Naysayers,.." Does 2+2=4 because we humans say so?...and does it always =4, or only sometimes?.. It's Math you know?..."

                  It's always AS accurate as it is ANYTIME, for any Mathematical problem, no matter how simple, or complex..!! It speaks the Truth, and can never lie...

                   

                  -Stat$talker

                  What's up Stat?

                  I just must not be understanding what you are doing. I couldn't believe that a number would be that far out with just 26 options. I pulled a powerball csv file and did a run back on it. The 8 was the powerball on June 29, June 5 and June 1. That's 59, 66 and 67 draws back. That makes sense to me that amount. 392 games does not so why would it be checking that far back? How did it come up with the number 391.6? The 65.5 I can see however, with the 66. Why did it skip the 29th draw at 59? Is there some kind of anomaly or connection between 65.5 and 391.6? If so, what? Why did it not pick up on the other 13 times that 8 was drawn in between the 65.5 and 391.6? Is it something to do with the connection between the 65.5 and 391.6? Why, Why, Why. LOL

                  I don't know. This may just be over my head. I'll just have to stick to my shovel and uneducated guesses I suppose. If it's working for you though, lay it to it.

                  You can't steal second and keep your foot on FIRST!!!

                  “Strength does not come from winning. Your struggles develop your strengths.
                  When you go through hardships and decide not to surrender, that is strength”.

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                    Not sure what Stat$ talker's analysis procedure is, but number 8 was only 59 games back as a Red ball and 14 games back as a White ball.

                    I just found that out Mr-B. Did a run back on it myself to see. Took longer to post the reply than find that out. That 391.6, thinking that many draws back blew what bit of mind I had left. Maybe he'll answer some of the questions in my reply? IDK. Maybe I'm just not getting it? It may be more than my brain is capable of understanding?

                    You can't steal second and keep your foot on FIRST!!!

                    “Strength does not come from winning. Your struggles develop your strengths.
                    When you go through hardships and decide not to surrender, that is strength”.

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                      What's up Stat?

                      I just must not be understanding what you are doing. I couldn't believe that a number would be that far out with just 26 options. I pulled a powerball csv file and did a run back on it. The 8 was the powerball on June 29, June 5 and June 1. That's 59, 66 and 67 draws back. That makes sense to me that amount. 392 games does not so why would it be checking that far back? How did it come up with the number 391.6? The 65.5 I can see however, with the 66. Why did it skip the 29th draw at 59? Is there some kind of anomaly or connection between 65.5 and 391.6? If so, what? Why did it not pick up on the other 13 times that 8 was drawn in between the 65.5 and 391.6? Is it something to do with the connection between the 65.5 and 391.6? Why, Why, Why. LOL

                      I don't know. This may just be over my head. I'll just have to stick to my shovel and uneducated guesses I suppose. If it's working for you though, lay it to it.

                      Well,...

                      In short, Probability Math has no way of knowing WHAT'S being measured... in this case, it was only 1 ball at a time..(the red) Pwrball, so the process uses several numerical validation markers to ensure there's no ambiguity to what is obeying its Laws..!!

                      No other balls were at those 2 identifying markers.  ( 65.5 AND 391.6)

                      For the life of me, I can't understand why some accuse it of being MY Math...!!

                      The Laws change, when the future drawing is completed...thus only applicable to the future outcomes...

                      That's why I, as did others before me, stand in staunch support of its ability to predict...if you understand its numerical language...

                      Ok... naaaah,.. Here comes the usual Naysayers.. B it 216 to 1954, from KY, Stacks of unbridled satire to the cotton clouds...  Cussing Face  LOL

                      -Stat$talker

                      ...MATH... The final Stochastic frontier...

                      These are the Lottery Voyages of Stat$talker..!!

                      The ongoing Mission,..to seek out the Laws of "Probability Math"...

                       to master its rules to invoke...to Conquer ALL Major Jackpots..!!

                      ...To boldly go,... Where NO Player has gone before...!!

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                        "No other balls were at those 2 identifying markers. ( 65.5 AND 391.6)"

                        Stat$talker, Are these markers coming from the software that you are using?

                        Thanks.

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                          "No other balls were at those 2 identifying markers. ( 65.5 AND 391.6)"

                          Stat$talker, Are these markers coming from the software that you are using?

                          Thanks.

                          No... It stems from an understanding of Probability Math...and for the Record,.. it is NOT my Math...no more than Gravity belongs to anyone.. It is a part of an aggregation of Universal Laws and Principles..!

                          Everything is governed by some Law, or Principles.

                          Probability Math governs randomness...despite what you may read from cyber hecklers...

                          -Stat$talker

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                          These are the Lottery Voyages of Stat$talker..!!

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                          ...To boldly go,... Where NO Player has gone before...!!

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                            Well,...

                            In short, Probability Math has no way of knowing WHAT'S being measured... in this case, it was only 1 ball at a time..(the red) Pwrball, so the process uses several numerical validation markers to ensure there's no ambiguity to what is obeying its Laws..!!

                            No other balls were at those 2 identifying markers.  ( 65.5 AND 391.6)

                            For the life of me, I can't understand why some accuse it of being MY Math...!!

                            The Laws change, when the future drawing is completed...thus only applicable to the future outcomes...

                            That's why I, as did others before me, stand in staunch support of its ability to predict...if you understand its numerical language...

                            Ok... naaaah,.. Here comes the usual Naysayers.. B it 216 to 1954, from KY, Stacks of unbridled satire to the cotton clouds...  Cussing Face  LOL

                            -Stat$talker

                            If it has no way of knowing what's being measured, how is it measuring? It has to be doing some sort of measuring to know what to look for and what to do, doesn't it? How did it come up with those particular markers? 65.5 would have put it right on 66 games back, rounded up and 391.6 would have put it on 392, rounded up, so it would have been right on it as far as that goes. What made those markers stand out to it as opposed to say 58.7 which would have put it on 59 and the last time 8 was actually drawn as the bonus ball? What would have made the 13 other times in between the 59 and 392 different so that they was not picked up? I have a very visual mind where as if i can see it, I can understand it. I'm not seeing how those two markers was picked up and not the others where 8 was drawn, so I can't understand it. I can also see where the laws would change because of the new draws added. They have to. Whatever math one is using, any new addition will bring about change.

                            I'm sure probability math has been around for some time. Unless you made some kind of twist to it that made it your own language of understanding, then it just is what it is. I don't know jack win it comes to probability math, so I can't say. If you have it figured out, that's all that matters I guess. I'd just like to know how you came up with those specific markers if it doesn't know what's being measured.

                            You're in with a tough crowd is all I can say. That tough crowd is also very very highly intelligent and been doing this for a long time. They know their numbers, their programming, what works and what doesn't. It would be extremely hard to get anything past them or bring something they haven't seen before. I'm fairly smart myself, but I can't touch a lot of the people on here. I don't want to or try to. What I post gives nothing away to what I'm really doing unless you have these books and videos I've made to follow along. It is only results that with the work one can follow along and see what's what. Knowing that one day I won't be here and can't just take it with me. Here, unless Todd decides to delete it, it will be here for as long as he doesn't. The work I've done will eventually come out and the guidelines will be here to understanding it and using it. Plus it helps me see what I need to do next by talking about it. Maybe explaining it will help you and all of us understand?  I mean, I don't think you just looked back and saw that 8 was 66 draws back or 392 back and said "hmm, 65.5 sounds good or 391.6 sounds about right" and threw it out there. You would have saw the 59 games back if that was the case. So there had to be some way that it chose those markers. That's what I'm trying to understand. If it gets that close, and I can understand how or why, I could see looking into it.

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                              Looks like they got you with an 8. Must be the 18, 5, 17, 2, 11, 4 off disease.Green laugh

                              I predict about every day knowing there is no exact way to predict numbers or digits.

                              But if someone wants to prove there is a "1-off disease", 25 PB or MM numbers on five lines will 100% guarantee having at least one number being "1-off". The problem is with PB and MM there is no payoffs for being "1-off" and with a less than 6% chance of matching at least one number makes saying "my number[s] were "1-off" meaningless.

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