Four4me - you wrote: "justxploring i can honestly say when i worked as a manager i put out more woman/woman fires than men/men fires. It seems the men usually work it out among themselves while the women tended to make it a company wide event facilitating some kind of disciplinary actions"
That is precisely what I am talking about. I chose to stay outside of the drama that was integral to the atmosphere in that place. There were two of the 8 women that were specifically "ringleaders" of it. Both claimed that the other was the supervisor's pet and they would be friendly and talking one day and the next day you could cut the tension with a knife between them. And my cubicle just happened to be smack in the middle!
The only difference in the situation is that I was the only temp on that shift. These girls had all chosen to take the permanent position from temp within the last 6 months to 2 years that they had been working there. They constantly expressed their dissatisfaction with their job and worked just hard enough to get by without any flack from upper management. Here I show up, just happy to have a job, working at the same competency level in 2 weeks as they expect out of someone by the end of 6 months and only attain from 2 people on the shift.
Moving to day shift is a coveted goal here in central Iowa and difficult to achieve if you have been established in evenings with the same company. Someone has to retire or be fired and then it has to be more financially sound to expend more hours training you in the different procedures and replacing you in your old position than to just hire a newbie to the day side. As a temp I was sitting on the easiest way to get to days, end my assignment. It was a happy coincidence, at first, that I would be staying in the same building. Unfortunately I shared my good fortune truly hoping that these girls who had befriended me would be happy for me knowing that it was the only way I could keep working, and instead they griped and got me canned.
Side note: csfb - good advice that I learned the hard way, but the other thing is as a temp don't shine too brightly or the permanents will find a way to get rid of you! (okay, maybe I'm just bitter!)
As for the housing situation in California vs. Iowa my taxes are only 400 annually and we have 4 acres with the nearest neighbor about ½ mile away. (My mom still lives in NJ and is insanely jealous!) But keep in mind the income is proportionately low with the expenses here. The average income is between 25 and 40K. It'd be murder to survive on that in Cali as a homeowner.
And finally justxploring: You wrote: "So what are you saying here? That most women are "brutal" and you are the exeption? It must mean I'm a b**ch too and Emily and Lilly and Spy and GameGrl and Tenaj and Uff Da and .... well, you got the picture. Women are loving, nuturing, kind and generous."
I am no stranger to LP and have read many posts from you and the others you listed (just been a lurker off and on for 2 years) so I am surprised to see you jump at me like that. I gave you no reason to think that I hate women in general. And by no means do I think that makes you, et al. b**ches. There is a lot of competition for good jobs in the rural area where I live and they are difficult to get into without having the right connections.
Bottom line, and what you should have inferred from my comments is that these women who befriended me and complimented me on how quickly I learned the ropes and worked not only quickly but also well, betrayed me. The sad part is, they are still working nights. A different temp was put in the spot that they were going to give to me. Nobody benefited from the sniping. THAT, my dear, is BRUTAL.
Now, the only way I could say that you would be a b**ch is if you admit that you would stoop that low to hurt someone just for the sake of your pride.
You wrote: "Really? I guess you never watched any political campaigns over the past several decades. Obviously you never sold cars or worked in the financial world."
I admit I have never sold cars or worked in the financial world, and have tried not to watch the campaigns because of the way they are conducted. I believe that the hardworking laymen of our country are more honorable than our politicians though. Even though I do have some very dear female friends with whom I have a wonderful relationship, I have always had a better rapport with men, maybe it is my type A personality, and maybe it's the Jersey or the sailor, or the trucker's daughter in me. I just relate better to them. Give me a few honest hardworking men to work side by side with and I will be happy to go to work every day, without the migraines or the gossip. I think I'm done now!!! LOL