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What do you do to Increase your Odds of Winning?

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Posted: January 23, 2010, 10:11 pm - IP Logged

Thanks  badboy00z, You are the best.  I think I will reword my topic!  Never be too wise badboy00z,  it will leave you in the arid-desert land of knowitallness; I try to stay green, an older man said to me once, "Rosina stay green; when you'r too ripe you rot"

You could chage your username to goodbad/boy!!

I never claim to be a know it all and I don't really appreciate the sarcasm.

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    I never claim to be a know it all and I don't really appreciate the sarcasm.

    No sarcasm intended at all, If you see I even thanked you;  and did Proceed to change the question as you so wisely sudgested, I even started a new topic based on our conversation! Pardon if it appeared as such!

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      Posted: January 23, 2010, 10:19 pm - IP Logged

      I play MM and there are over 175 million possible combinations. I can buy 1 million tickets and it's possible that none of them will hit the jackpot so it all depends on luck.

      True, but if you bought 175 million QPs and thought you had the same chance of winning as someone who bought all 175 million possible combinations then you would be wrong.

      That depends on how the QP system works. If it picks number sets from all 175 million combinations without repeating outout then I don't see why you won't have the same chance of winning.

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        No sarcasm intended at all, If you see I even thanked you;  and did Proceed to change the question as you so wisely sudgested, I even started a new topic based on our conversation! Pardon if it appeared as such!

        Cool. That's the problem with online forums. Genuine modesty can often come across as sarcasm so I apologize.

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          Cool. That's the problem with online forums. Genuine modesty can often come across as sarcasm so I apologize.

          no apologie is necessary my friend, thank you! I am curious to what kind of responce we are going to receive with the new topic!

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            badboyOOz said and I quote.."it all depends on luck"..badboyOOz you are tiggs hero..Say it again over and over.."it all depends on luck"..

            Oh boy..........I'm not waiting for Luck!

            Badboy is your nic for Ozzy Osborne? LOL sorry had to ask.

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              Oh boy..........I'm not waiting for Luck!

              Badboy is your nic for Ozzy Osborne? LOL sorry had to ask.

              No it's not. To be honest I've used this login name for so long I don't remember why I chose it. Lol.

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                Oh boy..........I'm not waiting for Luck!

                Badboy is your nic for Ozzy Osborne? LOL sorry had to ask.

                ca-dreamin*

                "Oh boy..........I'm not waiting for Luck!"

                There's nothing else but luck.

                Those who run the lotteries love it when players look for consistency in something that's designed not to have any.

                Lep

                There is one and only one 'proven' system, and that is to book the action. No matter the game, let the players pick their own losers.

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                  Posted: February 18, 2010, 8:51 pm - IP Logged

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                  "Oh boy..........I'm not waiting for Luck!"

                  There's nothing else but luck.

                  I'm still not waiting for luck! LOL  Remember I play Little Lotto. MM and PB equal insanity! To win either of those is something far greater than luck!

                  If I truly believed  winning was all luck I would buy QP's and not give the lottery another thought.

                  To me saying it's all about luck is saying I'm going to buy a ticket and hope I get lucky enough to match my numbers to the winning numbers! Or should I say hope the winning numbers match my numbers! If all I do is "hope" I get lucky then I will always be " hoping".

                  If I blindly buy a QP and I win...then yes I'll say that was luck.

                  If I choose to play birthdays, ages, favorite numbers etc and they all hit......that is definitely luck.

                  If I choose to believe I'm gonna win and I play numbers based on past draws, gut feelings , dreams or any other signs...that's not luck! Remember syncronicity?

                  Kind of like " if it's your time to win" I'm not gonna wait for it to be my time......I'm gonna make it my time!

                  I don't know if you believe in the Laws of Attraction but when you put out what you want to the Universe and the doors start to open you still have to do your part. That's not luck either.

                  I know people are gonna disagree on this and that's ok.

                  We all want to win and when we win.......it's all good.......whatever our beliefs!

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                    I'm still not waiting for luck! LOL  Remember I play Little Lotto. MM and PB equal insanity! To win either of those is something far greater than luck!

                    If I truly believed  winning was all luck I would buy QP's and not give the lottery another thought.

                    To me saying it's all about luck is saying I'm going to buy a ticket and hope I get lucky enough to match my numbers to the winning numbers! Or should I say hope the winning numbers match my numbers! If all I do is "hope" I get lucky then I will always be " hoping".

                    If I blindly buy a QP and I win...then yes I'll say that was luck.

                    If I choose to play birthdays, ages, favorite numbers etc and they all hit......that is definitely luck.

                    If I choose to believe I'm gonna win and I play numbers based on past draws, gut feelings , dreams or any other signs...that's not luck! Remember syncronicity?

                    Kind of like " if it's your time to win" I'm not gonna wait for it to be my time......I'm gonna make it my time!

                    I don't know if you believe in the Laws of Attraction but when you put out what you want to the Universe and the doors start to open you still have to do your part. That's not luck either.

                    I know people are gonna disagree on this and that's ok.

                    We all want to win and when we win.......it's all good.......whatever our beliefs!

                    Disagree?

                    Tiggs is gonna go berserk! lol


                                                                 
                                         
                                                             

                     

                     

                     

                     

                                                                                                                       

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                      I'm still not waiting for luck! LOL  Remember I play Little Lotto. MM and PB equal insanity! To win either of those is something far greater than luck!

                      If I truly believed  winning was all luck I would buy QP's and not give the lottery another thought.

                      To me saying it's all about luck is saying I'm going to buy a ticket and hope I get lucky enough to match my numbers to the winning numbers! Or should I say hope the winning numbers match my numbers! If all I do is "hope" I get lucky then I will always be " hoping".

                      If I blindly buy a QP and I win...then yes I'll say that was luck.

                      If I choose to play birthdays, ages, favorite numbers etc and they all hit......that is definitely luck.

                      If I choose to believe I'm gonna win and I play numbers based on past draws, gut feelings , dreams or any other signs...that's not luck! Remember syncronicity?

                      Kind of like " if it's your time to win" I'm not gonna wait for it to be my time......I'm gonna make it my time!

                      I don't know if you believe in the Laws of Attraction but when you put out what you want to the Universe and the doors start to open you still have to do your part. That's not luck either.

                      I know people are gonna disagree on this and that's ok.

                      We all want to win and when we win.......it's all good.......whatever our beliefs!

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                      Now, does it count??

                       

                       

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                        ca-dreamin*,

                        Yeah, I know you play Little Lotto. Here's the last two years, individually and combined. So far this year it's been 16 Player Picks and 17 QPs not counting tonight.

                        First, the results for the last two years; 

                        These were the 2008 results:

                        146 Jackpots

                        120 QP   82.19%

                        91 PS      62.32%

                        (includes shared jackpots)

                        2008 was a leap year. So in 366 days jackpots were paid out 146 times or every 2.506 days

                        82.19% of the jackpot winners were QP

                        62.32% were player's selections, or PS

                        2009

                        365 drawings, 157 jackpots, a hit every 2.32 days.

                        To date:

                        157 Jackpots

                        132 QP   84.07%

                        87 PS      55.41%

                        Total jackpot money paid out to date: $33,295,000

                        Here's the results for 2008, 2009, and combined:

                        Two years combined

                        731 drawings

                        303 Jackpots

                        252 QP  83.16%

                        178 PS   58.74%

                        So it looks like the QP players were luckier.

                        Now, you said;

                        " If I choose to play birthdays, ages, favorite numbers etc and they all hit......that is definitely luck.

                        If I choose to believe I'm gonna win and I play numbers based onpast draws, gut feelings , dreams or any other signs...that's not luck!Remember syncronicity?

                        Kind of like " if it's your time to win" I'm not gonna wait for it to be my time......I'm gonna make it my time!

                        I don't know if you believe in the Laws of Attraction but when youput out what you want to the Universe and the doors start to open youstill have to do your part. That's not luck either.

                        I know people are gonna disagree on this and that's ok."

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                        No, it's still luck. Whatever it's called, synchronicity or anything else, it's still luck when the numbers you played, no matter how arrived at, are the numbers drawn.

                        The Law of attraction does a lot to sell self-help books, (yeah, I've read it) but when the Law of attraction is used in the attempt to win multi millions of dollars in a lotto, it kind of becomes neutral towards that. The reason is that on any given drawing night millions of people are trying to use the Law of Attraction to win a jackpot - thus asking to shut out everyone else doing the same thing.

                        Those who run the lotteries love it when players look for consistency in something that's designed not to have any.

                        Lep

                        There is one and only one 'proven' system, and that is to book the action. No matter the game, let the players pick their own losers.

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                          Many more play QP than PSelect?

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                            I know we all play to win, and we play this man's lottery, because it is, as I was so accurately told; "The working stiff chance to get out of the Trap" So now what do you do, I know many don't believe in a System,  I do---mine! because it works for me! And I don't knock others who have one and it works for them. I do the work out to Increase my odds, what do you do?

                            Well, it really isn't a system if there' no causality.   It doesn't matter what kind of frequency analysis, addition, subtraction or multiplying that you do, if there isn't a reason behind it then it's just arithmetic.  

                            Methods of covering odds such as wheels are just too rich for my blood as you wind up buying hundreds of tickets and most wheels involve selecting a subset of the numbers to cover often chosen by frequency statistics but the mechanics of the draw are such that the difference between a "hot" and a "cold" number is not significant nor is the concept of "hot" and "cold" even tracked well due to the order of the draw.  

                            For the draw lotteries, the only thing that I do is ensure that there is no or at least minimal overlap between the lines that I do purchase and I have a program that I wrote to chose the lines at random such that the lines don't share any number combinations at all.   All this results in is that for the dollars that I do spend on a draw lottery, I get the maximum number of chances to win a prize.   For example, two tickets with the numbers of 1 2 3 4 5 6 and 2 3 4 5 6 7 has fewer chances to win a prize then two tickets with the numbers of 1 2 3 4 5 6 and 7 8 9 10 11 12 simply due to the overlap in number combinations.  

                            For scratchoff tickets, it gets a lot more complicated as you can actually calculate the various odds as the lottery commission publishes what prizes have been claimed on a daily basis.   With the scratch off tickets, I've been rating them three ways.  One where I assign a rating proportional to the logarithms of the prize value and inversely proportional to the logarithms of the odds against said prize values (much as logarithmic scales are used with rating hurricanes and earthquakes, I figure it's really the scale and not the specific value that's important).   The second is where I work out the odds of the scenario where $100 of tickets is purchased and all prizes won below a target prize amount is reinvested into buying more tickets hence giving me ratings per targets such as $1,000 prize or better.   The third is where I work out the expected return but only considering the prizes that have a 50% or better probability of being won for given investment amounts such as $20, $100, $1000.   The idea is that the first method (the logarithmic scale) is a good overall indicator favoring smaller prizes and more prize levels in a game, the second is a good indicator given a target result and the third is an indicator of which game will give you the most in small wins while waiting for the big win.   Fortunately, it doesn't take long to update the spreadsheet with the published values each day and the ratings tend not to change much day to day, indeed they rarely change at all which is a good sanity check for the validity of the rating systems.

                            The odds with scratchoff games are much better than with draw games but you tend to spend more with the scratchoff games due to their higher price and the draw games have a much larger top prize amount.   But my four out of five number match in last week's Mega Millions only netted $150 while a $20 scratchoff ticket in December netted $1,000.   The draw games may have large top prizes but all other prizes are quite pitiful.

                            Remember that even if you are improving the odds by a factor of thousands, it's still a very very long shot.

                            The lottery isn't the only way for a working stiff to get out of the trap.   Steady dollar cost averaging in investments over a couple of decades can easily make you a millionaire but the lottery is the only way to get out of a desperate situation if you are living beyond your means and have not been able to set anything aside for savings.    Ironically, the amount that you play in lotteries could very well be enough to establish a good portfolio.

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                              The Chinese believe the number 8 is lucky because the pronunciation in Chinese is similar to the Chinese word for "rich". Also it is the infinity symbol if it was on its side.

                              8 is also two times 4 and the pronunciation of the number 4 in all Asian languages is the same as death in the same language hence 8 gets two deaths and you have to be very lucky to die twice.   The pronunciation of 8 isn't the same as "rich" in all asian languages but the pronunciation of 4 is the same as "death" in all asian languages.   The pronunciation of 8 is more correctly described as being the same as "full" in mandarin not "rich".   Four is the big superstitious number in asian cultures to the point where there will not be a fourth floor in an elevator much as there isn't a 13th floor in North American elevators.

                                 
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