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Posted: February 20, 2010, 1:22 am - IP Logged

This is very interesting...interesting indeed. To start with, the basic rule of thumb to increase one's odds of winning is to play more selections (numbers). These numbers need to be properly balanced as well and there are many ways to accomplish this based on what little I know. This can be very effective with the smaller Pick games like 3 & 4 where everything can be sifted down to "bare bones".

I'm still learning but, as far as I can see, the more numbers you can afford to play and "tune in" the better off you are. Again, this is just a basic "default" type answer. Sure, like many of you, I've seen people hit with $5 on a pure quick pick, a hunch, whim, birthday, and you name it. It happens. Questions is, how often does that happen to that same person?

Luck is always better than skill but, skill is far more consistent. It's been proven time and time again. Recently, I was watching a segment called "Breaking Vegas" where some college students got together on developing a system to consistently win on Roulette. Everything, and I repeat everything works around timing. These people had cameras set up to time when the ball would reach a certain area of the wheel, how long it took for it to make a complete revolution, and so forth. It was all about timing. They did this part of it at home and then took the timing system to Vegas to execute it.

One guy had an electrical device in his shoe to send signals to his wingman who had an electrical device (receiver) taped to his chest area. When the timing was right, his buddy would signal him. It worked flawlessly until the gut on the table started to get nervous and sweat because he was winning CONSISTENTLY and the watchdogs were now curious and on to him. The sweat caused the device to shock and burn him. They also had a "wingchic" in on it and she was also burned due to sweating from the pressure of being caught.

 Point is, they did what they had to do to put the odds in their favor and they won big money back then. Due to complications, they abandoned that technique and eventually went their separate ways. It was very interesting and I got a rush from what they accomplished!!

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    Posted: February 20, 2010, 1:28 am - IP Logged

    I play both mid AND eve draws. Better chance of hitting numbers.

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      Posted: February 20, 2010, 3:13 am - IP Logged

       I like the name "full" for the number 8,  Full of life since it is the sign of eternity, full of all good things, And while it is true that 8 is twice 4, It is also true that  1+7=8 and all the other additions that will bring you to the number 8 that are not funest. I am still partial to the number 8.  by the way it is interesting that 1+3=4

      It's "full" in the context of being sated, of having your fill of food not full of life or of good things in general.   Languages are tricky that way.   That's probably where the tie in to "rich" came from as having plenty of food is associated with wealth.

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        Posted: February 20, 2010, 3:23 am - IP Logged

        I hope that I never get 4 or 5 of 6 numbers when playing MM or Super lotto Plus. Some might think I'm crazy for not wanting to match as many numbers as possible but you have a good point. People who match 4-5 of 6 numbers will probably never get that close again. But anything is theoretically possible since all the numbers are there every draw. However it is statistically impossible.

        I guess that sucks for me, but I doubt I'll stop playing just because I had that 4 out of 5 hit on Mega Millions last week.

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          Posted: February 20, 2010, 6:54 am - IP Logged

          I play only QP's, but I try and buy from machines that seem to give better numbers....

          It seems to work....

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            Posted: February 20, 2010, 8:48 pm - IP Logged

            LUCK is the only answer..You can not and will not ever handicap ping pong balls..LUCK<<<----dig???....jrosina you best start believeing in LUCk or give me some winning numbers if your so sure it's not LUCK..If everyone said they win with skill why ain't all these skilled people rich from the lottery?..Because of LUCK..Simple..

            OK this is what I believe......

            When Tiggs wins it will be because of luck! WHY???? Because Tiggs believes with all his heart the only way to win is luck sooooo luck will fall his way!

            I don't want to say there's no such thing as luck but this is what I don't like about the saying "it's all about luck". To me that says forget about how you picked your numbers (as in don't waste your time picking numbers) because unless you get lucky.....your gonna lose.  I can't just sit around and play every lottery game on the chance that maybe today I'll get lucky.

            On the flip side I'm starting to believe it really doesn't matter what numbers I choose because if I truly believe I'm a winner and I truly believe my ticket is gonna be a winner the balls will fall to match my ticket! Yes I know that sounds crazy but it's something I'm starting to think about.

            I look at past draws to choose my numbers. It's true you can't handicap ping pong balls and if I really start to think about the idea of predicting what balls will fall next....I start thinking that idea is absolutely crazy! But you know what? I put that idea OUT of my head because the patterns do exist. Sometimes the logical mind works against us. HAHA thank God I'm a lefty!

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              Posted: February 20, 2010, 8:55 pm - IP Logged

              OK this is what I believe......

              When Tiggs wins it will be because of luck! WHY???? Because Tiggs believes with all his heart the only way to win is luck sooooo luck will fall his way!

              I don't want to say there's no such thing as luck but this is what I don't like about the saying "it's all about luck". To me that says forget about how you picked your numbers (as in don't waste your time picking numbers) because unless you get lucky.....your gonna lose.  I can't just sit around and play every lottery game on the chance that maybe today I'll get lucky.

              On the flip side I'm starting to believe it really doesn't matter what numbers I choose because if I truly believe I'm a winner and I truly believe my ticket is gonna be a winner the balls will fall to match my ticket! Yes I know that sounds crazy but it's something I'm starting to think about.

              I look at past draws to choose my numbers. It's true you can't handicap ping pong balls and if I really start to think about the idea of predicting what balls will fall next....I start thinking that idea is absolutely crazy! But you know what? I put that idea OUT of my head because the patterns do exist. Sometimes the logical mind works against us. HAHA thank God I'm a lefty!

              I'm getting dizzy I need to lay down..

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                Posted: February 20, 2010, 9:27 pm - IP Logged

                I'm getting dizzy I need to lay down..

                Tiggs,Tiggs you are ..HAHALolLOLLllllI can't stop laaughing0h 0h my goodness LOLLllmmhhoooff hahahh Green laugh

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                  Posted: February 21, 2010, 9:13 am - IP Logged

                  OK this is what I believe......

                  When Tiggs wins it will be because of luck! WHY???? Because Tiggs believes with all his heart the only way to win is luck sooooo luck will fall his way!

                  I don't want to say there's no such thing as luck but this is what I don't like about the saying "it's all about luck". To me that says forget about how you picked your numbers (as in don't waste your time picking numbers) because unless you get lucky.....your gonna lose.  I can't just sit around and play every lottery game on the chance that maybe today I'll get lucky.

                  On the flip side I'm starting to believe it really doesn't matter what numbers I choose because if I truly believe I'm a winner and I truly believe my ticket is gonna be a winner the balls will fall to match my ticket! Yes I know that sounds crazy but it's something I'm starting to think about.

                  I look at past draws to choose my numbers. It's true you can't handicap ping pong balls and if I really start to think about the idea of predicting what balls will fall next....I start thinking that idea is absolutely crazy! But you know what? I put that idea OUT of my head because the patterns do exist. Sometimes the logical mind works against us. HAHA thank God I'm a lefty!

                  Hey there ca-dreamin! I read your post and agree with you 100% about this luck business. I'm seeing where people are quoting "it's ALL about luck", or "you have to be lucky to win", and "when or if it's my turn to win, I'll win". Well all of this is true in its' own perspective and mostly in its' own percentages. Personally, those that say Pick 3/4 is ALL about luck don't really understand anything about numbers and are solely at the pure mercy of the mechanical or RNG draw method.

                  With the Mega Millions / Powerball and regular 6/49 type games, you are just plain lucky if or when you hit...PERIOD. Way too many numbers and variance involved to develop any strategy or system by which to play and match a complete winner. It's better, with these games, to simply allow the machine to select a few picks for you.

                  With the small games like 3/4, there are substantially less combinations to worry with and little variance among the draws. One can sit down, put together a robust playlist and hit str8 with reasonable consistence and patience. If people would only try and educate themselves more about the game they'd see where both SKILL and LUCK work together and when your SKILL FAILS hopefully LUCK is there to back him up. Simple.

                  SKILL is more consistent that LUCK all day everyday in their own respect, of course. If I play a list of numbers and realize that it's actually the wrong list for a given state I planned for, this is where I want luck to prevail for me and make sure I still win. If I've forgotten to take out numbers I'm certain won't win and those numbers are actually drawn and I still win, this is where you want your LUCK.

                  I believe you have the right idea overall but, there are a few people here who are simply not even trying to give themselves a chance. Diminishing Returns will keep the lottery in business for ever because of LUCK and I'm glad!!! Keep at it ca-dreamin and you'll eventually hit...I believe this!!

                  L.L.

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                    Hey there ca-dreamin! I read your post and agree with you 100% about this luck business. I'm seeing where people are quoting "it's ALL about luck", or "you have to be lucky to win", and "when or if it's my turn to win, I'll win". Well all of this is true in its' own perspective and mostly in its' own percentages. Personally, those that say Pick 3/4 is ALL about luck don't really understand anything about numbers and are solely at the pure mercy of the mechanical or RNG draw method.

                    With the Mega Millions / Powerball and regular 6/49 type games, you are just plain lucky if or when you hit...PERIOD. Way too many numbers and variance involved to develop any strategy or system by which to play and match a complete winner. It's better, with these games, to simply allow the machine to select a few picks for you.

                    With the small games like 3/4, there are substantially less combinations to worry with and little variance among the draws. One can sit down, put together a robust playlist and hit str8 with reasonable consistence and patience. If people would only try and educate themselves more about the game they'd see where both SKILL and LUCK work together and when your SKILL FAILS hopefully LUCK is there to back him up. Simple.

                    SKILL is more consistent that LUCK all day everyday in their own respect, of course. If I play a list of numbers and realize that it's actually the wrong list for a given state I planned for, this is where I want luck to prevail for me and make sure I still win. If I've forgotten to take out numbers I'm certain won't win and those numbers are actually drawn and I still win, this is where you want your LUCK.

                    I believe you have the right idea overall but, there are a few people here who are simply not even trying to give themselves a chance. Diminishing Returns will keep the lottery in business for ever because of LUCK and I'm glad!!! Keep at it ca-dreamin and you'll eventually hit...I believe this!!

                    L.L.

                    After this wonderful statement I now rename you "Winning Player"!!!Approve

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                      I use the term ‘good luck’ now and then but it is just part of the vernacular. I think luck plays a very big role in the games because it is just another watered down superstition. It might be the underlying definitive of all superstitions. It is a belief system, and therefore a system in itself. Gail Howard used the term ‘Smart Luck’ to describe her products. She included some kind of horriblescope for number selection if one was so inclined to depart from number analysis. Suckers love their superstitions and they are an industry in themselves. A real system requires more effort than sleep, dreaming or whishing. 

                         Superstitions pay the electric bill and more in the gambling industry. Any systems players or extremely ‘Lucky’ players are not welcome in casinos. If you play blackjack and win well, all the casino has to do is say they think you were counting cards and are a cheat. A game of chance is not allowed to be played like a game of skill. If one was to win outside of calculated odds, they are considered to be cheating. The casinos really do not believe in luck because they are expected to win based on statistics. That is their Smart Luck. It is calculated and defined with little variance. Statistics define cheaters.

                      A casino or lottery does not have to win 100% of the time because they win on the average. That is their system and it works very well. No luck is involved, it is an expected outcome. You are not crazy if you expect to beat the odds even if they are against you, but you might want to know your odds. Finding ways to improve your chances is the foundation of a real system. How does one reduce the odds for advantage?

                      Any system’s intent is to win on the average over a period of time and events. Anything one can do that is not superstition to improve chances or odds to win could be construed as cheating, based on how the 'house'  expects results. Anybody who wins above the average is not always considered a cheat, but there is a limit expected and then the tide turns; the house wins.

                      Anybody who plays a system expects to improve their winning chances. One event is enough to prove a system if all the rules of the system are adhered to, including buying quick picks. Repeatability of a system’s success is based on many things, one of them is not luck. That’s why quick picks are popular. You will likely hear of more quick pick winners than systems winners. The idea is for you to believe every event of a winner is purely random quick pick luck. You are expected to believe the most successful system is the quick pick. The number of winners using a system is a hidden statistic and hard to prove. Early jackpot games had fewer combinations than they do today but the base payout remains the same. The reason more numbers were added are several, but one was not because people were luckier back then.

                       Adding more numbers made for jackpot hysteria and made the job of lottery busters harder.

                      It was a win-win for the lotteries. Pure dumb luck.Wink

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                        I use the term ‘good luck’ now and then but it is just part of the vernacular. I think luck plays a very big role in the games because it is just another watered down superstition. It might be the underlying definitive of all superstitions. It is a belief system, and therefore a system in itself. Gail Howard used the term ‘Smart Luck’ to describe her products. She included some kind of horriblescope for number selection if one was so inclined to depart from number analysis. Suckers love their superstitions and they are an industry in themselves. A real system requires more effort than sleep, dreaming or whishing. 

                           Superstitions pay the electric bill and more in the gambling industry. Any systems players or extremely ‘Lucky’ players are not welcome in casinos. If you play blackjack and win well, all the casino has to do is say they think you were counting cards and are a cheat. A game of chance is not allowed to be played like a game of skill. If one was to win outside of calculated odds, they are considered to be cheating. The casinos really do not believe in luck because they are expected to win based on statistics. That is their Smart Luck. It is calculated and defined with little variance. Statistics define cheaters.

                        A casino or lottery does not have to win 100% of the time because they win on the average. That is their system and it works very well. No luck is involved, it is an expected outcome. You are not crazy if you expect to beat the odds even if they are against you, but you might want to know your odds. Finding ways to improve your chances is the foundation of a real system. How does one reduce the odds for advantage?

                        Any system’s intent is to win on the average over a period of time and events. Anything one can do that is not superstition to improve chances or odds to win could be construed as cheating, based on how the 'house'  expects results. Anybody who wins above the average is not always considered a cheat, but there is a limit expected and then the tide turns; the house wins.

                        Anybody who plays a system expects to improve their winning chances. One event is enough to prove a system if all the rules of the system are adhered to, including buying quick picks. Repeatability of a system’s success is based on many things, one of them is not luck. That’s why quick picks are popular. You will likely hear of more quick pick winners than systems winners. The idea is for you to believe every event of a winner is purely random quick pick luck. You are expected to believe the most successful system is the quick pick. The number of winners using a system is a hidden statistic and hard to prove. Early jackpot games had fewer combinations than they do today but the base payout remains the same. The reason more numbers were added are several, but one was not because people were luckier back then.

                         Adding more numbers made for jackpot hysteria and made the job of lottery busters harder.

                        It was a win-win for the lotteries. Pure dumb luck.Wink

                        Hey Delta-Draw! To add to what you said would be stupid! I Concur!!!

                        forget what "they" say about youWhat you say about you?...

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                          I am trying to improve my odds of winning by playing my numbers str8 and boxed. Kansas doesn't have it on their playslip so I put exact on a number and then any order on the same number. Then when I can afford it I play those numbers for 3 days. I had the number 752 for Friday-Sunday 2/19/10-2/21/10. Friday's hit was 726 Saturday's hit was 571. Thos 2 hits looked at my 752 and were sayin nah-nah-nah. Tonight is my last chance for the 752.

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                            I am trying to improve my odds of winning by playing my numbers str8 and boxed. Kansas doesn't have it on their playslip so I put exact on a number and then any order on the same number. Then when I can afford it I play those numbers for 3 days. I had the number 752 for Friday-Sunday 2/19/10-2/21/10. Friday's hit was 726 Saturday's hit was 571. Thos 2 hits looked at my 752 and were sayin nah-nah-nah. Tonight is my last chance for the 752.

                            If your going to play numbers and if your going to play them straight box them too!!..It should be the law..

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                              If your going to play numbers and if your going to play them straight box them too!!..It should be the law..

                              I do box them. Kansas playslips doesn't have the option of st/bx or whatever it looks like. So I play the numbers Exact (str8) and Any Order (box)

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