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Playing these 6/26/10, 12 lines, not sure if I will play the ones with 32 in P4, that would be a repeat for that position. From ID 4.

 

15-23-25-32-35
16-23-26-32-36
10-13-20-23-32
10-13-21-23-32
10-13-22-23-32
14-23-24-31-32
14-23-24-32-34
15-23-25-31-32
16-23-26-31-32
17-23-27-31-32
18-23-28-31-32
19-23-29-31-32

started with these

10,12,23,30,32
10,20,23,30,32
10,21,23,30,32
10,22,23,30,32
15,21,23,32,35
15,22,23,32,35
15,23,25,32,35
16,21,23,32,36
16,22,23,32,36
16,23,26,32,36
10,12,13,23,32
10,12,23,31,32
10,12,23,32,33
10,13,20,23,32
10,13,21,23,32
10,13,22,23,32
10,20,23,31,32
10,20,23,32,33
10,21,23,31,32
10,21,23,32,33
10,22,23,31,32
10,22,23,32,33
14,21,23,31,32
14,21,23,32,33
14,21,23,32,34
14,22,23,31,32
14,22,23,32,33
14,22,23,32,34
14,23,24,31,32
14,23,24,32,33
14,23,24,32,34
15,21,23,31,32
15,21,23,32,33
15,22,23,31,32
15,22,23,32,33
15,23,25,31,32
15,23,25,32,33
16,21,23,31,32
16,21,23,32,33
16,22,23,31,32
16,22,23,32,33
16,23,26,31,32
16,23,26,32,33
17,21,23,31,32
17,21,23,32,33
17,22,23,31,32
17,22,23,32,33
17,23,27,31,32
17,23,27,32,33
18,21,23,31,32
18,21,23,32,33
18,22,23,31,32
18,22,23,32,33
18,23,28,31,32
18,23,28,32,33
19,21,23,31,32
19,21,23,32,33
19,22,23,31,32
19,22,23,32,33
19,23,29,31,32
19,23,29,32,33

 

CB

I played tonight, and everything looked good. I have only played two or three times in the past 

couple months so I played 18 lines

numbers drawn "06 08 10 11 12"  hight # = 12  I hate RNG's  I think I will start a petition to get

the ball drop back in missouri. We voted the lottery in I think we can vote the RNG"S out.

ID = 5 I played 6

TD = 8 I played 9-10

DED = 2 I played 1

MDn = 2 I played 3

played digits 1-2-3-5-6  with  4-7-8-9 wild

had 0 blocked  

01 17 25 26 36
03 15 16 18 26
03 15 16 26 38
03 15 16 28 36
03 16 18 26 35
03 16 25 26 39
06 13 16 18 25
06 15 16 18 23
06 15 16 23 38
06 15 29 32 36
06 16 18 23 35
06 19 25 32 36
06 25 31 36 38
13 16 25 26 38
13 16 25 28 36
16 18 23 26 35
16 21 25 26 37
16 23 25 26 39

RL

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I will consider the opinion that my winnings are a product of chance if you are willing to consider

they are not.  Many great discoveries come while searching for something else

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    Playing these 6/26/10, 12 lines, not sure if I will play the ones with 32 in P4, that would be a repeat for that position. From ID 4.

     

    15-23-25-32-35
    16-23-26-32-36
    10-13-20-23-32
    10-13-21-23-32
    10-13-22-23-32
    14-23-24-31-32
    14-23-24-32-34
    15-23-25-31-32
    16-23-26-31-32
    17-23-27-31-32
    18-23-28-31-32
    19-23-29-31-32

    started with these

    10,12,23,30,32
    10,20,23,30,32
    10,21,23,30,32
    10,22,23,30,32
    15,21,23,32,35
    15,22,23,32,35
    15,23,25,32,35
    16,21,23,32,36
    16,22,23,32,36
    16,23,26,32,36
    10,12,13,23,32
    10,12,23,31,32
    10,12,23,32,33
    10,13,20,23,32
    10,13,21,23,32
    10,13,22,23,32
    10,20,23,31,32
    10,20,23,32,33
    10,21,23,31,32
    10,21,23,32,33
    10,22,23,31,32
    10,22,23,32,33
    14,21,23,31,32
    14,21,23,32,33
    14,21,23,32,34
    14,22,23,31,32
    14,22,23,32,33
    14,22,23,32,34
    14,23,24,31,32
    14,23,24,32,33
    14,23,24,32,34
    15,21,23,31,32
    15,21,23,32,33
    15,22,23,31,32
    15,22,23,32,33
    15,23,25,31,32
    15,23,25,32,33
    16,21,23,31,32
    16,21,23,32,33
    16,22,23,31,32
    16,22,23,32,33
    16,23,26,31,32
    16,23,26,32,33
    17,21,23,31,32
    17,21,23,32,33
    17,22,23,31,32
    17,22,23,32,33
    17,23,27,31,32
    17,23,27,32,33
    18,21,23,31,32
    18,21,23,32,33
    18,22,23,31,32
    18,22,23,32,33
    18,23,28,31,32
    18,23,28,32,33
    19,21,23,31,32
    19,21,23,32,33
    19,22,23,31,32
    19,22,23,32,33
    19,23,29,31,32
    19,23,29,32,33

     

    CarBob

    I need your help, Your up more than $80.00 bucks in two plays, every ticket a winner

    Way to go!!!!

    RL

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    I will consider the opinion that my winnings are a product of chance if you are willing to consider

    they are not.  Many great discoveries come while searching for something else

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      I just checked some stats from MO. lottery show me 5 game

      last nights drawing 2-6-8-10-11

      Match 5 of 5 =1 for $167,059

      Match 4 of 5 =37  for $250.00  this is the one that really bothers me....

      Match 3 of 5 =1183  for $10.00

      Match 2 of 5 =10,832  for $1.00 

      3 draws in the history of the game had a 5th number lower than or equal to 12.  Does anyone find

      this strange.  Not that 2-6-8-10-11 was drawn but the number of tickets which won a prize.  If you

      don't, then I pitty you more than I do the players in missouri. remember there are 792 sets in the

      12 numbers. 

      RL

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      I will consider the opinion that my winnings are a product of chance if you are willing to consider

      they are not.  Many great discoveries come while searching for something else

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        I just checked some stats from MO. lottery show me 5 game

        last nights drawing 2-6-8-10-11

        Match 5 of 5 =1 for $167,059

        Match 4 of 5 =37  for $250.00  this is the one that really bothers me....

        Match 3 of 5 =1183  for $10.00

        Match 2 of 5 =10,832  for $1.00 

        3 draws in the history of the game had a 5th number lower than or equal to 12.  Does anyone find

        this strange.  Not that 2-6-8-10-11 was drawn but the number of tickets which won a prize.  If you

        don't, then I pitty you more than I do the players in missouri. remember there are 792 sets in the

        12 numbers. 

        RL

        Based on the general fact that when the average lotto player picks their own numbers, they will pick low numbers less than 31 (based on birthdays, etc.) and a lot of the numbers selected will be ages of children, etc., there will always be a lot of winners for the lower prizes particularly.  Based on the odds of the game...575,757 it appears that at most there were probably only 125,000 tickets sold at a $1 a play.  This can be determined by multiplying the number of winners in each category by the odds of winning that prize.  The answers vary from around 121,000 to 125,000.  With that number of tickets sold, the odds of someone winning were about 4.5-5.0 to 1.  Quite a difference of winners when the numbers jumped into the 30's as they did tonight.

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          Based on the general fact that when the average lotto player picks their own numbers, they will pick low numbers less than 31 (based on birthdays, etc.) and a lot of the numbers selected will be ages of children, etc., there will always be a lot of winners for the lower prizes particularly.  Based on the odds of the game...575,757 it appears that at most there were probably only 125,000 tickets sold at a $1 a play.  This can be determined by multiplying the number of winners in each category by the odds of winning that prize.  The answers vary from around 121,000 to 125,000.  With that number of tickets sold, the odds of someone winning were about 4.5-5.0 to 1.  Quite a difference of winners when the numbers jumped into the 30's as they did tonight.

          lottobrain

          I agree, I just hate that so many people play so low of numbers. If I played like that then only about twice

          a year could I expect to win any good prize amount.  I am sure that the winner would disagree with me.

          I am glad they won, I just think that most people throw good money away playing like this, but it's there

          money. I want everyone to win.

          RL

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          I will consider the opinion that my winnings are a product of chance if you are willing to consider

          they are not.  Many great discoveries come while searching for something else

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            Yes, it is a shame that so many players choose their numbers in this fashion, potentially cutting down heir chances for a nice jackpot.  I remember many years ago, before Powerball came into existence, Florida had one of the biggest jackpot lotteries at the time and when one jackpot got up in the millions, people were flying into Florida to buy tickets. Some were mortgaging their houses and buying thousands of dollars worth of tickets. On one drawing, it was reported that the most popular combination was 1, 2, 3 ,4 5, 6 which was played 50,000 times. There would have been a lot of disappointment had those numbers came out.

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              Yes, it is a shame that so many players choose their numbers in this fashion, potentially cutting down heir chances for a nice jackpot.  I remember many years ago, before Powerball came into existence, Florida had one of the biggest jackpot lotteries at the time and when one jackpot got up in the millions, people were flying into Florida to buy tickets. Some were mortgaging their houses and buying thousands of dollars worth of tickets. On one drawing, it was reported that the most popular combination was 1, 2, 3 ,4 5, 6 which was played 50,000 times. There would have been a lot of disappointment had those numbers came out.

              lottobrain

              I think I remember that, it was a long time ago.  I am in the same pot as most of the people around

              here.  But if i ever won a pot that way I would bragg on it anyway, that's a nice chunk of change.

              I know there is no real way to get much of a edge on the game but keep playing anyway.  Some 

              think it can be beat but I just want to be at the right place at the right time and the only way to do

              that is to play.  I was working with standard deviation today and do you know what would be considered

              a normal SD for a 5-39 game like mine.  I found a set of numbers that make up around 30% of the 

              sets but had only hit rate of 24%.  I know the game is less than two years old but that seemed a little

              high for the sets I used.  Given long enough I would say it will fall to around +/-3%  but it was a bit of

              a shock when I checked it.  The new RNG's are far more than the ones of just a few years ago and I don't

              trust them at all.   

              RL

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              I will consider the opinion that my winnings are a product of chance if you are willing to consider

              they are not.  Many great discoveries come while searching for something else

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                Hello RL,

                I want to start by saying thinks for starting this thread and thanks to all the brilliant minds working on it.  I was lurking for a while and still will be because I really can't contribute to anything. I'm little slow on the uptake ( I have to read some things more than once to get the understanding of it).  I'm still trying to understand how to use winsumloosesum excel file so I can adapt it to the SC cash5 (if its possible). In the mean time I'm interested in the "powerball group effort", I think I followed the data you posted for that.

                Again thanks everyone.

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                  Hello RL,

                  I want to start by saying thinks for starting this thread and thanks to all the brilliant minds working on it.  I was lurking for a while and still will be because I really can't contribute to anything. I'm little slow on the uptake ( I have to read some things more than once to get the understanding of it).  I'm still trying to understand how to use winsumloosesum excel file so I can adapt it to the SC cash5 (if its possible). In the mean time I'm interested in the "powerball group effort", I think I followed the data you posted for that.

                  Again thanks everyone.

                  Seachelle

                  Thank you very much. I would like to add that others, if interested can send me a PM for the

                  data and instructions.  I have decided to do it using private message and send the results back

                  the same way.  I can only receive 40 PM's as i only have a standard membership.

                  Many thanks

                  RL

                  Working on my Ph.D.  "University of hard Knocks"

                  I will consider the opinion that my winnings are a product of chance if you are willing to consider

                  they are not.  Many great discoveries come while searching for something else

                  USAF https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prime_Base_Engineer_Emergency_Force

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                    CarBob

                    I need your help, Your up more than $80.00 bucks in two plays, every ticket a winner

                    Way to go!!!!

                    RL

                    RL,

                    A few posts back, I mentioned breaking the ID's into groups of 3 by position. For the 5/36 games this creates 636 filters, orther words, it breaks 376,992 combinations into 636 groups. The last 2 draws was a waste, because I wasn't paying attention to the stats. The most hit group is TD 9- ID 6- 444444, which hit last night, after skipping 61 draws, has 6541 combinations.

                    TD ID FILTER # COMBOS HITS  SKIPS
                    9   6  444444      6541          60   61

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                      RL,

                      A few posts back, I mentioned breaking the ID's into groups of 3 by position. For the 5/36 games this creates 636 filters, orther words, it breaks 376,992 combinations into 636 groups. The last 2 draws was a waste, because I wasn't paying attention to the stats. The most hit group is TD 9- ID 6- 444444, which hit last night, after skipping 61 draws, has 6541 combinations.

                      TD ID FILTER # COMBOS HITS  SKIPS
                      9   6  444444      6541          60   61

                      Carbob,

                      Very interesting filter.

                      What positions do you use to create the 444444?

                      "P1-P2-P3" "P1-P2-P4" "P1-P2-P5" "P1-P3-P4" "P1-P3-P5" "P1-P4-P5" "P2-P3-P4" "P2-P3-P5" "P2-P4-P5" "P3-P4-P5"

                      For a 5 Position Game for Florida you can actually create 10 ID's.

                      Thanks

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                        Carbob,

                        Very interesting filter.

                        What positions do you use to create the 444444?

                        "P1-P2-P3" "P1-P2-P4" "P1-P2-P5" "P1-P3-P4" "P1-P3-P5" "P1-P4-P5" "P2-P3-P4" "P2-P3-P5" "P2-P4-P5" "P3-P4-P5"

                        For a 5 Position Game for Florida you can actually create 10 ID's.

                        Thanks

                        CB and winsum

                        I have another idea that I would like you to consider.  I will coin the phrase Wtracs.

                        A  Wtrac is two Vtracs squeezed together.  V V = VV.  Each Wtrac would have 3 digits.

                        Wtracs =10  [0-1-2   1-2-3   2-3-4   3-4-5   4-5-6   5-6-7   6-7-8   7-8-9   8-9-0   9-0-1]

                        Notice every digit apears once in 3 of the groups and that 2 digits are in 2 of the groups

                        First a little math.  Lets say that we have or first digits selected for the 5 positions,  if we

                        select 1 Wtrac for each of the five positions, then the maximum unfiltered sets that could 

                        be made would be 3X3X3X3X3 or 243 sets.  When using Vtracs in the same way then a

                        maximun of 32 sets would result.  You must be thinking that, Why would one want to even

                        consider using Wtracs when Vtracs only produce 13% of the 243 of a Wtrac.   Consider

                        this,  you must select 1 of 5 for each of the 5 positions.  5x5x5x5x5=3125 possible, so the

                        chance of matching all 5 vtracs for any one play is 1 / 3125 = .00032.  With a Wtrac, at

                        first glance you have to select one of ten for each of the 5 positions which would be

                        10x10x10x10x10 or 100000 that would give you a 1/100000 or .00001 chance, but look

                        again.  Lets say that the second digit in the first position is "1"  with a Vtrac if you miss

                        your selection there is no chance of hitting the diigit, however with a Wtrac you have 3

                        Wtracs that all contain the digit "1" within them.  3/10 = .33  to a  Vtracs 1/5 =.20.  So

                        you could have selected Wtracs 1, 2, or 10 and still hit a "1" for position #1 second digit.

                        A 33% vs 20% even though there are more to choose from.  A single run with 243 total

                        unfiltered sets is a very good starting point in my opinon,  I have found that with the right

                        blend of filters a one can get a reduction of 50 to 1 and still have a very high hit rate. 

                        If one uses TD and ID first than even less or a reduction is needed.  Just something to 

                        think about.

                        RL

                        Working on my Ph.D.  "University of hard Knocks"

                        I will consider the opinion that my winnings are a product of chance if you are willing to consider

                        they are not.  Many great discoveries come while searching for something else

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                          Carbob,

                          Very interesting filter.

                          What positions do you use to create the 444444?

                          "P1-P2-P3" "P1-P2-P4" "P1-P2-P5" "P1-P3-P4" "P1-P3-P5" "P1-P4-P5" "P2-P3-P4" "P2-P3-P5" "P2-P4-P5" "P3-P4-P5"

                          For a 5 Position Game for Florida you can actually create 10 ID's.

                          Thanks

                          Steve,

                          Sorry, I didn't respond sooner, just read yours and RL's posts.

                           I used P1P2P3;P1P2P4;P1P2P5;P1P3P4;P1P3P5;P1P4P5 GIVES YOU 6 INTEGERS AND BREAKS A 5/36 GAME INTO 636 COMBINATIONS.

                           

                          RL, that's a very good idea! Knowing Steve, he has probably started experimenting with it.

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                            CB and winsum

                            I have another idea that I would like you to consider.  I will coin the phrase Wtracs.

                            A  Wtrac is two Vtracs squeezed together.  V V = VV.  Each Wtrac would have 3 digits.

                            Wtracs =10  [0-1-2   1-2-3   2-3-4   3-4-5   4-5-6   5-6-7   6-7-8   7-8-9   8-9-0   9-0-1]

                            Notice every digit apears once in 3 of the groups and that 2 digits are in 2 of the groups

                            First a little math.  Lets say that we have or first digits selected for the 5 positions,  if we

                            select 1 Wtrac for each of the five positions, then the maximum unfiltered sets that could 

                            be made would be 3X3X3X3X3 or 243 sets.  When using Vtracs in the same way then a

                            maximun of 32 sets would result.  You must be thinking that, Why would one want to even

                            consider using Wtracs when Vtracs only produce 13% of the 243 of a Wtrac.   Consider

                            this,  you must select 1 of 5 for each of the 5 positions.  5x5x5x5x5=3125 possible, so the

                            chance of matching all 5 vtracs for any one play is 1 / 3125 = .00032.  With a Wtrac, at

                            first glance you have to select one of ten for each of the 5 positions which would be

                            10x10x10x10x10 or 100000 that would give you a 1/100000 or .00001 chance, but look

                            again.  Lets say that the second digit in the first position is "1"  with a Vtrac if you miss

                            your selection there is no chance of hitting the diigit, however with a Wtrac you have 3

                            Wtracs that all contain the digit "1" within them.  3/10 = .33  to a  Vtracs 1/5 =.20.  So

                            you could have selected Wtracs 1, 2, or 10 and still hit a "1" for position #1 second digit.

                            A 33% vs 20% even though there are more to choose from.  A single run with 243 total

                            unfiltered sets is a very good starting point in my opinon,  I have found that with the right

                            blend of filters a one can get a reduction of 50 to 1 and still have a very high hit rate. 

                            If one uses TD and ID first than even less or a reduction is needed.  Just something to 

                            think about.

                            RL

                            winsum

                            Here is a little more of the benifits of this.  As I said in my other post that my software is nothing

                            more than a numerical set generator with the ID as the heart.  You select a ID value and then

                            as many digits that you want to use from as few as 2 up to all 10 and then ID part of the software

                            reduces the sets by allowing only sets with the ID value selected.  On the pen and paper method

                            I pointed out that they could select 2 or 3 digits for each numbers second position and then switch

                            them around to make the numbers forming the set.  This is just another way of saying the same thing

                            but for the software person.  Here is a better example of how this works.

                             

                            Wtracs is nothing more then grouping digits for a position.  I will use the ones from above for

                            this example. SUN  06/27/10   03 08 26 30 37 Wtrac = 27516.  Because each wtrac has 3 digits

                            I always select the one that hit the first occurence for that digit.

                            example

                            wtrac #1 = 0-1-2   

                            wtrac #2 = 1-2-3 

                            wtrac #3 =  2-3-4 

                            wtrac #4 =  3-4-5

                            The digit "3" is in 3 of these but I will select wtrac #2 when I convert the set to a Wtrac because it

                            is the first wtrac with digit "3",  do the same for the other 4.  Always use the lowest possible wtrac

                            that contains the digit that hit when converting.  If you viewed the video I had posted you could

                            see that I could select up to 5 digits for each second digit.  You can also see that the same can be

                            done for the first digit. This was shown just to help people understand.   

                             

                            Below is a list of all the numbers that can be made from 27516 regardless of the first digits and

                            without setting even the ID for a 5-39.

                            18 sets total.  Other Wtracs will have more or maybe less depending on which is used.

                            03 08 16 20 27   ID = 7     0-1-2-3-6-7-8    2 of 5
                            03 08 16 20 37   ID = 7     0-1-2-3-6-7-8    3 of 5
                            03 08 16 21 27   ID = 6     1-2-3-6-7-8       2 of 5
                            03 08 16 21 37   ID = 6     1-2-3-5-7-8       3 of 5
                            03 08 16 22 27   ID = 6     1-2-3-6-7-8       2 of 5
                            03 08 16 22 37   ID = 6     1-2-3-6-7-8       3 of 5
                            03 08 16 30 37   ID = 6     0-1-3-6-7-8       4 of 5
                            03 08 16 31 37   ID = 5     1-3-6-7-8           3 of 5
                            03 08 16 32 37   ID = 6     1-2-3-6-7-8        3 of 5
                            03 08 26 30 37   ID = 6     0-2-3-6-7-8        5 of 5 jackpot
                            03 08 26 31 37   ID = 6     1-2-3-6-7-8        4 of 5
                            03 08 26 32 37   ID = 5     2-3-6-7-8           4 of 5
                            03 18 26 30 37   ID = 6     0-2-3-6-7-8        4 of 5
                            03 18 26 31 37   ID = 6     1-2-3-6-7-8        3 of 5
                            03 18 26 32 37   ID = 6     1-2-3-6-7-8        3 of 5
                            13 18 26 30 37   ID = 7     0-1-2-3-6-7-8     3 of 5
                            13 18 26 31 37   ID = 6     1-2-3-6-7-8         2 of 5
                            13 18 26 32 37   ID = 6     1-2-3-6-7-8         2 of 5

                            I think that most people get a little frustrated doing this by hand, but It can be done.

                            The first digits are the easy ones and not just because they can only be 1-2-3 in a 5-39.

                            Consider this,  for the above list,  "NO first digits were even selected, that's right none."

                            I don't even consider the first digits.  The only time I select one is when I get too many 

                            sets to play, and then only if my other filters won't reduce enough without it.

                            I think in trying to help the pen and paper users I may have done the opposite.  I am

                            hoping to give you enough information that you can then build this into your excel for

                            everyone.

                            The vtracs that you have been using each contain 2 digits. Even with that you still have

                            to select 1 for each of the five second digits.  As pointed out above you will have only a

                            20% chance of selecting the correct one for each one of the five positions.  Sometimes

                            less is better and sometimes it is not.   I would have bet when I first posted this system

                            that someone would have hit a jackpot by this time.   I don't know much of the lingo that

                            is used by most of the people here and this may be the biggest problem.  I also have a

                            very hard time putting this in a way that can be understood by everyone. 

                            A, 1 in 3.3 chance is much beter then a 1 in 5 and any odds that can be shifted to ones favor

                            is a good step.  Some wtracs could produce up to 243 or maybe more but most I have tested

                            return less then 100 unfiltered sets.  Ask any questions you may have and I hope this is

                            clear and easy to understand.  My mind works much faster than I can type so I  may have

                            skiped over something.  Thank you for all the work that you have done so far.  I will post

                            more on this later.

                            RL

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                              Here is a little more of the benifits of this.  As I said in my other post that my software is nothing

                              more than a numerical set generator with the ID as the heart.  You select a ID value and then

                              as many digits that you want to use from as few as 2 up to all 10 and then ID part of the software

                              reduces the sets by allowing only sets with the ID value selected.  On the pen and paper method

                              I pointed out that they could select 2 or 3 digits for each numbers second position and then switch

                              them around to make the numbers forming the set.  This is just another way of saying the same thing

                              but for the software person.  Here is a better example of how this works.

                               

                              Wtracs is nothing more then grouping digits for a position.  I will use the ones from above for

                              this example. SUN  06/27/10   03 08 26 30 37 Wtrac = 27516.  Because each wtrac has 3 digits

                              I always select the one that hit the first occurence for that digit.

                              example

                              wtrac #1 = 0-1-2   

                              wtrac #2 = 1-2-3 

                              wtrac #3 =  2-3-4 

                              wtrac #4 =  3-4-5

                              The digit "3" is in 3 of these but I will select wtrac #2 when I convert the set to a Wtrac because it

                              is the first wtrac with digit "3",  do the same for the other 4.  Always use the lowest possible wtrac

                              that contains the digit that hit when converting.  If you viewed the video I had posted you could

                              see that I could select up to 5 digits for each second digit.  You can also see that the same can be

                              done for the first digit. This was shown just to help people understand.   

                               

                              Below is a list of all the numbers that can be made from 27516 regardless of the first digits and

                              without setting even the ID for a 5-39.

                              18 sets total.  Other Wtracs will have more or maybe less depending on which is used.

                              03 08 16 20 27   ID = 7     0-1-2-3-6-7-8    2 of 5
                              03 08 16 20 37   ID = 7     0-1-2-3-6-7-8    3 of 5
                              03 08 16 21 27   ID = 6     1-2-3-6-7-8       2 of 5
                              03 08 16 21 37   ID = 6     1-2-3-5-7-8       3 of 5
                              03 08 16 22 27   ID = 6     1-2-3-6-7-8       2 of 5
                              03 08 16 22 37   ID = 6     1-2-3-6-7-8       3 of 5
                              03 08 16 30 37   ID = 6     0-1-3-6-7-8       4 of 5
                              03 08 16 31 37   ID = 5     1-3-6-7-8           3 of 5
                              03 08 16 32 37   ID = 6     1-2-3-6-7-8        3 of 5
                              03 08 26 30 37   ID = 6     0-2-3-6-7-8        5 of 5 jackpot
                              03 08 26 31 37   ID = 6     1-2-3-6-7-8        4 of 5
                              03 08 26 32 37   ID = 5     2-3-6-7-8           4 of 5
                              03 18 26 30 37   ID = 6     0-2-3-6-7-8        4 of 5
                              03 18 26 31 37   ID = 6     1-2-3-6-7-8        3 of 5
                              03 18 26 32 37   ID = 6     1-2-3-6-7-8        3 of 5
                              13 18 26 30 37   ID = 7     0-1-2-3-6-7-8     3 of 5
                              13 18 26 31 37   ID = 6     1-2-3-6-7-8         2 of 5
                              13 18 26 32 37   ID = 6     1-2-3-6-7-8         2 of 5

                              I think that most people get a little frustrated doing this by hand, but It can be done.

                              The first digits are the easy ones and not just because they can only be 1-2-3 in a 5-39.

                              Consider this,  for the above list,  "NO first digits were even selected, that's right none."

                              I don't even consider the first digits.  The only time I select one is when I get too many 

                              sets to play, and then only if my other filters won't reduce enough without it.

                              I think in trying to help the pen and paper users I may have done the opposite.  I am

                              hoping to give you enough information that you can then build this into your excel for

                              everyone.

                              The vtracs that you have been using each contain 2 digits. Even with that you still have

                              to select 1 for each of the five second digits.  As pointed out above you will have only a

                              20% chance of selecting the correct one for each one of the five positions.  Sometimes

                              less is better and sometimes it is not.   I would have bet when I first posted this system

                              that someone would have hit a jackpot by this time.   I don't know much of the lingo that

                              is used by most of the people here and this may be the biggest problem.  I also have a

                              very hard time putting this in a way that can be understood by everyone. 

                              A, 1 in 3.3 chance is much beter then a 1 in 5 and any odds that can be shifted to ones favor

                              is a good step.  Some wtracs could produce up to 243 or maybe more but most I have tested

                              return less then 100 unfiltered sets.  Ask any questions you may have and I hope this is

                              clear and easy to understand.  My mind works much faster than I can type so I  may have

                              skiped over something.  Thank you for all the work that you have done so far.  I will post

                              more on this later.

                              RL

                              Bootleg<< is setting in the corner waiting on the software version that dumb people like me can put in our numbers and play around with lol. I know rocket scientist like RL- and Winsum will get this figured out 1 day and if I were any smarter I sure as hell would help em but until then here I sit in the corner bidding my time LOL! Keep up the good work RL we will get em!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!Hyper

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