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# PI in the Pick 3? What are we talking about exactly? A few ideas...

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Blundering Time Traveler

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also just noticed the 953 in 8539

Only counts if you were intentinally looking for the Pick 3 number from the Pick 4 workout...

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hey Kola, k this is my pick 3 workout, first one is the original way, so we had 053 day and 935 night, decimal I get is 87.720 so

198
309
420
531
642
753
864
975
1086

next is rings of pi, most recent is 935, then 428, then 495, I believe I needed to add 333 to both to get 761 and 828, decimal I get is

89.240

so

200
311
422
533
644
755
866
977
1088

Both are correct.  Just the numbers after decimal are off, but the that depends on how many numbers you using beyond the decimal in your PI inputs. It can make a difference.

The midday number for you state today was 297.

If you look at list there was a box hit. Number 309.720

One of the things left to do is to figure out why you would've chosen this number with a along with a couple of others to focus on.

Also, If you had used 2 consecutive midday drawings to get today's midday, you would have hit it there too .

Last midday draw - 053

2nd to last midday draw - 973

973 - 666 = 307

053 + 307 = 360

360 / 2 = 180

180 / Pi = 57.295

057

168

279

390

501

612

723

834

945

Of course you can work with draws anyway you see fit. If you want a small pointer...

Use...:

1. Midday to midday for midday results

2. Evening to evening for evening results.

3. Midday to evening for the next midday results,

4. Evening to midday for the next evening's results

And you can use as many draws as you want from 2 to 9. Absolute max, 10

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 Posted: February 4, 2012, 9:32 pm - IP Logged

Daily 4-first is original method..2nd to last 1776, and last is 4760, bring 1776 to tier 2 so add 3333, decimal left with is 785.35 so

1896
3007
4118
5229
6340
7451
8562
9673
10784

next one-rings of pi

most recent 4760, then 5906, then 8423, I subtracted 3333 to bring to tier to, gives 5090, decimal left with 835.882, so

1946
3057
4168
5279
6390
7501
8612
9723
10834

are these right, thanks for insight and to the new person, its kind of hard to understand at first but Kola is real good at showing where the mistakes are and why...

Both are perfect lotsofwins...

For your first example: 3086 came up for today's midday draw.

I respect that you just work with the list 9 numbers, and don't even bother with mirrors in this system, even though with the Pick 4,  mirrors are a gift. Yet and still the only thing I would implore to make second-nature, is to appreciate and apply the idea that a "0" is also a "9". Its not an arbitrary idea...

For your first example above, 3086 came in for today's midday draw. If we assume that a 0 is also a 9, then you would have hit the number.. Look at 1896.35  = 1806.35 ...Also, the digits are found in a consecutive fashion, with no gaps in between, so its a viable hit.

Thanks for the kind comments lotsofwins...

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Can't wait till someone makes a program.  I guess I'm getting lazy!

Nah...You don't have a lazy mind at all...

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 Posted: February 4, 2012, 9:43 pm - IP Logged

system coming through again--279 mid, in the d4 ring of pi, if I did it right:-)

Pick 4 doesn't count unless you were intentionally using Pick 4 to find Pick 3 numbers. It can be done though, if that's your natural inclination to do so. If that's the way your mind works and you see connections you can't quite describe or make out yet, by all means explore using Pick 4 for Pick 3 and vice-versa. While you do that though, still keep focusing on building and using the Pick 3 for Pick 3 muscle as well...

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I didn't do the round up. Missed it!

There'll be plenty more. Until then we keep practicing, refining, and then pushing forward...

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hey kola, thank for the guidance for this week trying the rings of pi since Texas at least for now seems to favor them...soo 342,935,428, have to put 935 to tier 2 935-333, hmmmm thats interesting when plugging them in and dividing by 3, decimal 457.33333333333333333, hahaha, looking for a triple to play, favoring 333 before the workout..:-) okay divide by 6.28318, left with

72.786

183
294-also 204
405
516
627
738
849-also 840
960-also 460
1071

is this right?? hmm this week just playing here, will try to narrow down picks maybe next week..

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and p4-rings of pi,0256,4760,5906, so 4760-3333, and 5906-3333

decimal-451.576

1562
2673
3784
4895-also 4805
6006
7117
8228
9339-also 0330
10450

also thanks for other ways to look at it, but still trying to grasp rings of pi and original method, maybe in  bit...

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you said mirrors are helpful in D4 so

906.021 or 006.021

2017
3128
4239-or 4230
5350
6461
7572
8683
9794-or 0704
10905

Blundering Time Traveler

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hey kola, thank for the guidance for this week trying the rings of pi since Texas at least for now seems to favor them...soo 342,935,428, have to put 935 to tier 2 935-333, hmmmm thats interesting when plugging them in and dividing by 3, decimal 457.33333333333333333, hahaha, looking for a triple to play, favoring 333 before the workout..:-) okay divide by 6.28318, left with

72.786

183
294-also 204
405
516
627
738
849-also 840
960-also 460
1071

is this right?? hmm this week just playing here, will try to narrow down picks maybe next week..

Hello lotsofwins.

Yes, 72.7869 is correct.

The list of 9 is also correct. You can also:

072 - also 972

183

294 - also 204

405 - also 495

516 - also 519

627 - also 927

738

849 - also 840, 846

960 - also 060, 660

1071

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 Posted: February 6, 2012, 10:53 am - IP Logged

and p4-rings of pi,0256,4760,5906, so 4760-3333, and 5906-3333

decimal-451.576

1562
2673
3784
4895-also 4805
6006
7117
8228
9339-also 0330
10450

also thanks for other ways to look at it, but still trying to grasp rings of pi and original method, maybe in  bit...

Its correct lotsofwins. Yes you can just stick with original method.  Although, these other little ways of looking at it, are not changes to the system. I use it and would add it to any system or method, because they are not arbitrary. Its how the numbers communicate. You may want to keep them in the back of your mind, no matter what system your playing with.

The 6 is an upside 9

9 is 0. Crude proof :

0+ 5 = 5

9 + 5 = 14 = 1 + 4 = 5

0451 - also 9451

1562 - also 1592

3784

4895  -also 4805

6006 - also 6996, 6999, 9999, 9009

7117

8228

9339 - also 6339, 6336

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 Posted: February 6, 2012, 11:13 am - IP Logged

you said mirrors are helpful in D4 so

906.021 or 006.021

2017
3128
4239-or 4230
5350
6461
7572
8683
9794-or 0704
10905

Your changes above are not called mirrors. The mirrors are:

0 =5

1 = 6

2 = 7

3 = 8

4 = 9

Also, if you go back to my earlier post on Page 2 where I talked about the subdivision division mirrors, you will understand what I was talking about about how to mirror the numbers within the Rings of Pi system. You don't have to mirror the list of 9. You can  just mirror the subdivisions like 1111, 6666, 1116, 1166, and etc..., and they will handle mirroring your list of 9, along with adding other benefits...

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Kola, what do you think of this we got 7026 day..feb 3rd post

and pick 4-4076

0762.67 ( keep in .67 decimal all the way down list) -what the heck??

1873

2984

4095.67-here 4076

5206

6317

7428

8539

9650

10761

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For today.

Last draw 337 ,Friday's 651

78.6225

111+ 78.6225= 189.6225

300

411

522

633

744

855

966

1077

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Hello Kola,

Great post. I don't want to take away from your credit, but I think I've simplified the whole process into a few steps. This is what I did.

Step 1) Place into tier :  n < 333, 333 < n > 666, 666 < n > 999

Step 2) After finding which tier, take the highest number in the tier and subtract the number from it which will give you your first difference.

Step 3) Take your first difference and subtract it from the other highest numbers of the other tiers. You will now have two more differences.

Step 4) Take your number and add and subtract 27.78 to it.

Step 5) Take the differences from Step 3 and add and subtract 27.78 from them.

Step 6) Add the number to the results from Step 5.

Step 7) Add and subtract 333 and 666 from Steps 4, 5 and 6.

Steps 4, 5, 6, and 7 will give possible answers.

An example using 606 leading to 630

Step 1) Tier 2 since 333 < 606 > 666

Step 2) 666 - 606 = 60

Step 3) 333 - 60 = 273 ; 999 - 60 = 939

Step 4) 606 +/- 27.78 = 633.78,578.22 <--- Close but no cigar.

Step 5) 273 +/- 27.78 = 300.78,245.22 ; 939 +/- 27.78 = 966.78,911.22

Step 6) 300.78,245.22 + 606 = 906.78,851.22 ; 966.78,911.22 + 606 = 1572.78,1517.22

Step 7) 633.78,578.22 +/- 333 = 966.78,300.78;911.22,245.22

906.78,851.22 +/- 333 = 1239.78,573.78;1184.22,518.22

1572.78,1517.22 +/- 333 = 1905.78,1239.78;1850.22,1184.22

633.78,578.22 +/- 666 = 1299.78,-32.22;1244.22,-87.78

906.78,851.22 +/- 666 = 1572.78,240.78;1517.22,185.22

1572.78,1517.22 +/- 666 = 2238.78,906.78;2183.22,851.22

So the final answers would be 633/634, 245, 966/967, 911, 906/907, 851, 573/574, 518, 240/241, 185, 300/301

As you can see there are a lot of repeats with step 4 giving the closest answer of 633/634 to the desired 630. I take these repeats as noise because the 333 and 666 cycle the numbers through the circles. Adding 333 pushes it up or down 1 circle, and 666 up or down two circles.

I've checked this through a program and the probability for a straight is about .0011, for the pairs its about .011, but the strange thing is that the box instead of being .0067 is reading about .01. That is almost a 50% increase in getting a box hit using this method.

If anyone wants to know where I got the 27.78, it's supposed to be 250/9 which is half the arc length of a cricle with a diameter with 1000/3 circumference and a angle of pi/3 radians. You could use 1000/3 instead of 333, 2000/3 instead of 666, and 1000 instead of 999 along with 250/9 instead of 27.78. There is not much a statistical difference but there is some improvement.

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