United States Member #28945 December 25, 2005 1528 Posts Offline

Posted: February 4, 2012, 9:14 pm - IP Logged

Quote: Originally posted by lotsofwins on February 4, 2012

hey Kola, k this is my pick 3 workout, first one is the original way, so we had 053 day and 935 night, decimal I get is 87.720 so

198 309 420 531 642 753 864 975 1086

next is rings of pi, most recent is 935, then 428, then 495, I believe I needed to add 333 to both to get 761 and 828, decimal I get is

89.240

so

200 311 422 533 644 755 866 977 1088

Both are correct. Just the numbers after decimal are off, but the that depends on how many numbers you using beyond the decimal in your PI inputs. It can make a difference.

The midday number for you state today was 297.

If you look at list there was a box hit. Number 309.720

One of the things left to do is to figure out why you would've chosen this number with a along with a couple of others to focus on.

Also, If you had used 2 consecutive midday drawings to get today's midday, you would have hit it there too .

Last midday draw - 053

2nd to last midday draw - 973

973 - 666 = 307

053 + 307 = 360

360 / 2 = 180

180 / Pi = 57.295

057

168

279

390

501

612

723

834

945

Of course you can work with draws anyway you see fit. If you want a small pointer...

Use...:

1. Midday to midday for midday results

2. Evening to evening for evening results.

3. Midday to evening for the next midday results,

4. Evening to midday for the next evening's results

And you can use as many draws as you want from 2 to 9. Absolute max, 10

United States Member #28945 December 25, 2005 1528 Posts Offline

Posted: February 4, 2012, 9:32 pm - IP Logged

Quote: Originally posted by lotsofwins on February 4, 2012

Daily 4-first is original method..2nd to last 1776, and last is 4760, bring 1776 to tier 2 so add 3333, decimal left with is 785.35 so

1896 3007 4118 5229 6340 7451 8562 9673 10784

next one-rings of pi

most recent 4760, then 5906, then 8423, I subtracted 3333 to bring to tier to, gives 5090, decimal left with 835.882, so

1946 3057 4168 5279 6390 7501 8612 9723 10834

are these right, thanks for insight and to the new person, its kind of hard to understand at first but Kola is real good at showing where the mistakes are and why...

Both are perfect lotsofwins...

For your first example: 3086 came up for today's midday draw.

I respect that you just work with the list 9 numbers, and don't even bother with mirrors in this system, even though with the Pick 4, mirrors are a gift. Yet and still the only thing I would implore to make second-nature, is to appreciate and apply the idea that a "0" is also a "9". Its not an arbitrary idea...

For your first example above, 3086 came in for today's midday draw. If we assume that a 0 is also a 9, then you would have hit the number.. Look at 1896.35 = 1806.35 ...Also, the digits are found in a consecutive fashion, with no gaps in between, so its a viable hit.

United States Member #28945 December 25, 2005 1528 Posts Offline

Posted: February 4, 2012, 9:43 pm - IP Logged

Quote: Originally posted by lotsofwins on February 4, 2012

system coming through again--279 mid, in the d4 ring of pi, if I did it right:-)

Pick 4 doesn't count unless you were intentionally using Pick 4 to find Pick 3 numbers. It can be done though, if that's your natural inclination to do so. If that's the way your mind works and you see connections you can't quite describe or make out yet, by all means explore using Pick 4 for Pick 3 and vice-versa. While you do that though, still keep focusing on building and using the Pick 3 for Pick 3 muscle as well...

Texas United States Member #114703 August 5, 2011 4623 Posts Offline

Posted: February 6, 2012, 2:30 am - IP Logged

hey kola, thank for the guidance for this week trying the rings of pi since Texas at least for now seems to favor them...soo 342,935,428, have to put 935 to tier 2 935-333, hmmmm thats interesting when plugging them in and dividing by 3, decimal 457.33333333333333333, hahaha, looking for a triple to play, favoring 333 before the workout..:-) okay divide by 6.28318, left with

United States Member #28945 December 25, 2005 1528 Posts Offline

Posted: February 6, 2012, 10:32 am - IP Logged

Quote: Originally posted by lotsofwins on February 6, 2012

hey kola, thank for the guidance for this week trying the rings of pi since Texas at least for now seems to favor them...soo 342,935,428, have to put 935 to tier 2 935-333, hmmmm thats interesting when plugging them in and dividing by 3, decimal 457.33333333333333333, hahaha, looking for a triple to play, favoring 333 before the workout..:-) okay divide by 6.28318, left with

also thanks for other ways to look at it, but still trying to grasp rings of pi and original method, maybe in bit...

Its correct lotsofwins. Yes you can just stick with original method. Although, these other little ways of looking at it, are not changes to the system. I use it and would add it to any system or method, because they are not arbitrary. Its how the numbers communicate. You may want to keep them in the back of your mind, no matter what system your playing with.

Your changes above are not called mirrors. The mirrors are:

0 =5

1 = 6

2 = 7

3 = 8

4 = 9

Also, if you go back to my earlier post on Page 2 where I talked about the subdivision division mirrors, you will understand what I was talking about about how to mirror the numbers within the Rings of Pi system. You don't have to mirror the list of 9. You can just mirror the subdivisions like 1111, 6666, 1116, 1166, and etc..., and they will handle mirroring your list of 9, along with adding other benefits...

So the final answers would be 633/634, 245, 966/967, 911, 906/907, 851, 573/574, 518, 240/241, 185, 300/301

As you can see there are a lot of repeats with step 4 giving the closest answer of 633/634 to the desired 630. I take these repeats as noise because the 333 and 666 cycle the numbers through the circles. Adding 333 pushes it up or down 1 circle, and 666 up or down two circles.

I've checked this through a program and the probability for a straight is about .0011, for the pairs its about .011, but the strange thing is that the box instead of being .0067 is reading about .01. That is almost a 50% increase in getting a box hit using this method.

If anyone wants to know where I got the 27.78, it's supposed to be 250/9 which is half the arc length of a cricle with a diameter with 1000/3 circumference and a angle of pi/3 radians. You could use 1000/3 instead of 333, 2000/3 instead of 666, and 1000 instead of 999 along with 250/9 instead of 27.78. There is not much a statistical difference but there is some improvement.