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PI in the Pick 3? What are we talking about exactly? A few ideas...

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Posted: January 30, 2012, 1:25 am - IP Logged

Thanks for your time and keep the sytems coming.  Hopefully someone will program this.  It already hit in NM and hopefully several more times.  Whatever it takes to produce a win is what counts!!

 

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Thanks lakerben,

I'm pleased its hitting. If you use all the "mirrors" of the sub-divisions, I'm sure you'll see more good things. More systems will be on the way, by and by...

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    Ahhh! Well let's see.....

    Here's how we can fix that.

    Synchronize whatever number(s) you want to put in....

    When it asks how many, say 1.

    Enter your synchronized number.......Viola!

    You should get the result you want.

    If you don't let me know

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      Hello Gary,

      No hard feelings at all...

      Thank you very much for the program and I appreciate the work you put into it...Forgive the question, but is your program meant to be a variation to the system I posted? If it is, that's cool, I welcome the ideas. How is it supposed to work? If its not, then it seems that the numbers it spits out are wrong, and you may have mis-understood my instructions about first synchronizing the draws and then dividing it by the appropriate PI.

      I'm going to start another thread in a day or two and post the system as clearly and simply as I can. In the meantime, I earlier posted a 5 step summary guide a couple of times in this thread. Just make sure that you qualify each step before you move on to the next...

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        Kola, last draw texas had was 311 and 516 both numbers are repeats, I understand I need to get the 311 to tier two, but do I add 333 or 666 to do so, if its 333, then when i get to adding 111, etc I get

        203
        314
        425
        536
        647
        758
        869
        980
        1091

        or when I add 666 +111 etc
        229
        340
        451
        562
        673
        784
        895
        1006
        1117

        thanks..also Gary thank you for posting your program but when I click on it it says ooops file doesn't exist, thanks..

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          Ahhh! Well let's see.....

          Here's how we can fix that.

          Synchronize whatever number(s) you want to put in....

          When it asks how many, say 1.

          Enter your synchronized number.......Viola!

          You should get the result you want.

          If you don't let me know

          Gary,

          After you synchronize numbers, you add them and then divide them by the numbers of draws your're using. This number becomes the seed number and is put into "X". When I put in the number for the "x" value, in your program, it does not allow for all the appropriate values for PI with regards to the specific mini-circumference you're using...

          For example, here are three "X" seed numbers to show you how they are treated slightly differently with respect to PI

          Numbers 223, 654, and 897 are each in different mini-circumferences.

          223 is in mini-circumference 1(runs from 000 to 333) and is divided by PI ,

          654 is in mini-circumference 2(runs from 333 to 666) and is divided by double PI(3.14 * 2),

          897 is in mini-circumference 3(runs from 666 to 999) and is divided by Triple PI(3.14 * 3).

          After you divide the number by the appropriate PI, then you can add 111, 222, 333, and etc...

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            Gary,

            After you synchronize numbers, you add them and then divide them by the numbers of draws your're using. This number becomes the seed number and is put into "X". When I put in the number for the "x" value, in your program, it does not allow for all the appropriate values for PI with regards to the specific mini-circumference you're using...

            For example, here are three "X" seed numbers to show you how they are treated slightly differently with respect to PI

            Numbers 223, 654, and 897 are each in different mini-circumferences.

            223 is in mini-circumference 1(runs from 000 to 333) and is divided by PI ,

            654 is in mini-circumference 2(runs from 333 to 666) and is divided by double PI(3.14 * 2),

            897 is in mini-circumference 3(runs from 666 to 999) and is divided by Triple PI(3.14 * 3).

            After you divide the number by the appropriate PI, then you can add 111, 222, 333, and etc...

            Doesn't matter......

            Do whatever you want to the number.

            If you put that single number it becomes the number that replaces X.

            That is all there is to it.

            The program uses bankers rounding.

            You align whatever the way you choose, enter that number and it becomes the X (Seed).

            Use your calculator and check it.

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              Posted: January 30, 2012, 2:56 am - IP Logged

              Kola, last draw texas had was 311 and 516 both numbers are repeats, I understand I need to get the 311 to tier two, but do I add 333 or 666 to do so, if its 333, then when i get to adding 111, etc I get

              203
              314
              425
              536
              647
              758
              869
              980
              1091

              or when I add 666 +111 etc
              229
              340
              451
              562
              673
              784
              895
              1006
              1117

              thanks..also Gary thank you for posting your program but when I click on it it says ooops file doesn't exist, thanks..

              Hello lotsofwins,

              What you did is correct.

              Remember:

              tier 1 - runs from 000 to 333. Example: 000,001,002,003,004 all the way to 333

              tier 2 - runs from 333 to 666

              tier 3 - numbers runs from 666 to 999.

               

              516, the last draw, is just as you said...in tier 2.  And yes you need to get 311 into tier 2 as well.  Please look at my tier guide above, if you added 666 to to 311 it would have taken you to tier 3, because 666 + 311 = 977.

              We want 311 + 333 = 644. And 644 is a tier 2 number.

              As you did, and didn't show,  but for people trying to follow along...

              644 + 516 = 1160

              1160/2 = 580

              580/6.283 = 92.312

              Your adding of 111, 222, 333, and etc...to 92.312 to get 203, 314, 425 and etc... is correct.

              Great lotsofwins, and by the way please explore the system with the "sub-divisions' mirrors " as well.  If you find it may be tedious to focus on all the mirrors, it may be helpful to just focus on the mirror whose tier you worked on. For example you worked on tier 2 which runs from 333 to 666. So you would focus on these mirrors:

              338.388

              449,499

              550,500

              661, 611

              So you would have ended up with 17 numbers to work with from the 9 original numbers you posted on top, plus 8 numbers derived from the mirror of the tier you worked on.

              Good luck...

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                Not to steal this thread, but I played around with QB64 some today and came up with O'Brien's Pi. Nothing fancy......no frills....

                Here's the link:

                http://www.box.com/s/a4b4glcbr8ehtu9d0ycc

                Once you unzip it, find the folder you unzipped it too. I should look like this......

                 

                Click OBRIENPI and it should run.

                I tried to download but the link says its missing. This  looks like a good program.

                 

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                  Doesn't matter......

                  Do whatever you want to the number.

                  If you put that single number it becomes the number that replaces X.

                  That is all there is to it.

                  The program uses bankers rounding.

                  You align whatever the way you choose, enter that number and it becomes the X (Seed).

                  Use your calculator and check it.

                  I understand what you're saying. You're misunderstanding me. When the link was working, I downloaded the program, and put in the number for the "X "value. Your program is good, and it only works properly if you're only dividing "X" by PI. Thats cool if the number is a tier 1 number. Tier 1 numbers run from 000 to 333. But if the "X" number is a tier 2 number that runs from 333 to 666, you'll have to divide it by the double-PI value of  6.28. If the "X" number is a tier 3 number that runs from 666 to 999, you'll have to divide it  by the triple-PI value of 9.24. The program doesn't account for using the appropriate PI with tiers 2 and 3 numbers

                  When you get the result after dividing "X" by the appropriate PI value, you can then of course, successively add the result to 111,222,333...to 999, and you'll have 9 core numbers.

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                    hey there, clarification please?

                    playing with numbers from Texas, on the 25th we had 917 and 471, I took 917 and subtracted 333, which gave me 584

                    I added 584+471=1055

                    1055/2=527.5

                    527.5/6.28318=83.954

                    then +111, etc

                    194
                    416
                    749
                    1193-311 fell day on the 26th
                    1748
                    2414
                    3191
                    4079
                    5078-078-fell night on the 26th

                    still not sure if I'm doing this right but great great system thank you for posting, would you mind terribly posting an example on how to utilize this system with Pick 4, texas had 4414-day, and 2200-night..thanks

                    also for 26th-we had 311 and 078

                    I took 311+078=389
                    389 divided by 2=194.5

                    194.5 plus 111 etc

                    172
                    394
                    727
                    1171
                    1726
                    2392
                    3169-693 fell day on the 27th
                    4057
                    5056

                    so using same for latest draw, we had 693, 827

                    so 1520/2=760

                    760/9.42477 is 80.639 +111 etc

                    191
                    413
                    746
                    1190
                    1745
                    2411
                    3188
                    4076
                    5075

                    is my math right, and my apologies if not, my math skill isn't great:-)

                    Hello lotsofwins,

                    I told you I would get back to some of the other questions you had. I already addressed the  first 2 examples above in previous pots. You can probably do it properly, but just in case...

                    As for the last problem using your draws of 693, and 827, the math is correct... but the adding of the 111  is not correct. When I mentioned to add 111, 222, 333 and etc...You're supposed to separately add each of those numbers to 80.639. Or you just do a regular math wrapdown of 080. As you know, you end up with the same numbers...

                    Example:

                    80.639 + 111 = 191

                    80.639 + 222 = 302

                    80.639 + 333 = 413

                    and etc...

                     

                    Or,

                    the regular math wrapdown

                    080

                    191

                    302

                    413

                    524

                    635

                    746

                    857

                    968

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                      Tell me if I'm right with this. 

                      The last NM pick 3 was 768. And the previous draw was 294.

                      294+666=960, 960/2=480/3pi=50.92958

                      111+50.92958=161.929..

                      222>>272.9

                      333>>383.929

                      444>>494.929

                      555>>605.92

                      666>>716.929

                      777>>827.929

                      888>>938.9

                      999>>1049.929

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                        Tell me if I'm right with this. 

                        The last NM pick 3 was 768. And the previous draw was 294.

                        294+666=960, 960/2=480/3pi=50.92958

                        111+50.92958=161.929..

                        222>>272.9

                        333>>383.929

                        444>>494.929

                        555>>605.92

                        666>>716.929

                        777>>827.929

                        888>>938.9

                        999>>1049.929

                        Hello lakerben,

                        Its incorrect.

                        Last draw was 768

                        2nd to last was 294.

                        294 + 666 = 960. Yes, but then you add:

                        960 + 768 = 1728.

                        1728/2 = 864

                        864/3PI = 91.673

                        091

                        202

                        313

                        424

                        535

                        646

                        757

                        868

                        979

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                          Hello lakerben,

                          Its incorrect.

                          Last draw was 768

                          2nd to last was 294.

                          294 + 666 = 960. Yes, but then you add:

                          960 + 768 = 1728.

                          1728/2 = 864

                          864/3PI = 91.673

                          091

                          202

                          313

                          424

                          535

                          646

                          757

                          868

                          979

                          Thanks!  This is why a program would be nice so I wouldn't have to worry about the order of operation.

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                            Hello lotsofwins,

                            What you did is correct.

                            Remember:

                            tier 1 - runs from 000 to 333. Example: 000,001,002,003,004 all the way to 333

                            tier 2 - runs from 333 to 666

                            tier 3 - numbers runs from 666 to 999.

                             

                            516, the last draw, is just as you said...in tier 2.  And yes you need to get 311 into tier 2 as well.  Please look at my tier guide above, if you added 666 to to 311 it would have taken you to tier 3, because 666 + 311 = 977.

                            We want 311 + 333 = 644. And 644 is a tier 2 number.

                            As you did, and didn't show,  but for people trying to follow along...

                            644 + 516 = 1160

                            1160/2 = 580

                            580/6.283 = 92.312

                            Your adding of 111, 222, 333, and etc...to 92.312 to get 203, 314, 425 and etc... is correct.

                            Great lotsofwins, and by the way please explore the system with the "sub-divisions' mirrors " as well.  If you find it may be tedious to focus on all the mirrors, it may be helpful to just focus on the mirror whose tier you worked on. For example you worked on tier 2 which runs from 333 to 666. So you would focus on these mirrors:

                            338.388

                            449,499

                            550,500

                            661, 611

                            So you would have ended up with 17 numbers to work with from the 9 original numbers you posted on top, plus 8 numbers derived from the mirror of the tier you worked on.

                            Good luck...

                            Correction, if you dealt with the mirrors as well, especially of the tier you worked upon, you would end up with the 33 numbers, not 17. It would be the original core 9 numbers, plus 24 numbers derived from the mirrors of that tier because you would have to account for each digit-position  of these mirrors:

                            338, 383, 833, 883, 838, 388

                            449, 494, 944, 499. 949, 994

                            550, 505, 055, 500, 050, 005

                            661, 166, 661, 116, 161, 611

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                              Sounds good! you got me rolling with the pi idea!

                               

                              Going back and looking at the drawn number and mirrors I 'm still experimenting.  Using pi I came up with this.

                              Wednesday's draw was 584 and the mirror is 039 so,  I strung them together and / pi.

                              584039/pi=185905.3876.  Saturday night draw in NM was 768! 


                              More to come!

                               

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