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PI in the Pick 3? What are we talking about exactly? A few ideas...

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Kola Pi

North Carolina using the last 2 morning draws 7560 and 5151.

+0000851.2
+11111962.2
+22223073.2
+33334184.2
+44445295.2
+55556406.2
+66667517.2
+77778628.2
+88889739.2
+999910850.2
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    Kola Pi for Virginia using the last 2 morning draws.

    +0000806.3
    +11111917.3
    +22223028.3
    +33334139.3
    +44445250.3
    +55556361.3
    +66667472.3
    +77778583.3
    +88889694.3
    +999910805.3
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      Kola Pi for California using the last 2 draws.

      +0000860.6
      +11111971.6
      +22223082.6
      +33334193.6
      +44445304.6
      +55556415.6
      +66667526.6
      +77778637.6
      +88889748.6
      +999910859.6
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        Posted: May 11, 2012, 11:43 pm - IP Logged

        No problem.

        A great program and easy to use.  Thanks again.

         

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          Here's a link to a version of the spreadsheet modified for use with Pick 4 games: https://www.box.com/s/c27e3855821bd1528478

          This current version does not include all of the mirror combinations, but I may add them later.

          Enjoy!

           

          Please let me know of any errors in the calculations.

          Hello Texas Madman,

          Thank you very much for the time and effort you put into this. If you do get a chance to add in those other mirrors, I think people will be pleasantly surprised as to how it performs...Thanks again...

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            Hello Texas Madman,

            Thank you very much for the time and effort you put into this. If you do get a chance to add in those other mirrors, I think people will be pleasantly surprised as to how it performs...Thanks again...

            Okay, the spreadsheet now shows all the mirror combos as well. As always, let me know of any issues.

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              Okay, the spreadsheet now shows all the mirror combos as well. As always, let me know of any issues.

              Thanks!



              Hurray!

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                Florida p4 using the last 2 draws of the morning: 2879,1756.

                +0000737.7742.7787.7792.71237.71242.71287.71292.75737.75742.75787.75792.76237.76242.76287.7
                +11111848.71853.71898.71903.72348.72353.72398.72403.76848.76853.76898.76903.77348.77353.77398.7
                +22222959.72964.73009.73014.73459.73464.73509.73514.77959.77964.78009.78014.78459.78464.78509.7
                +33334070.74075.74120.74125.74570.74575.74620.74625.79070.79075.79120.79125.79570.79575.79620.7
                +44445181.75186.75231.75236.75681.75686.75731.75736.710181.710186.710231.710236.710681.710686.710731.7
                +55556292.76297.76342.76347.76792.76797.76842.76847.711292.711297.711342.711347.711792.711797.711842.7
                +66667403.77408.77453.77458.77903.77908.77953.77958.712403.712408.712453.712458.712903.712908.712953.7
                +77778514.78519.78564.78569.79014.79019.79064.79069.713514.713519.713564.713569.714014.714019.714064.7
                +88889625.79630.79675.79680.710125.710130.710175.710180.714625.714630.714675.714680.715125.715130.715175.7
                +999910736.710741.710786.710791.711236.711241.711286.711291.715736.715741.715786.715791.716236.716241.716286.7
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                  Rings of PI

                  Texas > using last night 0823 and Fridays miday 3862.

                  +0000216.6221.6266.6271.6716.6721.6766.6771.65216.65221.65266.65271.65716.65721.65766.6
                  +11111327.61332.61377.61382.61827.61832.61877.61882.66327.66332.66377.66382.66827.66832.66877.6
                  +22222438.62443.62488.62493.62938.62943.62988.62993.67438.67443.67488.67493.67938.67943.67988.6
                  +33333549.63554.63599.63604.64049.64054.64099.64104.68549.68554.68599.68604.69049.69054.69099.6
                  +44444660.64665.64710.64715.65160.65165.65210.65215.69660.69665.69710.69715.610160.610165.610210.6
                  +55555771.65776.65821.65826.66271.66276.66321.66326.610771.610776.610821.610826.611271.611276.611321.6
                  +66666882.66887.66932.66937.67382.67387.67432.67437.611882.611887.611932.611937.612382.612387.612432.6
                  +77777993.67998.68043.68048.68493.68498.68543.68548.612993.612998.613043.613048.613493.613498.613543.6
                  +88889104.69109.69154.69159.69604.69609.69654.69659.614104.614109.614154.614159.614604.614609.614654.6
                  +999910215.610220.610265.610270.610715.610720.610765.610770.615215.615220.615265.615270.615715.615720.615765.6
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                    Okay, the spreadsheet now shows all the mirror combos as well. As always, let me know of any issues.

                    Wow. Again, its simple and elegant. Great stuff...Thanks a lot Texas Madman...

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                      Yep it is, you are right kola. And thanks Madman.

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                        Firstly,

                        The Rings of Pi is meant to work for the next draw hit, so if the numbers don't hit for the next draw please drop them.

                        Draw cases:

                        1. Using 2 consecutive midday draws, you are looking for the next midday draw.

                        2. Using 2 consecutive evening draws, you are looking for the next evening draw.

                        3. Using an evening to midday draw, you are looking for the next midday, or working from mid to evening to find next the next midday.

                        In all cases, usually the 'last draw' is the dominant draw. But only in draw case #3, may the second to last draw be used as the 'dominant draw'. While both ways are good, using the second to last draw as the dominant may work a tad better, because of the symmetry involved. But this only applies to draw case # 3.

                        Secondly,

                        There are many great strategies on the LP to narrow down picks. I'm sure you're familiar with them. Things like hot digits, cold digits, due sums, , and etc. While I encourage you to use any of those methods to reduce the Picks in the Rings of Pi program, the best thing I can suggest for you to explore is to study the  rundown. I like saying "wrapdown" better. You can even apply hot digits, cold digits, due sums, and 'all the rest' to the wrapdown. The wrapdown is seemingly simple, but it is the best tool - the best wheel, I've ever come across.

                        To me, wrapdowns are "accurate summaries" of the whole Pick 3 and Pick 4 games. If you add up all the 1000 straight numbers of the Pick 3 game, it equals 499500 (10,000 straight numbers of the Pick 4 equals 49995000). Furthermore, if you add all ten numbers in any Pick 3 wrapdown, it equals 4995. 4995 is a "summary" or snapshot of 499500.

                        In essence, the wrapdown is a literal snapshot of the Pick 3 game and on display is the inner mechanics of whats happening within the Pick 3 game in real-time or rather "frozen-time" (more about this on another thread)...You're going to use the Pick 3 game itself to predict itself...To me, its the simplest and most direct way. As you know, the traditional wrapdowns are done by adding 111 to the numbers, using lottery math, until the number wraps and wheels around to itself.

                        Ex:

                        409

                        510

                        621

                        732

                        843

                        954

                        065

                        176

                        287

                        398

                        ----------

                        = 4995

                         

                        So to narrow down picks for the "Rings", a very basic suggestion is to do a wrapdown of both draws. Do a wrapdown of the dominant draw, and of the 2nd to last draw after its converted to the correct tier.  Then study to see clues of each draw in the wrapdown of the other. You may see parts of the other number or even its mirrors in the wrapdown. Mark the draw and also mark the clues of the other draw. Start to observe where each number is in relationship to the other, and when you backtest, observe where the clues or footprints of the the winning draw was in relationship to the numbers you marked.

                        After you play with this for a while, in the way I suggested or in any myriad of ways that you can up with , you may begin to have firm ideas about which block of numbers to choose from in the Pi program. To recap: In the Pi Program, a block of numbers are really mirror number blocks and are grouped with their mirror constants. For example there are 2 mirror blocks below separately headed by 000 and 111.

                        +00041.7
                        +00546.7
                        +05091.7
                        +500541.7
                        +555596.7
                        +550591.7
                        +505546.7
                        +05596.7
                        +111152.7
                        +116157.7
                        +161202.7
                        +611652.7
                        +666707.7
                        +661702.7
                        +616657.7
                        +166207.7

                         I hope that the strength and elegant simplicity of the wrapdown helps you...

                        Happy Explorations !

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                          Florida p4 using the last 2 draws of the morning: 2879,1756.

                          +0000737.7742.7787.7792.71237.71242.71287.71292.75737.75742.75787.75792.76237.76242.76287.7
                          +11111848.71853.71898.71903.72348.72353.72398.72403.76848.76853.76898.76903.77348.77353.77398.7
                          +22222959.72964.73009.73014.73459.73464.73509.73514.77959.77964.78009.78014.78459.78464.78509.7
                          +33334070.74075.74120.74125.74570.74575.74620.74625.79070.79075.79120.79125.79570.79575.79620.7
                          +44445181.75186.75231.75236.75681.75686.75731.75736.710181.710186.710231.710236.710681.710686.710731.7
                          +55556292.76297.76342.76347.76792.76797.76842.76847.711292.711297.711342.711347.711792.711797.711842.7
                          +66667403.77408.77453.77458.77903.77908.77953.77958.712403.712408.712453.712458.712903.712908.712953.7
                          +77778514.78519.78564.78569.79014.79019.79064.79069.713514.713519.713564.713569.714014.714019.714064.7
                          +88889625.79630.79675.79680.710125.710130.710175.710180.714625.714630.714675.714680.715125.715130.715175.7
                          +999910736.710741.710786.710791.711236.711241.711286.711291.715736.715741.715786.715791.716236.716241.716286.7

                           I had overlooked checking these results on May 12

                          On the +3333 row, there was a box hit of 9120 !

                          Legend says that The Craggy One was once asked about the Lottery Circle and the aged Lottery LoreKeeper whispered in his gravelly eloquence,"It is known among our kind that 2 successive draws are in reality the 2 center-points of 2 intersecting circles that share a common radius - a Root Center. This Vesica Piscis is the creative womb for all numbers, the Still Point from which two draws will unite & a new one is born. This "perfect" space is a wormhole through Time(Change). Master its proportions & your numerical predictions will not falter". 

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                            Florida p4 using the last 2 draws of the morning: 2879,1756.

                            +0000737.7742.7787.7792.71237.71242.71287.71292.75737.75742.75787.75792.76237.76242.76287.7
                            +11111848.71853.71898.71903.72348.72353.72398.72403.76848.76853.76898.76903.77348.77353.77398.7
                            +22222959.72964.73009.73014.73459.73464.73509.73514.77959.77964.78009.78014.78459.78464.78509.7
                            +33334070.74075.74120.74125.74570.74575.74620.74625.79070.79075.79120.79125.79570.79575.79620.7
                            +44445181.75186.75231.75236.75681.75686.75731.75736.710181.710186.710231.710236.710681.710686.710731.7
                            +55556292.76297.76342.76347.76792.76797.76842.76847.711292.711297.711342.711347.711792.711797.711842.7
                            +66667403.77408.77453.77458.77903.77908.77953.77958.712403.712408.712453.712458.712903.712908.712953.7
                            +77778514.78519.78564.78569.79014.79019.79064.79069.713514.713519.713564.713569.714014.714019.714064.7
                            +88889625.79630.79675.79680.710125.710130.710175.710180.714625.714630.714675.714680.715125.715130.715175.7
                            +999910736.710741.710786.710791.711236.711241.711286.711291.715736.715741.715786.715791.716236.716241.716286.7

                            **IMPORTANT**

                            Please take note that in the Excel results you may get a 5 digit number. Its really a Pick 4 number. Just subtract 9999 from it OR just mentally move and add the first digit to the last. So a 10324 is really 0325.

                            Examples:

                            1.

                            10998     -      Add first digit to last, which is 1 + 0998 = 0999

                             

                            2.

                            15899.9   -     Add first digit to last digit before decimal, which is 1 + 5899.9 = 5900.9

                             

                            3.

                            13745.2   -   1 + 3745.2 = 3746

                             

                            Hope you find the program useful.

                            Good Luck!!!

                            Legend says that The Craggy One was once asked about the Lottery Circle and the aged Lottery LoreKeeper whispered in his gravelly eloquence,"It is known among our kind that 2 successive draws are in reality the 2 center-points of 2 intersecting circles that share a common radius - a Root Center. This Vesica Piscis is the creative womb for all numbers, the Still Point from which two draws will unite & a new one is born. This "perfect" space is a wormhole through Time(Change). Master its proportions & your numerical predictions will not falter". 

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                              Florida p4 using the last 2 draws of the morning: 2879,1756.

                              +0000737.7742.7787.7792.71237.71242.71287.71292.75737.75742.75787.75792.76237.76242.76287.7
                              +11111848.71853.71898.71903.72348.72353.72398.72403.76848.76853.76898.76903.77348.77353.77398.7
                              +22222959.72964.73009.73014.73459.73464.73509.73514.77959.77964.78009.78014.78459.78464.78509.7
                              +33334070.74075.74120.74125.74570.74575.74620.74625.79070.79075.79120.79125.79570.79575.79620.7
                              +44445181.75186.75231.75236.75681.75686.75731.75736.710181.710186.710231.710236.710681.710686.710731.7
                              +55556292.76297.76342.76347.76792.76797.76842.76847.711292.711297.711342.711347.711792.711797.711842.7
                              +66667403.77408.77453.77458.77903.77908.77953.77958.712403.712408.712453.712458.712903.712908.712953.7
                              +77778514.78519.78564.78569.79014.79019.79064.79069.713514.713519.713564.713569.714014.714019.714064.7
                              +88889625.79630.79675.79680.710125.710130.710175.710180.714625.714630.714675.714680.715125.715130.715175.7
                              +999910736.710741.710786.710791.711236.711241.711286.711291.715736.715741.715786.715791.716236.716241.716286.7
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                              I've already posted a tool one could use to help narrow down to the correct group of numbers to play. One other thing that could help is that you often see that the number immediately following +0000 or +5555 will contain footprints of the next winning draw. Again the program is meant to hit for the immediate next draw.

                              The winning draw was in the +3333 row with a box hit of 9120. But if you look at the numbers accompanying +0000 and +5555, you see that in +5555 it is 6292.7

                              The footprints of winning draw 9120 is contained in the 6292.7

                              Legend says that The Craggy One was once asked about the Lottery Circle and the aged Lottery LoreKeeper whispered in his gravelly eloquence,"It is known among our kind that 2 successive draws are in reality the 2 center-points of 2 intersecting circles that share a common radius - a Root Center. This Vesica Piscis is the creative womb for all numbers, the Still Point from which two draws will unite & a new one is born. This "perfect" space is a wormhole through Time(Change). Master its proportions & your numerical predictions will not falter". 

                                 
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