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PI in the Pick 3? What are we talking about exactly? A few ideas...

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lakerben's avatar - spherewall
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Posted: February 9, 2012, 2:56 pm - IP Logged

232

034

42.33521486+111=153.3352

                                264

                                 375

                                 486

                                  597

                                  708

                                   819

                                   930

                                  1041

I'm trying something for tonight.  Instead of using pi for the divisor I used 1.73. 

last draw        232

Tuesday night 034

 

76.8786

187

298

409

520

631

742

853

964

1075

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    kellmellus55's avatar - 53882ptr8it6sv1
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    Posted: February 11, 2012, 7:22 am - IP Logged

    Back in 2007 Sfilppo made an easy devil program which did the 4- PI calculations some people still have a copy.

      lakerben's avatar - spherewall
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      Posted: February 12, 2012, 12:56 pm - IP Logged

      Back in 2007 Sfilppo made an easy devil program which did the 4- PI calculations some people still have a copy.

      His were x/pi+666, x/pi-666, x+666/pi and x-666/pi.

        garyo1954's avatar - garyo
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        Posted: February 12, 2012, 1:57 pm - IP Logged

        His was just as good and a LOT CHEAPER than this mess. 

        Look at what you have here in simple terms. After all the annoying calculations, you have 4 formulas resulting in 36 combinations. And then you break those combinations into threes passed the decimal point. The smallest set you have shown to play from any single result is three combinations like 408 726 891.......

        So now you have 36 results times three decimal breakdowns.......or 108 combinations to play.

        Let's do that again.....

        4 formulas which produce 9 combinations each equals 36 combinations.

        Now take those 36 combinations and break those into 3-three digit sets passed the decimal point = 108 sets to play.

        Yep. That looks about right.

        Great! A systematic way to LOSE, just what I always wanted!!!!!

        Math works like this.....108 sets  at 50 cents = $54 spent.

        A box win = $40 recovered.

        Hello -$14!!!!!!!!!

        Why wait? With this mess you LOSE A LOT FASTER!

        I'll say it is original, might make a fair L. Ron Hubbard sci-fi plot with a lot of work.

        On the other hand it is a LOSER, no matter how many calculations, possible, maybes, ifs and could bes you put in it.

        Just take any 324 consecutive digits passed the decimal in pi, break those in to 3 digit sets and pay your $54. Chances are just as good and you don't need bad sci-fi, bad math, and annoying calculations.

          lakerben's avatar - spherewall
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          Posted: February 12, 2012, 7:34 pm - IP Logged

          His was just as good and a LOT CHEAPER than this mess. 

          Look at what you have here in simple terms. After all the annoying calculations, you have 4 formulas resulting in 36 combinations. And then you break those combinations into threes passed the decimal point. The smallest set you have shown to play from any single result is three combinations like 408 726 891.......

          So now you have 36 results times three decimal breakdowns.......or 108 combinations to play.

          Let's do that again.....

          4 formulas which produce 9 combinations each equals 36 combinations.

          Now take those 36 combinations and break those into 3-three digit sets passed the decimal point = 108 sets to play.

          Yep. That looks about right.

          Great! A systematic way to LOSE, just what I always wanted!!!!!

          Math works like this.....108 sets  at 50 cents = $54 spent.

          A box win = $40 recovered.

          Hello -$14!!!!!!!!!

          Why wait? With this mess you LOSE A LOT FASTER!

          I'll say it is original, might make a fair L. Ron Hubbard sci-fi plot with a lot of work.

          On the other hand it is a LOSER, no matter how many calculations, possible, maybes, ifs and could bes you put in it.

          Just take any 324 consecutive digits passed the decimal in pi, break those in to 3 digit sets and pay your $54. Chances are just as good and you don't need bad sci-fi, bad math, and annoying calculations.

          Well this system has already hit more than once in NM and it isn't necessary to buy more than 10 tickets.  I try and compare due pairs from the last 10-15 draws along with hot pairs with this system.  As far as NM goes  I think this system is more complete in the range of numbers you can pick.    The only problem is is that no one has programmed it for faster calculations .  This is a shame because with the "rings and mirrors" this could prove to be one of the best systems out there. Hopefully someone will step forward and program it.  Be open-minded and keep a running track of calculations for your state for a couple of weeks, and then make your assumptions.  I myself have been skeptical about people's systems only to find out that I missed on some wins because I didn't buy into the system.

           

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            Posted: February 12, 2012, 10:22 pm - IP Logged

            NEWFLASH:

            Faster calculations won't help.

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              His was just as good and a LOT CHEAPER than this mess. 

              Look at what you have here in simple terms. After all the annoying calculations, you have 4 formulas resulting in 36 combinations. And then you break those combinations into threes passed the decimal point. The smallest set you have shown to play from any single result is three combinations like 408 726 891.......

              So now you have 36 results times three decimal breakdowns.......or 108 combinations to play.

              Let's do that again.....

              4 formulas which produce 9 combinations each equals 36 combinations.

              Now take those 36 combinations and break those into 3-three digit sets passed the decimal point = 108 sets to play.

              Yep. That looks about right.

              Great! A systematic way to LOSE, just what I always wanted!!!!!

              Math works like this.....108 sets  at 50 cents = $54 spent.

              A box win = $40 recovered.

              Hello -$14!!!!!!!!!

              Why wait? With this mess you LOSE A LOT FASTER!

              I'll say it is original, might make a fair L. Ron Hubbard sci-fi plot with a lot of work.

              On the other hand it is a LOSER, no matter how many calculations, possible, maybes, ifs and could bes you put in it.

              Just take any 324 consecutive digits passed the decimal in pi, break those in to 3 digit sets and pay your $54. Chances are just as good and you don't need bad sci-fi, bad math, and annoying calculations.

              Wow. You sound a bit persnickety, even a little angry. I don't know why. Please don't me let stress you...for whatever reason. Its not worth it. Again, I don't know why you're angry or pissed or whatever. Even in one of your earliest posts in this thread, you  overtly challenging me to think well on my system, because you said, as per your questions about it, "they will get harder". WHAT IS THAT?!

              I told you that this wasn't a contest, and that questions were a great thing for the good of improving ideas. You then proceeded to not really ask me questions. You kindly built a small program for this system. I told you it was wrong.  I then told you a couple of times to ask me any and all question, to better help you, because I saw, maybe from your past exposure to other Pi systems, that you were misinterpreting and wrongly assuming things about my system.

              This system is very, very, very, simple. Your assumptions above are inaccurate. There are fundamentally 4 super quick and simple arithmetical calculations that you do that take 15 seconds to perform. So simple they even don't deserve to be called the esteemed word of "calculations". If those "calculations" are annoying...umm...okay. Its annoying to you, to your personality, to what you like and don't like. I get it. I also get, that there, I can't help you...

              Also, you don't play numbers using all 4 formulas. That's silly. You can practice with the 4 formulas, and you learn how they work. Compare and contrast. You know...studying. Then you choose the 1 or 2 formulas whose numbers your going to use for a particular draw.

              Also that decimal calculation stuff you wrote above. WHAT? I don't understand how you made that leap. You don't play all those combos. 108 set Gary? Are you serious? Funny thing is, I think you may be. Well Gary, no. 108 sets. No.

              There are 9 core numbers you get after using a formula. Many of the tips I been providing AFTER posting the system, are general tips for all systems. There is a high logic, much practice and creative play to everything I write. I don't spill everything I know, but I give many, many clues. I try to pass on a way of looking at numbers, that I think will endure for any system you play...

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                Back in 2007 Sfilppo made an easy devil program which did the 4- PI calculations some people still have a copy.

                Hello kellmellus55,

                I'm familiar with Sfilppo program. If it were the same as this system, I wouldn't have created it. I don't know if you got chance to read this thread through, but the way you arrive at "X" in the Rings of Pi, and then put it in the formula and do a wrap-down of the resulting draw is not in the Sfilppo program...

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                  Well this system has already hit more than once in NM and it isn't necessary to buy more than 10 tickets.  I try and compare due pairs from the last 10-15 draws along with hot pairs with this system.  As far as NM goes  I think this system is more complete in the range of numbers you can pick.    The only problem is is that no one has programmed it for faster calculations .  This is a shame because with the "rings and mirrors" this could prove to be one of the best systems out there. Hopefully someone will step forward and program it.  Be open-minded and keep a running track of calculations for your state for a couple of weeks, and then make your assumptions.  I myself have been skeptical about people's systems only to find out that I missed on some wins because I didn't buy into the system.

                   

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                  I appreciate your comments lakerben...

                  The only "calculation" that takes the most time is the simple wrapdown.

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                    NEWFLASH:

                    Faster calculations won't help.

                    Do you really know of what you speak? Reeeea-lly

                    There are really good methods and system written by the members of the LP that are buried in the archives. Many of them fundamentally went unnoticed after the usual, "mmm, aaah, nice effort". I'm not necessarily putting myself in that class, but I will say, that some people don't realize what they have in front of them, waiting to be taken, more deeply explored and made better. Oh well, the beautiful thing is that no one person has the answer. More than one will have it. So it follows that other good methods and systems coming from different angles will always rise up to take the place of their ancestors in constant renewal...

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                      Since I've been on this forum I've learned a lot about the p3, p4 games and the jackpot games.  I've been impressed by several intelligent posters: Jade, Paruths,Lottolaughs, Diamondpalace, Destiny, Winsomeloosesum,  etc.  All these people are on here to help others and thats a good thing.  In addition, this thread has broken down the process of looking at the p3,p4 games even more. 

                      It doesn't matter if a person wins with fortune cookies, software , roosters pecking paper , pen and pencil whatever.  The goal of most people is to win money.  Others like the social aspect of the site.  I, myself want to win and enjoy the systems and people for the most part.   If not, I'll make some money and go fishing.

                       

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                        Do you really know of what you speak? Reeeea-lly

                        There are really good methods and system written by the members of the LP that are buried in the archives. Many of them fundamentally went unnoticed after the usual, "mmm, aaah, nice effort". I'm not necessarily putting myself in that class, but I will say, that some people don't realize what they have in front of them, waiting to be taken, more deeply explored and made better. Oh well, the beautiful thing is that no one person has the answer. More than one will have it. So it follows that other good methods and systems coming from different angles will always rise up to take the place of their ancestors in constant renewal...

                        Kola>>>I'll back you on your statements here. There are always new ways to skin a cat. We've seen it!

                        'garyo' is looking for that magic elusive method to place in a program he can do for anyone here on the LP...he did a very nice compilation for 'somers' a few weeks ago, which I downloaded and still use it daily in my own P3 analysis of hitting the right 3 numbers. I believe him to be a good programmer and that we should use him to his fullest extent. I think he feels there could be too much data in converting your ideas into an alogrithm of understanding. At least that's how I read his posts. If he contacts you through the PM services provided here on the LP you may get a good solid capable program from him. Best to have a few shortcuts while one thinks of the next move up the castle wall. He may be able to provide intuitive insights too!

                        all the best and please PM anytime.

                        yt

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                          Kola>>>I'll back you on your statements here. There are always new ways to skin a cat. We've seen it!

                          'garyo' is looking for that magic elusive method to place in a program he can do for anyone here on the LP...he did a very nice compilation for 'somers' a few weeks ago, which I downloaded and still use it daily in my own P3 analysis of hitting the right 3 numbers. I believe him to be a good programmer and that we should use him to his fullest extent. I think he feels there could be too much data in converting your ideas into an alogrithm of understanding. At least that's how I read his posts. If he contacts you through the PM services provided here on the LP you may get a good solid capable program from him. Best to have a few shortcuts while one thinks of the next move up the castle wall. He may be able to provide intuitive insights too!

                          all the best and please PM anytime.

                          yt

                          dx123

                          Hello dx123,

                          Thanks for your comments...

                          I've read somer's thread and read comments about the nice program garyo built. I also appreciate that he's a really good programmer whose thorough, works quickly, and can offer good insights.  And to your point, I also realize that he may feel there's too much data to convert, and to make sense of it may be a little frustrating. That's why I advised him to question me, to separate whats essential from the non-essential, and ascertain the facts, and delete the fiction...Like I said, the system is simple. Yet, at the back end of it and numbering several pages, I interwove additional tips in how to look at numbers in general, which may have distracted him...I will post the whole system again on another thread.

                          Thanks for offering your much valued perspective....

                          Kola

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                            Can some give me a copy of this program all of his system are good still using his DUKE.

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                              Kola>>>I'll back you on your statements here. There are always new ways to skin a cat. We've seen it!

                              'garyo' is looking for that magic elusive method to place in a program he can do for anyone here on the LP...he did a very nice compilation for 'somers' a few weeks ago, which I downloaded and still use it daily in my own P3 analysis of hitting the right 3 numbers. I believe him to be a good programmer and that we should use him to his fullest extent. I think he feels there could be too much data in converting your ideas into an alogrithm of understanding. At least that's how I read his posts. If he contacts you through the PM services provided here on the LP you may get a good solid capable program from him. Best to have a few shortcuts while one thinks of the next move up the castle wall. He may be able to provide intuitive insights too!

                              all the best and please PM anytime.

                              yt

                              dx123

                              No way would I attempt to code this mess for anybody's use.

                              THERE ARE TOO MANY IFS, POSSIBLES, COULD BES AND MAYBES IN IT. I've said that countless times.

                              DX123, she has said she made it up before she posted. She acknowledges she don't use it herself; she hasn't shown any results from testing; she won't answer questions, and then turns it into a personal attack when I call it a mess? LMAO

                              Read all my posts, I don't say things flippantly without doing a pretty thorough investigation. I coded it for testing. Here's the states I've tested:

                              Add Texas to that list. Would I use it? NO.

                              Would I suggest anyone in those states use it? NO.

                              As she has said there are a lot better systems here on LP that do no require anyone to accept contrived notions, or bad math, or believe everything they see on science fiction theater.

                                 
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