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Eugene Oregan
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The RAC option is designed around a certain type of setup and is geared toward a 4of5 match.  The more you reduce

the more likely you will loose the 4of5's.  There are limits to how many sets can be reduced and still maintain a 4of5.

If your setup produces or traps all 5 winning numbers the more likely RAC is going to trap at least one 4of5.  RAC is

math based and does not wheel the numbers like a normal wheel. It wheels the entire line and starts with the assumption

that the winning line is somewhere within the temp file.  It first has to pick the starting set at random but then uses

pure math to reduce from that point.   The first run it treats each line as if it was the winning set and checks it against

all the other sets.  From this information it is able to calculate how many total numbers are used in all the sets then from

this it calculates the number of sets that have none of the winning numbers.  If you have 15 different numbers and each

set has 5 numbers then you can build 3 sets with no repeating numbers.  Find three sets that have no repeating numbers

and here you have something that most don't consider.  Lets say that the first set has none of the numbers of the other

two.  Next we find another set that only has 1 number from one of the other sets then one that has two and so on and

on.  If done correctly then one of the reduced sets will have a 4of5.  This is why I say to use a certain type of setup.  Once

this is complete then these remaining sets are optimized to reduce as much as possible.  The next stage does it's thing

and so on and on until you have the best possible lines that the offer the best coverage from the temp file.  There is a

limit to this process that when reached it cannot continue to reduce.  Once that limit is reached the program must choose

a set at random to remove from the list in order to continue reducing.  Each time ii has to do this, it a gamble but it also

uses a sort of biased approach to ensure the random selection meets a few requirements before it is removed.  All this

takes millions and millions of calculations but it does very well.  I have a much more advanced version but it is not finished

yet.

The explanation is very detailed, but you created the DM and you are very through, i trust you RL and would not expect any less from you.  Makes sense that the reduction will eliminate losing sets and winning sets also.  dld

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It's a touch and go sort of thing, we only have to get everything correct once to make it all worth it.

The big games are tough but I still think we can do it.  My goal is to hit as many smaller prizes while

waiting on the big one.   I play my 5-39 mostly and for the most part I play for free being that I fund

my play with my winnings.  All we need is a few 4of5's and maybe a 4+1 and we can play for a long

time for no out of pocket cost.  Anytime you remove even one number from the pool we are taking a

risk, reducing from almost 4 million down to 25 is taking a lot of risk.  A few months back I hit 2ea 5of5

in one week, one on 108 lines and the other on 100.  I lost both JPs getting down to my 15 line limit.

I hit at least 5 to 10 Jp's a year but loose them in the final reduction process.  I am always working on

ways to avoid this but so far the only thing I have found that works 100% of the time is to buy all the

tickets.

PS. everything will come together as you keep using the software. Don't try to learn it all in one day

just learn as you go.  There will always be another JP so play on paper as much as needed.  I hope

that everyone knows that this is a in it for the long hall sort of process.  I still make mistakes in my

analysis but I don't let it get me down because we are attempting the impossible.

I guess what I am saying is that there is no shame in missing a value or values as long as you give it

RL

Working on my Ph.D.  "University of hard Knocks"

I will consider the opinion that my winnings are a product of chance if you are willing to consider

they are not.  Many great discoveries come while searching for something else

Trump / 2016 & 2020

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Hi guys

Another word of advice for what it is worth, try to play detatched from the game.  If you feel that you

need to be correct then you will end up burnt out.   I tackle the lottery like any other thing I do.  I

first get all the information I can gather then make a choice based on my understanding.  We are all

going to make incorrect guesses time to time but try to keep a positive attitude.  Don't let the lottery

become a taskmaster or it will work you to death feeding you nothing but crumbs.

RL

Working on my Ph.D.  "University of hard Knocks"

I will consider the opinion that my winnings are a product of chance if you are willing to consider

they are not.  Many great discoveries come while searching for something else

Trump / 2016 & 2020

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Hi guys,

Sorry to interrupt the posting for tonights drawing, but i want know if anyone has loosen their filters and just run a the RFW, RAC, or the RLP and saved the numbers. Then see if the winning number fell in there? When I say loose I mean maybe a return of 300 or less but more than 100.

Thanks

A.

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Hi guys,

Sorry to interrupt the posting for tonights drawing, but i want know if anyone has loosen their filters and just run a the RFW, RAC, or the RLP and saved the numbers. Then see if the winning number fell in there? When I say loose I mean maybe a return of 300 or less but more than 100.

Thanks

A.

Please note I ran 618 lines on RFW and then got 8 lines from RLP.  See a few posts above.

Just do it......

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Please note I ran 618 lines on RFW and then got 8 lines from RLP.  See a few posts above.

I see the settings, Thanks!

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I think many people have played this way and 300 sets is the upper limit of a good amount

for the RAC option.  In backtest RAC has hit many 5of5 prizes with fewer than 20 lines.  A

good setup is needed for this to happen but there is no reason for it not to keep hitting but

don't expect a 5of5 every time.  RLP is a work in progress and gives mixed results as far as

I am concerned.  Several have posted on the topic and you might search the thread to see

how they faired using it or maybe someone will reply.  Welcome to the post.

RL

Working on my Ph.D.  "University of hard Knocks"

I will consider the opinion that my winnings are a product of chance if you are willing to consider

they are not.  Many great discoveries come while searching for something else

Trump / 2016 & 2020

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I think many people have played this way and 300 sets is the upper limit of a good amount

for the RAC option.  In backtest RAC has hit many 5of5 prizes with fewer than 20 lines.  A

good setup is needed for this to happen but there is no reason for it not to keep hitting but

don't expect a 5of5 every time.  RLP is a work in progress and gives mixed results as far as

I am concerned.  Several have posted on the topic and you might search the thread to see

how they faired using it or maybe someone will reply.  Welcome to the post.

RL

Thank you, I'm trying test my filters, which I know thats what everyone here is doing also!

Tn
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 Posted: July 27, 2012, 9:44 pm - IP Logged

Hi guys

Another word of advice for what it is worth, try to play detatched from the game.  If you feel that you

need to be correct then you will end up burnt out.   I tackle the lottery like any other thing I do.  I

first get all the information I can gather then make a choice based on my understanding.  We are all

going to make incorrect guesses time to time but try to keep a positive attitude.  Don't let the lottery

become a taskmaster or it will work you to death feeding you nothing but crumbs.

RL

WHEN IT FEELS THE WHOLE WORLD SUCKS!

RELAX.........IT'S ONLY GRAVITY

I think I can I think I can!!!!

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Hi Guys

tonights draw, 02-03-04-08-43 never seen that coming, Oh well anything can happen.

RL

Working on my Ph.D.  "University of hard Knocks"

I will consider the opinion that my winnings are a product of chance if you are willing to consider

they are not.  Many great discoveries come while searching for something else

Trump / 2016 & 2020

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Hi Guys

tonights draw, 02-03-04-08-43 never seen that coming, Oh well anything can happen.

RL

Well RL,

At least I got the Bonus ball!!

But Man-o-Man the drawing came from two groups, A and B.

Three numbers from group A, that is what do me in, do me in, oh!! Babe it did me in. ,

If I had played random all the groups, I may have faired better.

Which is what I may do next time.

Now I am paranoid, could it be the lottery folks are keeping an eyes on this thread?

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Mega Millions jackpot winning ticket in California

RELEASE DATE: 7/27/2012

There was one jackpot winning ticket in the July 27, 2012 Mega Millions drawing.  The winning ticket was bought in California.  The jackpot was an estimated \$52 million.

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Well RL,

At least I got the Bonus ball!!

But Man-o-Man the drawing came from two groups, A and B.

Three numbers from group A, that is what do me in, do me in, oh!! Babe it did me in. ,

If I had played random all the groups, I may have faired better.

Which is what I may do next time.

Now I am paranoid, could it be the lottery folks are keeping an eyes on this thread?

BH

While it's a rare event MM has had 4 draws where the forth number has come from group B.

I think it's just part of the game.   Anytime I see all low or all high numbers I expect that some

person will hit the JP because many buy tickets with all the numbers less than 10.  I expect that

many more 4of5 winning tickets were sold then for a normal draw.  There was one draw were

the 5th number came from group C.  Stuff happens.

RL

Working on my Ph.D.  "University of hard Knocks"

I will consider the opinion that my winnings are a product of chance if you are willing to consider

they are not.  Many great discoveries come while searching for something else

Trump / 2016 & 2020

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Guys

What I'm going to do is do setups for the next 10 MM games and see what filters work for me the best. I will not post pics anymore as it does clutter up things here.

RL, as soon as figured out pls let me know which filter/filters need to be taken care of. I'll see then where I could fit in best.

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RL,

is there anyway to add a filter to eliminate  just an end digit? or am I missing a step? Just eliminating a digit also eliminates the decade. I mean if I want to eliminate the three's 3-13-23-33 etc  I will end up eliminating every 30 digit too. Thanks!

fd

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