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Posted: May 23, 2014, 7:15 pm - IP Logged

I feel the same about that as well as reverse numbers like 14 & 41.  I also was assuming immediately after a good W, there is probably a string of losers.

Simulated randomness.

Agree with both of you...The bounce numbers depress me before I scratch off all the numbers... also the 14 / 41 combination on the ticket is a sure sign its a loser.

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    Posted: May 24, 2014, 3:39 am - IP Logged

    Friday fun

    Same CVS 2 bins
    $20
    #000: break even
    #014: dud

    Liquor 1
    $20
    #006: dud
    #007: break even
    CB
    #017: break even
    #018: dud
    Gold
    #016: dud
    #017: $15

    Liquor 2
    $20
    #017: break even
    #018: $50
    CB
    #008: $15
    #009: dud

    Liquor 3
    $20
    #000: dud
    #001: break even
    Gold
    #011: break even
    #012: dud
    CB
    #002: dud
    #003: dud

    9/18 wins
    1:2
    $260 in, $180 out
    $80 hijacked

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      Posted: May 24, 2014, 12:17 pm - IP Logged

      Agree with both of you...The bounce numbers depress me before I scratch off all the numbers... also the 14 / 41 combination on the ticket is a sure sign its a loser.

      Florida is the same way.  It is really irritating because the "winning numbers" will be: 2 4 6 8 and then you'll scratch your numbers and the first one will be 1, then 3, then 5, etc. and you already know that you have a losing ticket.  I would prefer complete randomness so that I can't predict my losers with near 100% accuracy within the first scratch or two.

      I'll get off my soap box now....

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        Posted: May 24, 2014, 4:42 pm - IP Logged

        Even with re-orders, top prizes seem to be distributed roughly, relative to sales.  Assuming a top prize ticket is not currently being processed or lost, this game seems to be due for a top prize win at any time. 

        Also, we don't know how the CA Lottery integrates re-order prints to their ticket population, whether they get mixed in with first run prints or just added to the end.  Hypothetically, if re-order tickets are added to the end, we should still be seeing first run prints at stores.  This game started with 17 top prizes with 5 added later.  The odds don't change because all prizes (and losers) are added proportionally for each top prize added, so I would assume we would experience the same winning or losing pattern as before, unless the re-orders are much more/less clumpy with winners which may give the appearance that it's easier or harder to win.

         

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        The top prize count was updated to 10 since my post earlier in the week.  Based on sales, I think another TP or two are in circulation, being processed, held on to, or lost.

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          Posted: May 24, 2014, 7:42 pm - IP Logged

          Just playing CG & CBE right now.  120-100 today.  Biggest W $20.

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            Posted: May 24, 2014, 11:58 pm - IP Logged

            Friday...

             

            Two $1 Piggy Bank [Dud, $20]

            One $5 777 [$10]

            Two $2 Rock Star 7's [Dud, $20]

            Four 5X Crossword [Dud, Dud, Dud, $5]

            One $20 5MJP [Break-even]

             

            $43 spent, $75 returned. I think any scratcher player would kill for that kind of return, but I'm still holding out for something substantial.

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              Posted: May 25, 2014, 11:55 am - IP Logged

              Got a 5MP from a Cerritos donut shop last evening - dud

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                Posted: May 27, 2014, 1:04 pm - IP Logged

                Friday...

                 

                Two $1 Piggy Bank [Dud, $20]

                One $5 777 [$10]

                Two $2 Rock Star 7's [Dud, $20]

                Four 5X Crossword [Dud, Dud, Dud, $5]

                One $20 5MJP [Break-even]

                 

                $43 spent, $75 returned. I think any scratcher player would kill for that kind of return, but I'm still holding out for something substantial.

                Good return indeed, anytime you could make profit is a good day's of play! Good job!

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                  Posted: May 28, 2014, 12:36 am - IP Logged

                  Got 2 5MP and lost both.. $40 down the drain..

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                    Posted: May 28, 2014, 11:56 am - IP Logged

                    Don't know if anyone posted this, but there's now an end of game date for Diamond Millionaire.  6/20/14.

                    Pulling that $5 game, Smokin Hot Cash as well, also on 6/20/14.  Both games have about half their GPs remaining.

                    Probably pulled due to slowing sales, but that's still a lot of GPs those games have left.

                    Still playing CG & CBE.  Unfortunately, still losing. 

                    Wouldn't mind playing $10 Bonus CW, but there was just a 4th winner (in El Monte) posted on CaLottery's twitter acct.

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                      Don't know if anyone posted this, but there's now an end of game date for Diamond Millionaire.  6/20/14.

                      Pulling that $5 game, Smokin Hot Cash as well, also on 6/20/14.  Both games have about half their GPs remaining.

                      Probably pulled due to slowing sales, but that's still a lot of GPs those games have left.

                      Still playing CG & CBE.  Unfortunately, still losing. 

                      Wouldn't mind playing $10 Bonus CW, but there was just a 4th winner (in El Monte) posted on CaLottery's twitter acct.

                      mrcraft brought it up about a few weeks ago when Diamond Millionaire 2nd Chance Draw date was posted for mid-August on the website and I think some of us were on a manhunt for those tickets since then.

                      The 6-20-14 is just as expected as the gap between the End of Game and the 2nd Chance Draw date are two months apart.

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                        Posted: May 28, 2014, 4:04 pm - IP Logged

                        I have been hunting DM but couldnt find any...

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                          Posted: May 28, 2014, 4:32 pm - IP Logged

                          Regarding DM, does anyone have an estimate (percentage or number) of how many losing tickets will be entered for the 2nd chance drawing?

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                            Posted: May 28, 2014, 4:50 pm - IP Logged

                            Regarding DM, does anyone have an estimate (percentage or number) of how many losing tickets will be entered for the 2nd chance drawing?

                            Green Sandals, for any second chance Scratcher drawing, conservatively, there's going to be at least 3 million entries. I would count on maybe a third of that for DM, specifically.

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                              Posted: May 28, 2014, 5:54 pm - IP Logged

                              On a very small sample size, I once estimated average 2nd chance participation at roughly 20% per game.  This was back in December or earlier this year, when I was more gung-ho about 2nd chance drawings.  My interest has waned quite a bit since then, mainly thanks to my 0-for-72 average.  Angry

                              Based on prizes and prizes claimed figures, DM is at 46.27% sold.  Total ticket population is 21,600,000, thus ~9.99 million DM tickets sold.  So, my guesstimate is ~2 million 2nd chance entries for DM.  This game didn't sell anywhere close to its recent predecessors.

                              Our most recent real-life example was $1MF.  2nd chance entries for that game was actually less than 20%.  Game was at 93.80% sold, total ticket population was 30,000,000, thus ~28,140,000 tickets sold.  2nd chance entry count was 4,847,997.  2nd chance participation rate for $1MF was 17.2%.

                              The $10 game before that, $250 Million Cash Spectacular, had 7,491,501 2nd chance entries.  I don't have access to the game stats anymore, but I believe by the time that game ended it had 37 top prizes, and they were all claimed, so probably the game was close to 99% sold.  Making that assumption, 2nd chance participation was 17.0% for this game.

                                 
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