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# Can math and logic improve chances of winning a jackpot?

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How many wins constitute proof of skill rather than luck?

At least one?

However sincerely I would imagine one would need to get in the double digit range of 4/5 wins to at least be able to dispell a little doubt of it being all luck.  And I mean a little.

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Is this a rhetorical question?  Are you going to prove it on this thread?

Logic is mostly a 'if this then that" scenario.  So if 18 hits tonite in take five then I will play 11 tommorrow and the 18 again.

Every game probably has its "own" special logic formulas, and what works for NY will not always work well for OH.

However I am sure some of the underlying random principles apply for both states.

The question was put to me and my response was at the beginning of this thread.  I decided to use it as a subject of this thread to get others response.

I have no plans to try and prove it to anyone but myself because it would be impossible to prove it to some else's satisfaction and there wouldn't be any point  to it, after all there no value in making anyone a jackpot winner other than myself.

* you don't need to buy more tickets, just buy a winning ticket *

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How many wins constitute proof of skill rather than luck?

I'm not sure any wins would be needed to constitute proof of skill, it would a matter of your evaluation of your results.  If you simple identified the parameters of the next winning combination and it was within those parameters a good percent of the time then that alone could be enough.

Others might not agree but as I said in a previous post, you wouldn't be trying to make anyone other than yourself a jackpot winner so it wouldn't matter.

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How many wins constitute proof of skill rather than luck?

It depends on how confident you want to be in your conclusion.  If your method produces wins more often than what's expected by chance at least 95% of the time over the necessary number of trials, you could say you are winning with skill with 95% confidence.  There are well established mathematical methods for making these calculations.  You can find them by...

Clicking HERE.

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It depends on how confident you want to be in your conclusion.  If your method produces wins more often than what's expected by chance at least 95% of the time over the necessary number of trials, you could say you are winning with skill with 95% confidence.  There are well established mathematical methods for making these calculations.  You can find them by...

Clicking HERE.

This is for regulating machines!

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I'm not sure any wins would be needed to constitute proof of skill, it would a matter of your evaluation of your results.  If you simple identified the parameters of the next winning combination and it was within those parameters a good percent of the time then that alone could be enough.

Others might not agree but as I said in a previous post, you wouldn't be trying to make anyone other than yourself a jackpot winner so it wouldn't matter.

Lottery players have skills that others will never comprehend or attain.

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I've matched 5of6 twice, once in 2002 and again last month.  I've never matched a 5of5 but plenty of 5of5 have come up that were within the parameters of the picks I was making so I'm hopeful it's just a matter of time before I'm successful.

I'm focused only on the four games that I can play locally so that should help.

Can you define what you mean by "focused"?

What are the logical and mathematical steps in your W/O?

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The answer to OP imo is yes. Add some luck, but not as much luck as a QP lone wolf and you'll make some money. I use number spacing and use recent hot numbers, or if my mom feels lucky and greedy(in this case she wants to use her money on my picks rofl). I'm above water and outperforming my rest of QP'ing family.

I've done 4/4, 4/5 and 2/4 (slightly off on the spacing with the other 2 #s) spending maybe 4-6 dollars a week for 3 yrs since legally old enough to play xd I kinda dont wanna touch 6-ball lotteries since the odds-to-prize ratios are ridiculous to me and my w/o seems to be simpler with these 4-5ball lotteries. Just don't raise stakes or anything after winning or you'll get below water like I almost did.

My question is... Where's the logic and math in wheeling? Any1?

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Can you define what you mean by "focused"?

What are the logical and mathematical steps in your W/O?

Can you define what you mean by "focused"?

I only track the games I play.  I don't even discuss the games I don't.

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 Posted: March 13, 2013, 11:06 am - IP Logged

... if it isn't about wrong probability?

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Can you define what you mean by "focused"?

I only track the games I play.  I don't even discuss the games I don't.

What a gyp.

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What a gyp.

What's up with that?

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I only intend to prove 1 thing playing lotto.  and thats  what an idiot i am with a   bag load of winnings

2014 = -1016; 2015= -1409; 2016  = -1171; 2017 = ?  TOT =  -3596

keno historic = -2291 ; 2015= -603; 2016= -424; 2017 = ? TOT = - 3318

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I only intend to prove 1 thing playing lotto.  and thats  what an idiot i am with a   bag load of winnings

Unfortunately people will think you're lucky, smart or an insider(crook) with a bag load of lottery winnings, never an idiot.

* you don't need to buy more tickets, just buy a winning ticket *

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