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Can math and logic improve chances of winning a jackpot?

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Posted: March 21, 2013, 8:48 am - IP Logged

I dont know why one needs a computer to make an incorrect decision for them.

Sounds like you believe computers are making decisions on their own rather than following a set of instructions and using data entered by their users.

For me, it's easier and faster to use a computer to check my picks to make sure they aren't repeating combinations already drawn or duplicating themselves and avoiding other features I don't want them to have.

I won a few games playing drawn combinations.

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    I find that I have better luck with math methods when I can use them. As a truck driver I do not have alot of time to invest in picking numbers. I usually use excel to try to speed things along. For games like pick 3 and 4 I would start with the usual suspects. I start with finding the hot box numbers for the last year. Then I rank them to see where the most hot box numbers are comming from. I have found lately in the nc pick 3 that the hot box rank that came up the most seems to be 3456 or 2345 these numbers represent the number of times a box number came out in  the last year. Then I use the sums to eliminate some of those numbers, looking at the hot sum ranks, how many times did a given sum come up in the last year. You will usually wind up with around 60 or 70 combinations that will come up alot of the time but not all the time.  this is where you can hit a brick wall of thinking about how to further eliminate box combinations to a playable number. From here I experiment with different methods like using one number from the last game, while this idea works some of the time I think it sort of locks you into the patchy streaks where one number comes out from the last game. I have tried to wrap my mind around skip and hit charts but the only thing I see with them is a trend of wheather a given number will come out higher or lower than the last time that number came out. This does not eliminate many of the 60 or 70 numbers. I have been trying to see if there might be a trend in the last hit for all 220 box combinations for example winning numbers may come out between 400 and 500 games out for the hot box rank of 3. If this proves to be a consistent trend it could eliminate enough combinations to make it playable but still stuck with only winning that percent of the time, but that could be enough :)  I have found that using math methods seem to run you into a thinking wall of whats best most of the time.

    As far as the big games go, I have been experimenting with Ken Silvers method with the pick 5. It is weird and hokey but using some of the pick methods I outlined above to eliminate some of the 100 or so picks his method comes up with down to 10 or 12 playable combos. It only came up with 2 of the digits but does seem to hit all of the numbers in shotgun fashion. mabey someone else on here might have a better idea along the same lines of thought? I find in the big games the first 5 numbers must be seperated from the power or mega number that is seperatley drawn. Hope this helps, if any.


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      Lottologix,

      You said, "I have been trying to see if there might be a trend in the last hit for all 220 box combinations for example winning numbers may come out between 400 and 500 games out for the hot box rank of 3. If this proves to be a consistent trend it could eliminate enough combinations to make it playable but still stuck with only winning that percent of the time, but that could be enough :)"

      If and when you see a "trend" like this, how will you explain it?  In other words, what do you think could "cause" such a "trend?"

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        Hello, can the matemetica and the game help for a big prize? The math can help to a certain extent an example 6/49 lottery, mathematics can help set of 3 to 4 numbers, this is what is happening, the rest will be random (without control) the logic can be used to define arrays
        Example of a simple array is the resulting pair of odd and low and high pairs
        Example = a 49/6
        12, 15, 26, 32, 45.48
        Amount of type pair = 7
        Amount of odd digits = 5
        The pair formed 75
        Low (0, 1, 2, 3.4) = 8
        High (5, 6, 7, 8.9) = 4
        The pair formed 84
        Everything that has hit it is the two pairs = 75.84 (odd and even and low and high)
        Are you hitting the two pairs, one can create wheels
        One can notice that there is in equilibrium in these pairs, with or without repetition of digits in each sector
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          Posted: March 21, 2013, 4:55 pm - IP Logged

          A player wrote that he won twice 500, using data that I posted for AON. Well played, I say!

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            What I am looking for is a trend very similar to sums. For example if you create a hot sums rank where you simply count the number of times a given sum came up in the last year you would notice that most of the  sums come out between the sum of 8 and 19. I am looking at the number of games since a given number came out last in the same way. It is very consistent in both the pick 3 and 4 that some numbers come out more than others, I am looking for the same in the number indicators. Where there are differences between the these methods tend to eliminate a few less likley box numbers when the application to the remaining numbers, keeping a certain ammout of accuracy to the next game. This seems to be the real trick, getting methods that work well together without eliminating the probable winning number most of the time. But as I will eventually find out that there is a certain balance between the number of combinations that are likley to come out and the number of combinations that can be realistically played. In other words I will be able to greatly improve my chances of wining something within a smaller group of numbers, but there will still be a measure of luck involved. You cannot really buy a win, you can try but usually not at a  profit. Sorry if some of my explanation seems nebulus, happy to clarify anything you might want to expand on.


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              Posted: March 23, 2013, 2:32 am - IP Logged

              A player wrote that he won twice 500, using data that I posted for AON. Well played, I say!

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                Posted: March 23, 2013, 11:23 am - IP Logged

                What I am looking for is a trend very similar to sums. For example if you create a hot sums rank where you simply count the number of times a given sum came up in the last year you would notice that most of the  sums come out between the sum of 8 and 19. I am looking at the number of games since a given number came out last in the same way. It is very consistent in both the pick 3 and 4 that some numbers come out more than others, I am looking for the same in the number indicators. Where there are differences between the these methods tend to eliminate a few less likley box numbers when the application to the remaining numbers, keeping a certain ammout of accuracy to the next game. This seems to be the real trick, getting methods that work well together without eliminating the probable winning number most of the time. But as I will eventually find out that there is a certain balance between the number of combinations that are likley to come out and the number of combinations that can be realistically played. In other words I will be able to greatly improve my chances of wining something within a smaller group of numbers, but there will still be a measure of luck involved. You cannot really buy a win, you can try but usually not at a  profit. Sorry if some of my explanation seems nebulus, happy to clarify anything you might want to expand on.

                You cannot buy a win? I want you to play and watch roulette for a month.

                How about sums in a pick 1?

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                  Posted: March 24, 2013, 11:00 am - IP Logged

                  I've matched 5of6 twice, once in 2002 and again last month.  I've never matched a 5of5 but plenty of 5of5 have come up that were within the parameters of the picks I was making so I'm hopeful it's just a matter of time before I'm successful.

                  I'm focused only on the four games that I can play locally so that should help.

                  Wow! that's awesome

                   

                  ive matched 5 on differeent tickets. Don't think that counts LOL

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                    I'm a firm believer math can help you win. Proof, you all want proof .... Working on it.   The ONLY time I matched 5 out of 6 I didn't play )-:  I went to the store like I always do at the 11 th hour and there lotto machine was broken. The next closest store was past the cut off time .   I love trying though (-:

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                      Absolutely agree.......math plays a huge role aswell reading paterns.

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                        He wont say fully.  Its proprietary.

                        There's nothing proprietary about looking at previous drawings and using repeating trends to pick combinations for future drawings.

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                          There's nothing proprietary about looking at previous drawings and using repeating trends to pick combinations for future drawings.

                          There has to be something proprietary somewhere, otherwise, GH would not have trademarked some of her terminology and go after copycats, and LP would offer all the abbreviated wheels for free to any member.

                          And all of Steve Players systems would be emailed without cost to everyone.

                          You could program something that works RJ, and sell it.  You could be a proprieter.  Wink

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                            There has to be something proprietary somewhere, otherwise, GH would not have trademarked some of her terminology and go after copycats, and LP would offer all the abbreviated wheels for free to any member.

                            And all of Steve Players systems would be emailed without cost to everyone.

                            You could program something that works RJ, and sell it.  You could be a proprieter.  Wink

                            Illogical.


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                              Illogical.

                              EXACTLY!!!!DanceCoffee

                                 
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