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Looks like the OCL \$43 million is still in play for Sat. night.

6/49Drawing Days:Mon, Wed, SatDrawing Time:7:29 PM Eastern Time (GMT-5:00)Draw Method:Mechanical Lottery Ball MachineCurrent Jackpot:\$43.5 Million for the drawing on Saturday, August 17, 2013

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Looks like OCL is trending toward all even numbers.

Draw Date  Results
Wed, Aug 14, 201311-14-16-28-36-48?Prize Payouts
Mon, Aug 12, 201302-16-20-23-34-38?Prize Payouts
Sat, Aug 10, 201312-18-19-22-27-34?Prize Payouts
Wed, Aug 7, 201308-30-32-34-38-49?Prize Payouts
Mon, Aug 5, 201301-21-29-33-38-42?Prize Payouts
Sat, Aug 3, 201314-16-18-28-36-38?Prize Payouts
Wed, Jul 31, 201302-11-27-40-48-49?Prize Payouts
Mon, Jul 29, 201306-11-12-19-21-36?Prize Payouts
Sat, Jul 27, 201305-14-22-36-44-45?Prize Payouts
Wed, Jul 24, 201303-16-25-36-40-44?Prize Payouts

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I'm playing a 24 all even number wheel......

Wheel: Pick 6 Key 3 if 3 of 24

Tickets:  28

Description:  Minimum 3-number match, if 3 numbers drawn fall within your set of 24 numbers.

Input:  2, 4, 6, 8, 10, 12, 14, 16, 18, 20, 22, 24, 26, 28, 30, 32, 34, 36, 38, 40, 42, 44, 46, 48

1. 02-04-06-18-32-34
2. 02-04-08-26-30-42
3. 02-04-10-12-26-40
4. 02-04-14-22-28-48
5. 02-04-16-20-24-44
6. 02-04-36-38-42-46
7. 02-06-08-20-28-30
8. 02-06-10-14-16-36
9. 02-06-12-24-42-48
10. 02-06-20-28-38-40
11. 02-06-22-26-44-46
12. 02-08-10-12-30-40
13. 02-08-14-30-34-44
14. 02-08-16-30-46-48
15. 02-08-18-24-30-32
16. 02-08-22-30-36-38
17. 02-10-18-20-22-42
18. 02-10-24-28-34-46
19. 02-10-32-38-44-48
20. 02-12-14-20-32-46
21. 02-12-16-22-34-38
22. 02-12-18-28-36-44
23. 02-14-18-24-26-38
24. 02-14-34-40-42-44
25. 02-16-18-40-46-48
26. 02-16-26-28-32-42
27. 02-20-26-34-36-48
28. 02-22-24-32-36-40

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I'm playing a 24 all even number wheel......

Wheel: Pick 6 Key 3 if 3 of 24

Tickets:  28

Description:  Minimum 3-number match, if 3 numbers drawn fall within your set of 24 numbers.

Input:  2, 4, 6, 8, 10, 12, 14, 16, 18, 20, 22, 24, 26, 28, 30, 32, 34, 36, 38, 40, 42, 44, 46, 48

1. 02-04-06-18-32-34
2. 02-04-08-26-30-42
3. 02-04-10-12-26-40
4. 02-04-14-22-28-48
5. 02-04-16-20-24-44
6. 02-04-36-38-42-46
7. 02-06-08-20-28-30
8. 02-06-10-14-16-36
9. 02-06-12-24-42-48
10. 02-06-20-28-38-40
11. 02-06-22-26-44-46
12. 02-08-10-12-30-40
13. 02-08-14-30-34-44
14. 02-08-16-30-46-48
15. 02-08-18-24-30-32
16. 02-08-22-30-36-38
17. 02-10-18-20-22-42
18. 02-10-24-28-34-46
19. 02-10-32-38-44-48
20. 02-12-14-20-32-46
21. 02-12-16-22-34-38
22. 02-12-18-28-36-44
23. 02-14-18-24-26-38
24. 02-14-34-40-42-44
25. 02-16-18-40-46-48
26. 02-16-26-28-32-42
27. 02-20-26-34-36-48
28. 02-22-24-32-36-40

I like it !  I like your odds a lot ....especially on those ALL Even days that happen just a few times a year. However, on "those days".... you are going to be closer to the win than almost everyone. It is a plan to better the odds that's for sure.

Years ago we played around with the ALL ODD/EVEN plays and it seemed like a great strategy. Rjoh was in on that topic at the time. Perhaps he can remember more about it.

If I was ever tempted to join a lottery pool ....that would be a good one.

The only real failure .....is the failure to try.

Luck is a very rare thing....... Odds not so much.

Odds never change .....but probability does.

Win d

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 Posted: August 15, 2013, 4:53 pm - IP Logged

Looks like the OCL \$43 million is still in play for Sat. night.

6/49Drawing Days:Mon, Wed, SatDrawing Time:7:29 PM Eastern Time (GMT-5:00)Draw Method:Mechanical Lottery Ball MachineCurrent Jackpot:\$43.5 Million for the drawing on Saturday, August 17, 2013

I played the 10 lines I posted on the prediction board plus seven more and couldn't get even a match3 for \$2.

I was playing numbers that had followed numbers in the previous drawing by position and although the winning combination was in the 4M possible combinations that could have been generated I didn't pick even a match3 to play.  I checked the 1008 combinations I generated to pick from and there were 13 match3's and 2 match4's that I rejected.  I'll be giving it another try this Saturday.

* you don't need to buy more tickets, just buy a winning ticket *

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I like it !  I like your odds a lot ....especially on those ALL Even days that happen just a few times a year. However, on "those days".... you are going to be closer to the win than almost everyone. It is a plan to better the odds that's for sure.

Years ago we played around with the ALL ODD/EVEN plays and it seemed like a great strategy. Rjoh was in on that topic at the time. Perhaps he can remember more about it.

If I was ever tempted to join a lottery pool ....that would be a good one.

I've looked at all even or odd strategy and like any strategy if you're using it when those conditions  happens then it's good but for a game like Ohio's Classic Lotto all even has only happened twelve time in 1028 drawings and when it happened the odds of playing all six winning numbers were 1:177,100 and your overall odds of even getting anything that paid were only 1:8.

If you plan on playing every drawing, then your strategy has to be for conditions that exits a little more often.  Even when you reduce the number of possible combinations by half the odds of winning are still high enough that it hard to notice any difference in your winnings.

* you don't need to buy more tickets, just buy a winning ticket *

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 Posted: August 15, 2013, 5:41 pm - IP Logged

I'm playing a 24 all even number wheel......

Wheel: Pick 6 Key 3 if 3 of 24

Tickets:  28

Description:  Minimum 3-number match, if 3 numbers drawn fall within your set of 24 numbers.

Input:  2, 4, 6, 8, 10, 12, 14, 16, 18, 20, 22, 24, 26, 28, 30, 32, 34, 36, 38, 40, 42, 44, 46, 48

1. 02-04-06-18-32-34
2. 02-04-08-26-30-42
3. 02-04-10-12-26-40
4. 02-04-14-22-28-48
5. 02-04-16-20-24-44
6. 02-04-36-38-42-46
7. 02-06-08-20-28-30
8. 02-06-10-14-16-36
9. 02-06-12-24-42-48
10. 02-06-20-28-38-40
11. 02-06-22-26-44-46
12. 02-08-10-12-30-40
13. 02-08-14-30-34-44
14. 02-08-16-30-46-48
15. 02-08-18-24-30-32
16. 02-08-22-30-36-38
17. 02-10-18-20-22-42
18. 02-10-24-28-34-46
19. 02-10-32-38-44-48
20. 02-12-14-20-32-46
21. 02-12-16-22-34-38
22. 02-12-18-28-36-44
23. 02-14-18-24-26-38
24. 02-14-34-40-42-44
25. 02-16-18-40-46-48
26. 02-16-26-28-32-42
27. 02-20-26-34-36-48
28. 02-22-24-32-36-40

Just out of curiosity I checked if that wheel had been played since OCL started, it would have costed \$28,784 and won \$2,738, about 10% of its cost which is normal for almost any strategy.

If it had been played the last 10 drawings when most of the winning numbers were even and all six were even one drawing, it would have costed \$280 and won \$96, about 30% of its cost which is better than normal but still in the hole.

* you don't need to buy more tickets, just buy a winning ticket *

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Just out of curiosity I checked if that wheel had been played since OCL started, it would have costed \$28,784 and won \$2,738, about 10% of its cost which is normal for almost any strategy.

If it had been played the last 10 drawings when most of the winning numbers were even and all six were even one drawing, it would have costed \$280 and won \$96, about 30% of its cost which is better than normal but still in the hole.

Thanks for checking RJ. I guess its good that it didn't hit in the past, because I was hoping for a little stroke of intuitive genius going forward even though I'm not going to play the numbers in any live drawings.

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Thanks for checking RJ. I guess its good that it didn't hit in the past, because I was hoping for a little stroke of intuitive genius going forward even though I'm not going to play the numbers in any live drawings.

Don't forget about luck, even when you're totally right and don't play all the possible combinations, luck is the unknown variable .  Saturday's winner could be in your wheel. (with a little luck)

* you don't need to buy more tickets, just buy a winning ticket *

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Good point, but with so few lines I'm almost inclined to play QP in hopes of just pure luck. My local pick 5 game is up to \$400k so I picked up 10 QP lines today.

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Looks like OCL is trending toward all even numbers.

Draw Date  Results
Wed, Aug 14, 201311-14-16-28-36-48?Prize Payouts
Mon, Aug 12, 201302-16-20-23-34-38?Prize Payouts
Sat, Aug 10, 201312-18-19-22-27-34?Prize Payouts
Wed, Aug 7, 201308-30-32-34-38-49?Prize Payouts
Mon, Aug 5, 201301-21-29-33-38-42?Prize Payouts
Sat, Aug 3, 201314-16-18-28-36-38?Prize Payouts
Wed, Jul 31, 201302-11-27-40-48-49?Prize Payouts
Mon, Jul 29, 201306-11-12-19-21-36?Prize Payouts
Sat, Jul 27, 201305-14-22-36-44-45?Prize Payouts
Wed, Jul 24, 201303-16-25-36-40-44?Prize Payouts

Something else that would suit your style of play, all the winning numbers in the last drawing had hit in the previos six drawings.

Draw Date  Results
Wed, Aug 14, 201311-14-16-28-36-48?Prize Payouts
Mon, Aug 12, 201302-16-20-23-34-38?Prize Payouts
Sat, Aug 10, 201312-18-19-22-27-34?Prize Payouts
Wed, Aug 7, 201308-30-32-34-38-49?Prize Payouts
Mon, Aug 5, 201301-21-29-33-38-42?Prize Payouts
Sat, Aug 3, 201314-16-18-28-36-38?Prize Payouts
Wed, Jul 31, 201302-11-27-40-48-49?Prize Payouts
Mon, Jul 29, 201306-11-12-19-21-36?Prize Payouts
Sat, Jul 27, 201305-14-22-36-44-45?Prize Payouts
Wed, Jul 24, 201303-16-25-36-40-44?Prize Payouts

* you don't need to buy more tickets, just buy a winning ticket *

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Something else that would suit your style of play, all the winning numbers in the last drawing had hit in the previos six drawings.

Draw Date  Results
Wed, Aug 14, 201311-14-16-28-36-48?Prize Payouts
Mon, Aug 12, 201302-16-20-23-34-38?Prize Payouts
Sat, Aug 10, 201312-18-19-22-27-34?Prize Payouts
Wed, Aug 7, 201308-30-32-34-38-49?Prize Payouts
Mon, Aug 5, 201301-21-29-33-38-42?Prize Payouts
Sat, Aug 3, 201314-16-18-28-36-38?Prize Payouts
Wed, Jul 31, 201302-11-27-40-48-49?Prize Payouts
Mon, Jul 29, 201306-11-12-19-21-36?Prize Payouts
Sat, Jul 27, 201305-14-22-36-44-45?Prize Payouts
Wed, Jul 24, 201303-16-25-36-40-44?Prize Payouts

Good point, the winners were in the last 26 drawn numbers.

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I don't know but if they can I would like to be the first to prove it.

I'll give you credit RJOH for asking a question that got the masses up in arms enough to reply 461 times in 2 days haha.  It would be like going to a pro wrestling forum and asking "Is Pro Wrestling real?" lol.   CONGRATS!

Don't forget to visit the Lottery Post Gift Shop!

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I'm playing a 24 all even number wheel......

Wheel: Pick 6 Key 3 if 3 of 24

Tickets:  28

Description:  Minimum 3-number match, if 3 numbers drawn fall within your set of 24 numbers.

Input:  2, 4, 6, 8, 10, 12, 14, 16, 18, 20, 22, 24, 26, 28, 30, 32, 34, 36, 38, 40, 42, 44, 46, 48

1. 02-04-06-18-32-34
2. 02-04-08-26-30-42
3. 02-04-10-12-26-40
4. 02-04-14-22-28-48
5. 02-04-16-20-24-44
6. 02-04-36-38-42-46
7. 02-06-08-20-28-30
8. 02-06-10-14-16-36
9. 02-06-12-24-42-48
10. 02-06-20-28-38-40
11. 02-06-22-26-44-46
12. 02-08-10-12-30-40
13. 02-08-14-30-34-44
14. 02-08-16-30-46-48
15. 02-08-18-24-30-32
16. 02-08-22-30-36-38
17. 02-10-18-20-22-42
18. 02-10-24-28-34-46
19. 02-10-32-38-44-48
20. 02-12-14-20-32-46
21. 02-12-16-22-34-38
22. 02-12-18-28-36-44
23. 02-14-18-24-26-38
24. 02-14-34-40-42-44
25. 02-16-18-40-46-48
26. 02-16-26-28-32-42
27. 02-20-26-34-36-48
28. 02-22-24-32-36-40

I just ran a 4 if 4 of 25 number wheel and it has 1227 combinations. Considering the size of the jackpot and the secondary \$1500 prize, it might not be a bad bet.

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I'll give you credit RJOH for asking a question that got the masses up in arms enough to reply 461 times in 2 days haha.  It would be like going to a pro wrestling forum and asking "Is Pro Wrestling real?" lol.   CONGRATS!

Does this mean you are a Danial Brian fan?

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