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Is it immoral to work if you've won enough to not work?

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Do you think it is immoral to work if you've won enough to not work?

It is immoral [ 4 ]  [10.53%]
It is not immoral. [ 30 ]  [78.95%]
It's moral! (Either to work or to work if you won) [ 4 ]  [10.53%]
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Posted: December 8, 2013, 8:23 pm - IP Logged

I didn't say I wanted to do something that the government is preventing me from doing. I said some people want a nanny government to hold their hand and tell what, when, and how to do everything in their lives.

And there are many, including me,that want government out of our lives, just let us live free. Government's job is to protect citizens from outside forces, armies, and in short, uphold the constitution. The founding fathers never intended for government to become a nanny state. I'll go so far as to say that we are on a slippery slope to becoming a socialist society. The government wants to control everything.

Here is one example, then I'm shutting up.

My oldest daughter is 31. When she started off to college, we took out loans with a private lender. When she got married she took her own loans out with a private lender. Eight years later my other daughter went off to college, and I filed her FAFSA, and lo and behold, the student loans are done through the federal government. Oh, we could go out and secure a loan with a private lender, but the government subsidized loans at a lower rate, thereby squeezing out private lenders. Same thing with my son who is now in college. 

The federal government wants complete control over every aspect of our lives. To the point that the federal government has resorted to spying on its own citizens with datamining cell phone calls, and drones, and God knows what else. I resent that. And I don't want to hear that crap about if I'm not doing anything wrong, I have nothing to worry about. Yeah, we all have something to worry about. And it ain't the Tea Party.

Again you keep saying your not free and Im asking you what freedoms are you not able to enjoy? Also I cant believe you are complaining that the govt loan has a lower rate but you still took advantage of it...If the govt is doing something wrong by squeezing out competitors  in other words free market, why did you even apply for the govt loan?? Why? cause it was cheaper that's why...nobody twisted your arm and said hey you have to accept this loan...it like Walmart squeezing out all the mom and pops, we're not going to stop that are noooo cause they're just trying to run a business right, by the govt having lower rates make other lenders have to readjust their rate so they can compete and who wins...We do...So if you resent the govt dont comply with it...I mean other than paying taxes (your not getting around that), go off grid, get rid of your phone and car (you got to register it, pay taxes on it etc), house (same as car) go live in a cave somewhere...or just go to Mexico...We have nothing to worry about but the tea party extremist who just want to get their way and we wont let them

    sully16's avatar - sharan
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    Posted: December 8, 2013, 8:58 pm - IP Logged

    You said they set up a website in California, hello,

    People in the millions are losing there insurance and doctors, nobody needs to lie.

    Third, I work part time by choice, I don't have to work at all, hehehehehehehehehehehehe

     HyperBe Happy.


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      Posted: December 8, 2013, 9:04 pm - IP Logged

      You said they set up a website in California, hello,

      People in the millions are losing there insurance and doctors, nobody needs to lie.

      Third, I work part time by choice, I don't have to work at all, hehehehehehehehehehehehe

      Nobody needs to lie...but they are...they are telling lies about the ACA everyday...Yes people lost their insurance because it did not meet the minimum standards of the new law i.e. basic coverage...So you are working by choice and you dont need to work at all, so how many jobs do your old man have to support you two?

        helpmewin's avatar - dandy
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        Posted: December 8, 2013, 9:06 pm - IP Logged

        This feels appropriate...

        What do you want me to do? LEAVE? Then they'll keep being wrong!

        http://xkcd.com/

        Green laughThat's CUTE

        Let it Snow Snowman

          sully16's avatar - sharan
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          Posted: December 8, 2013, 9:07 pm - IP Logged

          Nobody needs to lie...but they are...they are telling lies about the ACA everyday...Yes people lost their insurance because it did not meet the minimum standards of the new law i.e. basic coverage...So you are working by choice and you dont need to work at all, so how many jobs do your old man have to support you two?

          hehehehehehehehehehehehe

          Not taking the bait.

           HyperBe Happy.


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            Posted: December 8, 2013, 9:21 pm - IP Logged

            hehehehehehehehehehehehe

            Not taking the bait.

            Oh Im not trying to bait you at all...LOL

              Artist77's avatar - batman14

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              Posted: December 8, 2013, 9:26 pm - IP Logged

              hehehehehehehehehehehehe

              Not taking the bait.

              yea he is infamous for trying to start fights.

              J'aime La France.


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                Posted: December 8, 2013, 9:29 pm - IP Logged

                yea he is infamous for trying to start fights.

                Unlike yourself...right??

                  sully16's avatar - sharan
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                  Posted: December 8, 2013, 9:42 pm - IP Logged

                  yea he is infamous for trying to start fights.

                  sad really.

                   HyperBe Happy.

                    sully16's avatar - sharan
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                    Posted: December 8, 2013, 9:46 pm - IP Logged

                    yea he is infamous for trying to start fights.

                    I'll just block him.

                     HyperBe Happy.

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                      Posted: December 8, 2013, 9:58 pm - IP Logged

                      I'll just block him.

                      Hey Sully- kind of feel like a pesky fly hovering around you doesn't it? I simply shake my head and chuckle.

                      ** Some people fulfill their dreams by receiving entitlements from the Government while others wake up and work hard for it! **

                        sully16's avatar - sharan
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                        Posted: December 8, 2013, 10:07 pm - IP Logged

                        Hey Sully- kind of feel like a pesky fly hovering around you doesn't it? I simply shake my head and chuckle.

                        lol, grain of salt.

                         HyperBe Happy.

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                          Posted: December 10, 2013, 4:58 am - IP Logged

                          What was da question again?

                          "Any hit is a good hit!  get 'em, get 'em, get 'em!  I'm gonna Hit 2 nite Smash!!!"

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                            Posted: December 10, 2013, 8:48 am - IP Logged

                            Again you keep saying your not free and Im asking you what freedoms are you not able to enjoy? Also I cant believe you are complaining that the govt loan has a lower rate but you still took advantage of it...If the govt is doing something wrong by squeezing out competitors  in other words free market, why did you even apply for the govt loan?? Why? cause it was cheaper that's why...nobody twisted your arm and said hey you have to accept this loan...it like Walmart squeezing out all the mom and pops, we're not going to stop that are noooo cause they're just trying to run a business right, by the govt having lower rates make other lenders have to readjust their rate so they can compete and who wins...We do...So if you resent the govt dont comply with it...I mean other than paying taxes (your not getting around that), go off grid, get rid of your phone and car (you got to register it, pay taxes on it etc), house (same as car) go live in a cave somewhere...or just go to Mexico...We have nothing to worry about but the tea party extremist who just want to get their way and we wont let them

                            If the TPP goes through, they get their way. There will be NO government to get in their way. Everything will be decided by a tribunal of rich companies. The three folks will decide EVERYTHING. Minimum wage? NO. Pay rates will be global. You have to compete with Vietnam wages. .25 per hour. They want your land. Too bad they get it. Get sick. No money no treatment. No generic drugs, because they have to protect the profits of the drug companies. Die we don't care. They will be fighting each other like rats. Money in the bank? Sorry, the bank is closed, too bad. Now what are you going to buy your food with? Oh, the food was infected, too bad. There was lead in the food, too bad. Try to pass a law to stop them, the government gets sued. Going to attack them? At .25 per hour can buy a big army. They control the gas. And all the fuels.  They got you... 

                            >go off grid

                            They know NOTHING about off the grid. So reliant on the outside. At least I realize that I am now.

                            They pound down the people that do things for them. I don't think that they can do ANYTHING on their own.

                              rdgrnr's avatar - walt
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                              Posted: December 10, 2013, 10:25 am - IP Logged

                              If the TPP goes through, they get their way. There will be NO government to get in their way. Everything will be decided by a tribunal of rich companies. The three folks will decide EVERYTHING. Minimum wage? NO. Pay rates will be global. You have to compete with Vietnam wages. .25 per hour. They want your land. Too bad they get it. Get sick. No money no treatment. No generic drugs, because they have to protect the profits of the drug companies. Die we don't care. They will be fighting each other like rats. Money in the bank? Sorry, the bank is closed, too bad. Now what are you going to buy your food with? Oh, the food was infected, too bad. There was lead in the food, too bad. Try to pass a law to stop them, the government gets sued. Going to attack them? At .25 per hour can buy a big army. They control the gas. And all the fuels.  They got you... 

                              >go off grid

                              They know NOTHING about off the grid. So reliant on the outside. At least I realize that I am now.

                              They pound down the people that do things for them. I don't think that they can do ANYTHING on their own.

                              I agree, we have to get the Democrats out of there.

                                 
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