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I did a search looking for What LP members regard as the Basics of a Successful (Wining) System.  All I got was Instructions on how the LP Forum System works.  Here is my question.

What are those basics? 

  1.  Profitable (The only thing that matters)
  2. Simple, Easily Repeated, Based on Manipulation?
  3. Simple, Easily Repeated, Based on Observation?
  4. Works in all Number Games in all States?

Feel free to add to or delete from the list.

Anyone think they are close?

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    I would like to suggest that the 'profitable' angle is basically a myth, an unattainable goal, something to justify spending and losing money.
    If anyone has found a way to win often enough to justify quitting their day job, the details will never be posted in a public forum.
    There are no such systems, in my opinion, of course.
    It's called 'gambling' where the majority wins some, loose a lot.
    If everyone won all the time, the lottery would go broke and we would be busy pitching horseshoes or be involved in some other non-life threatening activity.
    Your other 3 objectives are attainable, given that a lot of folks use methods that win - now and then.
    All one needs is imagination and dedication.
    Providing precise instructions on how a workout works is a challenging task.
    Those that try, including myself, usually get laughed out of the room.
    I've provided some basic details about a system that wins - now and then - but that's apparently isn't enough.
    Too bad.
    Good luck with your search.

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      I did a search looking for What LP members regard as the Basics of a Successful (Wining) System.  All I got was Instructions on how the LP Forum System works.  Here is my question.

      What are those basics? 

      1.  Profitable (The only thing that matters)
      2. Simple, Easily Repeated, Based on Manipulation?
      3. Simple, Easily Repeated, Based on Observation?
      4. Works in all Number Games in all States?

      Feel free to add to or delete from the list.

      Anyone think they are close?

      In my opinion, a winning lottery system should include some form of wagering strategy.  I would opt for a progressive wagering strategy, betting more $$ on fewer numbers [like 2 - 3 numbers only in Pick 3 (preferably DOUBLES)] over a period of time.  I play Pick 3 STRAIGHT or STRAIGHT/BOXED.  You can't really Profit in Pick 3, unless you are playing STRAIGHT.  I play Pick 4 BOXED [5 numbers (preferably DOUBLES)], for $2 each.  When you build up your winnings this way, you will eventually have enough $$$ to spare to bet $20 STRAIGHT on a single Pick 4 number , that you "feel" strongly about, for a $100,000 win in Pick 4. [This is my ultimate objective].  The only way that I have discovered to come close to a STRAIGHT WIN in Pick 4 is by tracking Pick 4 VTRACs .

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        In my opinion, a winning lottery system should include some form of wagering strategy.  I would opt for a progressive wagering strategy, betting more $$ on fewer numbers [like 2 - 3 numbers only in Pick 3 (preferably DOUBLES)] over a period of time.  I play Pick 3 STRAIGHT or STRAIGHT/BOXED.  You can't really Profit in Pick 3, unless you are playing STRAIGHT.  I play Pick 4 BOXED [5 numbers (preferably DOUBLES)], for $2 each.  When you build up your winnings this way, you will eventually have enough $$$ to spare to bet $20 STRAIGHT on a single Pick 4 number , that you "feel" strongly about, for a $100,000 win in Pick 4. [This is my ultimate objective].  The only way that I have discovered to come close to a STRAIGHT WIN in Pick 4 is by tracking Pick 4 VTRACs .

        Do you think a System should tell you when Not to Play

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          I would like to suggest that the 'profitable' angle is basically a myth, an unattainable goal, something to justify spending and losing money.
          If anyone has found a way to win often enough to justify quitting their day job, the details will never be posted in a public forum.
          There are no such systems, in my opinion, of course.
          It's called 'gambling' where the majority wins some, loose a lot.
          If everyone won all the time, the lottery would go broke and we would be busy pitching horseshoes or be involved in some other non-life threatening activity.
          Your other 3 objectives are attainable, given that a lot of folks use methods that win - now and then.
          All one needs is imagination and dedication.
          Providing precise instructions on how a workout works is a challenging task.
          Those that try, including myself, usually get laughed out of the room.
          I've provided some basic details about a system that wins - now and then - but that's apparently isn't enough.
          Too bad.
          Good luck with your search.

          Thanks bobby623,  I am Enjoying the Search.

          I believe that there are answers to be found in Observation if one can find the right Focal Point.  I spent a lot of time trying to manipulate the numbers.  Along the way, I wondered what those manipulations looked like back in time.  I am still Searching only now I am just looking.

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            Posted: June 7, 2016, 1:22 pm - IP Logged

            repeatability 

            Stack your single digits bets,waiting for double or higher pounce  opportunities...when you  get  the  opportunity to  pounce...kill it hard 

            Relax,Bigdaddy has your number!!!!!

            Pi is the way...

            turning $30 or less into thousands everyday!!

            here we go steelers ..here we go---------stairway to seven 

            TIME FOR THE LOMBARDI TROPHY TO  COME  HOME..

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              Thanks bobby623,  I am Enjoying the Search.

              I believe that there are answers to be found in Observation if one can find the right Focal Point.  I spent a lot of time trying to manipulate the numbers.  Along the way, I wondered what those manipulations looked like back in time.  I am still Searching only now I am just looking.

              Sounds like you are trying to 'reverse engineer' the lottery machines.
              Folks have been trying to do that ever since the games started, without much success.
              I use to do that, but not anymore.
              I use the winning integers to drive my workout in ways that show trends, which, in my opinion, is the only way
              to attack a very difficult problem.
              It's guesswork, pure and simple.

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                Do you think a System should tell you when Not to Play

                A Lottery System indicates when Not To Play either (a) by your own lottery intuition that develops over time, or (b) the patterns in your lottery indicate the timing is off, or (c) "Triggers" have not occurred that would indicate that now is the time to play, or (d) you can't afford to play at the moment - you have spent too much $$$ already chasing numbers - time to give it a break for a while.

                You should never chase after a group of numbers for too long !!!

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                  A Lottery System indicates when Not To Play either (a) by your own lottery intuition that develops over time, or (b) the patterns in your lottery indicate the timing is off, or (c) "Triggers" have not occurred that would indicate that now is the time to play, or (d) you can't afford to play at the moment - you have spent too much $$$ already chasing numbers - time to give it a break for a while.

                  You should never chase after a group of numbers for too long !!!

                  Agreed on that..it also provides for  opportunities to  reduce  to 1 or 2 numbers that's when I  hit it hard like $15 on a number  combo play

                  Relax,Bigdaddy has your number!!!!!

                  Pi is the way...

                  turning $30 or less into thousands everyday!!

                  here we go steelers ..here we go---------stairway to seven 

                  TIME FOR THE LOMBARDI TROPHY TO  COME  HOME..

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                    Sounds like you are trying to 'reverse engineer' the lottery machines.
                    Folks have been trying to do that ever since the games started, without much success.
                    I use to do that, but not anymore.
                    I use the winning integers to drive my workout in ways that show trends, which, in my opinion, is the only way
                    to attack a very difficult problem.
                    It's guesswork, pure and simple.

                    Sounds like you are trying to 'reverse engineer' the lottery machines.

                    No, I to used to do that, but not anymore.  I am suggesting that the collective WE has not looked at everything Yet.  I am also suggesting that WE spend to much time looking at the Draw Numbers and not enough time digging deeper into all of the possible Data.  I am suggesting that there is a whole bunch of Data that has not been generated and therefore, ignored. An therein lie Patterns that can be exploited for Profit.

                    Guessing?  Yes.  Educated Guess? (Getting there).  Will it make Money? We will See.

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                      Sounds like you are trying to 'reverse engineer' the lottery machines.

                      No, I to used to do that, but not anymore.  I am suggesting that the collective WE has not looked at everything Yet.  I am also suggesting that WE spend to much time looking at the Draw Numbers and not enough time digging deeper into all of the possible Data.  I am suggesting that there is a whole bunch of Data that has not been generated and therefore, ignored. An therein lie Patterns that can be exploited for Profit.

                      Guessing?  Yes.  Educated Guess? (Getting there).  Will it make Money? We will See.

                      You are correct - there's something going on that isn't being exploited by folks who enjoy playing the lottery analysis game.
                      My opinion is that the unknowns are not being discovered and processed because it's not a solid substance, so to speak, as the
                      lottery balls are.
                      This is where the power of substitution comes into play.
                      I know something is going on but I can't measure it or use it to my advantage.
                      I get around this problem by using my imagination, making some rational assumptions and assigning values to the suspects.
                      I don't need to know what the processes are and even if  I did, they don't pay.
                      As a result, I reduce a game down to a minimum of 3 different sections, create and maintain tracking charts and use the clues in resulting
                      data strings to make my best guesses on what might happen next.
                      Fortunately, my assumptions and value assignment are valid so long as the game I'm playing goes unchanged.
                      The games are  played in a box with fixed dimensions, called a matrix.
                      If the matrix changes, then all bets are off and new values must be assigned.
                      Some folks are smart enough to managed the odds and probabilities of this or that happening in the box.
                      Unfortunately, everything goes out the window when the mixing vessel goes to work.
                      This is why it's possible for 666 to come up in back-to-back Pick 3 drawings.
                      According to probability of the game, this shouldn't happen, and is a good reason why folks who play the odds and probabilities cards
                      are often frustrated.
                      "Those darn machines just aren't doing what they are supposed to!!!    lol
                      I think I said it earlier - imagination and dedication.
                      You are wrong about the draw numbers. They are the keys to winning. You just have to manage them in ways that provide
                      rationale results, which, by the way, in my opinion, must be done with minimal use of mathematics.
                      Have a good one!

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                        You are correct - there's something going on that isn't being exploited by folks who enjoy playing the lottery analysis game.
                        My opinion is that the unknowns are not being discovered and processed because it's not a solid substance, so to speak, as the
                        lottery balls are.
                        This is where the power of substitution comes into play.
                        I know something is going on but I can't measure it or use it to my advantage.
                        I get around this problem by using my imagination, making some rational assumptions and assigning values to the suspects.
                        I don't need to know what the processes are and even if  I did, they don't pay.
                        As a result, I reduce a game down to a minimum of 3 different sections, create and maintain tracking charts and use the clues in resulting
                        data strings to make my best guesses on what might happen next.
                        Fortunately, my assumptions and value assignment are valid so long as the game I'm playing goes unchanged.
                        The games are  played in a box with fixed dimensions, called a matrix.
                        If the matrix changes, then all bets are off and new values must be assigned.
                        Some folks are smart enough to managed the odds and probabilities of this or that happening in the box.
                        Unfortunately, everything goes out the window when the mixing vessel goes to work.
                        This is why it's possible for 666 to come up in back-to-back Pick 3 drawings.
                        According to probability of the game, this shouldn't happen, and is a good reason why folks who play the odds and probabilities cards
                        are often frustrated.
                        "Those darn machines just aren't doing what they are supposed to!!!    lol
                        I think I said it earlier - imagination and dedication.
                        You are wrong about the draw numbers. They are the keys to winning. You just have to manage them in ways that provide
                        rationale results, which, by the way, in my opinion, must be done with minimal use of mathematics.
                        Have a good one!

                        What about Outside of the Box?  Think of the Ball Machine or the Random Generator as a Sun Randomly spreading it's light over Lotto World.  Think about tracking where the Light Strikes.  You know, Stuff outside of the Box (matrix). 

                        Having a Good One, Thank You

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                          Do you think a System should tell you when Not to Play

                          Elimination is selection. Eliminate 5 from 50 numbers with success, and you are statistically speaking much closer to winning tickets.

                          Is there one recipe to make pancakes, waffles and doughnuts? Is there one system to win all games?

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                            My angle is profits, play heavy on the favorite number and cover your bases with small amounts. Pick 3.

                            Did you exchange a walk on part in the war ?

                            For a lead role in a cage?

                             

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                              My angle is profits, play heavy on the favorite number and cover your bases with small amounts. Pick 3.

                              Profits, Always.

                              So a Good system is a "Favorite" Selector and Wagering Strategy.  Both are Basics of a Good System. 

                              Do you think a System (Your System) could make the decisions itself and Win?  By Decisions, I mean Output based on your Formulas, Filters and Observations?

                                 
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