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If it had taken 6 draws to win, it would be $16 played for each of the 20 box pick 3 numbers played so:

$80 X 16 $1280 won on 6 draws played minus $470 dollars played on the 6 draws played:

Equals perhaps $810 profit made on 6 draws played.

Not bad at all for winning just 1 time on 6 draws played.

Is there anybody now who doesn't yet understand how progressive betting works?

I am tired it is possible that on this particular post a mistake was made or maybe not.

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Maybe $135 made on each of the 6 draws played.

Maybe $135 X 6 = $810 Total Profit Made for all 6 draws played.

Who says that you can't make a ton of money in this way? You made that in just 1 week.

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    I am simply astonished with how Pick3 software has advanced while the basic game, in general, hasn't changed one bit. How is it that a simple 0-9 game became the focal point of alleged rocket science? Look, I sincerely mean no harm at all but, Pi has absolutely no place in any pick game...it's overkill. Again, I mean no harm.

    apparently someone hasn't seen the  results I'm getting in TN..pi  is a simple  equation 

    Relax,Bigdaddy has your number!!!!!

    Pi is the way...

    turning $30 or less into thousands everyday!!

    here we go steelers ..here we go---------stairway to seven 

    TIME FOR THE LOMBARDI TROPHY TO  COME  HOME..

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      No!

      With progressive betting the longer the more profit made in the end.

      But you need a huge bankroll.

      I was taught from a long time ago that the progressive wagering purpose is NOT necessarily to make a huge profit when you win, but rather an insurance program which guarantees a profit. 

      Basically you're wagering more money with every loss to cover the total cost of the previous wagers in order to make a profit, no matter how small.

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        I was taught from a long time ago that the progressive wagering purpose is NOT necessarily to make a huge profit when you win, but rather an insurance program which guarantees a profit. 

        Basically you're wagering more money with every loss to cover the total cost of the previous wagers in order to make a profit, no matter how small.

        amber123

        It all depends on your particular progressive betting technique.

        The normal regular progressive betting technique that I showed you all here, not only will make sure that you don't lose any money at all, but that the longer that it takes for you to win the more of a profit that you will make, if it takes you 10 draws to win, you then will make a very huge profit.

        Do read my posts very slowly and see, it is a very easy technique to use, there is nothing hard to it, the only downside to it, it is that you need a huge bankroll to start with.

        Other than that it is a very easy technique to use.

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          I was taught from a long time ago that the progressive wagering purpose is NOT necessarily to make a huge profit when you win, but rather an insurance program which guarantees a profit. 

          Basically you're wagering more money with every loss to cover the total cost of the previous wagers in order to make a profit, no matter how small.

          I progressive bet to set myself up for a combo play killing..I rarely miss in TN..

          I angle my wagering to keep it as tax free as possible..I  still  get 1099g's to file.but my $600 or less  wins more than make up for the  taxes  paid.

          Relax,Bigdaddy has your number!!!!!

          Pi is the way...

          turning $30 or less into thousands everyday!!

          here we go steelers ..here we go---------stairway to seven 

          TIME FOR THE LOMBARDI TROPHY TO  COME  HOME..

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            I was taught from a long time ago that the progressive wagering purpose is NOT necessarily to make a huge profit when you win, but rather an insurance program which guarantees a profit. 

            Basically you're wagering more money with every loss to cover the total cost of the previous wagers in order to make a profit, no matter how small.

            Once you know how often it takes for you to win in a more or less regular way and also depends on how and in what you are playing.

            You taylor make your progressive betting technique to suit your own personal requirements.

            It would not be exactly the same for everybody.

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              amber123

              It all depends on your particular progressive betting technique.

              The normal regular progressive betting technique that I showed you all here, not only will make sure that you don't lose any money at all, but that the longer that it takes for you to win the more of a profit that you will make, if it takes you 10 draws to win, you then will make a very huge profit.

              Do read my posts very slowly and see, it is a very easy technique to use, there is nothing hard to it, the only downside to it, it is that you need a huge bankroll to start with.

              Other than that it is a very easy technique to use.

              I agree, the one you're using is a modified version of the contemporary one most people use, which is making a little profit over the insured period.

              It's simple to modify it by tripling or quadrupling the bets after each loss, and yes, it does take a very large bankroll in case there's a long dry period, but most people don't have that much expendable income, or if they do, they still won't use that money because of the inherent risk of gambling. In p-3 pr p-4 for example, there are no house limits, but if you apply your method to casino games, most have a cap on how large your bet can be, but that's another story.

              Personally speaking, I don't have tens of thousands of venture capital at my disposal to make such risky investments, especially after everything I wrote earlier in this thread about Florida's almost criminal activity of pre and post testing.

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                I progressive bet to set myself up for a combo play killing..I rarely miss in TN..

                I angle my wagering to keep it as tax free as possible..I  still  get 1099g's to file.but my $600 or less  wins more than make up for the  taxes  paid.

                All income is taxable, even below 600 bucks. Even if you walk your neighbor's dog once a month for 10 bucks, it's taxable. All types of income regardless of the amount.

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                  20 Box pick 3 numbers.

                  Start with $10 (50 cents per each number) and if you don't win:

                  Now play $20 and if you don't win: $1 per each pick 3 number.

                  Now play $40 and f you don't win: $2 for each pick 3 number.

                  Now play $80 and if you don't win: $4 for each pick 3 number.

                  Now play $160 and if you won this time: $8 for each pick 3 number played.

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                  $310 Bet there those are the loses what it cost to play for those 5 draws played.

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                  160 / 20 = 8 Times Won Box = $80 X 8 = $640.00 made.

                  8 X $80 = $640 Won:

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                  $640 - $310 = $330 Profit Made On All The Five Draws Played

                  That is The Total Profit Made.

                  Are We O.K. Now?

                  Disregard last message, I need to reapply the math. I'm accustomed to playing straight and failed to account for the state payout...and then, I'm online and not local state.

                  Small games, frequent wins, and regular payouts 'cause.....

                  There are seven days in the week...'Someday' isn't one of them.

                  #lotto-4-a-living

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                     I have a good 'system' but  pre-test on their part is  messing me up ! Really?

                    The premise of any lottery matrix is 'randomness', you can slice and dice any data with all made-up parameters, the premise remains.

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                      20 Box pick 3 numbers.

                      Start with $10 (50 cents per each number) and if you don't win:

                      Now play $20 and if you don't win: $1 per each pick 3 number.

                      Now play $40 and f you don't win: $2 for each pick 3 number.

                      Now play $80 and if you don't win: $4 for each pick 3 number.

                      Now play $160 and if you won this time: $8 for each pick 3 number played.

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                      $310 Bet there those are the loses what it cost to play for those 5 draws played.

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                      160 / 20 = 8 Times Won Box = $80 X 8 = $640.00 made.

                      8 X $80 = $640 Won:

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                      $640 - $310 = $330 Profit Made On All The Five Draws Played

                      That is The Total Profit Made.

                      Are We O.K. Now?

                      MonEl, I'm ready. Like Mulder said on The X Files, "I want to believe." Would you please oblige me in organizing a set of (20) Box Pick 3 numbers and applying your progressive strategy on any state of your choice with live draws? We can both work the math elements in order to see if correct math is, in fact, being applied. This will also help identify my 'repeatability duration' requirement if needed as this is an investment-based time study we are conducting. I hope you will help me out here 'cause it's so much better when you can actually show people. Thanks!

                      Small games, frequent wins, and regular payouts 'cause.....

                      There are seven days in the week...'Someday' isn't one of them.

                      #lotto-4-a-living

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                        Generally lottery is not about numbers, there could be pictures on those balls. It is more about mechanics of the rotational movement, the way balls get magnetised due to different shapes and amount of paint on them depicting numbers. The soup of magnetic waves, perhaps controlled by it's direct surrounding ( the place  the game takes place) and the weather, especially strong magnetic fields during thunderstorm, lightning and other natural conditions. Those can provide some patterns. Also, planets, like Mars, coming closer to Earth can stir some repetition. The movement of Earth around Sun, solstices, lunar phases.

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                          In my original post here I listed 4 suggested Standards. 1 Profitable; 2 Simple, Repeatable based on Manipulation; 3 Simple, Repeatable based on Observation and 4 Works in all Number Games (I meant single digit Pick 3 and 4) in all States.  Focusing on 2 and 3, Either or both are the guts of most systems (processes).  I intentionally separated them and stated that I was now an Observer and not a Manipulator. 

                          I do not discount in any way Manipulation; but, to go there you really need to know what you are doing or you just shoot in the dark and hit something that lights up once in a while. If it hits you get a run of Ata-Boys here until the next idea brightens then flames out and is forgotten.  Your manipulation process starts to fall down the list unless it is working or other members are inspired and continue to talk about it because it works for them.  I have manipulated.  Excel has allowed me to recreate many of the manipulations suggested here.  Along the way it has struck me many times to luck up and around.  To those that manipulate, I suggest that you keep a detailed history of your manipulations and their performance.  It will be the only thing that will allow for adjustments in the manipulation to sustain the process.

                           Mone, you said that the History does not Lie.  I absolutely agree. I understand that at the Orifice through which the next draw numbers emerge, there is no Back Pressure from the past; but, The past has the only clues to the future that might exist.  Think about it for a minute.  If you are adding, subtracting, substituting or manipulating the last draw numbers in any way, You have climbed onto the Comet and you are bouncing your ball there.  From inside the Ball bounces straight up and down; but, from outside (history) it follows a Wave pattern with wave length mostly depending on the speed of the Comet. 

                          I submit that the answer is in the History; but you have to look at the right history. I do not suggest that there is a single history 'Holy Grail" that is the Key.  In fact I believe that there are many histories wherein you find answers often enough to be profitable.

                          I also will say again that I do not believe that everything has already been looked at.  There is more history that contains answers and keys yet to be discovered.  If you think about Geologic Time, man is a Blip and the Lottery is barely a twinkle.  The more time the more history,  At least with Pick 3 and 4 Games we have had enough games to exceed the number of possible draws a few times.   Jackpot games with multiple digits per position are years away from completing 1 cycle.

                          It seems like you're looking for spot plays that are based on something that happened before and will happen in the future though they are usually only somewhat consistent. BobP's Power Trails are an example.

                          "I also will say again that I do not believe that everything has already been looked at.  There is more history that contains answers and keys yet to be discovered."

                          The KY Lottery live streams its pick-3 and pick-4 drawings and and currently has 1252 recordings in the archives. The only difference I can see are the digits that got to the top of tubes first. Any drawing history shows almost exactly what is expected; probability plus or minus standard deviation. Finding the digits that will be drawn more than probability seems to be what you're looking for and a system that can accurately and consistently do it will work in all states.

                          I won't bet against finding some of what you're looking for, but doubt you'll find everything.

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                            MonEl, I'm ready. Like Mulder said on The X Files, "I want to believe." Would you please oblige me in organizing a set of (20) Box Pick 3 numbers and applying your progressive strategy on any state of your choice with live draws? We can both work the math elements in order to see if correct math is, in fact, being applied. This will also help identify my 'repeatability duration' requirement if needed as this is an investment-based time study we are conducting. I hope you will help me out here 'cause it's so much better when you can actually show people. Thanks!

                            If you're not interested or unwilling to join me in this effort, I understand. What I can do is just use Texas for the example, since you did mention that state, and apply your strategy to the last (5) draws as mentioned. Should prove out either way.

                            Small games, frequent wins, and regular payouts 'cause.....

                            There are seven days in the week...'Someday' isn't one of them.

                            #lotto-4-a-living

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                              Generally lottery is not about numbers, there could be pictures on those balls. It is more about mechanics of the rotational movement, the way balls get magnetised due to different shapes and amount of paint on them depicting numbers. The soup of magnetic waves, perhaps controlled by it's direct surrounding ( the place  the game takes place) and the weather, especially strong magnetic fields during thunderstorm, lightning and other natural conditions. Those can provide some patterns. Also, planets, like Mars, coming closer to Earth can stir some repetition. The movement of Earth around Sun, solstices, lunar phases.

                              Sorry but:

                              Is this thread now degenerating?

                              Is it a circus now?

                                 
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