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Math Geniuses, Help!! "SLAG" Odd/Even Analysis - Chart I

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Here is the Raw Data For Ohio Rolling Cash 5

I am Tracking All Draws, 10 Draws and 5 Draws in the Chart and Graphs

The Graphs are the Adjusted Bias P ct - (E Ct x1.05)

Still trying to make sense of all of this. 

 

 

Hi Allen,

Presented nicely. 

If predicting an upcoming Even or Odd dominance in the next 3-5  draws with a success rate of 80%+ is possible by any means. That would be good to lock an Even or Odd dominance filter and work on other filters.

 

Good Luck

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    Hi Allen,

    Presented nicely. 

    If predicting an upcoming Even or Odd dominance in the next 3-5  draws with a success rate of 80%+ is possible by any means. That would be good to lock an Even or Odd dominance filter and work on other filters.

     

    Good Luck

    The All Chart suggests that the O_Ct will go down (eventually)

    The other Charts are misleading, I think, because as the 5 or 10 Block Slides forward dropping one value and adding another.

    I am going to try going back to a point and running forward from there. 

    Thinking 365, 100, 50 and 10

    Maybe there will be a visible trend that is the same in each graph.

    We Will See.

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      The All Chart suggests that the O_Ct will go down (eventually)

      The other Charts are misleading, I think, because as the 5 or 10 Block Slides forward dropping one value and adding another.

      I am going to try going back to a point and running forward from there. 

      Thinking 365, 100, 50 and 10

      Maybe there will be a visible trend that is the same in each graph.

      We Will See.

      Hi Allen

       

      Sounds good to me.

       

      Good Luck

        garyo1954's avatar - wallace
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        Been reading this post for a few days and got convinced to look at SLAG. Downloaded the demo. 
        Surprise! Looks like more than 90% is things we've discussed for years. Demo doesn't let you dig into the deeper stuff so maybe/probably/likely I'll end up purchasing it to see what's missing. 

        I do like the way it presents the data and the ability to switch charts on the fly. 
        Clean interface is nice as well. 

        I'm probably here unless I'm not.

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          Been reading this post for a few days and got convinced to look at SLAG. Downloaded the demo. 
          Surprise! Looks like more than 90% is things we've discussed for years. Demo doesn't let you dig into the deeper stuff so maybe/probably/likely I'll end up purchasing it to see what's missing. 

          I do like the way it presents the data and the ability to switch charts on the fly. 
          Clean interface is nice as well. 

          I recently reviewed multiple lottery applications and their features to purchase one or two for quick plays(beyond personal tracking) including Smart Luck and few others - especially ones that have survived even after many year.

           

          The one thing I noticed is that some are good and have lot of features but update/upgrade fees are charged for future versions.

           

          I wish they sell it with one cost(charge upgrade fee also as one time fee) and provide life time support.

           

          Good Luck

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            I recently reviewed multiple lottery applications and their features to purchase one or two for quick plays(beyond personal tracking) including Smart Luck and few others - especially ones that have survived even after many year.

             

            The one thing I noticed is that some are good and have lot of features but update/upgrade fees are charged for future versions.

             

            I wish they sell it with one cost(charge upgrade fee also as one time fee) and provide life time support.

             

            Good Luck

            Whichever tool or option is used, for Poweball and Megamillions at the end I  have 1000s(atleast 3000) - at times 10000-50000 combos to deal with which call for a key number or key pair or gap or similar that's some sort of pin pointing filter(narrow pass).

            This is even after choices like repeat number, most common filters.

             

            Good Luck

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              Been reading this post for a few days and got convinced to look at SLAG. Downloaded the demo. 
              Surprise! Looks like more than 90% is things we've discussed for years. Demo doesn't let you dig into the deeper stuff so maybe/probably/likely I'll end up purchasing it to see what's missing. 

              I do like the way it presents the data and the ability to switch charts on the fly. 
              Clean interface is nice as well. 

              The books have all information that the software shows 

               

              As long as We can write our own version of the statistics and filtering methodologies then even after the software goes out of market, We can independently use the methods and techniques.

               

              The terminology and approach used in Smart Luck suite is more of looking at lottery like stock. Stock and Lottery differ more.  Diving more into laid out methods and techniques might lead to some sort of perspective that lottery can be viewed similar to stocks.

               

              Good Luck

                Speler's avatar - me

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                Here is the Raw Data For Ohio Rolling Cash 5

                I am Tracking All Draws, 10 Draws and 5 Draws in the Chart and Graphs

                The Graphs are the Adjusted Bias P ct - (E Ct x1.05)

                Still trying to make sense of all of this. 

                 

                 

                Nice. I would have kept 0;1; for E;O; ...

                There is a game 1 to 36 and 5 balls drawn.
                You have a probability for 0|1 by position (nrs in ASC order).

                0174624189312188496187680202368
                1202368187680188496189312174624

                I didn't code this for p3 type straight, as I'm not really interested in pick 3.

                We also have such probabilities for straight pairs (subcombinations positional) and so on.

                Let's take straight 5. Match straight 5 to 0.

                00000856855080124848124848550808568
                000018568520201170961248486283211628
                0001011628597721179121170965895611628
                000118568520201179121248486201611628
                0010011628589561179121179125895611628
                0010111628558961109761170966589215504
                0011011628589561187281179125814011628
                001118568520201179121248486201611628
                0100011628589561170961179125977211628
                0100111628550801109761179126589215504
                0101015504620161109761109766201615504
                0101111628558961109761170966589215504
                0110011628581401179121187285895611628
                0110111628550801109761179126589215504
                0111011628589561179121179125895611628
                011118568520201170961248486283211628
                100001162862832124848117096520208568
                1000111628589561179121179125895611628
                1001015504658921179121109765508011628
                1001111628589561187281179125814011628
                1010015504658921170961109765589611628
                1010115504620161109761109766201615504
                1011015504658921179121109765508011628
                1011111628597721179121170965895611628
                110001162862016124848117912520208568
                1100111628581401179121187285895611628
                1101015504658921170961109765589611628
                1101111628589561179121179125895611628
                111001162862016124848117912520208568
                1110111628589561170961179125977211628
                111101162862832124848117096520208568
                11111856855080124848124848550808568
                  garyo1954's avatar - wallace
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                  The books have all information that the software shows 

                   

                  As long as We can write our own version of the statistics and filtering methodologies then even after the software goes out of market, We can independently use the methods and techniques.

                   

                  The terminology and approach used in Smart Luck suite is more of looking at lottery like stock. Stock and Lottery differ more.  Diving more into laid out methods and techniques might lead to some sort of perspective that lottery can be viewed similar to stocks.

                   

                  Good Luck

                  You're right. Reading the Advantage Gold User manual and tutorial now. 
                  We could replicate the program. 

                  It does seem the meat is in the books with little value in the software. The terminology is different, but not foreign. And it appears these guys have spent more time analyzing available data than trying to accumulate data. They found a sweet spot; a place they felt comfortable and worked from there. They did a good of staying on task and not getting carried away with every little detail that popped up. 

                  The backbone to the program, the data tables necessary to make calculations, are easy enough to write. I don't see anything (so far) that can't be done. 

                  So I'm looking at the books and I'd say you're right about that as well. 



                  G

                  I'm probably here unless I'm not.

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                    Nice. I would have kept 0;1; for E;O; ...

                    There is a game 1 to 36 and 5 balls drawn.
                    You have a probability for 0|1 by position (nrs in ASC order).

                    0174624189312188496187680202368
                    1202368187680188496189312174624

                    I didn't code this for p3 type straight, as I'm not really interested in pick 3.

                    We also have such probabilities for straight pairs (subcombinations positional) and so on.

                    Let's take straight 5. Match straight 5 to 0.

                    00000856855080124848124848550808568
                    000018568520201170961248486283211628
                    0001011628597721179121170965895611628
                    000118568520201179121248486201611628
                    0010011628589561179121179125895611628
                    0010111628558961109761170966589215504
                    0011011628589561187281179125814011628
                    001118568520201179121248486201611628
                    0100011628589561170961179125977211628
                    0100111628550801109761179126589215504
                    0101015504620161109761109766201615504
                    0101111628558961109761170966589215504
                    0110011628581401179121187285895611628
                    0110111628550801109761179126589215504
                    0111011628589561179121179125895611628
                    011118568520201170961248486283211628
                    100001162862832124848117096520208568
                    1000111628589561179121179125895611628
                    1001015504658921179121109765508011628
                    1001111628589561187281179125814011628
                    1010015504658921170961109765589611628
                    1010115504620161109761109766201615504
                    1011015504658921179121109765508011628
                    1011111628597721179121170965895611628
                    110001162862016124848117912520208568
                    1100111628581401179121187285895611628
                    1101015504658921170961109765589611628
                    1101111628589561179121179125895611628
                    111001162862016124848117912520208568
                    1110111628589561170961179125977211628
                    111101162862832124848117096520208568
                    11111856855080124848124848550808568

                    If I can get a history of that 5/36 Game it would be interesting to see those results.

                    So far Every Scenario seems to Favor the Odd Ball even after making the 5% adjustment (5/39)

                    I Do not understand any of what you posted after that.

                    It looks interesting but what is it?

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                      If I can get a history of that 5/36 Game it would be interesting to see those results.

                      So far Every Scenario seems to Favor the Odd Ball even after making the 5% adjustment (5/39)

                      I Do not understand any of what you posted after that.

                      It looks interesting but what is it?

                      Very simple:  list N(i)%2 and count (match=5).

                      00000856855080124848124848550808568
                      000018568520201170961248486283211628

                      2nd line: mod 2 array: [0 0 0 0 1] * 8568 

                      p(combin MOD 2 equals [0 0 0 0 1])= 8568 / combin(36;5)

                      That's far enough.

                      By experience nailing 2 positions 0 XOR 1 correctly makes the big wheel smaller and than the payout ratio is better.

                      Example: N2%2==0 and N3%2==1 as pattern is [? 0 1 ? ?].
                      Now you can look at the table. You take the sum of match 5 where the pattern equals the filter pattern. Divide by combin(36;5) and you get p. Without dividing you get the filtered set size.

                      If you have a sure method to nail some, 2 or 3, remainders in the correct position without error, then that is a big plus for your filtered set.

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                        You're right. Reading the Advantage Gold User manual and tutorial now. 
                        We could replicate the program. 

                        It does seem the meat is in the books with little value in the software. The terminology is different, but not foreign. And it appears these guys have spent more time analyzing available data than trying to accumulate data. They found a sweet spot; a place they felt comfortable and worked from there. They did a good of staying on task and not getting carried away with every little detail that popped up. 

                        The backbone to the program, the data tables necessary to make calculations, are easy enough to write. I don't see anything (so far) that can't be done. 

                        So I'm looking at the books and I'd say you're right about that as well. 



                        G

                        To me,, the software seems to be an addon provided earlier in the past along with the books and it has grown into this suite - wheel generator and advantage gold.

                        The book has been the base and the ideas of Gail Howard are all over the book.

                         

                        Good Luck

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                          If I can get a history of that 5/36 Game it would be interesting to see those results.

                          So far Every Scenario seems to Favor the Odd Ball even after making the 5% adjustment (5/39)

                          I Do not understand any of what you posted after that.

                          It looks interesting but what is it?

                          You might on occasion want to play 3 odd numbers. Proper timing and setting the positions for the odd numbers reduces the set of combinations considerably.

                          I occasionally used positional mod 2 filtering for a 5/39 game. Nailing 2 positions is already fine for me.

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                            To me,, the software seems to be an addon provided earlier in the past along with the books and it has grown into this suite - wheel generator and advantage gold.

                            The book has been the base and the ideas of Gail Howard are all over the book.

                             

                            Good Luck

                            Same here. The books go back to the turn of the millennium. The software (what I've seen) is dated 2015. I remember perdue saying they had an older DOS software as well. And I've seen some downloads for that. But to run that you'd have to install DOSbox. 

                            Last I saw perdue he was on another lottery forum getting a group together to learn the program. 

                            Considering you need the books to truly get a grip on the system, it makes more sense to order the book and build the modules yourself. Some reviews have noted the books are mostly ads to steer you to the software. So 6 of one; half a dozen of the other. 

                            Not sure the wheeling books are worth the cost. Bluskov's Combinatorial Lottery Systems is as probably as good and likely more up to date. And there's plenty of free wheels on the net.

                            I also seen people say having the hard copy in front of them is more help than a kindle version. And I agree. 
                            So yeah, I can see a couple of books coming in. And go from there. 

                            Most of the work is not getting sidetracked down the rabbit holes you come across while you work through it.


                            G

                            I'm probably here unless I'm not.

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                              Same here. The books go back to the turn of the millennium. The software (what I've seen) is dated 2015. I remember perdue saying they had an older DOS software as well. And I've seen some downloads for that. But to run that you'd have to install DOSbox. 

                              Last I saw perdue he was on another lottery forum getting a group together to learn the program. 

                              Considering you need the books to truly get a grip on the system, it makes more sense to order the book and build the modules yourself. Some reviews have noted the books are mostly ads to steer you to the software. So 6 of one; half a dozen of the other. 

                              Not sure the wheeling books are worth the cost. Bluskov's Combinatorial Lottery Systems is as probably as good and likely more up to date. And there's plenty of free wheels on the net.

                              I also seen people say having the hard copy in front of them is more help than a kindle version. And I agree. 
                              So yeah, I can see a couple of books coming in. And go from there. 

                              Most of the work is not getting sidetracked down the rabbit holes you come across while you work through it.


                              G

                              Hi Gary,

                              Yes I read Perdue's past threads. 

                              Lot of terminologies in the books. The sample videos and help content and text on their site have lot of terms and features unique to Gail Howard's ideas and techniques.  That's why when someone with Smart Luck knowledge asks a question not many know the terms. 

                              Good luck reading those books. Hope We can build something out of it.

                               

                              Thanks

                                 
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