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Oct 11, 2021, 7:20 pm

Quote: Originally posted by AllenB on Oct 11, 2021
Here is the Raw Data For Ohio Rolling Cash 5

I am Tracking All Draws, 10 Draws and 5 Draws in the Chart and Graphs

The Graphs are the Adjusted Bias P ct - (E Ct x1.05)

Still trying to make sense of all of this.

Hi Allen,

Presented nicely.

If predicting an upcoming Even or Odd dominance in the next 3-5 draws with a success rate of 80%+ is possible by any means. That would be good to lock an Even or Odd dominance filter and work on other filters.

Good Luck
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Oct 11, 2021, 8:32 pm

Quote: Originally posted by thamizhpayan on Oct 11, 2021
Hi Allen,

Presented nicely.

If predicting an upcoming Even or Odd dominance in the next 3-5 draws with a success rate of 80%+ is possible by any means. That would be good to lock an Even or Odd dominance filter and work on other filters.

Good Luck

The All Chart suggests that the O_Ct will go down (eventually)

The other Charts are misleading, I think, because as the 5 or 10 Block Slides forward dropping one value and adding another.

I am going to try going back to a point and running forward from there.

Thinking 365, 100, 50 and 10

Maybe there will be a visible trend that is the same in each graph.

We Will See.
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Oct 11, 2021, 9:01 pm

Quote: Originally posted by AllenB on Oct 11, 2021
The All Chart suggests that the O_Ct will go down (eventually)

The other Charts are misleading, I think, because as the 5 or 10 Block Slides forward dropping one value and adding another.

I am going to try going back to a point and running forward from there.

Thinking 365, 100, 50 and 10

Maybe there will be a visible trend that is the same in each graph.

We Will See.

Hi Allen

Sounds good to me.

Good Luck
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Been reading this post for a few days and got convinced to look at SLAG. Downloaded the demo.
Surprise! Looks like more than 90% is things we've discussed for years. Demo doesn't let you dig into the deeper stuff so maybe/probably/likely I'll end up purchasing it to see what's missing.

I do like the way it presents the data and the ability to switch charts on the fly.
Clean interface is nice as well.

G

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Quote: Originally posted by garyo1954 on Oct 11, 2021
Been reading this post for a few days and got convinced to look at SLAG. Downloaded the demo.
Surprise! Looks like more than 90% is things we've discussed for years. Demo doesn't let you dig into the deeper stuff so maybe/probably/likely I'll end up purchasing it to see what's missing.

I do like the way it presents the data and the ability to switch charts on the fly.
Clean interface is nice as well.

G

I recently reviewed multiple lottery applications and their features to purchase one or two for quick plays(beyond personal tracking) including Smart Luck and few others - especially ones that have survived even after many year.

The one thing I noticed is that some are good and have lot of features but update/upgrade fees are charged for future versions.

I wish they sell it with one cost(charge upgrade fee also as one time fee) and provide life time support.

Good Luck
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Quote: Originally posted by thamizhpayan on Oct 12, 2021
I recently reviewed multiple lottery applications and their features to purchase one or two for quick plays(beyond personal tracking) including Smart Luck and few others - especially ones that have survived even after many year.

The one thing I noticed is that some are good and have lot of features but update/upgrade fees are charged for future versions.

I wish they sell it with one cost(charge upgrade fee also as one time fee) and provide life time support.

Good Luck

Whichever tool or option is used, for Poweball and Megamillions at the end I have 1000s(atleast 3000) - at times 10000-50000 combos to deal with which call for a key number or key pair or gap or similar that's some sort of pin pointing filter(narrow pass).

This is even after choices like repeat number, most common filters.

Good Luck
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Oct 12, 2021, 12:22 am

Quote: Originally posted by garyo1954 on Oct 11, 2021
Been reading this post for a few days and got convinced to look at SLAG. Downloaded the demo.
Surprise! Looks like more than 90% is things we've discussed for years. Demo doesn't let you dig into the deeper stuff so maybe/probably/likely I'll end up purchasing it to see what's missing.

I do like the way it presents the data and the ability to switch charts on the fly.
Clean interface is nice as well.

G

The books have all information that the software shows

As long as We can write our own version of the statistics and filtering methodologies then even after the software goes out of market, We can independently use the methods and techniques.

The terminology and approach used in Smart Luck suite is more of looking at lottery like stock. Stock and Lottery differ more. Diving more into laid out methods and techniques might lead to some sort of perspective that lottery can be viewed similar to stocks.

Good Luck

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Oct 12, 2021, 1:08 pm

Quote: Originally posted by AllenB on Oct 11, 2021

Here is the Raw Data For Ohio Rolling Cash 5

I am Tracking All Draws, 10 Draws and 5 Draws in the Chart and Graphs

The Graphs are the Adjusted Bias P ct - (E Ct x1.05)

Still trying to make sense of all of this.

Nice. I would have kept 0;1; for E;O; ...

There is a game 1 to 36 and 5 balls drawn.
You have a probability for 0|1 by position (nrs in ASC order).

0	174624	189312	188496	187680	202368
1	202368	187680	188496	189312	174624

I didn't code this for p3 type straight, as I'm not really interested in pick 3.

We also have such probabilities for straight pairs (subcombinations positional) and so on.

Let's take straight 5. Match straight 5 to 0.

0	0	0	0	0	8568	55080	124848	124848	55080	8568
0	0	0	0	1	8568	52020	117096	124848	62832	11628
0	0	0	1	0	11628	59772	117912	117096	58956	11628
0	0	0	1	1	8568	52020	117912	124848	62016	11628
0	0	1	0	0	11628	58956	117912	117912	58956	11628
0	0	1	0	1	11628	55896	110976	117096	65892	15504
0	0	1	1	0	11628	58956	118728	117912	58140	11628
0	0	1	1	1	8568	52020	117912	124848	62016	11628
0	1	0	0	0	11628	58956	117096	117912	59772	11628
0	1	0	0	1	11628	55080	110976	117912	65892	15504
0	1	0	1	0	15504	62016	110976	110976	62016	15504
0	1	0	1	1	11628	55896	110976	117096	65892	15504
0	1	1	0	0	11628	58140	117912	118728	58956	11628
0	1	1	0	1	11628	55080	110976	117912	65892	15504
0	1	1	1	0	11628	58956	117912	117912	58956	11628
0	1	1	1	1	8568	52020	117096	124848	62832	11628
1	0	0	0	0	11628	62832	124848	117096	52020	8568
1	0	0	0	1	11628	58956	117912	117912	58956	11628
1	0	0	1	0	15504	65892	117912	110976	55080	11628
1	0	0	1	1	11628	58956	118728	117912	58140	11628
1	0	1	0	0	15504	65892	117096	110976	55896	11628
1	0	1	0	1	15504	62016	110976	110976	62016	15504
1	0	1	1	0	15504	65892	117912	110976	55080	11628
1	0	1	1	1	11628	59772	117912	117096	58956	11628
1	1	0	0	0	11628	62016	124848	117912	52020	8568
1	1	0	0	1	11628	58140	117912	118728	58956	11628
1	1	0	1	0	15504	65892	117096	110976	55896	11628
1	1	0	1	1	11628	58956	117912	117912	58956	11628
1	1	1	0	0	11628	62016	124848	117912	52020	8568
1	1	1	0	1	11628	58956	117096	117912	59772	11628
1	1	1	1	0	11628	62832	124848	117096	52020	8568
1	1	1	1	1	8568	55080	124848	124848	55080	8568

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Oct 12, 2021, 1:13 pm

Quote: Originally posted by thamizhpayan on Oct 12, 2021
The books have all information that the software shows

As long as We can write our own version of the statistics and filtering methodologies then even after the software goes out of market, We can independently use the methods and techniques.

The terminology and approach used in Smart Luck suite is more of looking at lottery like stock. Stock and Lottery differ more. Diving more into laid out methods and techniques might lead to some sort of perspective that lottery can be viewed similar to stocks.

Good Luck

You're right. Reading the Advantage Gold User manual and tutorial now.
We could replicate the program.

It does seem the meat is in the books with little value in the software. The terminology is different, but not foreign. And it appears these guys have spent more time analyzing available data than trying to accumulate data. They found a sweet spot; a place they felt comfortable and worked from there. They did a good of staying on task and not getting carried away with every little detail that popped up.

The backbone to the program, the data tables necessary to make calculations, are easy enough to write. I don't see anything (so far) that can't be done.

So I'm looking at the books and I'd say you're right about that as well.

G

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Oct 12, 2021, 3:10 pm

Quote: Originally posted by Speler on Oct 12, 2021

Nice. I would have kept 0;1; for E;O; ...

There is a game 1 to 36 and 5 balls drawn.
You have a probability for 0|1 by position (nrs in ASC order).

0	174624	189312	188496	187680	202368
1	202368	187680	188496	189312	174624

I didn't code this for p3 type straight, as I'm not really interested in pick 3.

We also have such probabilities for straight pairs (subcombinations positional) and so on.

Let's take straight 5. Match straight 5 to 0.

0	0	0	0	0	8568	55080	124848	124848	55080	8568
0	0	0	0	1	8568	52020	117096	124848	62832	11628
0	0	0	1	0	11628	59772	117912	117096	58956	11628
0	0	0	1	1	8568	52020	117912	124848	62016	11628
0	0	1	0	0	11628	58956	117912	117912	58956	11628
0	0	1	0	1	11628	55896	110976	117096	65892	15504
0	0	1	1	0	11628	58956	118728	117912	58140	11628
0	0	1	1	1	8568	52020	117912	124848	62016	11628
0	1	0	0	0	11628	58956	117096	117912	59772	11628
0	1	0	0	1	11628	55080	110976	117912	65892	15504
0	1	0	1	0	15504	62016	110976	110976	62016	15504
0	1	0	1	1	11628	55896	110976	117096	65892	15504
0	1	1	0	0	11628	58140	117912	118728	58956	11628
0	1	1	0	1	11628	55080	110976	117912	65892	15504
0	1	1	1	0	11628	58956	117912	117912	58956	11628
0	1	1	1	1	8568	52020	117096	124848	62832	11628
1	0	0	0	0	11628	62832	124848	117096	52020	8568
1	0	0	0	1	11628	58956	117912	117912	58956	11628
1	0	0	1	0	15504	65892	117912	110976	55080	11628
1	0	0	1	1	11628	58956	118728	117912	58140	11628
1	0	1	0	0	15504	65892	117096	110976	55896	11628
1	0	1	0	1	15504	62016	110976	110976	62016	15504
1	0	1	1	0	15504	65892	117912	110976	55080	11628
1	0	1	1	1	11628	59772	117912	117096	58956	11628
1	1	0	0	0	11628	62016	124848	117912	52020	8568
1	1	0	0	1	11628	58140	117912	118728	58956	11628
1	1	0	1	0	15504	65892	117096	110976	55896	11628
1	1	0	1	1	11628	58956	117912	117912	58956	11628
1	1	1	0	0	11628	62016	124848	117912	52020	8568
1	1	1	0	1	11628	58956	117096	117912	59772	11628
1	1	1	1	0	11628	62832	124848	117096	52020	8568
1	1	1	1	1	8568	55080	124848	124848	55080	8568

If I can get a history of that 5/36 Game it would be interesting to see those results.

So far Every Scenario seems to Favor the Odd Ball even after making the 5% adjustment (5/39)

I Do not understand any of what you posted after that.

It looks interesting but what is it?

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Oct 12, 2021, 4:37 pm

Quote: Originally posted by AllenB on Oct 12, 2021
If I can get a history of that 5/36 Game it would be interesting to see those results.

So far Every Scenario seems to Favor the Odd Ball even after making the 5% adjustment (5/39)

I Do not understand any of what you posted after that.

It looks interesting but what is it?

Very simple: list N(i)%2 and count (match=5).

0 0 0 0 0 8568 55080 124848 124848 55080 8568

0 0 0 0 1 8568 52020 117096 124848 62832 11628

2nd line: mod 2 array: [0 0 0 0 1] * 8568

p(combin MOD 2 equals [0 0 0 0 1])= 8568 / combin(36;5)

That's far enough.

By experience nailing 2 positions 0 XOR 1 correctly makes the big wheel smaller and than the payout ratio is better.

Example: N2%2==0 and N3%2==1 as pattern is [? 0 1 ? ?].
Now you can look at the table. You take the sum of match 5 where the pattern equals the filter pattern. Divide by combin(36;5) and you get p. Without dividing you get the filtered set size.

If you have a sure method to nail some, 2 or 3, remainders in the correct position without error, then that is a big plus for your filtered set.
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Oct 12, 2021, 4:44 pm

Quote: Originally posted by garyo1954 on Oct 12, 2021
You're right. Reading the Advantage Gold User manual and tutorial now.
We could replicate the program.

It does seem the meat is in the books with little value in the software. The terminology is different, but not foreign. And it appears these guys have spent more time analyzing available data than trying to accumulate data. They found a sweet spot; a place they felt comfortable and worked from there. They did a good of staying on task and not getting carried away with every little detail that popped up.

The backbone to the program, the data tables necessary to make calculations, are easy enough to write. I don't see anything (so far) that can't be done.

So I'm looking at the books and I'd say you're right about that as well.

G

To me,, the software seems to be an addon provided earlier in the past along with the books and it has grown into this suite - wheel generator and advantage gold.

The book has been the base and the ideas of Gail Howard are all over the book.

Good Luck
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Oct 12, 2021, 4:46 pm

Quote: Originally posted by AllenB on Oct 12, 2021
If I can get a history of that 5/36 Game it would be interesting to see those results.

So far Every Scenario seems to Favor the Odd Ball even after making the 5% adjustment (5/39)

I Do not understand any of what you posted after that.

It looks interesting but what is it?

You might on occasion want to play 3 odd numbers. Proper timing and setting the positions for the odd numbers reduces the set of combinations considerably.

I occasionally used positional mod 2 filtering for a 5/39 game. Nailing 2 positions is already fine for me.
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Quote: Originally posted by thamizhpayan on Oct 12, 2021
To me,, the software seems to be an addon provided earlier in the past along with the books and it has grown into this suite - wheel generator and advantage gold.

The book has been the base and the ideas of Gail Howard are all over the book.

Good Luck

Same here. The books go back to the turn of the millennium. The software (what I've seen) is dated 2015. I remember perdue saying they had an older DOS software as well. And I've seen some downloads for that. But to run that you'd have to install DOSbox.

Last I saw perdue he was on another lottery forum getting a group together to learn the program.

Considering you need the books to truly get a grip on the system, it makes more sense to order the book and build the modules yourself. Some reviews have noted the books are mostly ads to steer you to the software. So 6 of one; half a dozen of the other.

Not sure the wheeling books are worth the cost. Bluskov's Combinatorial Lottery Systems is as probably as good and likely more up to date. And there's plenty of free wheels on the net.

I also seen people say having the hard copy in front of them is more help than a kindle version. And I agree.
So yeah, I can see a couple of books coming in. And go from there.

Most of the work is not getting sidetracked down the rabbit holes you come across while you work through it.

G

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Oct 12, 2021, 9:11 pm

Quote: Originally posted by garyo1954 on Oct 12, 2021
Same here. The books go back to the turn of the millennium. The software (what I've seen) is dated 2015. I remember perdue saying they had an older DOS software as well. And I've seen some downloads for that. But to run that you'd have to install DOSbox.

Last I saw perdue he was on another lottery forum getting a group together to learn the program.

Considering you need the books to truly get a grip on the system, it makes more sense to order the book and build the modules yourself. Some reviews have noted the books are mostly ads to steer you to the software. So 6 of one; half a dozen of the other.

Not sure the wheeling books are worth the cost. Bluskov's Combinatorial Lottery Systems is as probably as good and likely more up to date. And there's plenty of free wheels on the net.

I also seen people say having the hard copy in front of them is more help than a kindle version. And I agree.
So yeah, I can see a couple of books coming in. And go from there.

Most of the work is not getting sidetracked down the rabbit holes you come across while you work through it.

G

Hi Gary,

Yes I read Perdue's past threads.

Lot of terminologies in the books. The sample videos and help content and text on their site have lot of terms and features unique to Gail Howard's ideas and techniques. That's why when someone with Smart Luck knowledge asks a question not many know the terms.

Good luck reading those books. Hope We can build something out of it.

Thanks

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