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Math Geniuses, Help!! "SLAG" Odd/Even Analysis - Chart I

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garyo1954's avatar - wallace
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Nice tabumulation. Positionally the shift is there from low numbers in 1st position to high numbers in last position due to how many low high numbers are present positionally in the whole set of lexical ordered  combinations.

These tabulations help in adding include/exclude filters per position and choose even or odd as filter value. If We have a wheel, We can add these E/O filters. Any short term shift or trend that We see can be used to guess filter values.

 

Good luck

That was my thoughts as well. We could do it 1 to 7 and see the same thing spread out over 2 rows. She talks about this less than decade breakdown so I took a stab at it. Not sure how AllenB does his fifths, but its the same idea only using GH method.

1-771981-715131-7111-7001-700
8-1479448-1415338-1412138-14308-1400
15-21274115-21364915-21192415-2171015-2110
22-28181322-28552722-28373322-28141122-2814
29-3581029-35293529-35354629-35192529-3535
36-4231136-42231636-42364236-42412136-42117
43-491043-4981643-49322743-49434243-492023
50-560050-565250-56162150-56522350-563826
57-630057-631157-6310957-63324457-635358
64-700064-700064-701164-70161364-707358


Won't work for every game. For example, Powerball has 69 numbers. No way to divide 69 equally. Decades won't work, 5s won't work, 6,7,8,9 all have a remainder. Allen had mentioned filtering by position and this seemed logical. I do have another small program that does the same showing the E/O  and H/L by position, the difference, and percentage. I've posted images of it here in the past for hundreds or thousands of draws. (Not like you need a program for 5 to ten draws.)

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    Mega Millions v % 2 pattern straight:
    Scores: 5/5 to 0/5

    001002272139122567
    0001018631371236215
    0110118661191188017
    1001017801181196618
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    1111017631201436411
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    1011015681471195514
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    000001477135131529
    0011014811231266410
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    1100014601381464911
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    010116481331377816
    101114671311406610

    Maybe that helps?

    Boxed pattern:

    000001477135131529
    00001771491315290
    0001113520866900
    00111131187861400
    011115214013577140
    111119521311357714
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      That was my thoughts as well. We could do it 1 to 7 and see the same thing spread out over 2 rows. She talks about this less than decade breakdown so I took a stab at it. Not sure how AllenB does his fifths, but its the same idea only using GH method.

      1-771981-715131-7111-7001-700
      8-1479448-1415338-1412138-14308-1400
      15-21274115-21364915-21192415-2171015-2110
      22-28181322-28552722-28373322-28141122-2814
      29-3581029-35293529-35354629-35192529-3535
      36-4231136-42231636-42364236-42412136-42117
      43-491043-4981643-49322743-49434243-492023
      50-560050-565250-56162150-56522350-563826
      57-630057-631157-6310957-63324457-635358
      64-700064-700064-701164-70161364-707358


      Won't work for every game. For example, Powerball has 69 numbers. No way to divide 69 equally. Decades won't work, 5s won't work, 6,7,8,9 all have a remainder. Allen had mentioned filtering by position and this seemed logical. I do have another small program that does the same showing the E/O  and H/L by position, the difference, and percentage. I've posted images of it here in the past for hundreds or thousands of draws. (Not like you need a program for 5 to ten draws.)

      G

      Groups of 7. For you I start by 1, I usually do 0.

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          For v%10, any order (box). Top.

          Straight, top 1: 4 5 7 2 7 - 2*5/5

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            combin(70,5)=12103014
            The set is to big to filter. I can filter this but it takes time and the cooling system engages. You better pick your numbers, generate the full wheel or positional wheel or ... and add filters and finish with a coverage.  -  Filtering a x if x wheel requires luck to not eliminate the best lines.

            26 4/4 minimal by gary's: 2542 lines. Would it pay the bet with 4/26? After filtering?

            If I generate 1-26 wheel with 2 or 3 even numbers 4 if 4, I get less than 2500 lines with short processing time.

            Hard to take you serious when you say things like that.

            There are 11.4 million 4/1, 1/4, 3/2, and 2/3 patterns of E/O or H/L. No one who has looked at the numbers would expect to reduce that number to 2500 or less. I wouldn't attempt it. And not even sure where you get that 2542 lines. Never crossed my mind.

            What I'm doing is going through GH Master guide and doing the charts that will help in establishing the parameters to use in playing Mega Millions. 

            Here's a hint on working with games like Mega Millions with 12103014 permutations.....

            Break it down into smaller segments. 
            Yes it is that simple.
            Break it by first number 0, 1, 2, 3, 4, etc.
            Break it  by 3/2, or 2/3, or 4/1 or 1/4.....(or any combination of two you want)
            Break it by sum range....

            There are probably a dozen ways you can divide the matrix making them much easier to work with while removing permutations you'll never play anyway. 

            So take an afternoon, set some parameters and write smaller files using those parameters. Then you don't have to work with 12103014 permutations. You work with smaller files. 

            In less than an afternoon I wrote 25 files dividing the total in smaller segments, then went back and loosely defined the  most common parameters and wrote play files.   

            Of course, if you're afraid that by eliminating a combination like 1,2,3,4,5 you might lose one draw.....nobody can help you. 


            G

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              Straight, top 1: 4 5 7 2 7 - 2*5/5

              We're not on the same page at all. 
              But whatever you've done looks like you know what you are doing. 

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                We're not on the same page at all. 
                But whatever you've done looks like you know what you are doing. 

                G

                Hi Gary,

                I always prefer filters that have maximum values ranging from 5 to 10. Few combination characteristics/features will be with max values count from 10+ to 200+ values(e.g., sums). I try to shorten these by using some grouping methods and bring them down to 1-10 or so as the filter values.  Since I deal with 5/48 - Lucky for Life, 5/52 Lotto America, 5/69 Powerball and 5/70 Mega millions, I prefer filters that can get rid of lot of combinations. Disadvantage is that, this also has the risk of getting rid of 5/5 sooner than other methods.

                Good Luck

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                  It is pretty simple to run some stats on any given past lotto history database...  How many consecutive numbers have ever won your favorite 5/xx or 6/xx lotto games?  All even?  All odd?  High/Low?  And what about that ~70% sum (kill the 15% tails)?  Seems it is pretty simple to cut a lot of outlier combinations from your play...  Separating the noise from the signal...

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                    Hi Gary,

                    I always prefer filters that have maximum values ranging from 5 to 10. Few combination characteristics/features will be with max values count from 10+ to 200+ values(e.g., sums). I try to shorten these by using some grouping methods and bring them down to 1-10 or so as the filter values.  Since I deal with 5/48 - Lucky for Life, 5/52 Lotto America, 5/69 Powerball and 5/70 Mega millions, I prefer filters that can get rid of lot of combinations. Disadvantage is that, this also has the risk of getting rid of 5/5 sooner than other methods.

                    Good Luck

                    Yes, you are going to get rid of some. Its inevitable. You can't play all the combinations. And trying to work with all the combinations only leads to missing others you have a better chance at hitting. 

                    Not sure which book its in, but GH recommends playing patterns that hit about 62 times every 100 draws. Patterns that hit most are the ones that give you more opportunities to win. What happens most often is going to continue to happen. 

                    That doesn't mean you can't have your eye on the less common patterns and take a shot when those are overdue.

                    But the more things you define and limit, the more chances you have to miss.

                    Basically to get rid of blocks of combinations I took her sum range and kicked out any combination outside that range. There are about 124/417 (29.7%) of the draws outside that range for Mega Millions. 

                    So its a trade-off. Playing outside that sum range means you're giving up on 70% of the draws. 

                    You can play with the ranges a bit either way. And probably should since games tend to be a little different.

                    G

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                      Yes, you are going to get rid of some. Its inevitable. You can't play all the combinations. And trying to work with all the combinations only leads to missing others you have a better chance at hitting. 

                      Not sure which book its in, but GH recommends playing patterns that hit about 62 times every 100 draws. Patterns that hit most are the ones that give you more opportunities to win. What happens most often is going to continue to happen. 

                      That doesn't mean you can't have your eye on the less common patterns and take a shot when those are overdue.

                      But the more things you define and limit, the more chances you have to miss.

                      Basically to get rid of blocks of combinations I took her sum range and kicked out any combination outside that range. There are about 124/417 (29.7%) of the draws outside that range for Mega Millions. 

                      So its a trade-off. Playing outside that sum range means you're giving up on 70% of the draws. 

                      You can play with the ranges a bit either way. And probably should since games tend to be a little different.

                      G

                      At times, We can hold a set of filters(combining 2 or 3 filters) constant for a period of time - not modify them. And just add other filters on top based on game's progression and short term trends.

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                        At times, We can hold a set of filters(combining 2 or 3 filters) constant for a period of time - not modify them. And just add other filters on top based on game's progression and short term trends.

                        That's a good idea as well. 

                        For me, I know I'm never going to play certain combinations, so I refuse to bother with them. Five consecutive, five of the same back digit. That's one of those extremely rare happening that just materialize out of nowhere and Poof! They're gone!

                        Four of the same digits has happened once between Powerball and Mega Millions since 2017. 

                        Strange thing, I was looking for an unmatched game last draw (all different back digits) and a triple showed. 15 26 28 35 45


                        Things like that do happen. Here's what I was looking at...... Charts a little screwy when it posted so when you see the last two digits 13, 14, 15, 34, those are the positions where the pair fell. 34 points to the 17,27 pair in the 3 and 4 position in the first draw. 15 points to the 9 in the first and last position......14 is first and fourth position and so forth. 

                        3931917273472034
                        39491840466992515
                        395294550596292014
                        396172135405310712345
                        3973616385662235
                        398414351577013213
                        399171826526772615
                        40011044475610812345
                        40181431586882145
                        40271012616510912345
                        403151725325353313
                        404203235476411012345
                        405413196364415-23
                        406173240596111112345
                        4073641455156515-23
                        408172127435673413
                        409183043686982114
                        410212536626311212345
                        41171118303611312345
                        412212436407002045
                        4132126566165414-23
                        41432031346511412345
                        415312131952413-25
                        41691426286663135
                        41761419566262214
                        41815262835455145

                        Trend said when you have a double or two doubles it would be broken by 5 unmatched back digits.
                        In draw 418 that did not happen. We got a triple. A FREAKING TRIPLE!

                        Same thing in second position. You have 6 evens, I expected an odd. Didn't happen.

                        I did go heavy on the 30's and 40s since they had been missing 3 and 5 draws. I chose three each.
                        None of mine hit. (33,38,37 and 42,47,48)

                        There's enough to trip you up without adding to the mix (IMO). 

                        I'm learning/relearning a lot of the basics from the book that have been glossed over and repeated on the gossip line so long they have totally different meanings now. And its not easy unlearning things that you want to believe and things you've told yourself are true for so many years.

                        I actually question things she writes. Then I do the math and look at from what she's saying and it makes sense even if it doesn't agree with what I thought. 

                        But I don't think there is a right and wrong way, as long as you're consistent in what you do. Still, I'm relying on her to make sense of everything. Makes it much easier on my old brain! 


                        G

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                          One thing I neglected to mention, an important point......

                          When you break combinations down into divisions it does not guarantee the majority of the sets will follow those divisions....

                          N1EvenOddN2EvenOddN3EvenOddN4EvenOddN5EvenOdd
                          1-141501421-1467461-1413141-14301-1400
                          15-28455415-28917615-28565715-28212115-2824
                          29-42111329-42525129-42718829-42604629-421412
                          43-561043-56131843-56484843-56956543-565849
                          57-700057-701157-70111057-70485757-70161116

                          For example, this chart shows 292 numbers between 1 and 14 falling in the first position.
                          It shows 167 numbers between 15-28 falling in the second position. And 159 numbers between 29-42 falling in the third position.

                          That does not mean they fell together (in the same draw at the same time)! We can assume some did but without testing we can't know for sure the number that did or the number out of charted range.

                          So pretty important point. We need to test our sets to see how many fall in the charted range to ensure we have good data, and/or perhaps change our chart to reflect the draws.

                          Hopefully this post will get us to the next page where we can continue this conversation without wading through the lists of meaningless numbers Speler has so generously provided.

                          G

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                            One thing I neglected to mention, an important point......

                            When you break combinations down into divisions it does not guarantee the majority of the sets will follow those divisions....

                            N1EvenOddN2EvenOddN3EvenOddN4EvenOddN5EvenOdd
                            1-141501421-1467461-1413141-14301-1400
                            15-28455415-28917615-28565715-28212115-2824
                            29-42111329-42525129-42718829-42604629-421412
                            43-561043-56131843-56484843-56956543-565849
                            57-700057-701157-70111057-70485757-70161116

                            For example, this chart shows 292 numbers between 1 and 14 falling in the first position.
                            It shows 167 numbers between 15-28 falling in the second position. And 159 numbers between 29-42 falling in the third position.

                            That does not mean they fell together (in the same draw at the same time)! We can assume some did but without testing we can't know for sure the number that did or the number out of charted range.

                            So pretty important point. We need to test our sets to see how many fall in the charted range to ensure we have good data, and/or perhaps change our chart to reflect the draws.

                            Hopefully this post will get us to the next page where we can continue this conversation without wading through the lists of meaningless numbers Speler has so generously provided.

                            G

                            Hi Gary,

                            This is where people start assigning group indicators with alphabets ABCDE(1-14,15-28,29-42,43-56,57-70) or numerical identifiers(1,2,3,4,5). This leads to structure prediction.

                            e.g.,

                            1-20-45-50-65 becomes ABDDE or 12445.

                            Once we are dealing as structures, We see the repetition of these groups clearly in other positions. That's the next stage or a different stage of handling this same positional data(sorted order).

                            I noticed GH has mentioned in LMG that She wrote few papers and booklets before writing these books(possibly before getting copyright/patent/trademark for her features/methods/techniques). That might have been the time when all lottery predictors would have started looking at methods to play or sell(hmmm... happens till today - either create a method to win or just make it look appealing to sell...)

                            This book needs major revisit and a new revision by the company. It's like a history book about facts. Lottery ticket prizes, number set/ball set size for pick-5 and pick-6 are all out dated. It should mention the PB/MM jackpots of 1 billion.... Needs more up to date Lottery background data. Prices of lottery tickets are mentioned as 4 for a dollar, 3 for a dollar or 1 for a dollar(big jackpots). The odds pages also have to list up to 5/75 and 6/90. It has tonnes of information in it. And each reader would get different ways to enhance these for their usage.

                            This book definitely needs a new revision/version(not the methods and techniques)...

                             

                            I used to post huge number sets/data in tables in posts. Nowadays I share such listings as excels or texts as google drive links. They just clutter the page or just make the page loading slow(especially with browsers in portable devices).

                             

                            Speler has his own methods.

                             

                            Good Luck

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                              I wrote a program to assign alpha characters to the draws. Don't use it. Tried it didn't see any true purpose when the front digit pattern does the same thing for decades. And its only three lines of code to test a number for below, between, or above for anything else. If there's an other purpose for A, B, C, D, E y'all have to clue me in.

                              Yep. The book could use a thorough cleansing and update. They probably won't spend any time or money on it until its no longer selling and then come out with some splash ad claiming "Major Update with All New Tables" or something. I delete the outdated stuff as soon as its read. Its frustrating to have to read it already, no sense in dwelling on it.

                              So I agree with you on needing an update revision. It would be much better book if she spent more time defining the ideas. Of course, she probably left a lot open to interpretation so that she didn't shut down the readers ideas and thought process. Just a guess. 

                              Most of us have posted long tables and charts (and lived to regret it). There was a time we could put up an Excel sheet on one of the file sharing sites and have 500-600 downloads overnight. Don't happen now. People are no longer that invested.

                              And nothing against Speler, but people don't want to wade through post after post of meaningless numbers that have no explanation of what they are, where they came for, or what the purpose of posting them was in the first place. Any of us can do it, but who wants to solve that puzzle?

                              At any rate, I took a nice drive, had lunch in a small diner in some small town, enjoyed the fresh air, and refreshed.
                              No complaints.

                              G

                              I'm probably here unless I'm not.

                                 
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