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rdgrnr's avatar - walt
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He doesn't believe the "old fools" who wrote the Bible but he believes everything the libs say about the Conservatives on their hate websites and goes around quoting it to everybody like it's documented fact instead of the concocted lies it is. Then he says he's not a liberal.LOL Crazy 

He also believes some mumbling old man won a million and a half on Pick4. Why? Cuz the old mumbler told him he did! He even confirmed it on the phone! How much more documented evidence could you need than that? CrazyLOL


                                             
                     
                                         

 

 

 

 

                                                                                                   

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    Boney, I meant to ask you this earlier. Serious question....

    About 12 years ago I was sitting around with a bunch of 20 year old guys having a few beers when one of them, who acted just like you did, asked me a question. I knew the one who asked me the question for about 2 years. He thought that he knew everything and got pissed off when I corrected him on something. He said to me....you really think you're smart huh? And i replied by saying, no If I was smart I'd have at least 2 or 3 million free and clear in the bank. I told him that knowing a bunch of things, in my book, doesn't make someone smart, but having a lot of money is what counts to me. Knowing what the capital of Timbuk Tu is doesn't pay the rent. Of course money isn't everything that defines being smart, but that comes with living longer, having common sense, and having intuition, an eye for something and so on. Street smarts is the best education you can get.

    Anyways, I asked him one question that he had no answer for. And this is the same question I'm going to ask you below.

    How much smarter do you think you are than the typical 5 year old, or even 8 or 10 year old? You're 19 and I'm 47. I've got 29 years on you, so i can't even go back that far enough for a comparison between you and someone younger than you.

    So the question is how smarter are you than a typical 5 year old? If you answered considerably, you'd be correct. And that's only 14 years difference. A 5 year old couldn't hold a candle to you right? Not because you're smarter than he is, but because you've experienced much more. When I say smarter, I don't mean in the way of knowing how far the sun is away from the earth, or a name of a river, I mean street smarts. Like If the house caught on fire, would he/she know exactly what to do in the correct order? Would he/she know to make asbolutely sure to look both ways before crossing a blind spot on a street?  Would he/she know why it's so important not to run on wet ground in a swimming pool? Those little things add up as we grow. To the 5 year old, you're light years away. Remember, that's only 14 years, Imagine 29.

    When I was in the Navy, we had officers come into our squadron right our of officer candidate school. it took them 4 years of intense college level training to earn that title. But there was a problem. I used to hear the Chiefs, master chiefs, and Senior chiefs who were all enlisted (Not officers), who were in the Navy for 25, 30 or more years having to take orders from some schmuck 25 year old officer who's ass was still green. The chiefs were furious because they were in the trenches so to speak. They knew their job inside out and could do t in their sleep, and here comes this hot shot kid out of school making believe he knows what's really going on.

    If there was ever an emergency of any kind, I'd listen to any of those chiefs instead of the officers. Any day of the week !


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      He doesn't believe the "old fools" who wrote the Bible but he believes everything the libs say about the Conservatives on their hate websites and goes around quoting it to everybody like it's documented fact instead of the concocted lies it is. Then he says he's not a liberal.LOL Crazy 

      He also believes some mumbling old man won a million and a half on Pick4. Why? Cuz the old mumbler told him he did! He even confirmed it on the phone! How much more documented evidence could you need than that? CrazyLOL

      Ummm, there's a difference between talking to someone and believing them about a lottery system, or opinionating oneself about how BOTH sides of the party are corrupt, but you never read that part when I write it, than to live your whole life revolved around a fairytale, then go around and indoctrinating little impressionable kids about nonsense, and mutilating their genitals, instead of letting them know all the facts and choosing for themselves. Whether it's Christians or those whacked out Muslims or anyone else. Killing millions of people for thousands of years because you disagree with them over who's God is right is a little different than having a conversation about lottery or politics. Wake up !

      Your analogies suck dude.

      Nice analogy....billions of brainwashed idiots killing each other......as compared to some over the top conversations about lottery and politics.....YEAH....OK RIDGE......

      Nice try, but ry it on someone else dude !

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        Atheist: Doesn't believe in the existence of God or a Supreme Being.

        Boney526on August 31, 2011

        And you're an aethiest, which explains why you're a complete ass.

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        So, boney526, anyone who doesn't believe in any supreme being is a complete ass?

        Where is this "Supreme being" when one looks at women, children and men being killed, raped, molested, ... ?

        Is this what She/He had in mind "creating everything"?

        And as for RANDOM, for anyone who believes in a Supreme being, Randomness simply can not exist since everything is "meant to be".

        I believe in black holes, and how they destroy entire galaxies.
        Now what?

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          Boney, I meant to ask you this earlier. Serious question....

          About 12 years ago I was sitting around with a bunch of 20 year old guys having a few beers when one of them, who acted just like you did, asked me a question. I knew the one who asked me the question for about 2 years. He thought that he knew everything and got pissed off when I corrected him on something. He said to me....you really think you're smart huh? And i replied by saying, no If I was smart I'd have at least 2 or 3 million free and clear in the bank. I told him that knowing a bunch of things, in my book, doesn't make someone smart, but having a lot of money is what counts to me. Knowing what the capital of Timbuk Tu is doesn't pay the rent. Of course money isn't everything that defines being smart, but that comes with living longer, having common sense, and having intuition, an eye for something and so on. Street smarts is the best education you can get.

          Anyways, I asked him one question that he had no answer for. And this is the same question I'm going to ask you below.

          How much smarter do you think you are than the typical 5 year old, or even 8 or 10 year old? You're 19 and I'm 47. I've got 29 years on you, so i can't even go back that far enough for a comparison between you and someone younger than you.

          So the question is how smarter are you than a typical 5 year old? If you answered considerably, you'd be correct. And that's only 14 years difference. A 5 year old couldn't hold a candle to you right? Not because you're smarter than he is, but because you've experienced much more. When I say smarter, I don't mean in the way of knowing how far the sun is away from the earth, or a name of a river, I mean street smarts. Like If the house caught on fire, would he/she know exactly what to do in the correct order? Would he/she know to make asbolutely sure to look both ways before crossing a blind spot on a street?  Would he/she know why it's so important not to run on wet ground in a swimming pool? Those little things add up as we grow. To the 5 year old, you're light years away. Remember, that's only 14 years, Imagine 29.

          When I was in the Navy, we had officers come into our squadron right our of officer candidate school. it took them 4 years of intense college level training to earn that title. But there was a problem. I used to hear the Chiefs, master chiefs, and Senior chiefs who were all enlisted (Not officers), who were in the Navy for 25, 30 or more years having to take orders from some schmuck 25 year old officer who's ass was still green. The chiefs were furious because they were in the trenches so to speak. They knew their job inside out and could do t in their sleep, and here comes this hot shot kid out of school making believe he knows what's really going on.

          If there was ever an emergency of any kind, I'd listen to any of those chiefs instead of the officers. Any day of the week !

          "...it's so important not to run on wet ground in a swimming pool"  Crazy

          Well, I see you're still doing acid, joker.

          Have a nice trip!

          (Whoa, LOL!)


                                                       
                               
                                                   

           

           

           

           

                                                                                                             

          "The only thing necessary for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing"

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            Boney526on August 31, 2011

            And you're an aethiest, which explains why you're a complete ass.

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            So, boney526, anyone who doesn't believe in any supreme being is a complete ass?

            Where is this "Supreme being" when one looks at women, children and men being killed, raped, molested, ... ?

            Is this what She/He had in mind "creating everything"?

            And as for RANDOM, for anyone who believes in a Supreme being, Randomness simply can not exist since everything is "meant to be".

            I believe in black holes, and how they destroy entire galaxies.
            Now what?

            I don't believe that.

            I used to have a Galaxie 500 and I hit a black hole one time and bent the rim but there was no way it could destroy my entire Galaxie.

            I remember it well, I was eating a Mars Bar at the time


                                                         
                                 
                                                     

             

             

             

             

                                                                                                               

            "The only thing necessary for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing"

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              "...it's so important not to run on wet ground in a swimming pool"  Crazy

              Well, I see you're still doing acid, joker.

              Have a nice trip!

              (Whoa, LOL!)

              You know what I meant, stop screwing with me. I meant on the outside of the pool, not in the pool you big dummy...Green laugh


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                Boney526on August 31, 2011

                And you're an aethiest, which explains why you're a complete ass.

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                So, boney526, anyone who doesn't believe in any supreme being is a complete ass?

                Where is this "Supreme being" when one looks at women, children and men being killed, raped, molested, ... ?

                Is this what She/He had in mind "creating everything"?

                And as for RANDOM, for anyone who believes in a Supreme being, Randomness simply can not exist since everything is "meant to be".

                I believe in black holes, and how they destroy entire galaxies.
                Now what?

                Don't waste yor time. They have an answer for everything. They even change the laws of physics, like how fast light travels to make their point. It's a free for all, just make things up as you go.

                To answer your question, he'll probably blame it on Adam and Eve, they all do. It's a quick and easy answer. Just blame it on a fake couple in a plagiarised book and that's it. badda bing...badda boom!

                20,000 kids have been slowly dying a miserable and slow death every single day of the week for hundreds of years by the way of malnutrition, and or disease, but remember, God loves you....

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                  Don't waste yor time. They have an answer for everything. They even change the laws of physics, like how fast light travels to make their point. It's a free for all, just make things up as you go.

                  To answer your question, he'll probably blame it on Adam and Eve, they all do. It's a quick and easy answer. Just blame it on a fake couple in a plagiarised book and that's it. badda bing...badda boom!

                  20,000 kids have been slowly dying a miserable and slow death every single day of the week for hundreds of years by the way of malnutrition, and or disease, but remember, God loves you....

                  As someone who is so concerned and has these dying children on his mind all the time and with all the agencies that are actively involved in trying to save these children, how much do you contribute a month to save them?


                                                               
                                       
                                                           

                   

                   

                   

                   

                                                                                                                     

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                                                                                                              --Edmund Burke

                   

                   

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                    It's so ironic that you think that religous books are "Fairy Tales" and you'd have to be nuts to believe them, yet you believe that somehow roulette and lottery balls have some sort of interference from their past results to influence the current ones.

                     

                    Do you see how that's just crazy?

                    Past results are just a starting point.

                    I don't know of anybody flipping coins and betting on the outcome, but they have to make the same choice, Red/Black, Even/Odd, or High/Low as Roulette players make. It doesn't make any difference if they choose one past bias over another, it's still a starting point. If you have a probability that in 75% of the pick-4 drawings at one of the digits repeats, that's a starting point.

                    Most of the systems we read about are for the next drawing, add 1, subtract 2, do this, or do that and you'll hit the next drawing. As silly as it sounds, the "play these numbers in all states for the next month" systems make more sense if they are based on probability.

                    As for house edges, when that Atlantic City casino lost $5 million to a Blackjack player, I really doubt the Pit Boss reported to their Superior, "I have good news and bad news; the bad news is we lost $5 million but the good news is we would have lost 2% more if hadn't been for our house edge!".

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                      Boney526on August 31, 2011

                      And you're an aethiest, which explains why you're a complete ass.

                      ******************

                      So, boney526, anyone who doesn't believe in any supreme being is a complete ass?

                      Where is this "Supreme being" when one looks at women, children and men being killed, raped, molested, ... ?

                      Is this what She/He had in mind "creating everything"?

                      And as for RANDOM, for anyone who believes in a Supreme being, Randomness simply can not exist since everything is "meant to be".

                      I believe in black holes, and how they destroy entire galaxies.
                      Now what?

                      No not all atheists.  I know quite a few atheists that are fine people.  But out of the atheists I know, more of them are complete asses to anyone who believes different things than them.  Jut my experience, but it's a correlation I've noticed.

                      In jokers case that's what I see because he insists on making fun of people for theirreligous beliefs, which makes him a complete ass.

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                        As someone who is so concerned and has these dying children on his mind all the time and with all the agencies that are actively involved in trying to save these children, how much do you contribute a month to save them?

                        All I hear is crickets.


                                                                     
                                             
                                                                 

                         

                         

                         

                         

                                                                                                                           

                        "The only thing necessary for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing"

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                          All I hear is crickets.

                          I'm not allowed to remark on religious content any longer. But it's ok if you keep using racist under tones towards me. You're allowed to...... You won, happy?

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                            I'm not allowed to remark on religious content any longer. But it's ok if you keep using racist under tones towards me. You're allowed to...... You won, happy?

                            I didn't win anything.

                            And your race card cop-out is getting waaaay overplayed, don't you think? It's really getting old.

                            We both have to obey the rules.

                            No hard feelings on my part and if there is on your part just block me.


                                                                         
                                                 
                                                                     

                             

                             

                             

                             

                                                                                                                               

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                              I didn't win anything.

                              And your race card cop-out is getting waaaay overplayed, don't you think? It's really getting old.

                              We both have to obey the rules.

                              No hard feelings on my part and if there is on your part just block me.

                              No, YOU don't have to follow the rules here. I've already seen plenty of evidence of that in this site already, but that's ok, I know why, and that's all that counts. And that's all I'm gonna say about that.

                                 
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