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# BigDaddy's Pi Formula: X/n + YYY

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Florida,

March 26 eve-474

March 27 mid-450

474 X 3.14= 1488.36

1488.36 X 3.14= 4673.4504

March 27 mid-450

March 27 eve-443

450 X 3.14= 1413

1413 X 3.14= 4436.82

March 27 eve-443

March 28 mid-007

443 X 3.14= 1391.02

1391.02 X 3.14= 4367.8028

4367.8028 X 3.14= 13714.900712

Good job amber!

But,oh my goodness a hijack!  Just kidding.  Brace yourself the birds are circling the thread and ready to pounce!

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Florida,

March 26 eve-474

March 27 mid-450

474 X 3.14= 1488.36

1488.36 X 3.14= 4673.4504

March 27 mid-450

March 27 eve-443

450 X 3.14= 1413

1413 X 3.14= 4436.82

March 27 eve-443

March 28 mid-007

443 X 3.14= 1391.02

1391.02 X 3.14= 4367.8028

4367.8028 X 3.14= 13714.900712

One thing to look at is the different rounding of Pi. Looks like in Kola's they rounded to 3.142. But when you are looking at multiplying several times or with fairly large numbers, that rounding can change things quite a bit.

In the first calculation above, using 3.142 would have changed things like this:

474 X 3.142 = 1489.308

1489.308 X 3.142 = 4679.405736

Kinda interesting I guess that you still get a box hit in the same position idk.

Then, if you us Pi to the farthest extent my calculator goes it looks like this:

474 X Pi = 1489.1149178015619950312929636745

That X Pi = 4678.1924861163559853275487339413

I have no idea if there's anything in that to use, but they would be much more accurate results of using actual Pi. Maybe there's something to the rounding. Pick 3 round 3 digits, pick 4 round 4. Idk.

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It's called an example. Its a variation of using pi. This is a learning forum, so learn something instead of your same old lottery commission post.  Its very old.  Like a broken record.

There are various ways to use pi. Kola program,a calculator math tables.  Anyone even you can try it.  People can try any method posted but I'm not holding anyone's hand. I'm not doing the work for everyone.  You can lead someone to the lake but will they drink the water?  This obsession of posting multiple state is ridiculous.  I'm busy enough with my state.  I'm not doing your work for you.

I'm not doing your work for you

I have never in the past; present; nor in the future have I ever asked you for anything concerning your expertise (?) in Lottery Systems. Why would I ask you for the Inferior when my quest like everyone else here is for the Superior ???.

Sometimes it's extremely difficult if not practically impossible to get people to disregard the smoke and mirrors.  Instead, they seem to enjoy the ride down the proverbial Garden Path....... helpless to extricate themselves from being totally deceived by known forces in their midst who would argue that they have come here for the sole purpose of helping people.......str8ca\$hhomie

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Florida,

March 26 eve-474

March 27 mid-450

474 X 3.14= 1488.36

1488.36 X 3.14= 4673.4504

March 27 mid-450

March 27 eve-443

450 X 3.14= 1413

1413 X 3.14= 4436.82

March 27 eve-443

March 28 mid-007

443 X 3.14= 1391.02

1391.02 X 3.14= 4367.8028

4367.8028 X 3.14= 13714.900712

Oh my goodness these are after the fact!  These were not posted earlier so we wouldn't have to do any of the work ourselves!

Call the lotto commision!

Hilarious!

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The yyy integer can be looked at as 3 separate digit each controls one space of the integer 0-9 ...

in pick 4 the first y controls the fourth number too but very loosely..I run my pick 4 with 3 and 4 integers like yyy and yyyy..adding the fourth number to the integer adds control and flexibility to adjustment ..

This statement and some of his others lead to the indication that the yyy integer is not necessarily all the same digit.

Anyone else see this as possible?

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This statement and some of his others lead to the indication that the yyy integer is not necessarily all the same digit.

Anyone else see this as possible?

In all of the examples it seemed to be because you get the YYY from dividing up the full circle evenly. Although if you divide it up into different increments instead of 3 or 10 I suppose that could lead to results where the YYY is not 3 of the same digit.

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Oh my goodness these are after the fact!  These were not posted earlier so we wouldn't have to do any of the work ourselves!

Call the lotto commision!

Hilarious!

What's Up with this "WE" stuff ??? From all indications it appears that amber123 ( being in the singular) did a fantastic job in posting numbers utilizing the PI Formula.

Sometimes it's extremely difficult if not practically impossible to get people to disregard the smoke and mirrors.  Instead, they seem to enjoy the ride down the proverbial Garden Path....... helpless to extricate themselves from being totally deceived by known forces in their midst who would argue that they have come here for the sole purpose of helping people.......str8ca\$hhomie

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To the contrary:

NC results 315 sum 9

27-9=18

3.14159*18=5.654862

Look at those first 3 digits 565

Mirror the six to one and a few draws later 155.

Bam!

The message is think outside the box!

What do you call this homie?  Brainpower.  If you are jealous get over it.

Call the lotto commision!

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bigdaddy--are you using one of these formulas? or have you developed something different than these? It seems you have found something that is working so just wondering if you would share before I go through testing each of these other formulas. They have been around quite a while so I would expect if they are working we would know that by now.

If you have questions about the Rings of Pi Strategy, you should probably READ Kola's original thread, or PM either Kola or Bigdaddy, since they both have more insight into a strategy that they have been using for some time.  Bigdaddy may have modified Kola's original Pi system, to work better for his home state of Tennessee.

There are a number of other twists and nuances in the Pi Strategy, that Kola discusses in his 18 page thread. For example, Kola suggested the additional modification of using the Mirror Values of the "YYY" integers to Add to the Pi formula, which leaves you with 40 numbers to play, rather than just 9 numbers.  Personally, I think 40 numbers is too many, but this "mirror" twist may allow for more accuracy in hitting the winning number.

Modifications to the Pi Strategy:

In step 4 above you added the "C" or "YYY" Integer Values. Well now we're going to add the constants and their Mirrors to the value of "(X / Pi)"  = [(X / Pi) + YYY (Integers + Mirrors].

They are:

Integer >>>>>>  Mirrors

000 >>>>>>>>> 005, 050, 500

111 >>>>>>>>> 116, 161, 611

222 >>>>>>>>> 227, 272, 722

333 >>>>>>>>> 338, 383, 833

444 >>>>>>>>> 449, 494, 944

555 >>>>>>>>> 550, 505, 055

666>>>>>>>>>> 661, 616, 166

777 >>>>>>>>> 772, 727, 277

888>>>>>>>>>> 883, 838, 388

999>>>>>>>>>> 994, 949, 499

An example of the above.

We will use the PI formula of (X / P ) + C

Remember

Tier 1 = numbers 000 to 333.  For this tier use 1PI value of 3.14159

Tier 2 = numbers 333 to 666.  For this tier use 2PI value of 6.28318

Tier 3 = numbers 666 to 999.  For this tier use 3PI value of 9.42477

Midday Draw = 789  = Tier 3

Evening Draw = 334 = Tier 2 - Last Draw - DOMINANT DRAW

334 is the last draw and is in Tier 2. Change the Tier 3 draw of 789 into a Tier 2 draw. You do it by adding or subtracting by 333 or 666

789 - 333 = 456

So now add 456 + 334 = 790. Divide 790 by 2 to find average number...

790/2 = 395. 395  = This is your "X" variable of the PI formula - TIER 2 - Use 2Pi

(X / 2Pi) = 395/6.28318 = 62.866

Add Integers and Mirrors to Seed Number  of 62.866. This gives you 40 numbers to work with.

1.  000 + 62.866 =   62.866

2.  005 + 62.866 =  67.866

3.  050 + 62.866 =  112.866

4.  500 + 62.866 =  562.866

5.  555 + 62.866  =  617.8

6.  550 +.................=  612.8

7.   505 +................=  567.8

8.   055 +...............=   117.8

9.   111 +..................=  173.8

10.  116 +.................=  178.8

11.  161 +.................=   223.8

12.  611 +................=   673.8

13.  666 +..............=   728.8

14.  661 +................=  723.8

15.  616 +................=   678.8

16.  166 +.................=  228.8

17.  222 +................=  284.8

18.  227....................=   289.8

19.  272....................=  334.8

20.  722....................=  784.8

21.  777.....................=  839.8

22.  772.....................=  834.8

23.  727.....................=  789.8

24.  277.....................=  339.8

25.  333.....................=  395.8

26.  338.....................=  400.8

27.  383.....................=  445.8

28.  833.....................=  894.8

29.  888.....................= 950.8

30.  883.....................= 945.8

31.  838......................= 900.8

32.  388......................= 480.8

33.  444......................= 506.8

34.  449......................= 511.8

35.  494......................= 556.8

36.  944......................= 1006.8

37.  994......................= 1056.8

38.  949......................= 1001.8

39.  499.......................= 561.8

40.  999.......................= 1061.8 [This number actually works out to be 062.8 ( Add 1 to the 1, to end up with a 3 digit number).

Here are the additional "Mirror" Integer Values to add to [(X / Pi) + "YYYY" ] for Pick 4:

Taken from page 17 of Kola's thread.

In the Pick 4, there would be 80 circumference constants, because its a larger matrix. Here they are:

1.         2.         3.         4.         5.         6.         7.         8.         9.         10.         11.         12.         13.         14.           15.         16.

0000    0005     0050   0500    5000    0055    0505     0550    5005    5050       5500     0555       5055      5505      5550      5555

1111    1116     1161   1611    6111    1166    1616     1661    6116    6161       6611     1666       6166      6616      6661      6666

2222    2227     2272   2722    7222    2277    2727     2772    7227    7272       7722     2777       7277      7727      7772      7777

3333    3338     3383   3833    8333    3388    3838     3883    8338    8383       8833     3888       8388      8838      8883      8888

4444    4449     4494   4944    9444    4499    4949     4994    9449    9494       9944     4999       9499      9949      9994      9999

Additional Modifications to the Pi Strategy:

Another Twist that Kola did was to change the value of Pi, from 3.14159 to just 3.

The 2 important updates are: [Taken from page 23 of http://www.lotterypost.com/thread/245420: Note: [This is a NEW 23 page thread by Kola]

The Pi value being used will no longer be 3.14159265. It will just be 3. Scandalous right? Yeah, it rankles me too, but I have to be true to the "spirit" of the Pick 3 game as it applies in the Rings of Pi. Whimsically speaking, I'm changing Pi from an "irrational" number to a rational one, for various reasons. Also  remember that  in this system you  increase the value of Pi the higher the ring.

so use:

Tier 1 :  PI = 3

Tier 2:  2Pi = 6

Tier 3: 3Pi = 9

IMPORTANT:

The system is best used by separating midday and evening, and the basic steps are indicated above. If you want to combine both midday and evening, there is an extra, but important step you must follow. Let's say, for instance, you want to use the last midday and evening draw to find the next midday draw, the extra step is that you first have to subtract the last draw from "999". The result you get will be the new last draw. So for example:

last draw:   evening  357 (Tier 2) [Dominant Draw]

2nd last draw: midday 725 (Tier  3)

Now subtract 357 from 999, which is

999

-357

-------

= 642 (Tier 2)  becomes the new last draw.

Now proceed as usual by putting both numbers in the same Tier, or rather the 2nd last draw [725 - Tier 3] into the new last draw's Tier [642 - Tier 2]. You do this by adding or subtracting 333 or 666.  In this case, subtract 333 from 725.

725 (Tier 3)

-333

-------

= 392 (Tier 2) = New 2nd to last draw

Now find "X", which is the average number of the 2 draws and plug it into the Pi formula.

So add 392 + 642 = 1034. Find average number by dividing 1034 by 2

X= 1034 / 2 = 517 = Your "X" value -  Tier 2 - Use New 2Pi ["6"]

plug into formula:

[ (x / 2Pi) + C ]

[ (517 / 6) + C] = 86.1666 + C =  "C" or "YYY" = + 111, 222, 333, 444, 555, 666, 777, 888, 999

= 86.1666  + 111 = 197.1666

"  .......... "   + 222 = 308.1666

and etc...

Hopefully the above was clear. The steps  literally takes just a minute to do be hand. It seems long only because of the detailed instruction.  Good luck!

As you can see, there are a lot of twists and nuances to figuring out how the Pi System can work best for winning in any given state.  It is all  matter or trial and error, and no particular method is right or wrong. The answer is, whatever works best to WIN !!!

Kola used Regular Math in his Pi Strategy, rather than Lottery Math.  Obviously, you can try Lottery Math, and see if Lottery Math works better.

Bigdaddy posted that he does not use Lottery Math or "Mirror Integer" values.  Bigdaddy also uses some Pair Strategy by Lakerben to filter his results.  Bigdaddy has obviously modified the original Pi Strategy, and created his own version of the Pi Strategy, that works well in Tennessee.

> Hope this helps to get people THINKING !!!  Good Luck.

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What do you call this homie?  Brainpower.  If you are jealous get over it.

Call the lotto commision!

A little controversial at times.......maybe, but never jealous. You forget our little exchange a while back before you erased your new/old signature about encouraging people to develop their own system. Well I did just that and I did it w/o  the help of one (1) lakerben. So perhaps the word jealous is the other way around !

Sometimes it's extremely difficult if not practically impossible to get people to disregard the smoke and mirrors.  Instead, they seem to enjoy the ride down the proverbial Garden Path....... helpless to extricate themselves from being totally deceived by known forces in their midst who would argue that they have come here for the sole purpose of helping people.......str8ca\$hhomie

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A little controversial at times.......maybe, but never jealous. You forget our little exchange a while back before you erased your new/old signature about encouraging people to develop their own system. Well I did just that and I did it w/o  the help of one (1) lakerben. So perhaps the word jealous is the other way around !

Congrats you are helping yourself!  I have not seen your system.  Where is it?

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Good job amber!

But,oh my goodness a hijack!  Just kidding.  Brace yourself the birds are circling the thread and ready to pounce!

Thanks, but there was luck too.

Anyways, based on yesterday's Florida winner midday 232, I applied this number to the calculations and used some of the numbers in conjunction with my "best pair system" and my "front and back pair" system. Below are my predictions for today mid,

728 028 848 284 228 214 408 628 826 874 287

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Congrats you are helping yourself!  I have not seen your system.  Where is it?

Rest assurred ,lakerben, that there are more pretenders than there are contenders when it comes to winning lottery systems.

Sometimes it's extremely difficult if not practically impossible to get people to disregard the smoke and mirrors.  Instead, they seem to enjoy the ride down the proverbial Garden Path....... helpless to extricate themselves from being totally deceived by known forces in their midst who would argue that they have come here for the sole purpose of helping people.......str8ca\$hhomie

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Rest assurred ,lakerben, that there are more pretenders than there are contenders when it comes to winning lottery systems.

I almost teared up that you are doing good.

I'm busy time for me to go get tickets.

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Thanks, but there was luck too.

Anyways, based on yesterday's Florida winner midday 232, I applied this number to the calculations and used some of the numbers in conjunction with my "best pair system" and my "front and back pair" system. Below are my predictions for today mid,

728 028 848 284 228 214 408 628 826 874 287

232 times 3.14 =728.48

232÷3.14= 73.89