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# BigDaddy's Pi Formula: X/n + YYY

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This does not represent Kola's Pi Formula StrategyWhat kind of Pi Formula are you using here ??

Looks like one of Amber's idk.

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the variables that matter are x=previous draws back I use 3-8 back 6 plays per draw...

yyy,yyyy and yyyyy for there respective games...each y can be seen as a separate 0-9 game and adjustable

This has been asked numerous times so why not again ..... Forget the yyy yyyy yyyyy ......  Instead use an "actual" draw and put "real" numbers 0-9 in place of the y so we can all see that this REALLY works.  All I read is BigDaddy has given us a wealth of information but "no one" can actually PROVE this works.  Let's see the 82% accuracy.  This is a pick 3 or pick 4 system OMG it's not like were adking for a winning jackpot system.

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If you have questions about the Rings of Pi Strategy, you should probably READ Kola's original thread, or PM either Kola or Bigdaddy, since they both have more insight into a strategy that they have been using for some time.  Bigdaddy may have modified Kola's original Pi system, to work better for his home state of Tennessee.

There are a number of other twists and nuances in the Pi Strategy, that Kola discusses in his 18 page thread. For example, Kola suggested the additional modification of using the Mirror Values of the "YYY" integers to Add to the Pi formula, which leaves you with 40 numbers to play, rather than just 9 numbers.  Personally, I think 40 numbers is too many, but this "mirror" twist may allow for more accuracy in hitting the winning number.

Modifications to the Pi Strategy:

In step 4 above you added the "C" or "YYY" Integer Values. Well now we're going to add the constants and their Mirrors to the value of "(X / Pi)"  = [(X / Pi) + YYY (Integers + Mirrors].

They are:

Integer >>>>>>  Mirrors

000 >>>>>>>>> 005, 050, 500

111 >>>>>>>>> 116, 161, 611

222 >>>>>>>>> 227, 272, 722

333 >>>>>>>>> 338, 383, 833

444 >>>>>>>>> 449, 494, 944

555 >>>>>>>>> 550, 505, 055

666>>>>>>>>>> 661, 616, 166

777 >>>>>>>>> 772, 727, 277

888>>>>>>>>>> 883, 838, 388

999>>>>>>>>>> 994, 949, 499

An example of the above.

We will use the PI formula of (X / P ) + C

Remember

Tier 1 = numbers 000 to 333.  For this tier use 1PI value of 3.14159

Tier 2 = numbers 333 to 666.  For this tier use 2PI value of 6.28318

Tier 3 = numbers 666 to 999.  For this tier use 3PI value of 9.42477

Midday Draw = 789  = Tier 3

Evening Draw = 334 = Tier 2 - Last Draw - DOMINANT DRAW

334 is the last draw and is in Tier 2. Change the Tier 3 draw of 789 into a Tier 2 draw. You do it by adding or subtracting by 333 or 666

789 - 333 = 456

So now add 456 + 334 = 790. Divide 790 by 2 to find average number...

790/2 = 395. 395  = This is your "X" variable of the PI formula - TIER 2 - Use 2Pi

(X / 2Pi) = 395/6.28318 = 62.866

Add Integers and Mirrors to Seed Number  of 62.866. This gives you 40 numbers to work with.

1.  000 + 62.866 =   62.866

2.  005 + 62.866 =  67.866

3.  050 + 62.866 =  112.866

4.  500 + 62.866 =  562.866

5.  555 + 62.866  =  617.8

6.  550 +.................=  612.8

7.   505 +................=  567.8

8.   055 +...............=   117.8

9.   111 +..................=  173.8

10.  116 +.................=  178.8

11.  161 +.................=   223.8

12.  611 +................=   673.8

13.  666 +..............=   728.8

14.  661 +................=  723.8

15.  616 +................=   678.8

16.  166 +.................=  228.8

17.  222 +................=  284.8

18.  227....................=   289.8

19.  272....................=  334.8

20.  722....................=  784.8

21.  777.....................=  839.8

22.  772.....................=  834.8

23.  727.....................=  789.8

24.  277.....................=  339.8

25.  333.....................=  395.8

26.  338.....................=  400.8

27.  383.....................=  445.8

28.  833.....................=  894.8

29.  888.....................= 950.8

30.  883.....................= 945.8

31.  838......................= 900.8

32.  388......................= 480.8

33.  444......................= 506.8

34.  449......................= 511.8

35.  494......................= 556.8

36.  944......................= 1006.8

37.  994......................= 1056.8

38.  949......................= 1001.8

39.  499.......................= 561.8

40.  999.......................= 1061.8 [This number actually works out to be 062.8 ( Add 1 to the 1, to end up with a 3 digit number).

Here are the additional "Mirror" Integer Values to add to [(X / Pi) + "YYYY" ] for Pick 4:

Taken from page 17 of Kola's thread.

In the Pick 4, there would be 80 circumference constants, because its a larger matrix. Here they are:

1.         2.         3.         4.         5.         6.         7.         8.         9.         10.         11.         12.         13.         14.           15.         16.

0000    0005     0050   0500    5000    0055    0505     0550    5005    5050       5500     0555       5055      5505      5550      5555

1111    1116     1161   1611    6111    1166    1616     1661    6116    6161       6611     1666       6166      6616      6661      6666

2222    2227     2272   2722    7222    2277    2727     2772    7227    7272       7722     2777       7277      7727      7772      7777

3333    3338     3383   3833    8333    3388    3838     3883    8338    8383       8833     3888       8388      8838      8883      8888

4444    4449     4494   4944    9444    4499    4949     4994    9449    9494       9944     4999       9499      9949      9994      9999

Additional Modifications to the Pi Strategy:

Another Twist that Kola did was to change the value of Pi, from 3.14159 to just 3.

The 2 important updates are: [Taken from page 23 of http://www.lotterypost.com/thread/245420: Note: [This is a NEW 23 page thread by Kola]

The Pi value being used will no longer be 3.14159265. It will just be 3. Scandalous right? Yeah, it rankles me too, but I have to be true to the "spirit" of the Pick 3 game as it applies in the Rings of Pi. Whimsically speaking, I'm changing Pi from an "irrational" number to a rational one, for various reasons. Also  remember that  in this system you  increase the value of Pi the higher the ring.

so use:

Tier 1 :  PI = 3

Tier 2:  2Pi = 6

Tier 3: 3Pi = 9

IMPORTANT:

The system is best used by separating midday and evening, and the basic steps are indicated above. If you want to combine both midday and evening, there is an extra, but important step you must follow. Let's say, for instance, you want to use the last midday and evening draw to find the next midday draw, the extra step is that you first have to subtract the last draw from "999". The result you get will be the new last draw. So for example:

last draw:   evening  357 (Tier 2) [Dominant Draw]

2nd last draw: midday 725 (Tier  3)

Now subtract 357 from 999, which is

999

-357

-------

= 642 (Tier 2)  becomes the new last draw.

Now proceed as usual by putting both numbers in the same Tier, or rather the 2nd last draw [725 - Tier 3] into the new last draw's Tier [642 - Tier 2]. You do this by adding or subtracting 333 or 666.  In this case, subtract 333 from 725.

725 (Tier 3)

-333

-------

= 392 (Tier 2) = New 2nd to last draw

Now find "X", which is the average number of the 2 draws and plug it into the Pi formula.

So add 392 + 642 = 1034. Find average number by dividing 1034 by 2

X= 1034 / 2 = 517 = Your "X" value -  Tier 2 - Use New 2Pi ["6"]

plug into formula:

[ (x / 2Pi) + C ]

[ (517 / 6) + C] = 86.1666 + C =  "C" or "YYY" = + 111, 222, 333, 444, 555, 666, 777, 888, 999

= 86.1666  + 111 = 197.1666

"  .......... "   + 222 = 308.1666

and etc...

Hopefully the above was clear. The steps  literally takes just a minute to do be hand. It seems long only because of the detailed instruction.  Good luck!

As you can see, there are a lot of twists and nuances to figuring out how the Pi System can work best for winning in any given state.  It is all  matter or trial and error, and no particular method is right or wrong. The answer is, whatever works best to WIN !!!

Kola used Regular Math in his Pi Strategy, rather than Lottery Math.  Obviously, you can try Lottery Math, and see if Lottery Math works better.

Bigdaddy posted that he does not use Lottery Math or "Mirror Integer" values.  Bigdaddy also uses some Pair Strategy by Lakerben to filter his results.  Bigdaddy has obviously modified the original Pi Strategy, and created his own version of the Pi Strategy, that works well in Tennessee.

> Hope this helps to get people THINKING !!!  Good Luck.

is th explanation the SAME data on the spreadsheet or is this in addition to the spreadsheet?

back testing has done hits using the ring spreadsheet but not enough to buy a dinner outside of macDonalds every now and then

what am I missing please and I throw no flames , I only bring out the obvious

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is th explanation the SAME data on the spreadsheet or is this in addition to the spreadsheet?

back testing has done hits using the ring spreadsheet but not enough to buy a dinner outside of macDonalds every now and then

what am I missing please and I throw no flames , I only bring out the obvious

cheers

I cannot answer this question, b/c  I don't know what spreadsheet you're talking about.  I do not use Excel or any other computer software for lottery strategy, and I never work with the spreadsheet links that people like to post on LPI do all lottery strategy by pen and paper.

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kola and rings of pi are awesome and he is quite intelligent..he pushed me to think outside the box back in 2007 when I was researching pi..it took a simplistic approach and looked at both draws back and integers in a trap set approach my 2 integers allow for that.

What is your Trap Set Approach, and what 2 Integers do you use for "YYY" ???

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I cannot answer this question, b/c  I don't know what spreadsheet you're talking about.  I do not use Excel or any other computer software for lottery strategy, and I never work with the spreadsheet links that people like to post on LPI do all lottery strategy by pen and paper.

I Destiny it's the Rings of Pi spreadsheet on that same link you provided and explained

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lakerben's knockout p3/key pairs and wheelers +22 are awesome pair finders

destiny I use the calculator on my iPhone and pen/paper too

i use pair to eliminate combos from my playlist

Pi is the way...

turning \$30 or less into thousands everyday!!

here we go steelers ..here we go---------stairway to seven

TIME FOR THE LOMBARDI TROPHY TO  COME  HOME..

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Yes. That is precisely why I started my post with:

I did read the Kola descriptions and variations. I understand there are different ways to look at it and my state might be different.  Bigdaddy appears to have found something specific in regards to rng which my state is. Hence, I ask him  for some additional info about what he is doing.

on another note, something doesn't seem right about a Pi system that changes what Pi is. Pi is Pi. Its not 3. If you just use 3 then it is a 3 system.

Hello Wisconsin3054,

Yes, changing Pi to 3 so bothered me too that for a week thereafter, as I laid me down to sleep, I'd fitfully moan and cry a little, lol. Seriously, it did rankle me and it still does. I was trying to find my way around a particular knot in my line of thinking and the only way I could resolve it was by changing the Pi value. I was extremely resistant to it, but I had to stay faithful to the structure of Rings as it was conceived.  After that thread closed, I realized the structure may in fact "wiggle" a bit, and wished I could've posted that players had the option of using 3, or 3.14159. I suspect the 3 is better, but its never been thoroughly tested.

Legend says that The Craggy One was once asked about the Lottery Circle and the aged Lottery LoreKeeper whispered in his gravelly eloquence,"It is known among our kind that 2 successive draws are in reality the 2 center-points of 2 intersecting circles that share a common radius - a Root Center. This Vesica Piscis is the creative womb for all numbers, the Still Point from which two draws will unite & a new one is born. This "perfect" space is a wormhole through Time(Change). Master its proportions & your numerical predictions will not falter".

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kola and rings of pi are awesome and he is quite intelligent..he pushed me to think outside the box back in 2007 when I was researching pi..it took a simplistic approach and looked at both draws back and integers in a trap set approach my 2 integers allow for that.

Thanks bigdaddy, you pushed me too. Very much so...

Compared to your system, The Rings of Pi is only just a beginning. It's a solid foundation with a good wide net that mainly uses the past 2 draws to capture the winning number. Even with this 2 draw limitation, one will get consistent hits, but some winning numbers are bound to be sieved out. Knowing this, I did say that more past draws could be used. I strongly encouraged others to play with this system and go deeper, because I could not. Its development was only supposed to be a little break from my longstanding work on a different system.

Bigdaddy, your system is more exacting, especially so if you are going back 3 to 8 draws and playing 6 picks per draw. That's very smart coverage and well done.

Legend says that The Craggy One was once asked about the Lottery Circle and the aged Lottery LoreKeeper whispered in his gravelly eloquence,"It is known among our kind that 2 successive draws are in reality the 2 center-points of 2 intersecting circles that share a common radius - a Root Center. This Vesica Piscis is the creative womb for all numbers, the Still Point from which two draws will unite & a new one is born. This "perfect" space is a wormhole through Time(Change). Master its proportions & your numerical predictions will not falter".

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is th explanation the SAME data on the spreadsheet or is this in addition to the spreadsheet?

back testing has done hits using the ring spreadsheet but not enough to buy a dinner outside of macDonalds every now and then

what am I missing please and I throw no flames , I only bring out the obvious

cheers

Hello lamaka10,

I don't know if you downloaded Rings with the additional mirrors or without them, but if your state is a non-RNG state, you should see some consistent hits, especially with the important addendums I added to the system. While the addendums were posted on the thread, they have not yet been implemented into the spreadsheet.

Good luck!

Legend says that The Craggy One was once asked about the Lottery Circle and the aged Lottery LoreKeeper whispered in his gravelly eloquence,"It is known among our kind that 2 successive draws are in reality the 2 center-points of 2 intersecting circles that share a common radius - a Root Center. This Vesica Piscis is the creative womb for all numbers, the Still Point from which two draws will unite & a new one is born. This "perfect" space is a wormhole through Time(Change). Master its proportions & your numerical predictions will not falter".

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Bigdaddy, what do you mean by "YYY, YYYY, and YYYYY for their respective games [Pick 3/4/5]... each Y can be seen as a separate 0 - 9 game and adjustable."

What does the underlined part of this statement mean ???

I understand that you use  3 - 8 draws to calculate the "X" value. What does " 6 plays per draw mean " ?? Do you mean that you hold your play group for 6 draws, before re-doing the workout again ??

What 2 Integer Values ["C" or "YYY"] do you use in the Pi formula ???

Which Pi Formula do you use ??? Have you modified Kola's original 4 Pi Formulas ??

Do you use single Pi, 2Pi, or 3Pi ??

Do you use the Tier methodology, synchronizing all of the drawings to the same Tier ??

How do you use Lakerben's Pair Strategy with the Pi Formula ???  Which Pair Strategy do you use, b/c Lakerben has posted many Pair Strategies over the years ???

Bigdaddy, You stated in another thread, that you regularly piss on the Tennessee Lottery, by collecting big paychecks weekly.    Are you actually using a modified version of the Pi Strategy to relieve yourself at the expense of the Tennessee Lottery ???   The rest of us want to relieve our financial stress factor in the same manner !!    Please advise !!!

Ms. destinycreation, you are quite a force of nature, lol. I admire your thorough tenacity and the penchant to leave no stone unturned. You've always been this way. I also appreciate the uniquely creative ways you express yourself in your posts. Thanks for the interesting thread!

Legend says that The Craggy One was once asked about the Lottery Circle and the aged Lottery LoreKeeper whispered in his gravelly eloquence,"It is known among our kind that 2 successive draws are in reality the 2 center-points of 2 intersecting circles that share a common radius - a Root Center. This Vesica Piscis is the creative womb for all numbers, the Still Point from which two draws will unite & a new one is born. This "perfect" space is a wormhole through Time(Change). Master its proportions & your numerical predictions will not falter".

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Bigdaddy, what do you mean by "YYY, YYYY, and YYYYY for their respective games [Pick 3/4/5]... each Y can be seen as a separate 0 - 9 game and adjustable."

What does the underlined part of this statement mean ???

I understand that you use  3 - 8 draws to calculate the "X" value. What does " 6 plays per draw mean " ?? Do you mean that you hold your play group for 6 draws, before re-doing the workout again ??

What 2 Integer Values ["C" or "YYY"] do you use in the Pi formula ???

Which Pi Formula do you use ??? Have you modified Kola's original 4 Pi Formulas ??

Do you use single Pi, 2Pi, or 3Pi ??

Do you use the Tier methodology, synchronizing all of the drawings to the same Tier ??

How do you use Lakerben's Pair Strategy with the Pi Formula ???  Which Pair Strategy do you use, b/c Lakerben has posted many Pair Strategies over the years ???

Bigdaddy, You stated in another thread, that you regularly piss on the Tennessee Lottery, by collecting big paychecks weekly.    Are you actually using a modified version of the Pi Strategy to relieve yourself at the expense of the Tennessee Lottery ???   The rest of us want to relieve our financial stress factor in the same manner !!    Please advise !!!

The basic equation is x/pi+666

x to me is the 3rd to 8th draw back..

pi is pi on calc.

yyy the most common one is 666,each of the 666 numbers is adjustable 0-9...I think I did skips of 5 from 000 to 999 and went back 400 draws and a pattern showed up..

Pi is the way...

turning \$30 or less into thousands everyday!!

here we go steelers ..here we go---------stairway to seven

TIME FOR THE LOMBARDI TROPHY TO  COME  HOME..

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lakerben's knockout p3/key pairs and wheelers +22 are awesome pair finders

destiny I use the calculator on my iPhone and pen/paper too

i use pair to eliminate combos from my playlist

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The basic equation is x/pi+666

x to me is the 3rd to 8th draw back..

pi is pi on calc.

yyy the most common one is 666,each of the 666 numbers is adjustable 0-9...I think I did skips of 5 from 000 to 999 and went back 400 draws and a pattern showed up..

Hi there!

I could be wrong but there was a program years ago easy devil by sflippo that used variations with permutations of this formula.