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Posted: March 3, 2005, 3:12 pm - IP Logged

I have a lottery program that constantly being developed, and I am after new and unique ideas for future releases.

Currently I am working on graphs, pie charts and line charts.

What would you as users like to see these charts disply?

Just to let you all know what I am talking about see the current version here

Also I would like some improved wheels for the next release

Here is what LSA can generate at this time, if you can improve on any one of these please post the wheel


Wheel = [3 Win] 8 number wheel, currently covers 56 three ball combos in 4 Lines
Wheel = [3 Win] 9 number wheel, currently covers 84 three ball combos in 7 Lines
Wheel = [3 Win] 10 number wheel, currently covers 120 three ball combos in 10 Lines
Wheel = [3 Win] 11 number wheel, currently covers 165 three ball combos in 13 Lines
Wheel = [3 Win] 12 number wheel, currently covers 220 three ball combos in 15 Lines
Wheel = [3 Win] 13 number wheel, currently covers 286 three ball combos in 23 Lines
Wheel = [3 Win] 14 number wheel, currently covers 364 three ball combos in 25 Lines
Wheel = [3 Win] 15 number wheel, currently covers 455 three ball combos in 31 Lines
Wheel = [3 Win] 16 number wheel, currently covers 560 three ball combos in 42 Lines
Wheel = [3 Win] 17 number wheel, currently covers 680 three ball combos in 49 Lines
Wheel = [3 Win] 18 number wheel, currently covers 816 three ball combos in 57 Lines
Wheel = [3 Win] 19 number wheel, currently covers 969 three ball combos in 70 Lines
Wheel = [3 Win] 20 number wheel, currently covers 1140 three ball combos in 84 Lines
Wheel = [3 Win] 6 number wheel, currently covers 20 three ball combos in 4 Lines
Wheel = [3 Win] 7 number wheel, currently covers 35 three ball combos in 5 Lines
Wheel = [3 Win] 8 number wheel, currently covers 56 three ball combos in 8 Lines
Wheel = [3 Win] 9 number wheel, currently covers 84 three ball combos in 12 Lines
Wheel = [3 Win] 10 number wheel, currently covers 120 three ball combos in 18 Lines
Wheel = [3 Win] 11 number wheel, currently covers 165 three ball combos in 22 Lines
Wheel = [3 Win] 12 number wheel, currently covers 220 three ball combos in 31 Lines
Wheel = [3 Win] 13 number wheel, currently covers 286 three ball combos in 38 Lines
Wheel = [3 Win] 14 number wheel, currently covers 364 three ball combos in 49 Lines
Wheel = [3 Win] 15 number wheel, currently covers 455 three ball combos in 60 Lines
Wheel = [3 Win] 16 number wheel, currently covers 560 three ball combos in 69 Lines
Wheel = [3 Win] 17 number wheel, currently covers 680 three ball combos in 86 Lines
Wheel = [3 Win] 18 number wheel, currently covers 816 three ball combos in 105 Lines
Wheel = [3 Win] 5 number wheel, currently covers 10 three ball combos in 4 Lines
Wheel = [3 Win] 6 number wheel, currently covers 20 three ball combos in 6 Lines
Wheel = [3 Win] 7 number wheel, currently covers 35 three ball combos in 12 Lines
Wheel = [3 Win] 8 number wheel, currently covers 56 three ball combos in 14 Lines
Wheel = [3 Win] 9 number wheel, currently covers 84 three ball combos in 25 Lines
Wheel = [3 Win] 10 number wheel, currently covers 120 three ball combos in 30 Lines

Wheel = [4 Win] 7 number wheel, currently covers 35 four ball combos in 5 Lines
Wheel = [4 Win] 8 number wheel, currently covers 70 four ball combos in 7 Lines
Wheel = [4 Win] 9 number wheel, currently covers 126 four ball combos in 12 Lines
Wheel = [4 Win] 10 number wheel, currently covers 210 four ball combos in 20 Lines
Wheel = [4 Win] 11 number wheel, currently covers 330 four ball combos in 35 Lines
Wheel = [4 Win] 12 number wheel, currently covers 495 four ball combos in 49 Lines
Wheel = [4 Win] 13 number wheel, currently covers 715 four ball combos in 72 Lines
Wheel = [4 Win] 6 number wheel, currently covers 15 four ball combos in 5 Lines
Wheel = [4 Win] 7 number wheel, currently covers 35 four ball combos in 9 Lines
Wheel = [4 Win] 8 number wheel, currently covers 70 four ball combos in 21 Lines
Wheel = [4 Win] 9 number wheel, currently covers 70 four ball combos in 30 Lines
Wheel = [4 Win] 10 number wheel, currently covers 210 four ball combos in 52 Lines
Wheel = [4 Win] 14 number wheel, currently covers 1001 four ball combos in 99 Lines
Wheel = [4 Win] 15 number wheel, currently covers 1365 four ball combos in 132 Lines
Wheel = [4 Win] 16 number wheel, currently covers 1820 four ball combos in 177 Lines
Wheel = [4 Win] 11 number wheel, currently covers 330 four ball combos in 66 Lines
Wheel = [4 Win] 12 number wheel, currently covers 495 four ball combos in 121 Lines
Wheel = [4 Win] 13 number wheel, currently covers 715 four ball combos in 161 Lines

Wheel = [5 Win] 7 number wheel, currently covers 21 five ball combos in 6 Lines
Wheel = [5 Win] 8 number wheel, currently covers 56 five ball combos in 12 Lines
Wheel = [5 Win] 9 number wheel, currently covers 126 five ball combos in 32 Lines
Wheel = [5 Win] 10 number wheel, currently covers 256 five ball combos in 50 Lines
Wheel = [5 Win] 11 number wheel, currently covers 462 five ball combos in 102 Lines
Wheel = [5 Win] 12 number wheel, currently covers 792 five ball combos in 132 Lines

 

Regards Developer

It has been said every software has a bug in it, it has also been said that every program can be reduced by one line of code.

There for any program can be reduced to 1 line that dont work.

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    Posted: March 3, 2005, 3:53 pm - IP Logged

    Ideas for graphs, Here are some of the graphs currently coming in v4

    I would like some constructive criticism to help improve anything about these graphs

    This graph shows ball totals for every month, a little hard to see whats going on so I made it posible to focus on any month or all like so, this is November

     

    I would also like improvment ideas for the following which shows numbers in groups

    and

    and

    All ideas and improvments are very welcome

    It has been said every software has a bug in it, it has also been said that every program can be reduced by one line of code.

    There for any program can be reduced to 1 line that dont work.

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      Posted: March 3, 2005, 3:59 pm - IP Logged

      By the way all charts and graphs are controlled by a from date to an end date and days and months filter as in the pic below

      And is very quick

      It has been said every software has a bug in it, it has also been said that every program can be reduced by one line of code.

      There for any program can be reduced to 1 line that dont work.

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        What about a chart that looks at multiple counts such as ALL games, 2 years, 1 Year, 6 Months, 30 days, etc...? I currently do one similiar to that for the Megamillion. Haven't won anything that way, but it looks interesting.

        Sir Metro

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          Posted: March 4, 2005, 4:05 am - IP Logged

          Developer,

          I am not sure how ro interpret your list of wheels correctly.

          Please can you provide a dtailed explanation.

          Cheers,

          Datenda

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            Posted: March 4, 2005, 3:58 pm - IP Logged

             Thats a good idea, had to read your post 3 times to get it but I like it.

            I will do that

             

            Thanks

            It has been said every software has a bug in it, it has also been said that every program can be reduced by one line of code.

            There for any program can be reduced to 1 line that dont work.

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              Posted: March 5, 2005, 1:37 am - IP Logged

              The only useful purpose of charts and graphs would be if they point to the numbers that will be the winners in the next draw and you have to use a chart or graph because for some reason you can't translate the information into a list of numbers with greater win potential.

              All the bells and whistles are a smoke screen for a program that can't predict winning numbers out of a wheelable field often enough to be useful.  They do not make the product worth one cent if the program doesn't do what people buy it for which is to win the lottery.

              It's like making a movie entirely out of special effects.  Since the eighties we've had software developers link a data base to a graphs program for lotto and dump in a collection of wheels. 

              Programs already in existance have just about every type of chart players have ever thought to ask for.  It comes down to this . . . put some numbered rocks in a coffee can and tell me how you would predict which ones will shake out.  If you can't do better then probability you won't have a valid offering.  Frankly some software does worse then probabilty would suggest, so a program that doesn't make it harder to win could be better then some of the crap out there shreading money.

              We're hoping you have the bright ideas.  BobP

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                Very well said BobP, just one correction to what you mention: if a program can constantly do worse than probability, then in fact this means it does work if we use it negatively. The worst scenario is when we have results close to classic probability. Then, whatever comes out cannot be used with confidence. As far as we move away from the classic probability, the better on both ends.

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                  Quote: Originally posted by BobP on March 5, 2005


                  The only useful purpose of charts and graphs would be if they point to the numbers that will be the winners........

                  All the bells and whistles are a smoke screen for a program that can't predict winning numbers................
                   




                  I'm not aware of any program that can pick numbers any better than a RNG working within the same parameters, so if it doesn't have some bells and whistles, why buy it?  If it can't win any money, it should at least be entertaining.

                  RJOh 

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                    You're missing the point of modern computer ownership.  Charts and graphs are for spotting trends on paper.  You're supposed to program the computer to find the trend and use it to predict potential winning numbers for us to wheel and play.  I don't consider it entertainment to flush my money.

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                      They're on their way there. 

                      When they get there it's the end of lotteries as we know them.  If a piece of lottery software will predict the winners we're all going to own it.  So's everyone else.  Whole system goes kaput when that happens.

                      But if a person developed a piece of software capable of doing that, he'd probably have better sense than to release it.  He'd just buy the numbers as many times as he needed to in order to lie on a beach somewhere thinking about something besides writing software.

                      Jack

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                        charts, graphs and other sets of data confirm that lotteries are random dvents! The trend lines go up and down, back and forth, side to side, or any other way just as they should. If they don't, then there is something wrong with the drawing process.

                        Instead of making things complicated by generating charts that only another computer can interpret, why not just stick to the basic hot sheets for individual number sequences, overall and by position, etc. In other words, provide the data most serious lottery players keep with their paper and pencil schemes.

                        I have several sets of data that I use in deciding which numbers to use in building combinations to play.

                        None of the charts, etc, I see in the lottery software I'm familiar with, provide any useful help. One exception is software that provides suggested numbers to fit the wheels I play. Of course, even this kind of help doesn't always pay off.

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                          charts, graphs and other sets of data confirm that lotteries are random dvents!

                          Hi Bobby:

                          Evidently you and I haven't been looking at the same charts and graphs.  So far as I can tell there's nothing much random about the PB lottery.  Maybe about any of them. 

                          But I wish you luck on your software.

                          Jack

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                            Quote: Originally posted by Rip Snorter on March 14, 2005


                            If a piece of lottery software will predict the winners we're all going to own it. 

                            Jack







                            Only if we can afford it, or afford to cover all its predictions.  There are now people who claim they can pick a pool of numbers half the size of the lottery pool of numbers that will contain all the winning numbers half the time, but to cover all the possible combinations cost thousands of dollars.  Most players want to win the lottery with less than $50 worth of tickets or be part of a pool than win with less than $500 worth of tickets.  I doubt that such a program or system really exists because there are big time gamblers that would happily spent thousands of dollars if they were sure the payoffs were worth the gamble.

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                              I doubt that such a program or system really exists because there are big time gamblers that would happily spent thousands of dollars if they were sure the payoffs were worth the gamble.

                              Hiya: 

                              I'd have to agree with you on that.  I've known a good many wealthy men who had a preoccupation with becoming wealthier, who were serious risk-takers when they believed the risk was worth it.  Who were all-or-nothing gamblers to the point they'd been wealthy and near-homeless more than once.  I'm of the opinion if any men of that sort could be convinced a $10,000 piece of software and another $10K in tickets would buy him a jackpot, he'd do it in a heartbeat.  I also believe men of that sort are wired into just that sort of possibility, would know it if such a thing was out there.

                              Which isn't to suggest that I don't believe a 'system' can beat the lottery, both in jackpots and in regular draws.  I just don't believe a computer's going to find it.  I know a person who can usually predict 3 out of the 6 numbers on 3/4ths of the PB draws.  Sometimes better, often could have hit 2 more if there'd been $100 worth of tickets bought.  There weren't, for the most part, and there won't be until there's $100 worth of wins to buy them (which there have been, and which have been lost in subsequent draws). 

                              I've said before I believe the numbers behave in patterns demonstrable that repeat themselves.  I've also said before that I think a computer would have an awfully difficult time finding those patterns, which sometimes require looking in places even human beings have a difficult time abandoning logic and what we 'know' to be true, in order to see them.  We tell computers what we know and where to look, which creates an insurmountable handicap for them.

                              Peace,

                              Jack

                                 
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