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Quote: Originally posted by Matchmaker on May 28, 2009
How ironic is that I'm just a little ole Standard Member but, I know things that a PLATINUM MEMBER like yourself only wish they knew and could benefit greatly from?
You can teach as well, if it does not cost a thing, and if you are looking to teach with something in return then that defeats your claim of not asking for anything.
I love to fish for myself, who knows what if others give a rotten fish to eat? Haha
My membership status just indicate that I support this site financially, it does not signify what I know about the lottery. Don't assume such thing. Actually, I don't know anything. I pull numbers out of a magic hat.
There's something about new member coming in being a self-proclaimed genuis these days. LOL
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Matchmaker, why not just post a few numbers and be done with the whole thing? Seriously. You may end some of the skeptism if you just post a few of your numbers and prove the your program works. It's that simple. You keep arguing with members about this and that and if you just post a few numbers and show that your "program" can win something, you will probably have many members wanting to actually deal with you.
Right now, you are just spouting that you have the next best thing with this system and are providing no proof. Do you understand that is where the problem lies? You are new and nobody knows you...you are a stranger to us and RJOh is right, you aren't the first to make these type of claims. Many other newbies have come here and spouted the same rhetoric and it is always the same thing. They toot their own horn and brag about this and that, but won't put their money where their mouth is.
There is no need to give your system away. No one is asking that. Keep it a secret. That's ok. What people here are asking for is that you show some proof that you are on to something and not someone who is just wasting everyones time (like many before you). Just post some numbers for one of the drawings and see what happens. That may give people confidence in you. At this point, you are just a stranger and frankly, I don't see why you would think people should trust you.
Besides, people post sets of numbers all the time (Just check out the pick 3 and pick 4 section) and I promise, it really isn't that scary and it won't reveal your system. Is it really that hard to understand?
Really, I'm trying not to be rude, but at this point your whole thing with wanting a "business partner" and "investment" for your program seems...a bit fishy, like a scam. I hope people are careful when dealing with you and people like you who claim to want money or what not for starting a business for some lottery system or program. Especially, when they are brand new and all their posts are devoted to their business product.
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Quote: Originally posted by diamondpalace on May 28, 2009
You can teach as well, if it does not cost a thing, and if you are looking to teach with something in return then that defeats your claim of not asking for anything.
I love to fish for myself, who knows what if others give a rotten fish to eat? Haha
My membership status just indicate that I support this site financially, it does not signify what I know about the lottery. Don't assume such thing. Actually, I don't know anything. I pull numbers out of a magic hat.
There's something about new member coming in being a self-proclaimed genuis these days. LOL
A rotten fish? He he, I like that! Let's not beat a dead horse, okay. I did ask for an opportunity to show someone the material. That's all. Do you know why people apply for patents on things which they've discovered or developed? Okay, I'll tell you why. So that noone else can steal, sample, or duplicate their money-making idea without directly violating the law. Basically. Now, I'm nowhere this because it's just not necessary but neither will I just throw my numbers / material out there for everyone to benefit from before I can. I'm sure there are some very sharp individuals on this forum, Miss Palace, and I have enough respect for them to hold out until after I get going real good before I post information. See, I'm not a self-proclaimed genius in any sense of the word or phrase. Far from it in fact. I only claim to know what I know and, be able to prove it to the right person(s).
You pull numbers out of hat just as the ball machine sucks out one ball from each container, or how the computer simply generates a number. This is the simplest and most effective means of playing and you have no idea of just how close you really are to being a lottery CONSISTENT WINNER instead of just a PLAYER. Don't take this the wrong way but, I like you. Why? You say you don't know anything which means you'd be the easiest to teach because your mind isn't already cluttered with stuff that doesn't work efficiently. No, I'm not trying to smooth talk you or anything. Just being perfectly frank. Granted, I'm a spankin' brand new member here. I also brought my friend, New Approach.I love me some Pick 4!!!!
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Quote: Originally posted by ThatScaryChick on May 28, 2009
Matchmaker, why not just post a few numbers and be done with the whole thing? Seriously. You may end some of the skeptism if you just post a few of your numbers and prove the your program works. It's that simple. You keep arguing with members about this and that and if you just post a few numbers and show that your "program" can win something, you will probably have many members wanting to actually deal with you.
Right now, you are just spouting that you have the next best thing with this system and are providing no proof. Do you understand that is where the problem lies? You are new and nobody knows you...you are a stranger to us and RJOh is right, you aren't the first to make these type of claims. Many other newbies have come here and spouted the same rhetoric and it is always the same thing. They toot their own horn and brag about this and that, but won't put their money where their mouth is.
There is no need to give your system away. No one is asking that. Keep it a secret. That's ok. What people here are asking for is that you show some proof that you are on to something and not someone who is just wasting everyones time (like many before you). Just post some numbers for one of the drawings and see what happens. That may give people confidence in you. At this point, you are just a stranger and frankly, I don't see why you would think people should trust you.
Besides, people post sets of numbers all the time (Just check out the pick 3 and pick 4 section) and I promise, it really isn't that scary and it won't reveal your system. Is it really that hard to understand?
Really, I'm trying not to be rude, but at this point your whole thing with wanting a "business partner" and "investment" for your program seems...a bit fishy, like a scam. I hope people are careful when dealing with you and people like you who claim to want money or what not for starting a business for some lottery system or program. Especially, when they are brand new and all their posts are devoted to their business product.
I am considering that and I do suppose people are now accustomed to the same ole same ole. The thing is, Miss Scary, is that the trust would come as soon as they saw how it works in real time with a live drawing. I never asked for money in advance...I'd like to demonstrate fully what's going on here before any decision is made. Posting my numbers is one thing but, how the winning number arrives there consistently is more of a "why" type of ordeal. Not how. It's a process. Thanks for your advice and kindness in this.
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Quote: Originally posted by Matchmaker on May 28, 2009
I am considering that and I do suppose people are now accustomed to the same ole same ole. The thing is, Miss Scary, is that the trust would come as soon as they saw how it works in real time with a live drawing. I never asked for money in advance...I'd like to demonstrate fully what's going on here before any decision is made. Posting my numbers is one thing but, how the winning number arrives there consistently is more of a "why" type of ordeal. Not how. It's a process. Thanks for your advice and kindness in this.
I do hope you figure things out and I really wasn't trying to come off as rude, but people have to be cautious. There are many bad apples out there who try to take advantage of people and get them involved in scams or just mess around with people and their time.
Hopefully, you will post more around the forum and get to know everyone and take some of the advice given to you by other posters. It really isn't a bad place around here and maybe you will come up with some more ideas. Good luck to you.
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Quote: Originally posted by Matchmaker on May 28, 2009
Hi Todd! It's an honor to receive a reply from the actual Administrator! Allow me address every aspect of your response. First, you say that so many people before me have done the EXACT same thing but, I don't see any posts of winning Pick 3/4 consistently. Neither do I see any posts of of play Pick 3/4 at $1 per number and making the the money I know my program will. Apparently, Mr.RJOh has seen it all and still hasn't learned how to make the Pick 3/4 lottery his daily paycheck. No disrespect intended on my part here, either, and I hope to remain a member of this forum. If not, then you're the Administrator.
Every now and then, someone does come along with a better way of doing things than most all others before him, Todd. Do you agree? If not, then go back and check your history in any field you desire and you will see where persons, things, and ideas are often superceded. To be perfectly honest with you about this whole thing, I do share a very small percentage of the concepts contained in some of these predictions posted. Beyond that, it's all customized software which works like no other you'll ever see. No BS.
The person whom I had to perform all the work had no clue as to what he was really doing for me. Todd, software technology is where it's at with this game just as it is with everything else in the world. When you really want to find a way, you will find a way with no expense spared. What I'm seeing here is that people want to spend a little bit of money and win all of the money. I used to be like that 'till I looked over my Lottery Expense Report which contains Profit/Loss Margins. Do any of the people here treat this as a business like I do?
Probably not because it's considered money on the side for them. Listen, YOU CAN LIVE OFF OF CONSISTENT LOTTERY WINNINGS handsomely if you know what to do. Someone out there knows exactly what I'm talking about but, they're being just as low key about this as I am. I know I'm not the only who has figured out how to put the odds heavily in my favor. The person who told me to keep it to myself probably has a clue. If I could just sit down with YOU, Todd, crank up the laptop, pop in the thumb drive, and my "microchip", you'd see why I'm so confident in what I have Boss.
See, I haven't told anyone here to send me any money or anything of the sort. I proposed sitting down and revealing what I have to offer and allowing the individual to see the program in action for themselves. As humans, we're naturally afraid of what we're not familiar with especially when it comes to money. "A jealous man can't work for fear of another man and a scary man can't gamble for fear of losing". I've overcome both. Play a little and you win a little. Invest big and you win BIG, CONSISTENTLY. It was nice talking with you, Todd, and soon I will be posting winnings far above and beyond what you've ever seen in this forum, CONSISTENTLY. This is the basis which I function around. CONSISTENCE, not hit now, miss later, and what if's. I love the lottery!!!
The scheme changes but the song remains the same. One does not have to be a Pick 3 expert (or whatever the game is) to smell a scam. Because the fact is that if someone has a winning system to "comfortably live off the lottery", then they would be living comfortably and not trying to get money from a stranger.
It doesn't require any Pick 3 knowledge to figure that out.
I'd suggest that if you're trying to get people to buy-in to some lottery scheme, you'd be better off selling it through Google or something — not on a forum with thousands of seasoned players who can spot a scam from a mile away.
Even in the off-chance that it is NOT a scam, no seasoned player would ever invest the time and money, and enter into this kind of arrangement, because you have not presented any evidence that would make such a risk palatable. Don't you know, one of the keys to sales is that you must offer a nugget of proof to get people interested? Only a sucker would jump at the mentioning of some slick-talk.
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You wouldn't be giving away the secrets of your system by posting numbers for one week to see what happens, so everyone here at LP can see the results with actual statistics and not just your word, from someone we don't know.
If it's a program that you have to get your numbers, you're not giving it away by simply posting numbers on the predictions page. If it's a winning system you have, prove it.
Any "real" investor wouldn't do business with ANYONE without seeing the proof of the profits. Show us the numbers.
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I'm the new member here should have join years ago. As a new member of 2 months I knew that I had it. I had to show the LP family that I could as they say cut the mustard by posting and making predictions.I gave away alot of number on the forums, and I have never given away my whole system. I taught some people a few things that would help them. When you help people you get it back 110% good people protected you when you are good to them. My advice to you would be to not look for a partner keep it to yourself. The way I see it is without money you are not willing to share. In all honesty I wouldn't give away my system I would just share some of my hits to help other.
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Quote: Originally posted by Todd on May 28, 2009
The scheme changes but the song remains the same. One does not have to be a Pick 3 expert (or whatever the game is) to smell a scam. Because the fact is that if someone has a winning system to "comfortably live off the lottery", then they would be living comfortably and not trying to get money from a stranger.
It doesn't require any Pick 3 knowledge to figure that out.
I'd suggest that if you're trying to get people to buy-in to some lottery scheme, you'd be better off selling it through Google or something — not on a forum with thousands of seasoned players who can spot a scam from a mile away.
Even in the off-chance that it is NOT a scam, no seasoned player would ever invest the time and money, and enter into this kind of arrangement, because you have not presented any evidence that would make such a risk palatable. Don't you know, one of the keys to sales is that you must offer a nugget of proof to get people interested? Only a sucker would jump at the mentioning of some slick-talk.
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Quote: Originally posted by Matchmaker on May 26, 2009
Hello! I am new to this site but, not new by any means to the gaming world. For quite some time now I've been working on my system of generating numbers and believe it's finally ready. I realize that there are many, many systems available in the cyberworld which provide methods of matching numbers but, how many of them are at least 95% acurate 95% of the time? I sure hope I'm not beating a dead horse here. Based on simple yet effective data compilation, there are only (4) rules of thumb to follow which will allow you to CONSISTENTLY match any Pick3/4 drawing every time!
What I'm looking for is someone who is a serious lottery player and fully understands combinatorics to further discuss partnering up and winning very substantial amounts of money daily. This is no scam as I have all the material available for personal review. I WANT TO TALK REAL BUSINESS WITH A REAL PLAYER. Personally, I'm a fan of Pick 4 which is where I've devoted all of my time, money, and efforts into developing. It costs money to play a certain amount of numbers and that subtracted from the designated payout will be the profit margin. My Pick 4 program is tailored to make a minimum of $2,500 per play, consistently, and as much as $3,800 per play with strategic removal of LBC's (Low Probability Combinations).
Mind you, those profit margins are from playing only once a day. Multiply that by playing both drawings and you will understand where I'm trying to go. I'm not afraid to admit that I've lost lots of money in my research and development of this information but, it's also why I've learned how to perfect it to its' current 95% and up win ratio. This program is not designed to win today and not wing again for a couple of days or a week even. It's designed to win every time you play providing you follow the aforementioned (4) rules of thumb. I will provide real time training so you can see just how well it works. Thanks and I hope to find some friends and partners real soon!
I read and re-read your post and examined your replies.
It's your system use it to your own advantage.
Your claims are conflicting. Your intentions, iffy.
You put yourself out on a limb by posting here and not offering any proof of what you are
doing or how you are doing it besides your own over rated statistics.
I don't care if you have a system. Neither do a lot of other people here. When you put it
as you did, you might get a hopeful sucker to bite but certainly not a seasoned player.
Reading through the lines it appears you want to cover more possibilities than you can
afford yourself. That's not winning. That's not getting close. That's evening out or going
in the hole.
There is a difference between someone participating in a forum that is meant to aid all and who
freely gives hints, tips and predictions and someone who comes in claiming they have developed a
95% guaranteed system and needs an expenditure partner and will only release detailed infor-
mation/proof to them. Your proposition is not what this site is about.
You did know before posting that you'd get resistance but you were also hoping to snag a
partner.
Guaranteed ventures are best kept to yourself. No one to bicker with except you. You lose
the money yourself, make the money yourself, pat yourself on the back or kick yourself
in the rump.
There is no guarantee. You would not be here.
Go ahead, call me Miss or Mr, I know you'll be writing back.
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Quote: Originally posted by lottolaughs on May 28, 2009
I have a question. How much money are we talking about here to become your "partner"? I haven't seen a ballpark figure mentioned anywhere.
If he's talking about making a profit on a guaranteed pick3 box hit, it would have to be less than $50 or a guaranteed pick3 straight hit, it would probably be more than $50 but have to be less than $500. Who would want to partner up in a business deal to make lots of money with someone who couldn't scrape up $50? One or both would have to be on drugs.
* you don't need to buy every combination, just the winning ones *
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Quote: Originally posted by Todd on May 28, 2009
The scheme changes but the song remains the same. One does not have to be a Pick 3 expert (or whatever the game is) to smell a scam. Because the fact is that if someone has a winning system to "comfortably live off the lottery", then they would be living comfortably and not trying to get money from a stranger.
It doesn't require any Pick 3 knowledge to figure that out.
I'd suggest that if you're trying to get people to buy-in to some lottery scheme, you'd be better off selling it through Google or something — not on a forum with thousands of seasoned players who can spot a scam from a mile away.
Even in the off-chance that it is NOT a scam, no seasoned player would ever invest the time and money, and enter into this kind of arrangement, because you have not presented any evidence that would make such a risk palatable. Don't you know, one of the keys to sales is that you must offer a nugget of proof to get people interested? Only a sucker would jump at the mentioning of some slick-talk.
Fair enuff. Also, the reason I haven't been living comfortably is because I only just recently finished up with everything and completed all of the R&D for consistency. Not an excuse, just a fact. I suppose it is extremely hard to have an open mind to this after having closed your ears due to everyone else's claims which produced nothing. Just out of curiosty, how long have some of your "best well-seasoned" people been on this site?
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Quote: Originally posted by RJOh on May 28, 2009
If he's talking about making a profit on a guaranteed pick3 box hit, it would have to be less than $50 or a guaranteed pick3 straight hit, it would probably be more than $50 but have to be less than $500. Who would want to partner up in a business deal to make lots of money with someone who couldn't scrape up $50? One or both would have to be on drugs.
Hi Sir. I'm not talking about playing anything boxed...everything I play is straight and it costs more than $50 to play my Pick 3 program.