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Quote: Originally posted by lottolaughs on May 28, 2009
I have a question. How much money are we talking about here to become your "partner"? I haven't seen a ballpark figure mentioned anywhere.
In all honesty, I should've been more specific with the original thread because as RJOh said, a person would have to be on drugs to consider going in with a guy who can't muster up $50. I 've very briefly addressed that with him already, though. My idea was to try and jump right into the Pick 4 game which costs in the neighborhood of $1,500. This will safely and consistently generate a $750 profit every play. It is designed this way and if you know any kind of math, you'll see that the two numbers have something in common. $750 is half of $1,500 which means the initial investment is made back after only two wins. After this, you're making pure profit and now playing with "THEIR" money. Each time you wager now, they're putting up the money while yours is still in your pocket where it belongs.
Hey, I'm only answering this question because you asked. Before you go off on me along with everyone else, the $1,500 investment would be SPLIT BETWEEN ME AND MY PARTNER. I wouldn't dare ask anyone to front all that money alone just to help me, guy. There is so much more information surrounding this deal but, I can't talk about it on this forum due to the restrictions.
Listen, all I can safely say is that I wouldn't have access to any of your money AT ALL. The only thing I'd do is run the numbers and match them for us. I don't WANT anyone's money in the sense of "WANTING" it. This is a full program, not just a bunch of numbers thrown together in hopes of winning. There is only one person on here so far whom I truly believe understands what I'm trying to accomplish, but they can't talk due to restrictions as well.
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Quote: Originally posted by Surge on May 28, 2009
You wouldn't be giving away the secrets of your system by posting numbers for one week to see what happens, so everyone here at LP can see the results with actual statistics and not just your word, from someone we don't know.
If it's a program that you have to get your numbers, you're not giving it away by simply posting numbers on the predictions page. If it's a winning system you have, prove it.
Any "real" investor wouldn't do business with ANYONE without seeing the proof of the profits. Show us the numbers.
Hi Surge. I sort of agree with you and really want to flex my muscle but, there's a reason I can't. All of us here like playing with numbers, okay. All of us know how to read words and count numbers. But, there's a very small percentage of sharp guys just like me that how to READ NUMBERS. This is who I'm trying to stay away from for right now. Reading numbers in this business is an art form which only comes after days upon days and nights upon nights of sleeping and dreaming about digits and how they are related to each other based on two things.
Based on the replies I've received, I'm convinced that there are at least two individuals that know pretty much what I do. Difference is, we've applied them in different fashions which produce different results. Once set of results is more miss than hit and the other is a series of consistent hits with an occasional miss. Hence, when this miss occurs, it doesn't bother you because you're already so far ahead in profit that they're only getting back a little of what you won anyway.
Even then, if you were to go right back and play the very next drawing, you'd get that same money right back from them again. Surge, I've seriously done my homework in this regardless of all the bashing that I get. Nice to hear from you and if you have any questions about your numbers, feel free to ask.
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"The person whom I had perform all the work had no clue as to what he was really doing for me not knowing anything about the lottery" HMMMM!!!!
"Doesn't it make sense to be prepared for whatever can happen and be a winner?" LOL ".......costs in the neighborhood of $1,500" "This is a full program..." "Give all the numbers a chance to come to the party all the time and you'll be a winner every time."
"....but neither will I just throw my numbers/ material out there for everyone to benefit from before I can" INTERESTING
".......if your sharp you can simply look at someone's numbers and see whats going on with their system" At a cost of $1,500 plus I'm sure at least a few members here can figure out your system without even seeing your numbers!
And I can see why you refuse to post any predictions......your list would be long and honestly anyone with that kind of money to play your list could probably come up with their own list and do just as well!
AND LOL@ diamondpalace : )
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Quote: Originally posted by ca-dreamin* on May 28, 2009
"The person whom I had perform all the work had no clue as to what he was really doing for me not knowing anything about the lottery" HMMMM!!!!
"Doesn't it make sense to be prepared for whatever can happen and be a winner?" LOL ".......costs in the neighborhood of $1,500" "This is a full program..." "Give all the numbers a chance to come to the party all the time and you'll be a winner every time."
"....but neither will I just throw my numbers/ material out there for everyone to benefit from before I can" INTERESTING
".......if your sharp you can simply look at someone's numbers and see whats going on with their system" At a cost of $1,500 plus I'm sure at least a few members here can figure out your system without even seeing your numbers!
And I can see why you refuse to post any predictions......your list would be long and honestly anyone with that kind of money to play your list could probably come up with their own list and do just as well!
AND LOL@ diamondpalace : )
Way off base, cowboy. Yep, I did say all those things but they were meant in a context other than what you're trying to convey over to everyone. This is why you will continue to be "dreamin." Finally, I only have one question in regards to your last statement. Why aren't you or someone else doing it already if it's so easy to figure out without seeing? Know what I'm gonna do for everyone here? When I jump this thing off next week, I'm gonna try my best to somehow post my first two payouts on this site providing Todd will allow it and they won't be less than around $2500 each...FOR THE SAME WEEK.
It won't stop there, either. My mission now is to have everyone in this forum singing a different song. I have sealed the deal and am motivated by all this bashing and skepticsm! I've always been driven by making believers out of people. I never once claimed to know it all...I only know what I do about this game. From what I've gathered, all the people here are seasoned veterans who have been doing this for years on end. The administrator said this, not me.
Donald Trump is a seasoned veteran in his business and look at his financial status. Bill Gates is a seasoned veteran in his business and look at his financial status. Tiger Woods is a seasoned veteran and look at his status! The defense rests its' case.
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I hope you get your investor. Why don't you just play one of the cash 4 number make the cash that you need.
I'm begining to feel very bad for you. If your system work I beg you to use it to make the money.
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Quote: Originally posted by pepper1 on May 30, 2009
I hope you get your investor. Why don't you just play one of the cash 4 number make the cash that you need.
I'm begining to feel very bad for you. If your system work I beg you to use it to make the money.
I have taken your advice among many others here by shutting up and putting up because action does speak louder than words.
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Quote: Originally posted by Matchmaker on May 29, 2009
Way off base, cowboy. Yep, I did say all those things but they were meant in a context other than what you're trying to convey over to everyone. This is why you will continue to be "dreamin." Finally, I only have one question in regards to your last statement. Why aren't you or someone else doing it already if it's so easy to figure out without seeing? Know what I'm gonna do for everyone here? When I jump this thing off next week, I'm gonna try my best to somehow post my first two payouts on this site providing Todd will allow it and they won't be less than around $2500 each...FOR THE SAME WEEK.
It won't stop there, either. My mission now is to have everyone in this forum singing a different song. I have sealed the deal and am motivated by all this bashing and skepticsm! I've always been driven by making believers out of people. I never once claimed to know it all...I only know what I do about this game. From what I've gathered, all the people here are seasoned veterans who have been doing this for years on end. The administrator said this, not me.
Donald Trump is a seasoned veteran in his business and look at his financial status. Bill Gates is a seasoned veteran in his business and look at his financial status. Tiger Woods is a seasoned veteran and look at his status! The defense rests its' case.
HAHAHA don't let the fact that I live in the mid-west fool ya! I'm a "headbanger" and I've been called a valley-girl more than once! As for dreamin'......I lived the dream for 40 years!
And yes you did say those things.....simply bits and pieces that reveal more than you realize about your system.
As for the lottery......my third purchase of a CA lotto ticket (total cost $15) won me $2055 dollars! I took the $2,000 and invested it in some no-load stocks and eventually sold each at a profit. And NOOOOO I wasn't dreamin'!
As for your question........I have no doubt in my mind that several people on this website could take the bits and pieces of info you have revealed and figure out your system and come up with 1,500 lines to play.(Or various number of lines x multiple duplicate tickets) I also have no doubt that at a cost of $1,500 several members could come up with some pretty outragous systems to play on some of the other lottery games. Why aren't I or anyone else doing it? I don't play pick3/4 and I'm not going to waste my time trying to figure out what your system is.
And if I had $1,500 to blow on one game it wouldn't be pick 3/4!
I wish you the best with your system.....no one ever said it wouldn't work!
As for everyone being seasoned.....sorry not me!
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Quote: Originally posted by ca-dreamin* on May 30, 2009
HAHAHA don't let the fact that I live in the mid-west fool ya! I'm a "headbanger" and I've been called a valley-girl more than once! As for dreamin'......I lived the dream for 40 years!
And yes you did say those things.....simply bits and pieces that reveal more than you realize about your system.
As for the lottery......my third purchase of a CA lotto ticket (total cost $15) won me $2055 dollars! I took the $2,000 and invested it in some no-load stocks and eventually sold each at a profit. And NOOOOO I wasn't dreamin'!
As for your question........I have no doubt in my mind that several people on this website could take the bits and pieces of info you have revealed and figure out your system and come up with 1,500 lines to play.(Or various number of lines x multiple duplicate tickets) I also have no doubt that at a cost of $1,500 several members could come up with some pretty outragous systems to play on some of the other lottery games. Why aren't I or anyone else doing it? I don't play pick3/4 and I'm not going to waste my time trying to figure out what your system is.
And if I had $1,500 to blow on one game it wouldn't be pick 3/4!
I wish you the best with your system.....no one ever said it wouldn't work!
As for everyone being seasoned.....sorry not me!
Hey, that's a darn good hit and I wish I could do that! Seriously!! As for my system, I welcome anyone to disect and duplicate it. A great deal of time and money went into this so I hope they're ready. Simply throwing a bunch of numbers together in this game will get you BROKE real quick as I learned early! There's a secret to the $1,500 buy in, in terms of being able to play that much money and win consistently. It's imperative that one fully understands the WHY of this game and not the HOW.
I'm not your run of the mill player and there's a key to this game. IT'S NOT BY PLAYING ALL THE NUMBERS AS YOU AND OTHERS MAY THINK. Try it and you'll go broke. I use some serious software and that's all I'll say. Good luck on another win sweetie!!!!
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OfflineQuote: Originally posted by Matchmaker on May 27, 2009
You first sentence has made more sense to me than just about everything else I read so far here. I decided to give the lottery forum a try because we all have one thing in common: we like to play the lottery games. The difference in me and most people,though, is that I'm not "afraid" of my money. Gambling and Fear are enemies. Does that make sense? It should. See, this is just a fun game for people and that's good entertainment. What this will be for me is a business which is why I spent time and money developing a consistent program to win.
I've been through all the winning today and losing for the next week or so and it was okay then. But, I got tired of it because all I did was get back some of the money I had lost when I finally did win again. There was absolutely no profit involved. Each time you lose, you go deeper into the hole. I'm taking some advice and jumping off my Pick 3 system to generate the funds for Pick 4. $75 profit on the low end is pretty good in my book...and it only goes up from there.
Patience has been one of my problems...
Your last sentence is also my problem...
'tho in the end, that is the only way, and i mean the only way that i know of to make a profit with each hit.
My last hit is already from the beginning of May, i only play pick3.
And sometimes i think "darn, where is the next hit? Why does it take so long?"And some way or the other i play "random" numbers for a few days (not really random, but that is my thing i will not talk about in the open here), and i blow some serious $$$, they go down the drain.
As for an extreme example of patience: i played a set of numbers in GA eve, for over 3 months!!! (it was even more if i recall correct)
But when the hit came it was a big hit, a very big hit. (very big to my standards ofcourse, someone with a million $$$ in the bank would have a good laugh about it...)
Someone else on this forum also hit that 684 very nicely.Anyway, about your "system".
Not one person will "see through your system" if you post the numbers in a thread.
Since you have spent so much thought about it, i don't understand this at all.
If you come up with your numbers, and put 100 or so "dummy" numbers in between them, the system is hidden.Secondly, since you have a system for pick4, this by definition means you can use the same system for pick3.
Your investment in pick3 would only be $150 per day ( i assume you play it online, at a cost of $0.25 per number straight), and a profit with one straight hit, $225, is a clean $75.
You do this for a month, with lets say 1 miss every 7 days? Is that fair? (looking at your posts it will even be less)This makes an investment of 30 X $150 = $4500
Loss: 4 X $150, or worst case 5 X $150 = $750
Winnings: 25 X $225 =$5625
This means a net profit of $1125 for one month.
(more if you have less losses ofcourse)And the initial investment will be no more than, again worst case scenario (5 losses): $900
I truly don't see the problem here in building up a bankroll with which you will be playing pick4 within 3 months and get 10 times as much each month, coming at $1125 X 10 = $11250 per month
Third, and this where i talk from experience, your system will fail you one day! It will abandone you, and that is when your patience will be tested to its full extend.
And it is not really the system that fails, but it is when it grows "cold" and becomes invisible for a time that is too long, just too long.The thing is, it is not really the system that grows cold, it is the lottery itself that is pulling your leg.
They have their testdraws, which they do not post, and the numbers that your system have spit out will hit in those testdraws.
That is where the over due statistics come into the picture.I have over 300 000 draws in my database, i have ran thousands and thousands of tests, you can't think of it or i have tested it.
And the "breakpoint" in Due vs Overdue is no where near the currently available statistics, and the only reason is the testdraws the lotteries have.Win D has ones posted a number that according to him represents that breakpoint, and he was not so very far off.
Might be this post seems sceptical, but i am always interested in making money, in contrary to some on this forum that have comments about every "system" or proposal being posted, and want to burry it within 6 seconds.
Don't get me wrong, most of what is posted in such ways run under the category "scam", which means these persons are correct in the end.
The problem is they burry it within 6 seconds, it has become a natural reflex for them to do so. That kind of might "bother" others...
One thing i do, when i read about posted systems, i write the code, backtest it against my entire database, make a distinction between RNG and real-ball draws, and i look at what my code tells me where the money went, either in the players pocket, either in the lotteries' pockets.
Hard facts, that is what it is all about,
anyone can talk the talk, but can they walk the walk...lasas3
An onion a day keeps everyone away!!!
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All this palaver and not one solitary prediction.
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Quote: Originally posted by paurths on Jun 1, 2009
Your last sentence is also my problem...
'tho in the end, that is the only way, and i mean the only way that i know of to make a profit with each hit.
My last hit is already from the beginning of May, i only play pick3.
And sometimes i think "darn, where is the next hit? Why does it take so long?"And some way or the other i play "random" numbers for a few days (not really random, but that is my thing i will not talk about in the open here), and i blow some serious $$$, they go down the drain.
As for an extreme example of patience: i played a set of numbers in GA eve, for over 3 months!!! (it was even more if i recall correct)
But when the hit came it was a big hit, a very big hit. (very big to my standards ofcourse, someone with a million $$$ in the bank would have a good laugh about it...)
Someone else on this forum also hit that 684 very nicely.Anyway, about your "system".
Not one person will "see through your system" if you post the numbers in a thread.
Since you have spent so much thought about it, i don't understand this at all.
If you come up with your numbers, and put 100 or so "dummy" numbers in between them, the system is hidden.Secondly, since you have a system for pick4, this by definition means you can use the same system for pick3.
Your investment in pick3 would only be $150 per day ( i assume you play it online, at a cost of $0.25 per number straight), and a profit with one straight hit, $225, is a clean $75.
You do this for a month, with lets say 1 miss every 7 days? Is that fair? (looking at your posts it will even be less)This makes an investment of 30 X $150 = $4500
Loss: 4 X $150, or worst case 5 X $150 = $750
Winnings: 25 X $225 =$5625
This means a net profit of $1125 for one month.
(more if you have less losses ofcourse)And the initial investment will be no more than, again worst case scenario (5 losses): $900
I truly don't see the problem here in building up a bankroll with which you will be playing pick4 within 3 months and get 10 times as much each month, coming at $1125 X 10 = $11250 per month
Third, and this where i talk from experience, your system will fail you one day! It will abandone you, and that is when your patience will be tested to its full extend.
And it is not really the system that fails, but it is when it grows "cold" and becomes invisible for a time that is too long, just too long.The thing is, it is not really the system that grows cold, it is the lottery itself that is pulling your leg.
They have their testdraws, which they do not post, and the numbers that your system have spit out will hit in those testdraws.
That is where the over due statistics come into the picture.I have over 300 000 draws in my database, i have ran thousands and thousands of tests, you can't think of it or i have tested it.
And the "breakpoint" in Due vs Overdue is no where near the currently available statistics, and the only reason is the testdraws the lotteries have.Win D has ones posted a number that according to him represents that breakpoint, and he was not so very far off.
Might be this post seems sceptical, but i am always interested in making money, in contrary to some on this forum that have comments about every "system" or proposal being posted, and want to burry it within 6 seconds.
Don't get me wrong, most of what is posted in such ways run under the category "scam", which means these persons are correct in the end.
The problem is they burry it within 6 seconds, it has become a natural reflex for them to do so. That kind of might "bother" others...
One thing i do, when i read about posted systems, i write the code, backtest it against my entire database, make a distinction between RNG and real-ball draws, and i look at what my code tells me where the money went, either in the players pocket, either in the lotteries' pockets.
Hard facts, that is what it is all about,
anyone can talk the talk, but can they walk the walk...Hi Paurths. It's very good to hear from you and thanks for your reply. This is the most educated and honest post I've received since I started this thread. We think an awful lot alike and I'm certain we both agree on one thing...numbers don't lie. Test draws are very important as you said and some states have as many as (5) pre-draws which means that the winning numbers can be initially drawn then not show up again for a very long time.
I compile data from all the states daily for my own personal research and have seen some crazy things happen. Let's take Virginia for example. I've monitored a couple of numbers which weren't drawn for nearly a FULL MONTH! Now, one would call these COLD numbers and just not play them. Very dangerous because just when you've decided to make a very handsome wager based on that number's absence, it shows up smiling at you. This has happened to me many, many times. Taking numbers for granted can work some times but, it's the times when you really want that big win that it bites you real hard!!
I know I'm knocking on lots of people's door now! This happens to every lottery player...bar none. Paurths, any system can fail and mine HAS FAILED ME BEFORE. Never said it couldn't, okay. This is a RANDOM NUMBERS GAME we're playing. However, I've fined tuned its' efficiency beyond most everything I've seen and tried thus far which isn't being "boastful." I'm just saying what I know.
I designed this thing for the long haul, not for a big hit today then spend time losing or "giving it all back." Consistent wins over time allows you to absorb a bump every now and then with no problem because you've made all profit at this point. See, I know that I'll take a hit Paurths and I'm ready because I'll already be about 8-10 wins ahead! This doesn't scare me one bit because after I take that hit, I'm going right back to that next drawing, double my wager, and get that money plus some right back!
Please don't confuse my being confident with being <snip>y because I'm not in any sense of the word. I learned very early that if you're afraid to lose then you're also afraid to win. Make sense? Gambling and Fear are Enemies. If both are present, Opportunity and Profit won't be. I believe in giving credit where it's due and the profit figures you posted above are very reasonable although my buy in is still higher. In all honesty, the only thing that scares me about this is its' potential. I hope to talk with you again at some point, Paurths. Great minds think alike!
"THE MAN THAT KNOWS HOW WILL ALWAYS KNOW HOW. THE MAN THAT KNOWS WHY WILL ALWAYS KNOW BETTER".
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Ok folks I believe, I am convinced. Show me the money! Where's the beef?
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Quote: Originally posted by Matchmaker on Jun 1, 2009
Hi Paurths. It's very good to hear from you and thanks for your reply. This is the most educated and honest post I've received since I started this thread. We think an awful lot alike and I'm certain we both agree on one thing...numbers don't lie. Test draws are very important as you said and some states have as many as (5) pre-draws which means that the winning numbers can be initially drawn then not show up again for a very long time.
I compile data from all the states daily for my own personal research and have seen some crazy things happen. Let's take Virginia for example. I've monitored a couple of numbers which weren't drawn for nearly a FULL MONTH! Now, one would call these COLD numbers and just not play them. Very dangerous because just when you've decided to make a very handsome wager based on that number's absence, it shows up smiling at you. This has happened to me many, many times. Taking numbers for granted can work some times but, it's the times when you really want that big win that it bites you real hard!!
I know I'm knocking on lots of people's door now! This happens to every lottery player...bar none. Paurths, any system can fail and mine HAS FAILED ME BEFORE. Never said it couldn't, okay. This is a RANDOM NUMBERS GAME we're playing. However, I've fined tuned its' efficiency beyond most everything I've seen and tried thus far which isn't being "boastful." I'm just saying what I know.
I designed this thing for the long haul, not for a big hit today then spend time losing or "giving it all back." Consistent wins over time allows you to absorb a bump every now and then with no problem because you've made all profit at this point. See, I know that I'll take a hit Paurths and I'm ready because I'll already be about 8-10 wins ahead! This doesn't scare me one bit because after I take that hit, I'm going right back to that next drawing, double my wager, and get that money plus some right back!
Please don't confuse my being confident with being <snip>y because I'm not in any sense of the word. I learned very early that if you're afraid to lose then you're also afraid to win. Make sense? Gambling and Fear are Enemies. If both are present, Opportunity and Profit won't be. I believe in giving credit where it's due and the profit figures you posted above are very reasonable although my buy in is still higher. In all honesty, the only thing that scares me about this is its' potential. I hope to talk with you again at some point, Paurths. Great minds think alike!
"THE MAN THAT KNOWS HOW WILL ALWAYS KNOW HOW. THE MAN THAT KNOWS WHY WILL ALWAYS KNOW BETTER".
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Wow, can you feel the benevolence...?
Maybe this post will be locked soon???
Paurths....you have been singled out and are being charmed. Don't fall for it.
This is blatant fishing and should be discontinued.
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Quote: Originally posted by dr65 on Jun 1, 2009
Wow, can you feel the benevolence...?
Maybe this post will be locked soon???
Paurths....you have been singled out and are being charmed. Don't fall for it.
This is blatant fishing and should be discontinued.
I don't fear for Paurths. Paurths is too smart. Paurths has created the only lottery software worth having coupled with LotPost.
I am surprized though that they are giving this individual so much attention when he has put up not a single thing ....but a a lot of chitchat.
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Quote: Originally posted by Matchmaker on May 30, 2009
I have taken your advice among many others here by shutting up and putting up because action does speak louder than words.
Sorry I missed this post, How exactly did you put up? I looked and noticed you have not made even one prediction.
Some of us know whom you are targetting. But she won't fall for it.
This is what Lottery Post says:
No report available: Matchmaker has not posted any predictions.
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