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what about people with a system that only share half of the system

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pepper1's avatar - batman38
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Posted: May 20, 2010, 4:03 pm - IP Logged

Whatever Tiggs. It time for your nap.

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    Posted: May 20, 2010, 6:56 pm - IP Logged

    I'm with joker17 and tiggs on this.

    The only people that truly understand the math involved are the people running the games.  If it can be beat it's not going to be offered to be beat. DUH, DUH, anf DUH. They also know that there is far more than math involved, that any business involving wagering also involves egos.

    As I've said before, one of my casino bosses was vety fond of saying he enjoyed  beating  some "clown from Providence with a degree in probabilites than anyone else". (Providence meaning Ivy League snob).

    As joker has stated, for all those here claiming Einstein level math ability no one is makeing a living out of beating the games.

    People who think they ar impressing anyone by suggesting hitting a dart board with a shotgun really needd to reconsider what they're saying.

    That's why I have Milo Minderbinder's Catch 22 quote in my sig.

    Every system out there needs to start with "Once upoin a time....."

    Those who run the lotteries love it when players look for consistency in something that's designed not to have any.

    Lep

    There is one and only one 'proven' system, and that is to book the action. No matter the game, let the players pick their own losers.

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      Posted: May 20, 2010, 7:18 pm - IP Logged

      The balls Tiggs wake up. Did you see the drawing tuesday night a ball the yellow came down with a 2 which was

      wrong went back up in the tube and than the right number came down only the wrong ball was yellow.

      tiggs looked at this post again and decided you pepper are related to Gracie Allen..

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        Posted: May 20, 2010, 7:19 pm - IP Logged

        I'm with joker17 and tiggs on this.

        The only people that truly understand the math involved are the people running the games.  If it can be beat it's not going to be offered to be beat. DUH, DUH, anf DUH. They also know that there is far more than math involved, that any business involving wagering also involves egos.

        As I've said before, one of my casino bosses was vety fond of saying he enjoyed  beating  some "clown from Providence with a degree in probabilites than anyone else". (Providence meaning Ivy League snob).

        As joker has stated, for all those here claiming Einstein level math ability no one is makeing a living out of beating the games.

        People who think they ar impressing anyone by suggesting hitting a dart board with a shotgun really needd to reconsider what they're saying.

        That's why I have Milo Minderbinder's Catch 22 quote in my sig.

        Every system out there needs to start with "Once upoin a time....."

        Every system out there needs to start with "Once up on a time....."

        If lottery systems belong in the same class as fairy tales and there's no proof that anyone every won a lottery jackpot using a system, why are members whining about other members not explaining completely how their systems work?  If they're no better than a fairy tales then no amount of explaining is going to change that.

         * you don't need to buy more tickets, just buy a winning ticket * 
           
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          Posted: May 20, 2010, 7:29 pm - IP Logged

          Sometimes a system will hit because it's luck..Like tiggs has said a million times on this message board there is no way you can handicap a ping pong ball..Most systems are just putting in numbers that have not come in..

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            Posted: May 20, 2010, 7:29 pm - IP Logged

            Sometimes a system will hit because it's luck..Like tiggs has said a million times on this message board there is no way you can handicap a ping pong ball..Most systems are just putting in numbers that have not come in..

            It's called tracking numbers..

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              Posted: May 20, 2010, 7:44 pm - IP Logged

              It's called tracking numbers..

              Ya and Tracking Numbers is just another theory, The 3 is AWOL from the Michigan Evening Daily 3 for 17 Days. I couldn't tell how much cash i've lost in the last week on that number.

              I still say it's the Air Blowing and the balls getting inhaled up the tube that is the common demoniator.

              CutlassBob

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                Posted: May 20, 2010, 7:47 pm - IP Logged

                I'm with joker17 and tiggs on this.

                The only people that truly understand the math involved are the people running the games.  If it can be beat it's not going to be offered to be beat. DUH, DUH, anf DUH. They also know that there is far more than math involved, that any business involving wagering also involves egos.

                As I've said before, one of my casino bosses was vety fond of saying he enjoyed  beating  some "clown from Providence with a degree in probabilites than anyone else". (Providence meaning Ivy League snob).

                As joker has stated, for all those here claiming Einstein level math ability no one is makeing a living out of beating the games.

                People who think they ar impressing anyone by suggesting hitting a dart board with a shotgun really needd to reconsider what they're saying.

                That's why I have Milo Minderbinder's Catch 22 quote in my sig.

                Every system out there needs to start with "Once upoin a time....."

                Okay, let's put a pen to this. You say that hitting a dart board with a shotgun isn't impressive. This is simply a matter of opinion until you fully understand the true math...which I've explained before to you, 'Toss. We're gonna take (300) numbers which, being played @ 1.00 per number, is $300. (300) divided by(4) is 75 which translates into $75 @ .25 per number...1/4 of (300).

                The straight hit brings $225, and, this minus $75 equals $150 in "true profit". Now, at this point, the player has (3) opportunities to get that same hit again because 75 x 3 = 225. Next play is such as this: Balance ($225) - Cost ($75) = Remaining Balance ($150). This balance plus another $225 equals a new balance of $375...and a new total of (5) opportunities to land the same hit again (75 x 5 = 375).

                As you can see, the player has the option of continuing @ .25 per number and generating $150 in profit, or, jumping right into $1.00 per number because in only (2) hits, they have enough money to cover the bet ($375) which is also the same amount in numbers.

                Now, are you saying that it's not worth spending $300 at the right time on the right draws to make this kind of profit, 'Toss? Mind you, this is $600 in profit @ $1.00 per number. The player's initial investment was recovered in just the very first hit in case you didn't notice that. Everything after that is "pure true profit" and cannot be denied. Even at a loss, the player only loses 1/4 of what they've won.

                You know, everyone keeps harping about this dartboard and shotgun thing. How long do they have to wait in order to hit it with a water gun from 50 feet away...and again before they can hit again. I'm talkin' straights and not the boxed or paired deal. Anyone can do that with their eyes closed. This is where a true system, patience, and opportunity comes into play.

                This is a tried and true approach...you should know this by now, 'Toss, as it's been demonstrated. Profit is profit as long as it's above and beyond the initial cost, okay. 99% of players here have profit all wrong and confused. Everything has it's cost and it's up to the player to accept what is a reasonable profit to them in Pick 3.

                Don't you let anyone sell you a wolf cookie saying that they wouldn't do it if they knew they could. You'll probably be receiving a PM from someone, if you haven't already, about this.LOL In the end, I know exactly how to turn a profit in this thing.

                L.L.

                 

                 

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                  Posted: May 20, 2010, 8:53 pm - IP Logged

                  More Pen Marks.

                  Each one of the 1000 numbers in 3-digit lottery games have equal chance of being drawn at any given time, therefore, the chance of winning with one selected number in exact order (straight) is 1 in 1000. In mathamatical terms, we say the probability of winning is 0.001 or 0.1%. On the other hand, when playing boxes and combos (any order) of a 3-digit game, the order in which the number is drawn doesn't matter, therefore instead of 1000 possibilities we have only 220. In this later case, the numbers 123,132, 213, 231, 312, 321, for example, are represented by only one number 123. For this reason, the chance of winning with a box or a combo play is obviously higher than the chance of winning with a straight play.

                  Since there are 220 possible outcomes, one may be tempted to conclude that the chance winning in a box is 1 in 220. This is not exactly true since not all boxes have equal chances of winning; numbers with non-repeating digits have a better chance of winning than numbers with one digit repeated. For example, the number 123 has a better chance of winning than the number 122, since 123 covers six possible permutations shown above, while 122 covers only three (122, 212, 221).

                  Consequently, we shall classify all the 3-digit numbers into three groups, namely, non-repeating numbers, one-repeating (doubles) numbers, and triples. Very often, non-repeating and one-repeating boxes are referred to as 6-way and 3-way boxes (or combos), respectively.

                  Of the 1000 3-digit numbers 720 are non-repeating, 270 one-repeating, and 10 triples. Since a non-repeating number has 5 more siblings, we can divide 720 by 6 to obtain 120 distinct non-reapeating numbers. Similarly, there are 270/3=90 distinct one-repeating numbers.

                  Thanks to BS for this Info.

                  CutlassBob

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                    Posted: May 20, 2010, 9:07 pm - IP Logged

                    More Pen Marks.

                    Each one of the 1000 numbers in 3-digit lottery games have equal chance of being drawn at any given time, therefore, the chance of winning with one selected number in exact order (straight) is 1 in 1000. In mathamatical terms, we say the probability of winning is 0.001 or 0.1%. On the other hand, when playing boxes and combos (any order) of a 3-digit game, the order in which the number is drawn doesn't matter, therefore instead of 1000 possibilities we have only 220. In this later case, the numbers 123,132, 213, 231, 312, 321, for example, are represented by only one number 123. For this reason, the chance of winning with a box or a combo play is obviously higher than the chance of winning with a straight play.

                    Since there are 220 possible outcomes, one may be tempted to conclude that the chance winning in a box is 1 in 220. This is not exactly true since not all boxes have equal chances of winning; numbers with non-repeating digits have a better chance of winning than numbers with one digit repeated. For example, the number 123 has a better chance of winning than the number 122, since 123 covers six possible permutations shown above, while 122 covers only three (122, 212, 221).

                    Consequently, we shall classify all the 3-digit numbers into three groups, namely, non-repeating numbers, one-repeating (doubles) numbers, and triples. Very often, non-repeating and one-repeating boxes are referred to as 6-way and 3-way boxes (or combos), respectively.

                    Of the 1000 3-digit numbers 720 are non-repeating, 270 one-repeating, and 10 triples. Since a non-repeating number has 5 more siblings, we can divide 720 by 6 to obtain 120 distinct non-reapeating numbers. Similarly, there are 270/3=90 distinct one-repeating numbers.

                    Thanks to BS for this Info.

                    CutlassBob

                    WOW!!!...

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                      Posted: May 20, 2010, 9:34 pm - IP Logged

                      WOW!!!...

                      LMAO...So the  probability of hitting boxed is much better than Hitting straight and say i boxed it for $1.00, that's what in cash flow?  In Michigan $83.00 but i spent $75.00 to do it. Yippie Tie Ya.

                      Crash Bang Sock Biff Bam Zap Crunch Boff Zowie Bang *BURP* Cheers

                      CutlassBob

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                        I'd like to see Pepper and tiggs Mud Rassle.

                        Ten rounds with no naps.


                                                                     
                                             
                                                                 

                         

                         

                         

                         

                                                                                                                           

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                          Posted: May 20, 2010, 9:55 pm - IP Logged

                          I'd like to see Pepper and tiggs Mud Rassle.

                          Ten rounds with no naps.

                          I Agree!

                          CutlassBob

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                            LMAO...So the  probability of hitting boxed is much better than Hitting straight and say i boxed it for $1.00, that's what in cash flow?  In Michigan $83.00 but i spent $75.00 to do it. Yippie Tie Ya.

                            Crash Bang Sock Biff Bam Zap Crunch Boff Zowie Bang *BURP* Cheers

                            CutlassBob

                            P.S. I got to remind myself......No posting while drinking.

                            No problem Bob ridge drinks and post all the time..We never knew ridge was a drunk till he posted sober once..

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                              Posted: May 20, 2010, 10:19 pm - IP Logged

                              No problem Bob ridge drinks and post all the time..We never knew ridge was a drunk till he posted sober once..

                              LoL.....Just got done watching Hockey and enjoyed a cpl Leinenkugels Summer Shandy Brews.

                              Now i'm waiting for the Mud wrestling match.

                              CutlassBob

                               

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