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I won $220 today, after yesterdays wins of $68. Of today's wins, $70 was profit (actually $65 after you subtract the $5 I wasted on Cash 3). So I am having a really good month so far, and a great start to the week. I won $20 on Giant Jumbo Bucks  008 at my regular store. The rest of my winnings are from another store that I don't play at very often, but that will change. That is $15 profit. ($10 if you subtract the Cash 3 losses). I have made a net profit of over $200 this month so far.

Holiday gifts went from 029 to 024 without winning, so I am really concerned at this point, because it does not usually go that far without a winner. Number 23 was a ticket, after losing 6 in a row. Now I am really concerned, but I do not give up. I trade it in for another, 022 and it loses. I buy another one, 021 and IT wins another ticket! So then I buy number 020, and it loses! Undaunted, I buy 019 and the sleigh hits (win all) and they are all $5 winners, so I won $75. I still made $20 off the deal, but I wish someone else had bought the first 10. So there you have it. If you get two tickets back to back after a long losing spree, then a big winner may very well be nearby.

During this whole process, I bought 3 of the new $5 Kings & Queens, and they all lost 057-055. Being near the beginning of the roll, and due to the fact that no one had won on the two before mine, I decided to buy another, knowing the overall odds were 1 in 4.00. Number 054 hit for $40, so I made $20 off that deal.

Extreme Green is a $10 ticket. 000, the last in the roll won $20. Someone else bought 029 off the next roll and I assume it lost, but I really have no idea. I bought ticket 028, and it lost, so I bought number 027, and it won $20, so I won $10 off of those. I did notice that all of the big winners posted on the wall were single digits. It seems like there were a few around number 3.

Jingle Jumbo Bucks 029 won $15. Out of another book, number 018 lost, and then 017 won a free ticket. Then someone bought 020 out of another book, so I bought 019 and won $20. I only made $5 off of those.

I bought a 20X the Money, ticket 002 and it won $5, so it just paid for itself. I still haven't decided whether or not to go buy 001 and 000. There is no guarantee that the last ticket in a roll is a winner, but many times they are. I think that I just won, but it was really just the cost of a ticket. It is a toss up. Maybe it is a big winner, but my guess is that they both lose. Anyone have that magic crystal ball?

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    I won $220 today, after yesterdays wins of $68. Of today's wins, $70 was profit (actually $65 after you subtract the $5 I wasted on Cash 3). So I am having a really good month so far, and a great start to the week. I won $20 on Giant Jumbo Bucks  008 at my regular store. The rest of my winnings are from another store that I don't play at very often, but that will change. That is $15 profit. ($10 if you subtract the Cash 3 losses). I have made a net profit of over $200 this month so far.

    Holiday gifts went from 029 to 024 without winning, so I am really concerned at this point, because it does not usually go that far without a winner. Number 23 was a ticket, after losing 6 in a row. Now I am really concerned, but I do not give up. I trade it in for another, 022 and it loses. I buy another one, 021 and IT wins another ticket! So then I buy number 020, and it loses! Undaunted, I buy 019 and the sleigh hits (win all) and they are all $5 winners, so I won $75. I still made $20 off the deal, but I wish someone else had bought the first 10. So there you have it. If you get two tickets back to back after a long losing spree, then a big winner may very well be nearby.

    During this whole process, I bought 3 of the new $5 Kings & Queens, and they all lost 057-055. Being near the beginning of the roll, and due to the fact that no one had won on the two before mine, I decided to buy another, knowing the overall odds were 1 in 4.00. Number 054 hit for $40, so I made $20 off that deal.

    Extreme Green is a $10 ticket. 000, the last in the roll won $20. Someone else bought 029 off the next roll and I assume it lost, but I really have no idea. I bought ticket 028, and it lost, so I bought number 027, and it won $20, so I won $10 off of those. I did notice that all of the big winners posted on the wall were single digits. It seems like there were a few around number 3.

    Jingle Jumbo Bucks 029 won $15. Out of another book, number 018 lost, and then 017 won a free ticket. Then someone bought 020 out of another book, so I bought 019 and won $20. I only made $5 off of those.

    I bought a 20X the Money, ticket 002 and it won $5, so it just paid for itself. I still haven't decided whether or not to go buy 001 and 000. There is no guarantee that the last ticket in a roll is a winner, but many times they are. I think that I just won, but it was really just the cost of a ticket. It is a toss up. Maybe it is a big winner, but my guess is that they both lose. Anyone have that magic crystal ball?

    I forgot to include the free tickets as winners, so I made a $30 profit on Holiday Gifts, and a daily profit of $80. Sometimes my math is off. This is why I like to record tickets before I turn them in.

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      I won $220 today, after yesterdays wins of $68. Of today's wins, $70 was profit (actually $65 after you subtract the $5 I wasted on Cash 3). So I am having a really good month so far, and a great start to the week. I won $20 on Giant Jumbo Bucks  008 at my regular store. The rest of my winnings are from another store that I don't play at very often, but that will change. That is $15 profit. ($10 if you subtract the Cash 3 losses). I have made a net profit of over $200 this month so far.

      Holiday gifts went from 029 to 024 without winning, so I am really concerned at this point, because it does not usually go that far without a winner. Number 23 was a ticket, after losing 6 in a row. Now I am really concerned, but I do not give up. I trade it in for another, 022 and it loses. I buy another one, 021 and IT wins another ticket! So then I buy number 020, and it loses! Undaunted, I buy 019 and the sleigh hits (win all) and they are all $5 winners, so I won $75. I still made $20 off the deal, but I wish someone else had bought the first 10. So there you have it. If you get two tickets back to back after a long losing spree, then a big winner may very well be nearby.

      During this whole process, I bought 3 of the new $5 Kings & Queens, and they all lost 057-055. Being near the beginning of the roll, and due to the fact that no one had won on the two before mine, I decided to buy another, knowing the overall odds were 1 in 4.00. Number 054 hit for $40, so I made $20 off that deal.

      Extreme Green is a $10 ticket. 000, the last in the roll won $20. Someone else bought 029 off the next roll and I assume it lost, but I really have no idea. I bought ticket 028, and it lost, so I bought number 027, and it won $20, so I won $10 off of those. I did notice that all of the big winners posted on the wall were single digits. It seems like there were a few around number 3.

      Jingle Jumbo Bucks 029 won $15. Out of another book, number 018 lost, and then 017 won a free ticket. Then someone bought 020 out of another book, so I bought 019 and won $20. I only made $5 off of those.

      I bought a 20X the Money, ticket 002 and it won $5, so it just paid for itself. I still haven't decided whether or not to go buy 001 and 000. There is no guarantee that the last ticket in a roll is a winner, but many times they are. I think that I just won, but it was really just the cost of a ticket. It is a toss up. Maybe it is a big winner, but my guess is that they both lose. Anyone have that magic crystal ball?

      Hi, CarHauler - wow, that's a lot of money you are spending, but if you keep making profit, it's not a bad deal. I wouldn't attempt doing that much here in PA very often. It seems you really have to be in the right place at the right time to win much where I am. Bought 3 Money Money Moneys today - #55-57 - and not one won. All three were in the last five tickets, and I can tell you #58 and #59 also likely lost. Terrible. Good thing I saved most of my money from yesterday.

      And yes, I'm hoping for a White Christmas! Based on one weather model, there is a chance in PA.

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        Hi, CarHauler - wow, that's a lot of money you are spending, but if you keep making profit, it's not a bad deal. I wouldn't attempt doing that much here in PA very often. It seems you really have to be in the right place at the right time to win much where I am. Bought 3 Money Money Moneys today - #55-57 - and not one won. All three were in the last five tickets, and I can tell you #58 and #59 also likely lost. Terrible. Good thing I saved most of my money from yesterday.

        And yes, I'm hoping for a White Christmas! Based on one weather model, there is a chance in PA.

        It turned out to be $80 in profit from scratch offs. I have $268 worth of tickets to turn in. I knew the Holiday Gifts well enough to know that something was not right to get 6 losers in a row, then get 2 free tickets back to back. It is a break even game if you buy all of the tickets, I feel confident that you would end up with pretty close to what you started with. It almost never goes more than three tickets without a winner, and at first, most of the winners were either $15 or $20, with no free tickets.

        I also knew that it was a gem in the rough, because it was a lower ticket number. The higher ticket numbers do not seem to put out as much, so when I lost on it, I knew there was some money in there. The secret to making money at this game is just like any other, the less you spend to get a winner, the more you make. Asking the clerk about tickets helps out a lot. Of the $268, only $18 of the winnings came out of a machine.

        The Kings & Queen game is brand new, and it has odds just like Holiday Gifts, which I have done very well at. They like to hook people on new games, so they put out bigger prizes when a game first comes out. That is why I spend a lot more on new tickets. I have found that new games will put out winners more consistently. Having a higher top prize I think usually means that the other tickets will put out more money, but that they will not win as often. It seems like this game will play like I thought.

        I must tell you that it does get tiring trying to keep up with multiple ticket packs at different stores, but I am convinced that is the way to go. That is the thing that I hate about machines, you never know what you are going to win. You never know for certain with the cashiers, but they will usually be honest with you. Good for me, and bad for others, I do not cash mine in right away, unlike most folks. I take them home and record the data that I want, and in that time period, it allows other customers to buy the bad tickets (they could buy the winners though).

        Yes it is risky, but it seems to be working right now. Now I just need to see if I can't find some more $100+ winners. I would love to win $500 or more, and I have a feeling like I will, and I will be working toward that end. I have some certain ticket numbers in my head that are making me think of big money. These $20 Jingle Jumbo Bucks wins are better than losing, but I need to get some more Jingle Bells.

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          CarHauler - In PA, they change around the numbers so much though that it's hard to know if there's a winner in the range. I also don't scratch off at the store, so if I go back, the ticket I want might be gone. At the Giant I usually go to, the numbers go up. I think I like the numbers when they go down more. Nothing is really winnng much when I get the end of the roll. But #000 won $100. I got the $100 winner at the Giant where the tickets do down from #149 on the $2 games, instead of up from #000.

          Should I concentrate on one game and a certain roll? Or should I try different rolls and games?

          Continued good lock - awesome job!

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            CarHauler - In PA, they change around the numbers so much though that it's hard to know if there's a winner in the range. I also don't scratch off at the store, so if I go back, the ticket I want might be gone. At the Giant I usually go to, the numbers go up. I think I like the numbers when they go down more. Nothing is really winnng much when I get the end of the roll. But #000 won $100. I got the $100 winner at the Giant where the tickets do down from #149 on the $2 games, instead of up from #000.

            Should I concentrate on one game and a certain roll? Or should I try different rolls and games?

            Continued good lock - awesome job!

            Well, I got $100 on a $1 ticket, so it does happen, but not that often. I would do what seems to work the best. I have found the majority of winners on odd numbers, for example, but not always. Just like with winning two in a row, it may happen from time to time, but not very often, and the second winner is not usually that big even if it happens. If you keep up with a certain roll, you might not always be able to pinpoint where the next winner will fall, but you might do better than blind luck. You will know not to buy a ticket if you just won on that number the last time you were in the store.

            If you watch the roll, if nothing else you can see if any tickets have been sold off that book since your last visit. For example, after the $100 Jingle Bell win, I just left that roll alone. If you assume that the lottery is in business to make money, and they are, and you have a $100 winner, then you would have to assume that there has to be 10 losing tickets just for them to break even. I was surprised to do so well at this place because it had all of the big winners on the wall, but I did really good there.

            If you can determine how a ticket plays an average, you will have better success. I limit myself to no more than around five games, and I only play those, and I have figured out a dollar amount that I am either willing to lose. Then I have to decide do I keep on playing, or do I just count my losses. If my $75 winner had just been a $20 winner, I would have suffered a terrible loss, but I knew that something was off, so I kept playing. There was one game on the wall that seemed to win $500 a lot, and I did notice most of the big winners were small numbers, so that is where I will be looking.

            I have had the very best luck overall with $5 tickets. Not only has my biggest win been on a $5 ticket, but I win more per dollar consistently than any other amount, but if I learn the $10 games as well, I will probably be much more likely to hit $500 than on a $5 game. So if I were to answer your question in just one sentence, then I would say no, it is a bad idea to just throw money blindly at random tickets. Learn two or three games very well, and then expand. That is what I am doing. Expanding to new stores, but slowly is the key. And yes random purchases just might get you that big win too, but I only do that a little. I can walk into 2 different stores, and know which ticket is doing what.

            People see me pull out my papers in the store and ask about them. A few commented that this makes a lot of sense. It may or it may not, but I have been on an incredible winning spree this whole month, but I have had ups and downs. I have lost $40 in a day, but my overall profit is what I go by. I am well ahead for the month, and just $21 short of breaking even for the year on scratch offs, and by that I mean that when I win $21 dollars in profit, assuming no big losses, that I will have offset every loss I have since I have been playing, which is roughly 3 months. I also have a list of just the ticket numbers for Holiday Gifts. I will post it in the next post, and you tell me what you think.

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              NUM

              AMT

              000

              $0

              001

              $0

              002

              $0

              006

              $0

              007

              $5

              007

              $5

              008

              $0

              008

              $0

              010

              $0

              015

              $0

              016

              $0

              017

              $0

              019

              $75

              020

              $0

              020

              $0

              021

              $5

              021

              $10

              022

              $0

              023

              $0

              023

              $5

              023

              $5

              024

              $0

              024

              $15

              025

              $0

              025

              $0

              025

              $0

              025

              $0

              025

              $0

              025

              $5

              025

              $15

              026

              $0

              026

              $0

              026

              $0

              026

              $0

              026

              $150

              027

              $0

              027

              $0

              027

              $10

              027

              $10

              027

              $15

              028

              $0

              028

              $0

              028

              $0

              029

              $0

              029

              $0

              029

              $5

              029

              $20

              030

              $10

              031

              $10

              033

              $0

              034

              $0

              034

              $10

              034

              $20

              035

              $0

              035

              $20

              036

              $0

              037

              $0

              037

              $5

              038

              $0

              039

              $0

              039

              $5

              043

              $0

              043

              $5

              045

              $0

              046

              $0

              046

              $0

              046

              $5

              046

              $20

              047

              $0

              047

              $0

              049

              $0

              050

              $0

              050

              $0

              050

              $5

              050

              $10

              051

              $0

              051

              $0

              051

              $0

              052

              $0

              052

              $20

              052

              $40

              053

              $0

              053

              $0

              053

              $0

              054

              $0

              054

              $0

              055

              $0

              056

              $5

              056

              $20

              057

              $15

              058

              $0

              058

              $10

              059

              $0

              059

              $0

              059

              $25

               

              $615

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                Notice anything odd? Some numbers do seem to win more often than others. Also note number 26. It lost 4 times, but won $150 one time. If you look at number 52, it does real good. It has an additional $20 winner that is not listed, and is probably the result of not putting the right number into Excel. This also shows that there are certain numbers to avoid, certain numbers to always choose, but you just can't be certain.

                It looks to me by analyzing this data that 013 and 039 should be good numbers. Before today, I had my biggest wins on 026 and 052. If you add those numbers and divide by 2 you get 39. Half of 26 is 13. Does this mean anything? I don't know, I was shocked to see that 019 won $75. It shows that while you never can tell, you can avoid certain numbers, especially if you have been following by the book number. It is not a perfect system, and as soon as I find it I will be a millionaire. If I had to say, I would say that I win on odd numbers more often, but have had the biggest winners on even numbers, that is until today.

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                  Notice anything odd? Some numbers do seem to win more often than others. Also note number 26. It lost 4 times, but won $150 one time. If you look at number 52, it does real good. It has an additional $20 winner that is not listed, and is probably the result of not putting the right number into Excel. This also shows that there are certain numbers to avoid, certain numbers to always choose, but you just can't be certain.

                  It looks to me by analyzing this data that 013 and 039 should be good numbers. Before today, I had my biggest wins on 026 and 052. If you add those numbers and divide by 2 you get 39. Half of 26 is 13. Does this mean anything? I don't know, I was shocked to see that 019 won $75. It shows that while you never can tell, you can avoid certain numbers, especially if you have been following by the book number. It is not a perfect system, and as soon as I find it I will be a millionaire. If I had to say, I would say that I win on odd numbers more often, but have had the biggest winners on even numbers, that is until today.

                  Wow, I really admire your work - you are very thorough! And thanks for the advice - do you think sticking to one $2 game, one $5 game, one $10 game, one $20 game, etc. would be best? I think I should keep a record, but I can't get myself to do it. I know I never win or hardly ever win on some numbers  - #55, and #7 for example.

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                    Here are some ticket numbers of note and wins/losses of late on certain games:

                    $20 Cash Fever

                    #24 W $100
                    #21 L
                    #7 L

                    $10 Winner Green

                    #8 L
                    #10 W, $20
                    #23 L
                    #29 L
                    #33 W, $40
                    #35 L
                    #50 W, $20
                    #55 L
                    #57 L
                    #58 L
                    #59 L

                    $10 Big Winner Spectacular

                    #0 L
                    #1 L & W $10
                    #5 L
                    #6 L
                    #30 W $100
                    #38 W $10
                    #48 L
                    #58 L
                    #75 W $15
                    #80 W $20
                    #86 W $20
                    #92 L
                    #94 L
                    #98 L
                    #103 L
                    #110 W $20

                    $10 Money Money Money

                    #1 L
                    #3 W $15
                    #7 W $15
                    #9 W $10
                    #11 W $15
                    #15 W $10
                    #18 L
                    #19 W $10
                    #20 L
                    #24 W $10
                    #25 L
                    #26 L
                    #27 W $10
                    #28 L
                    #29 L
                    #30 L
                    #31 W $15
                    #33 W $20
                    #35 L & W $20
                    #36 L
                    #46 W $40
                    #47 L (but I did win $200 on it in the past)
                    #50 L
                    #53 L
                    #55-59 L

                    $5 Snow Globe Cash

                    #19 W $5
                    #35 L & W $10
                    #36-37 L
                    #39 W $40
                    #50-53 L
                    #54 W, $5

                    #2 Jingle Bell Doubler (only a select few)

                    #000 W $100
                    #001 L
                    #002 L
                    #003 L
                    #004 W $4
                    #81 L, W $5, W $20
                    #145 W, $10
                    #146-149 L

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                      Wow, I really admire your work - you are very thorough! And thanks for the advice - do you think sticking to one $2 game, one $5 game, one $10 game, one $20 game, etc. would be best? I think I should keep a record, but I can't get myself to do it. I know I never win or hardly ever win on some numbers  - #55, and #7 for example.

                      I stick to a handful of games, but occasionally I will buy other tickets. I think a good mixture is OK, but I would get really good at a game, and play it a fair amount if you do well at it. It will be easier to win a game in my opinion, if you play it consistently. If I had to choose, I would say $5 tickets give me the best return on my money, and that is what I mainly play, along with $10 tickets. I would say that I might spend 2/3 of my money on $5 games, and most of the remainder on $10 games.

                      I would still urge you to keep the tickets, and/or record them. Try and make a habit of it, but if you don't want to then don't. I just find that it makes it very easy to see how much you are making, while still accounting for the cost of the ticket. You can also uncover patterns this way, which is the most important thing to me. I hate doing it, but I still make myself. You just can't keep up with your profits and losses from memory. From memory, I could say that on this past Monday I had around $100 allotted to the lottery, and that by the following Sunday, I had grown it to $265. But I could not remember exactly how I got there. That is why I record all of it.

                      I will buy $1, $2, and $3 games from time to time, but not regularly. 90% of the time, my lotto purchases will end in 5 or 0. If I have a couple of extra dollar bills left over, I might spend them on the cheaper tickets, but I very rarely buy more than one. The reason is that the smaller tickets do not win as often, and do not produce very much in return even if they do win. Even though we have both had big winners on them, you have to admit it is a fluke, not a regular thing. I think way too many people just view $1 bills as nothing, so they will keep on buying $1 tickets until they win. That may also explain why they don't win as often, besides having worse odds. So this leaves six that we must buy first, before we find that big $3 winner that is in there somewhere.

                      I went back to the station that I have been playing a lot at to turn in just $25 worth of winners, not the full $265.  I have three reasons. First of all, I won a lot at the new station I just started playing at, so I wanted to take them back there. Secondly, it was close to 0100, and that is when they shut down the terminals. Third, if you will remember the guy I was complaining about tearing up the tickets I wanted to keep, well he was even more ill tempered tonight.

                      He actually said that it was annoying that I always wanted to look at the tickets. As you know, I like to keep track of the book numbers, so I try and read those through the plexiglass box. He stated that I should stand in front of the counter, like 10 feet away from the boxes, and I should be able to read the ticket numbers. Note that the boxes are near other merchandise for sale right by it, so it is not like I was going behind the counter or anything. He then went on proclaiming that they could read me the ticket numbers, and I told him that I needed the book number too, and he said they could read me that too. I told him that I thought it would really slow things up if he had to constantly read the back of the tickets off to me, out of every ticket that I was considering. He said that most people just ask for a ticket and buy it.

                      I was getting very angry by this point, and I told him that I knew how to fix the problem. I said there is an idiot as our President, trying to point out that over half of the US voters are morons, and he was like so what? I guess he did not get my analogy, which as poor as it may have come across, the point was that not everyone thinks the same way, and half of the electorate are sheeple that would follow their chosen leader off of a cliff. I like the Excel column to be black when I tally it up, not red. Needless to say, I did not spend the money there.

                      Who would have thought that I actually want to make money, not lose it like most people do? Is it any wonder that most people only get back 1/2 or less of what they put in to the lottery? I am not most people, and did I mention that I like to make money? Not lose it? Yes, I am very careful, and that is why I study things the way I do. OK, back to the story. I see that this is going nowhere, so I tell him that he can help me by giving me his schedule so I can be sure to come back when he is not working. I asked if he was the owner of the store, and he said that he was. I then stated that I guess I don't have anyone else to complain to then. I thanked him and walked out.

                      His station is not the only one with winning tickets, as I just found out today; I made most of my money at one of his competitors, so I do not really need to worry about going back there again. I can't believe he would want to lose a customer over something that trivial. I guess the couple of hundred dollars a week that I spend there is not enough to justify keeping an annoying customer around. If I happen to live say 55 more years, and only spend $175 a week there, that is only $500,500 that he will be losing in gross sales revenue from me over that time period. Nah, I wouldn't worry about half a million dollars either.

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                        Here are some ticket numbers of note and wins/losses of late on certain games:

                        $20 Cash Fever

                        #24 W $100
                        #21 L
                        #7 L

                        $10 Winner Green

                        #8 L
                        #10 W, $20
                        #23 L
                        #29 L
                        #33 W, $40
                        #35 L
                        #50 W, $20
                        #55 L
                        #57 L
                        #58 L
                        #59 L

                        $10 Big Winner Spectacular

                        #0 L
                        #1 L & W $10
                        #5 L
                        #6 L
                        #30 W $100
                        #38 W $10
                        #48 L
                        #58 L
                        #75 W $15
                        #80 W $20
                        #86 W $20
                        #92 L
                        #94 L
                        #98 L
                        #103 L
                        #110 W $20

                        $10 Money Money Money

                        #1 L
                        #3 W $15
                        #7 W $15
                        #9 W $10
                        #11 W $15
                        #15 W $10
                        #18 L
                        #19 W $10
                        #20 L
                        #24 W $10
                        #25 L
                        #26 L
                        #27 W $10
                        #28 L
                        #29 L
                        #30 L
                        #31 W $15
                        #33 W $20
                        #35 L & W $20
                        #36 L
                        #46 W $40
                        #47 L (but I did win $200 on it in the past)
                        #50 L
                        #53 L
                        #55-59 L

                        $5 Snow Globe Cash

                        #19 W $5
                        #35 L & W $10
                        #36-37 L
                        #39 W $40
                        #50-53 L
                        #54 W, $5

                        #2 Jingle Bell Doubler (only a select few)

                        #000 W $100
                        #001 L
                        #002 L
                        #003 L
                        #004 W $4
                        #81 L, W $5, W $20
                        #145 W, $10
                        #146-149 L

                        I thought you said you didn't keep records. Those look like pretty good numbers to me, so you can ignore some of what I just wrote. I wrote it before I read your response. It looks like you are $88 ahead, overall, if I did the math correctly.

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                          I thought you said you didn't keep records. Those look like pretty good numbers to me, so you can ignore some of what I just wrote. I wrote it before I read your response. It looks like you are $88 ahead, overall, if I did the math correctly.

                          Hi, CarHauler - I just put that in from recent memory. There are some losses I forgot about, and if you go back further in time, I've been behind for a while. But I guess it might not be as bad as I thought. Thanks again! I guess we shouldn't talk politics - LOL. I'm disappointed in the President, but maybe not for the same reason as you. That's ok - we still have the Lotto to discuss - the main topic.

                          More good advice there. And yes, never put up with rude clerks. Lots of places sell the Lottery.

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                            Last two days spent $30 and $40 and got back $0 - zip. Today I bought Snow Globe Cash #54-56, and nothing. Cash Fever #27, nothing. Seems I just can't win  on games over $2 right now. I'm getting tired of the Lottery and at least in my area it doesn't seem worth playing right now. I think it's a combo of bad games and ticket hawks. If I get nothing on Wednesday, there will be a break, guaranteed.

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                              I just looked at the PA lottery page, and it looks like you are playing the newer games, I was going to recommend that, but you are already doing that. I have two main strategies: just buy only one of each ticket, and hope for a winner. I noticed that you buy 2 or 3 alot, and I do too, but if I lose three in a row, and I have the money, I will keep on buying until I win. Sometimes it works, like yesterday, but not always. I believe that there is a sizable winner in most every pack, but not all of them. When I read about the TNLoser, I wonder if there was a big winner right before he bought all of the losers. I am to the point that I only purchase $10 tickets one at a time, and scratch them off until I win, which is usually within 2 tickets, but not always. It is hard to say when to keep going, and when to just give up. I am reconsidering the fact that having a bunch of losers, followed by a ticket is a bad thing. It might signal a big win, just around the corner.

                              After going over my Jingle Jumbo Bucks purchases, I was able to closely examine the books and winners and loser. Too many times I had purchased two, and gone home to scratch them, and accepted $20 as a loss. I will only do this with single tickets from now on. It looks like in many cases, had I purchases another ticket, I would have won. I have won $100 and $50 on this game, but I have also won a lot of $10, $15, $20 and $25 winners. Unless you get a bigger winner, it is almost like it is a waste of your time. The trick is to find out where the winning tickets are, and that is very difficult.

                              I am tempted to save the $265 in winnings that I have, and add $35 to it and buy a book of tickets, just to see how an entire book performs. I doubt that I would win much more than 2/3 of my money back, if even that. The only hope would be a $500 winner, or a bunch of smaller winners that added up. In GA, we are lucky I think, in that all of our ticket books cost $300, no matter how many tickets are in it.

                              That does allow me to follow trends more easily. I know that 029 wins more times than it loses, but it usually wins $15 on average, so if you buy two tickets, you lose $5. On the other hand, I won my Jingle Bell $100 on 029, so you never know. My overall impression is that the numbers that have the least number of winners has the highest payouts, if that makes any sense. That strategy keeps people who play a lot from winning a disproportionate amount, even though they sometimes do. While I might be avoiding a certain number because it never wins, the inexperienced person might buy it not knowing any better, and they might end up with a big winner. Not that it always happens that way, just a thought.

                                 
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