HI RL. I for one have been waiting for someone like you to come along with a pic 3 program to try here in Mass. even though we are a pic 4 lottery but we payoff on the first 3 st and box as well. would like to test it when you are ready. Heres hoping.

retxx

The software covers all US pick-3 and pick-4 games except Oregon. OR has 4 draws per day and the live

update is not equiped for that. It also has 4 custom game files, two for pick-3 and 2 for pick-4. These

can be used for games outside the US but the user will have to use the manual update option.

RL

Working on my Ph.D. "University of hard Knocks"

I will consider the opinion that my winnings are a product of chance if you are willing to consider

they are not. Many great discoveries come while searching for something else

If we filter out all the N1 and N4 Pick 3 sets from the next drawing and only use N2, N3, N5, and N6 this would give us straight sets vs boxed winners.

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If we filter out all the N1 and N4 Pick 3 sets from the next drawing and only use N2, N3, N5, and N6 this would give us straight sets vs boxed winners.

Hope this made some sense!! lol

Winsum, how does filtering 2 of the six straight positions make this a straight vs box method? are you filtering these two positions because of recent hits? I don't recall ever seeing any mention of filtering by this method. how well does it work?

Park City, UT United States Member #69864 January 18, 2009 993 Posts Offline

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Quote: Originally posted by phileight on June 10, 2013

Winsum, how does filtering 2 of the six straight positions make this a straight vs box method? are you filtering these two positions because of recent hits? I don't recall ever seeing any mention of filtering by this method. how well does it work?

If I understand correctly I see the following:

There are 720 singles which can be reduced to 120 (6-way). The traditional way they are reduced to 120 is representing them in ascending order. Ascending order is what Winsum refers to as N1. N2 represents 120 numbers, N3 represents 120 numbers, N4 represents 120 numbers, N5 represents 120 numbers and N6 represents 120 numbers. So I assume a strategy could be to either Play or Block these 6 patterns based on history for straight play.

I think the key point is N1 represents what most pick3 players think of the 120 boxed sets out of the 720 singles. N2 thru N6 represent the other 600 singles.

I don't like the odds of successfully blocking a group (I think their are better plays) but maybe other people have better intuition when it comes to these type of selections. When calculating odds you have to remember that singles should only occur 72% of the time.

There will be 6 columns and each column will have 120 regular 6 way numbers under each heading. Column 1,2,3,4,5,6, .... We will end up with 3 odd and 3 even columns...3 high and 3 low columns.

120 numbers each column is 120 x 6 columns = 720 total straights.

During the year or 365 draws there will average around 100 doubles. This will leave us about 265 days for Six way numbers to hit. That's it.

If there are only 120 box numbers available then:

265 days / divided by 120 is = 2.2Hits per year on each of the 120 box numbers per year.

Some will hit more or less but most will average 2 hits per year.

Each one of the six positional columns listed above will average 44 hits each per year. Because.... 265 days /divided by 6 columns is = 44.16 each.

If you want to track the entire group of Positional Columns you can. Perhaps you can anticipate a straight this way. If you think its too much for you to do then try this. Follow just the Ascending and Descending columns.

Since each column averages 44 hits per year....... that means we can expect about44 ascendinghitsand 44 descending hits per year. (6 way only)

Just tracking this kind of group alone might be worth while for a straight catcher.

We should expect that 44+44 = 88ascending and decending 6 ways per year. This means that we can expect one of these two columns to hit around24% of the time. Almost like doubles( a little less).

Another way to look at it is ..... 12% of the time to look for an ASCENDING number or order. ......or every 8. 3days.

Bottom line is .....each group or each of the 6 columns should average a hit every 8.3 days ! Yes sirree ....

Last Edited: September 8, 2005, 7:54 pm

The only real failure .....is the failure to try.

Luck is a very rare thing....... Odds not so much.

Pennsylvania United States Member #2218 September 1, 2003 5396 Posts Online

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Quote: Originally posted by jimjwright on June 10, 2013

If I understand correctly I see the following:

There are 720 singles which can be reduced to 120 (6-way). The traditional way they are reduced to 120 is representing them in ascending order. Ascending order is what Winsum refers to as N1. N2 represents 120 numbers, N3 represents 120 numbers, N4 represents 120 numbers, N5 represents 120 numbers and N6 represents 120 numbers. So I assume a strategy could be to either Play or Block these 6 patterns based on history for straight play.

I think the key point is N1 represents what most pick3 players think of the 120 boxed sets out of the 720 singles. N2 thru N6 represent the other 600 singles.

I don't like the odds of successfully blocking a group (I think their are better plays) but maybe other people have better intuition when it comes to these type of selections. When calculating odds you have to remember that singles should only occur 72% of the time.

Jimmy

Ok the 1st set are the Triples which are identified as T1. Of course we would not play any triples since 1 should appear every 100 or so draws.

Next, we have D1 through D3 which are the doubles sets. Notice in the right column below we start with the lowest double and progress to the highest double dfor that particular number. There are a total of 90 per group D1, D2, D3. Only 43 of the 90 are shown.

Finally, we have the 6-way not match sets which is designated as N1 through N6. We would play these the most. There are 120 sets per "N" Group as JimJ mentioned 45 of the 120 are diplayed below due to screen capture limitations. A possible way to filter is to take you Pick 3 draw history and remove the last 2 "Nx" occurences.

There will be 6 columns and each column will have 120 regular 6 way numbers under each heading. Column 1,2,3,4,5,6, .... We will end up with 3 odd and 3 even columns...3 high and 3 low columns.

120 numbers each column is 120 x 6 columns = 720 total straights.

During the year or 365 draws there will average around 100 doubles. This will leave us about 265 days for Six way numbers to hit. That's it.

If there are only 120 box numbers available then:

265 days / divided by 120 is = 2.2Hits per year on each of the 120 box numbers per year.

Some will hit more or less but most will average 2 hits per year.

Each one of the six positional columns listed above will average 44 hits each per year. Because.... 265 days /divided by 6 columns is = 44.16 each.

If you want to track the entire group of Positional Columns you can. Perhaps you can anticipate a straight this way. If you think its too much for you to do then try this. Follow just the Ascending and Descending columns.

Since each column averages 44 hits per year....... that means we can expect about44 ascendinghitsand 44 descending hits per year. (6 way only)

Just tracking this kind of group alone might be worth while for a straight catcher.

We should expect that 44+44 = 88ascending and decending 6 ways per year. This means that we can expect one of these two columns to hit around24% of the time. Almost like doubles( a little less).

Another way to look at it is ..... 12% of the time to look for an ASCENDING number or order. ......or every 8. 3days.

Bottom line is .....each group or each of the 6 columns should average a hit every 8.3 days ! Yes sirree ....

Last Edited: September 8, 2005, 7:54 pm

Thanks WinD I think that pretty much sums it up!

I might be the exception but I think I would probably rather wait and target a double in its 28% hit expectancy versus a single in it's 72% hit expectancy.

If I made 3 High/Low decisions I would reduce the matrix to 125 numbers with expected hits 12.5% of the time and not worry about singles, doubles, or triples.

To successfully select N1 thru N6 would be 120 numbers with odds of 1/6 * .720 or 12% hit expectancy.

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Hello jimjwright....

I think very many "serious" odds players end up their playing careers in this game using Doubles .....exclusively.

Of the 2 old time pick 3 players I know of in this game .....that are actually making a substantial profit each year.....both are doubles players.

I've seen them playing for years .....I see them collect..... I see the cars they drive .. I wave when they go on vacations...... and I know the real estate they both own....but.. They don't share nothing.

One of them even went to Ga.Tech...... so the system must not be all that hard to use. LOL

The only real failure .....is the failure to try.

Luck is a very rare thing....... Odds not so much.

Pennsylvania United States Member #2218 September 1, 2003 5396 Posts Online

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As I mentioned in the video it would seem that taking the last 2 occurences, which for Midday drawing today if you were playing a "6-way" in New Jersey, to not use the N4 or N1 sets. The Hit & Skip chart at the top indicates what the current skip are for N1 through N6 along with "how many" times each has hit in the last 4,960 drawings.

Pennsylvania United States Member #2218 September 1, 2003 5396 Posts Online

Posted: June 10, 2013, 9:26 am - IP Logged

Above is a skip chart by position.

Position 1 you can see that the digit 1 has a skip of 21, digit 3 a skip of 25, and digit 5 a skip of 18

Position 2 you can see that the digit 4 has a skip of 20, digit 5 a skip of 21, and digit 8 a skip of 17

Position 3 you can see that the digit 1 has a skip of 26, digit 4 a skip of 61, and digit 9 a skip of 11

Note: Position 3 the digit 4 has a current skip of 61 stright draws without a hit. Using 4960 past draws the highest skip for this digit 4 in position 3 was 49 skips. It may be wise to not use the digit 4 and use the digit 6 instead. The highest skip total of all 9 digits is the digit 7 which was 71 skips.

So I would filter out the digits 1,2,5 for position 1, 4,5,8 for position 2, and 1,6,9 for position 3