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MonEl's avatar - 24zd6s0

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Thanks Gary. I'll study your suggestion and see how it goes. The game has over 5000 draw history so there is enough data to code and back test any idea one might have.

 

I think you might be comparing it to the games you have in the States, but it's quite different actually. It's a 5/90 game but almost nobody bets on five numbers. Most folks select and bet on two numbers. So it's more like a 2/90 game. There are 4005 two-number combinations from the 90. If you are sure of your two numbers, you go and sell the farm and bet it all on those two numbers!! The payoff is 200 times whatever you bet.

Well, then the chance might be 1/4005, no wonder that it pays X 200.

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    Well, then the chance might be 1/4005, no wonder that it pays X 200.

    Gotta be more to it than that. 90 times 89 = 8010. If it doesn't matter which order the pair falls, then you have 1/4005 for one pair.

    But If 1/90 pays $200, then they might as well shut that lottery down now.

    I spend $90 to play 90 numbers (one each in the first position). I win $200.

    I spend $180. Win $400.

    I spend $270. Win $600.

    I spend $360. Win $800.

    I spend $480. Win $1000.

    So far I've spent $1080 (all lottery money). I've won $3000.

    This time I spend $20 a number. Cost $1800 (of the lottery money).

    I win $4000.

    I double that bet. $3600. Win $8000.

    A couple of more bets, I'm now playing $100 a number, ($9000 total) to win $20000.

    There is no way to lose as long as I keep putting each of the 90 numbers in the first position At $1 a play I spend $90 with a guaranteed win of $200. 

    Lottery officials begin begging you to quit playing. Soon the government is asking for loans.

     

    There is more to this game than we know or understand.

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      Gotta be more to it than that. 90 times 89 = 8010. If it doesn't matter which order the pair falls, then you have 1/4005 for one pair.

      But If 1/90 pays $200, then they might as well shut that lottery down now.

      I spend $90 to play 90 numbers (one each in the first position). I win $200.

      I spend $180. Win $400.

      I spend $270. Win $600.

      I spend $360. Win $800.

      I spend $480. Win $1000.

      So far I've spent $1080 (all lottery money). I've won $3000.

      This time I spend $20 a number. Cost $1800 (of the lottery money).

      I win $4000.

      I double that bet. $3600. Win $8000.

      A couple of more bets, I'm now playing $100 a number, ($9000 total) to win $20000.

      There is no way to lose as long as I keep putting each of the 90 numbers in the first position At $1 a play I spend $90 with a guaranteed win of $200. 

      Lottery officials begin begging you to quit playing. Soon the government is asking for loans.

       

      There is more to this game than we know or understand.

      Hmmm Gary, you wish!! Maybe I didn't explain things well. My bad. 

       

      If you bet on one number and that number is the first to be drawn, the pay off is 36 times your stake amount. So your scheme fails right there.

      For two numbers (the order does not matter) the payoff is 200 times the bet amount. For 3 numbers it is 1700 times the bet amount. Four numbers pay 4,445 times and 5 numbers pay 35,500 times the bet amount.

       

      Yes, If it was as easy as you thought, the game would have folded up long ago. It has been in continuous existence since 1962 and is drawn daily.

       

      I know most of you are only interested in the stateside games.  I only mentioned the game here when RL said he previously had a tool that could pin down a couple of numbers once in a while. If you could pin down one number in every five, six or even seven draws, that would be another matter. 

      We all know predictions based on normal statistics (hot/cold etc) won't pin down a number accurately once every five draws.  I've coded and back tested all kinds of schemes and algorithms (including a modified T-lex that sees it as a 2/90 game).

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        Hmmm Gary, you wish!! Maybe I didn't explain things well. My bad. 

         

        If you bet on one number and that number is the first to be drawn, the pay off is 36 times your stake amount. So your scheme fails right there.

        For two numbers (the order does not matter) the payoff is 200 times the bet amount. For 3 numbers it is 1700 times the bet amount. Four numbers pay 4,445 times and 5 numbers pay 35,500 times the bet amount.

         

        Yes, If it was as easy as you thought, the game would have folded up long ago. It has been in continuous existence since 1962 and is drawn daily.

         

        I know most of you are only interested in the stateside games.  I only mentioned the game here when RL said he previously had a tool that could pin down a couple of numbers once in a while. If you could pin down one number in every five, six or even seven draws, that would be another matter. 

        We all know predictions based on normal statistics (hot/cold etc) won't pin down a number accurately once every five draws.  I've coded and back tested all kinds of schemes and algorithms (including a modified T-lex that sees it as a 2/90 game).

        "I only mentioned the game here when RL said he previously had a tool that could pin down a couple of numbers once in a while. If you could pin down one number in every five, six or even seven draws, that would be another matter." 

        Even if RL had such a tool he was probably talking about a game with an American format like a 5/39 game where the odds of matching 2 are 1:10 naturally.  Sounds like matching 2 in your game would have to be a lot harder than that.

        Do your game have a website where one can see present and past winners?

         * you don't need to buy more tickets, just buy a winning ticket * 
           
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          I found the program and here is a picture.  I had to build a database to get it to run but what it does

          is search every pair of numbers from the previous draw.  There are 10 pairs in a 5-number draw set

          and after moving through the 10 pairs it would rate the numbers from best to worst.  The rating was

          calculated by using the numbers of hits vs the current games out.  At least one number would come

          from the top hitters.  The program was built when my pick-5 game was a 5-30 and it's limited to a 

          5-40. 

          RL 

           

          2-number

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          I will consider the opinion that my winnings are a product of chance if you are willing to consider

          they are not.  Many great discoveries come while searching for something else

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            "Do your game have a website where one can see present and past winners?"

            Ya, RJOh. But apparently I'm not allowed to post a link here.

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              Hmmm Gary, you wish!! Maybe I didn't explain things well. My bad. 

               

              If you bet on one number and that number is the first to be drawn, the pay off is 36 times your stake amount. So your scheme fails right there.

              For two numbers (the order does not matter) the payoff is 200 times the bet amount. For 3 numbers it is 1700 times the bet amount. Four numbers pay 4,445 times and 5 numbers pay 35,500 times the bet amount.

               

              Yes, If it was as easy as you thought, the game would have folded up long ago. It has been in continuous existence since 1962 and is drawn daily.

               

              I know most of you are only interested in the stateside games.  I only mentioned the game here when RL said he previously had a tool that could pin down a couple of numbers once in a while. If you could pin down one number in every five, six or even seven draws, that would be another matter. 

              We all know predictions based on normal statistics (hot/cold etc) won't pin down a number accurately once every five draws.  I've coded and back tested all kinds of schemes and algorithms (including a modified T-lex that sees it as a 2/90 game).

              Thanks for the explanation. It's all good. When I started looking at the numbers I needed the additional info since the 1 in 90 for $200 total wasn't adding up.

              Spending $90 to win $36. Bad idea. LMAO

              Happy to get that cleared up.

              Thanks!

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                I found the program and here is a picture.  I had to build a database to get it to run but what it does

                is search every pair of numbers from the previous draw.  There are 10 pairs in a 5-number draw set

                and after moving through the 10 pairs it would rate the numbers from best to worst.  The rating was

                calculated by using the numbers of hits vs the current games out.  At least one number would come

                from the top hitters.  The program was built when my pick-5 game was a 5-30 and it's limited to a 

                5-40. 

                RL 

                 

                2-number

                Great, RL. I'm trying to understand the screen and the business logic so please bear with me.

                So we take the 10 pairs from the current draw and search for the number of times they've hit. Is this over the entire draw history or over a certain number of draws?

                We also compute the current games out for each of those 10 pairs.

                Now, what is the formula for calculating the rating using the number of hits vs the current games out?

                Once we have the ratings, which ones are considered the top hitters from which you said: "At least one number would come

                from the top hitters."?

                 

                Thanks for your patience.

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                  Great, RL. I'm trying to understand the screen and the business logic so please bear with me.

                  So we take the 10 pairs from the current draw and search for the number of times they've hit. Is this over the entire draw history or over a certain number of draws?

                  We also compute the current games out for each of those 10 pairs.

                  Now, what is the formula for calculating the rating using the number of hits vs the current games out?

                  Once we have the ratings, which ones are considered the top hitters from which you said: "At least one number would come

                  from the top hitters."?

                   

                  Thanks for your patience.

                  Suggestion:

                   

                  Upload the results you have to a hosting site like Box and post the link.

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                    "Do your game have a website where one can see present and past winners?"

                    Ya, RJOh. But apparently I'm not allowed to post a link here.

                    Thanks for the response, I did a web search and found other countries along with your country have 5/90 games.  Interesting, maybe the smaller matrixs weren't challenging enough.

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                      Thanks for the response, I did a web search and found other countries along with your country have 5/90 games.  Interesting, maybe the smaller matrixs weren't challenging enough.

                      RJOH, apparently this game is big business in Ghana. There are at least a couple of Facebook pages dedicated to predicting the outcome. Several articles talk about the professional predictors, people who make a living predicting the outcome.

                      As you mention there are several 5/90s, and at least one is a jackpot game with the current pot at $246,000. Haven't found any past results for any of them.

                      Same question about a banker number has been asked in many places. In the Narialand forum a poster identified as the GamblingQueen has been posting her predictions since Feb,2013! Shocked

                      Now, while I appreciate Cobby for participating in this thread, I hope he can appreciate my asking that he not turn this thread into the Ghana Lottery discussion. The reason I ask: Few, if any, have the results available, know the rules, or have access to the result. Without any of that, we're left with little to offer in the way of insight or help. 

                      Thanks,

                      G

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                        It's a 5/90 game. There's really no jackpot per se. The prize structure is multiples of what you bet. You can bet on anything from two to all the five numbers. For example, you can bet $1 on two numbers. If your two numbers are among the five drawn, you'll be paid $200. Three, four and five correct numbers pay higher multiples of your bet amount.

                        Actually, you can even bet on one number, but it has to be the first number drawn to win.

                        So, back to RL's point. If you could pin down one number correctly in say one out of every five games,  you'd ahead. Even once out of every seven games is ok.  But pinning down one number that often is quite elusive.

                        This is a matrix 5/90 of italian lotto  where the en was derived, basically the enalotto is equivalent to mega or powerball. The prize tag of 5/90 lotto is fixed, your betting amount is proportional to your prize. In Italy,5/90 is played in 10 States, and is very easy to win considerable sum. With matrix like this, probability is out of the equation(odds is just nuts!) is about finding a method to subset a section or finding a group within a certain time frame. I won 425 million lire(Equivalent of $250,000) years ago  during my residency in that country by betting and guessing  77-89-86 for 10 mille lira (10 x 425). I played ' TERNO SECCO', meaning 3 numbers. I could have wage 5 numbers and my prize will be 10 x 425/10(42millions), because you do have 10 triads in 5C . Lets say I suspect 77-88-86 hitting in one of the States, I can play only the triads (terno secco) for all the States, but my prize tag is 1/10 of bet amount (425/10 States), 5C for 10 States will be less(4.25 million) due to 10 triads(425/10 States x10 triads). I used to wage 6C4 (15 combos) targeting only 4C3(4 triads), in this case, a triad will win 425/4.

                        Prize tag

                        2/5 pays 250x bet amount

                        3/5 pays 425x bet amount

                        4/5 pays 80,000 bet amount

                        5/5 pays a million x bet amount

                        With the new currency (euro), this is the bet/prize tag chart in gross(calcolo Lordo) for unique State(sola routa)

                        Ambata> guess one number, Ambo>pair, Terno>three , quarteno> quad, Cinquina>5 numbers

                        see the prize goes with 5C1  to 5C5 , the matrix 5/90 is a different story. Supposing I wage 3C2 opting for only pair(ambo) to win, then my prize will be 250/3 (83.33),you have 3 pairs in a triad, so my 4C will pay

                        1125.00 euro x bet amount(450,00/4). This game is played in MALTA, GHANA,ITALY and folks like it very much due to the prize structure.

                        NB>I suggest you try NON-PARAMETRIC Sampling for data inference (Probability for normal distribution for whatever parameter  is non-factor).

                        Prontuario delle vincite al Lotto

                        Tabella di calcolo Lordo per una sola ruota

                        Num. giocatiambataestr. det.amboternoquaternacinquina
                        111,23255,00----
                        25,6127,50250,00---
                        33,7418,3383,334500,00--
                        42,8013,7541,661125,00120.000,00-
                        52,2411,0025,00450,0024.000,006.000.000,00
                        61,879,1616,66225,008.000,001.000.000,00
                        71,607,8511,90128,573.428,57285.714,28
                        81,406,878,9280,351.714,28107.142,85
                        91,246,116,9453,57952,3847.619,04
                        101,125,505,5537,50571,4223.809,52

                        See the last 10 draws(Estrazione)  for all the 10 states
                        28/07/15

                        ari64425413
                        Cagliari6333413557
                        Firenze616643180
                        Genova1578128241
                        Milano65486196
                        Napoli4582252962
                        Palermo217778382
                        Roma218166463
                        Torino7664776290
                        Venezia69102337
                        Nazionale7637778216

                        Estrazione n. 89del 25/07/2015

                        RUOTA1o estr.2o estr.3o estr.4o estr.5o estr.
                        Bari5846414039
                        Cagliari8835572865
                        Firenze612645643
                        Genova3564882874
                        Milano5878596625
                        Napoli8522305040
                        Palermo7369906375
                        Roma3177716880
                        Torino3974463082
                        Venezia8127727871
                        Nazionale7556647230

                        Estrazione n. 88del 23/07/2015

                        RUOTA1o estr.2o estr.3o estr.4o estr.5o estr.
                        Bari2868845
                        Cagliari5522201351
                        Firenze8741827335
                        Genova1465333526
                        Milano618657798
                        Napoli4942337544
                        Palermo8131107540
                        Roma8472447836
                        Torino751958353
                        Venezia2814852644
                        Nazionale2613388440

                        Estrazione n. 87del 21/07/2015

                        RUOTA1o estr.2o estr.3o estr.4o estr.5o estr.
                        Bari6165465157
                        Cagliari4174887914
                        Firenze3439854568
                        Genova60596161
                        Milano5155183917
                        Napoli147157559
                        Palermo8160193048
                        Roma842841772
                        Torino688294671
                        Venezia603614469
                        Nazionale4148223744

                        Estrazione n. 86del 18/07/2015

                        RUOTA1o estr.2o estr.3o estr.4o estr.5o estr.
                        Bari325413111
                        Cagliari446892888
                        Firenze5256873775
                        Genova7058336827
                        Milano6787264973
                        Napoli5538292434
                        Palermo6040646715
                        Roma523830363
                        Torino513971813
                        Venezia145092254
                        Nazionale4833788643

                        Estrazione n. 85del 16/07/2015

                        RUOTA1o estr.2o estr.3o estr.4o estr.5o estr.
                        Bari808964660
                        Cagliari3157894324
                        Firenze5877107454
                        Genova78615714
                        Milano2954226175
                        Napoli4532435827
                        Palermo788967682
                        Roma3013423726
                        Torino6953703455
                        Venezia8926735413
                        Nazionale3567192973

                        Estrazione n. 84del 14/07/2015

                        RUOTA1o estr.2o estr.3o estr.4o estr.5o estr.
                        Bari336826738
                        Cagliari7720116958
                        Firenze851099075
                        Genova38855447
                        Milano7686154463
                        Napoli767827529
                        Palermo33793894
                        Roma235745555
                        Torino5745196629
                        Venezia2678775567
                        Nazionale18274468

                        Estrazione n. 83del 11/07/2015

                        RUOTA1o estr.2o estr.3o estr.4o estr.5o estr.
                        Bari1375457757
                        Cagliari1857855927
                        Firenze3588114954
                        Genova4617224438
                        Milano705464225
                        Napoli587389106
                        Palermo464137189
                        Roma6484489
                        Torino6223112152
                        Venezia415061874
                        Nazionale636689782

                        Estrazione n. 82del 09/07/2015

                        RUOTA1o estr.2o estr.3o estr.4o estr.5o estr.
                        Bari872112291
                        Cagliari1073258034
                        Firenze3531241918
                        Genova4920253110
                        Milano735690665
                        Napoli8017535484
                        Palermo5288802051
                        Roma4120808955
                        Torino1130827364
                        Venezia1265381568
                        Nazionale2729686684

                        Estrazione n. 81del 07/07/2015

                        RUOTA1o estr.2o estr.3o estr.4o estr.5o estr.
                        Bari2560754318
                        Cagliari643766246
                        Firenze6663768541
                        Genova1143366344
                        Milano3390642572
                        Napoli153875548
                        Palermo3866471612
                        Roma325622472
                        Torino3742766831
                        Venezia848897812
                        Nazionale8055767140
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                          The pair being searched is shown at the very top along with the total number of hits.

                          The green bracketed numbers are the actual numbers in the pool.  The next value under

                          hits shows the number of times that number showed in the next drawing after the pair

                          being searched hit.  The next value "dark blue is the average skips between hits.  The

                          entire history is used in the search but only the pair groupings are counted.   The program

                          searches until it finds both numbers within the same line then records the numbers that

                          hit in the next drawing.   If you look at the number 20, lower left you will see that after

                          the pair 23/25 hit.

                          Number 20 showed in the next drawing 9 times

                          Number 20's average is 1 in 4.1 games

                          Number 20's L/D = Last drawn is 7 games out then before that it was 6 games out then 1

                          etc....

                          These values represent the next draw after 23/25 were in the same line/set in history

                          which can be confusing if you don't know how they are calculated.

                           

                          IMHO the number 20 looks very good to hit in the next game but this is based only on one

                          pairing 23/25.  It has the most shows after a 23/25 hit and is also at it's max skips given the

                          history of the game.  The database used here is not up to date so any fellow show me cash

                          players should not use this for tonight's drawing.

                           

                          The top 5 for each pair being searched is recorded to a text file which is displayed when all

                          10 searches are finished.   The rest is done by hand comparing the L/D= "Last-Drawn" and

                          the total hits.   Many times one or more numbers from the top 5 overall will show in the next

                          game.   Many times the same value will show good with different pairs so the overall can look

                          very good.   When using all 10 pairs many times the same numbers will show strong.  It's also

                          possible that it may show strong for one pair and bad for all the others.  It takes a few hand

                          workouts to dig out the best numbers to play.  The wife always seemed to provide me with

                          one or two numbers that would show in the next drawing. 

                           

                          Very simple.

                          RL

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                            Now, while I appreciate Cobby for participating in this thread, I hope he can appreciate my asking that he not turn this thread into the Ghana Lottery discussion. The reason I ask: Few, if any, have the results available, know the rules, or have access to the result. Without any of that, we're left with little to offer in the way of insight or help. 

                            Gary, this is still a discussion on topic about how random is random. Forget about the specifics of the game I play. Many people study the results of many different games. The question I'm really asking is whether anybody has a scheme for accurately pinning down one number in a set of 'randomly' generated numbers once in a while.

                            Can you do it with a 5/24 matrix? 6/49?  The matrix is irrelevant. If you can pin down a number or two often, then the answer to you question is that maybe random isn't so random after all.

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                              Now, while I appreciate Cobby for participating in this thread, I hope he can appreciate my asking that he not turn this thread into the Ghana Lottery discussion. The reason I ask: Few, if any, have the results available, know the rules, or have access to the result. Without any of that, we're left with little to offer in the way of insight or help. 

                              Gary, this is still a discussion on topic about how random is random. Forget about the specifics of the game I play. Many people study the results of many different games. The question I'm really asking is whether anybody has a scheme for accurately pinning down one number in a set of 'randomly' generated numbers once in a while.

                              Can you do it with a 5/24 matrix? 6/49?  The matrix is irrelevant. If you can pin down a number or two often, then the answer to you question is that maybe random isn't so random after all.

                              It's probably a mute point but RL said he was working with a 5/39 matrix or smaller where there is a 1:10 chance or better of matching any two numbers naturally.

                              Ohio has a 5/39 game Rolling Cash5 and to back test that theory I combined the three most popular combinations of two's into one combination of five to see what would have happened.

                              In 3811 drawings:
                              15 and 36 appeared 76 times
                              04 and 07 appeared 73 times
                              36 and 38 appeared 73 times

                              The combination 04-07-15-36-38 matched two 453 times, matched three 51 times and matched four 3 times and with Ohio's payouts would have returned $1863 of a $3811 investment or 49¢ on the dollar.

                              Since this combination has never matched 5, I may play it for the next ten drawings and future test it.  I'm going to at least post it on the prediction board.

                               * you don't need to buy more tickets, just buy a winning ticket * 
                                 
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