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Should illegal immigrants be able to claim lottery prizes?

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Should illegal immigrants be able to claim lottery prizes?

Yes [ 31 ]  [27.43%]
No [ 65 ]  [57.52%]
Does it really matter? [ 17 ]  [15.04%]
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Posted: July 21, 2010, 9:14 pm - IP Logged

tiggs has no idea what anyone is talking about on this thread..tiggs wishes everyone would make sense like tiggs does..Understand????...

You have to go to ThatScarychick, reply on the thread, then you will see where she posted here about the Murphy's!...come on tiggs keep up will you!SmashSmiley

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    Posted: July 21, 2010, 9:25 pm - IP Logged

    Funny thing. Talk about perspective. We have LEGAL citizens who have power in government, and outside government, especially outside government, that cause much more harm.

    No.....the illegal shouldn't be able to claim the prize.

    Neither should the shadow government be allowed to get away with killing over 3,000 innocent folks in order to fullfill their agendas.

    If you try to make sense out of things that make no sense, it'll drive you crazy. All the big wigs are in cahoots with each other, and most people don't seem to be up in arms about this.

    A real good analogy reflecting real life would be when my dad had a cigarette in his hand, while lecturing me to not smoke.

    When the people who wrote the laws practice what they preach, then and only then will I take life seriously.

     

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      Posted: July 21, 2010, 9:29 pm - IP Logged

      You have to go to ThatScarychick, reply on the thread, then you will see where she posted here about the Murphy's!...come on tiggs keep up will you!SmashSmiley

      Brain has told tiggs to try to keep up...Have no idea what she means...

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        Funny thing. Talk about perspective. We have LEGAL citizens who have power in government, and outside government, especially outside government, that cause much more harm.

        No.....the illegal shouldn't be able to claim the prize.

        Neither should the shadow government be allowed to get away with killing over 3,000 innocent folks in order to fullfill their agendas.

        If you try to make sense out of things that make no sense, it'll drive you crazy. All the big wigs are in cahoots with each other, and most people don't seem to be up in arms about this.

        A real good analogy reflecting real life would be when my dad had a cigarette in his hand, while lecturing me to not smoke.

        When the people who wrote the laws practice what they preach, then and only then will I take life seriously.

         

        Never gonna happen. Duplicity is human nature. The best you can do is enjoy life until someone or something takes it from you.

        $1,000,000

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          Posted: July 21, 2010, 10:32 pm - IP Logged

          Brain has told tiggs to try to keep up...Have no idea what she means...

          Tiggs... aahh...she means she Loves you!!! Daa!!! at least get that tiggs...for gooness sakes!!!Poke! 1 

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            Posted: July 21, 2010, 10:40 pm - IP Logged

            Brain has told tiggs to try to keep up...Have no idea what she means...

            LOL tiggs!!

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              Posted: July 21, 2010, 11:31 pm - IP Logged

              Ok dr, The Illegal Murphy's from Boston, Mass. not withstanding!!  I did not think so!!!  Thank you!

              lol jrosina! yes!

              The illegal Murphy's should wait for their visas but have their ticket confiscated. They do not deserve to take their winnings with them nor

              do they deserve special treatment in order to keep their millions....ie, have their visas pushed through and granted due to unusual

              circumstances....ie winning big $$$$$$$.

              They are here illegally by neglecting to process through the system so, should not be entitled to any perk, bonus, prize, right of an American citizen

              since they refused to become citizens and slipped through the system. I don't understand why they should be able to take their winnings with

              them either.

              As far as the reference to the Powerball Q's and A's....tourists the Murphy's are not, they're not residents, they're not citizens and probably didn't

              plan on becoming citizens - (being here since 1986) - anytime soon BUT had to get things in gear and quick because, by Joe, they won the

              Powerball. Oh! but someone else decided if they're turned down for a visa, they get to take the money with them! The statement referring to

              not having to be a citizen or resident or only being considered a tourist means people who travel here (then leave) and are permitted to do so

              legally. Not people who enter the USA and decide to stay indefinitely on their own terms.

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                Posted: July 22, 2010, 12:16 am - IP Logged

                tiggs has no idea what anyone is talking about on this thread..tiggs wishes everyone would make sense like tiggs does..Understand????...

                tiggs,

                Sure now laddie, the <snip> sponsors the Murphys way across the pond and gets them cash paying jobs in Boston, New York, And Chicago, and the Murphys kick a little bit back to the <snip>.

                ANOTHER ROUND OF GUINNESS STOUT PADDIE AND PUT A NATION ONCE AGAIN ON THE JUKEBOX!

                Before this latest invasion of illegals coming through Mexico the Murphys were the largest grouop of illegals in the country, but looking like mopsyt of the population they blended right in.

                Big differnece though, Mike and Paddie came here to work, not to bleed the system dry.

                Coin Toss has no idea whatsoever how he knows any of this.

                BEGORRAH LADS, BEGORRAH! 26+6=1! UP THE REPUBLIC AND <SNIP> THE QUEEN!

                Lep

                With the risin' o' the moon, with the risin' o' the moon.....

                As for the question in the OP, I understand the sentiment against letting illegals claim lottery prizes, and what rdgrnr said makes a lot of sense and would proably get him elected in Arizona, BUT, and this is a big BUT, taking somebody's money on any kind of bet with the intention of not paying them if they win isn't a lottery, it's a scam.

                Ut oh

                Those who run the lotteries love it when players look for consistency in something that's designed not to have any.

                Lep

                There is one and only one 'proven' system, and that is to book the action. No matter the game, let the players pick their own losers.

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                  Posted: July 22, 2010, 12:26 am - IP Logged

                  What about those people who travel here from other countries like Canada, France, Germany, etc. and buy tickets? They aren't legal citizens either. What if someone from Germany who is on vacation wins? Aren't they entitled to their winnings if they win? I have friends who buy lottery tickets from Canada and they are not legal citizens of that country. If they had won shouldn't they get the money? Honestly, I don't believe there are any rules in place that say you have to be an American citizen to buy tickets. If there is such a rule, please post a link.

                  If the tourist are in the country legally, they should have no problems cashing lottery tickets but the IRS instructs the lotteries to deduct more than the 25%. When we cash tickets over $600, we are asked for a photo ID and SS card so I imagine the state lotteries have provisions for non-residences to show their passport and/or green card.

                  Arizona could pass out winning tickets to the illegals and round them up when they show up to cash them.

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                    Two things, 1) set aside the money and give them ONE year to 'become' legal then they can claim it.  2) then TAX them an extra 10% which goes DIRECTLY to the BORDER PATROL budget.

                    Money won is twice as good as money earned!

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                      Posted: July 22, 2010, 4:43 am - IP Logged

                      I don't care for the idea of any lottery looking for excuses not to pay prizes.  It's one thing to check the winner out and pay their child support and other bills they can now afford to pay and likely still wouldn't on their own, it's another thing to welch on the bet.

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                        Posted: July 22, 2010, 6:09 am - IP Logged

                        Real simple they are here illegally  there fore they should not have no rights and should be deported ! Just the same if a US citizen who goes to another country, we should be treated the same if we are caught there breaking the law if we are there illegally. Sorry shall we give them a cushy life , myself and millions of other US citizen work, and abid by our laws to enjoy the life style we wish to live and at times struggle to get the benifits we deserve ( heath care , retirement , ect ) unlike others who walk in illegally and dont pay a dime, or  a life time of dues in working and living in our wonderfull country but ---bang cash cow ---we take care of them .  So no - they are illegal no pay off --dont pay them the winning so they can jump back across the border to live like " KINGS "-- off the illegal gotten lottery winnings ! ----Man will I get fried for this postNo Pity!

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                          Posted: July 22, 2010, 6:26 am - IP Logged

                          Thanks for the post AJ.  I don't think you'll be fried because what you say is absolutely valid.  There are many posts concerning this situation that are valid.  The poll question has raised a personal challenge to me.  Yes, I will contact the representative in my state and in my district.  As well as the elected official who has the responsibility in these matters.  For all I know there may already be laws here in Virginia forbidding payment of lottery prizes to illegals.  If such laws already exist, then shouldn't there be laws forbidding illegals to purchase lottery tickets?  Should then everyone, including myself, show proof of citizenship before being qualified to buy a lottery ticket?  And it goes on and on....!  Elected officials realy do want to hear from their constituents on any matter of civil laws.  All of us should be motivated to contact our representatives.

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                            Posted: July 22, 2010, 7:00 am - IP Logged

                            no!

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                              Posted: July 22, 2010, 7:35 am - IP Logged

                              Two things, 1) set aside the money and give them ONE year to 'become' legal then they can claim it.  2) then TAX them an extra 10% which goes DIRECTLY to the BORDER PATROL budget.

                              You mean don't shoot them at the border?!Unhappy....okApprove, that's a good second and third alternative!!!Wink

                              forget what "they" say about youWhat you say about you?...

                              Now, does it count??

                               

                               

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