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Should illegal immigrants be able to claim lottery prizes?

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Should illegal immigrants be able to claim lottery prizes?

Yes [ 31 ]  [27.43%]
No [ 65 ]  [57.52%]
Does it really matter? [ 17 ]  [15.04%]
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Posted: July 22, 2010, 7:30 pm - IP Logged

Oh I get it. And if it is that big of a deal then tell all the retailers who has received that illegal tender from the  illegal immigrants when they shopped in their stores WAL-MART K-Mart Target Cost Co Sams Wholesale Kroger Safeway Minyards Piggly-Wiggly Nissan Chrysler Ford GM Chevrolet Kia Dodge Sony Time Warner Cable Dish Network the water companies the light companies  Ma Bell and the Baby Bells the cellular companies tell them all the money they received was obtained was done illegally.

Do YOU really think they give a fat rats azz about where or how or the legal status of their customers? NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!! They don't so why should I?

If they paid their money to purchase a ticket then they deserve to win just like everyone that purchased a ticket!!!!!

Tell all the U.S. businesses that they should not do business with these people because they are illegal immigrants and the money they obtained was done illegally and you know as well as I, they'd probably have you escorted from the premises.

In case YOU haven't figured it out, AS LONG AS THE GOVERNMENT GETS IT'S SHARE, there are no problems.

This country is built, maintained, and thrives on GREED.  Just ask all of the fat cats that we keep in office year after year after year. And ask all the fat cats pockets we line with our disposable income from the purchases we convince ourselves we NEED.

I don't care if it is a prostitute, priest, or Charles Manson that wins. They purchased a ticket and that's that.

I don't know how you wound up out there on the planet: OFF TOPIC.

You are missing the point.

Travel to any foreign country that runs a lottery, buy your lottery ticket and collect your winnings if your numbers match. No problemo...UNLESS

you have entered their country illegally with the intent of remaining there indefinitely, neglected to register as a permanent resident or become a

citizen of that nation.

Then, don't collect one <snip> penny.

You are not entitled to winnings being a law breaker. Plain and simple.

 

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    rdgrnr's avatar - walt
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    According to the Poll, it looks like the No's have it by a landslide, 35-18 so far.

    This speaks well for our cumulative IQ.


                                                 
                         
                                             

     

     

     

     

                                                                                                       

    "The only thing necessary for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing"

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      According to the Poll, it looks like the No's have it by a landslide, 35-18 so far.

      This speaks well for our cumulative IQ.

      Go figure....I wonder why....lol....ROFL

       

      In just about every forum, you'll have folks who will come out of the wood work, and try to defy logic, and not just with this subject, but with all the others.

      Where would we draw the line?......Should people who are in prison qualify? Why stop here?.....it's a free for all guys and gals.....Do whatever you want....Don't worry that it's agianst the law...lol

      We all know politicians are wringing us dry....seee?.......If they can do it...so can we....

      Now you have a country with  no laws, and every freak running down the streets in his underwear brandishing a machete....lol

      Sorry Ridge...the wine just kicked in...lol

      But I agree, the majority here on LP are very smart. And that's why the high numbers on the common sense side...

       

        rdgrnr's avatar - walt
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        Go figure....I wonder why....lol....ROFL

         

        In just about every forum, you'll have folks who will come out of the wood work, and try to defy logic, and not just with this subject, but with all the others.

        Where would we draw the line?......Should people who are in prison qualify? Why stop here?.....it's a free for all guys and gals.....Do whatever you want....Don't worry that it's agianst the law...lol

        We all know politicians are wringing us dry....seee?.......If they can do it...so can we....

        Now you have a country with  no laws, and every freak running down the streets in his underwear brandishing a machete....lol

        Sorry Ridge...the wine just kicked in...lol

        But I agree, the majority here on LP are very smart. And that's why the high numbers on the common sense side...

         

        Yeah, I'm waitin for this Bud to kick in but I may have to accelerate the process with a few fingers o' Jack. I just recently added Bud to my summer rotation.

        Sometimes to understand certain people I find it necessary to be in an altered state.


                                                     
                             
                                                 

         

         

         

         

                                                                                                           

        "The only thing necessary for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing"

                                                                                                    --Edmund Burke

         

         

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          Posted: July 22, 2010, 8:59 pm - IP Logged

          Immigration status is a hot debate in this country. It varies from state to state, but many states do not have laws against illegal aliens claiming lottery prizes. Here in California an illegal immigrant collected a $2,000,000 prize and two days later was deported to Mexico, with his money. In North Carolina, lawmakers are trying to put into place a ban against undocumented people collecting prizes, whereas in South Carolina such a law already exists. Keep in mind that a common lottery scam is people giving money to a person who claims to not be able claim a lottery prize b/c they are illegal. Folks purchase the winning ticket off of them to find out that the ticket is fake or has no prize to claim. I'm not defending the intelligence of the victim in these cases, but it does happen.

           

          My thought is that if you can purchase the ticket you should be able to collect the prize. The money spent still goes to state and education funds that the state puts towards them. So, regardless of who you are - if you can buy you can win.

           

          What are your thoughts?

          Immigration is a Federal Responsibility: If they don't step up to their Responsibility: Then the States Must Do What's Necessary!

          Between 12 and 20 million illegal immigrants are estimated to be living in the United States; due to the nature of illegal immigration, the exact number is unknown. The majority of the illegal immigrants are from Latin America. Illegal immigration has been a longstanding issue in the United States, creating immense controversy.

          16 illegals sue Arizona rancher:
          An Arizona man who has waged a 10-year campaign to stop a flood of illegal immigrants from crossing his property is being sued by 16 Mexican nationals who accuse him of conspiring to violate their civil rights when he stopped them at gunpoint on his ranch on the U.S.-Mexico border. He began rounding up illegal immigrants in 1998 and turning them over to the U.S. Border Patrol, after they destroyed his property, killed his calves and broke into his home. His Ranch near Douglas, Az, is known by federal and county law enforcement authorities as "the avenue of choice" for immigrants seeking to enter the United States illegally.

          Illegals Granted Social Security:
          The Senate voted to allow illegal aliens to collect Social Security benefits based on past illegal employment -- even if the job was obtained through forged or stolen documents. "There was a felony they were committing, and now they can't be prosecuted. That sounds like amnesty to me," said Sen. John Ensign, the Nevada Republican who offered the amendment to strip out those provisions of the immigration reform bill. "It just boggles the mind how people could be against this amendment."

          Do Illegal Immigrants Have More Rights Than Americans?
          For decades, the desert between Naco and Douglas, Arizona and the mountainous country between Douglas and Cloverdale, New Mexico have been busy crossing points for drug smugglers and "ordinary" illegal aliens. Since the Border Patrol cracked down on the major southwestern migrant thoroughfares of Tijuana, Tucson, and El Paso in the 1990s, the volume of human traffic coming through the vicinity of Douglas in Cochise County has increased dramatically, to the consternation of residents whose land is crisscrossed by trails worn by tens of thousands of scurrying feet, their dogs killed, their property damaged. Unsolved murders and arsons are common. Citizens acting in self-defense worry about retaliation by coyotes smuggling people and "narco-militarists" running drugs.

          U.S. immigrant detentions violate human rights:
          No matter how absurd their arguments.

          "The United States has long been a country of immigrants, and whether they have been here five years or five generations, their human rights are to be respected."

          How many times must we hear this preposterous canard.

          The United States is no more a 'country of immigrants' than is every other country on the face on the earth.

          And like every other country on the planet it has the right � and duty � to protect its citizenry from plundering hordes.

          "The use of detention as a tool to combat unauthorized migration falls short of international human rights law,"

          Well, then it is a good thing that International Human Rights Law (whatever that is) has no jurisdiction within the United States.

          No, the only outrage here is that the governments to our south encourage this invasion, and that we are doing nothing to punish them.

          A mind once stretched by a new idea never returns to its original dimensions!

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            Posted: July 22, 2010, 9:33 pm - IP Logged

            For the Record- ILLEGAL is Quite clearly defined in webster dictionary. IT has a reason to be stated in this poll.

            I voted NO because I GET the concept of ILLEGAL and all the ramifications that trickle thru our system.

            To the poster who thinks an employer has NO way of knowing if an applicant is here legally or not, THINK AGAIN. Its made clear when they apply for a business license and FEDERAL  EIN. A business can be wiped out if they employee knowingly and cover the records. I wont go into corporate law here other then to say this, THAT PRACTICE Too is ILLEGAL.

            Which reminds me, I am non affliated with Lib's, Demo's, Repukes, Left wings, RIght wings, No wings or hot wings. ALthough Hot wings are on sale here at our market place! Yum!

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              From a friend in Arizona:

              ARIZONAFBI STATS ... WHY THEY NEED THE NEW LAW

              With all the negative reports being printed in the news media here are the statistics they fail to report. The numbers don't lie. And these are the official numbers that are usually kept under what they really are. Please pass this along.

              Well folks, here are the numbers The following information IS compiled from Federal Bureau of Investigation and Department of Homeland Security reports
              :

              * 83% of warrants for murder in Phoenix are for illegal aliens.

              * 86% of warrants for murder in Albuquerque are forillegal aliens.

              * 75% of those on the most wanted list in Los Angeles , Phoenix and Albuquerque areillegal aliens.


              * 24.9% of all inmates in California detention centers are Mexican nationals

              * 40.1% of all inmates in Arizona detention centers are Mexican nationals

              * 48.2% of all inmates in New Mexico detention centers are Mexican nationals

              * 29% (630,000) convicted illegal alien felons fill our state and Federal prisons at a cost of $1.6 billion annually

              * 53% plus of all investigated burglaries reported in California, New Mexico, Nevada, Arizona and Texas are perpetrated by illegal aliens.

              * 50% plus of all gang members in Los Angeles are illegal aliens


              * 71% plus of all apprehended cars stolen in 2005 in Texas, New Mexico, Arizona, Nevada and California were stolen by Illegal aliens or "transport coyotes".

              * 47% of cited/stopped drivers in California have no license, no insurance and no registration for the vehicle. Of that 47%, 92% are illegal aliens.


              * 63% of cited/stopped drivers in Arizona have no license, no insurance and no registration for the vehicle. Of that 63%, 97% are illegal aliens

              * 66% of cited/stopped drivers in New Mexico have no license, no insurance and no registration for the vehicle. Of that 66% 98% are illegal aliens.

              * 380,000 plus "anchor babies" were born in the US to illegal alien parents in just one year, making 380,000 babies automatically US citizens (which is UN-Constitutional; illegal).


              * 97.2% of all costs incurred from those illegal births were paid by the American taxpayers. That is almost ALL of them !

              And remember YOU are supporting ALL of these illegal's no matter where they are now. Every time another illegal runs the border breaking our laws, your pocket just gets lighter and robbed more.



              Those who run the lotteries love it when players look for consistency in something that's designed not to have any.

              Lep

              There is one and only one 'proven' system, and that is to book the action. No matter the game, let the players pick their own losers.

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                On the one hand, there's a saying "America has always had a problem with illegal immigration, ask any Native American!", and a tee- shirt with four armed braves that says, "Providing Homeland Security since 1838" or something similar.

                On the other hand there's the following. I'm not sure that Arizona's governor really said it or posted it, but even if not, it sure makes a lot of sense:

                This is after the Phoenix Suns were protesting the new law in AZ:
                 Much has been said against AZ's move to do the Federal Government's job.
                 The following was sent by a friend and pokes fun at the Suns.
                 To see where it came from, you'll understand when you see the last line.
                 
                      "What if the owners of the Suns discovered that hordes
                         of  people were sneaking into games without paying?
                 
                       What if they had a good idea who the gate crashers are, but the
                     ushers and security personnel were not allowed to ask these folks to produce their ticket stubs, thus non-paying attendees couldn't  be ejected.
                 
                       Furthermore, what if Suns' ownership was expected to provide
                        those who sneaked in with complimentary eats and drink?
                 
                       And what if, on those days when a gate-crasher became ill or
                        injured, the Suns had to provide free medical care and shelter?"
                 
                               posted by:  Arizona Gov. Jan Brewer on FaceBook
                 

                 

                 


                 

                 

                   

                 

                 

                 

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                  Posted: July 22, 2010, 9:50 pm - IP Logged

                  From a friend in Arizona:

                  ARIZONAFBI STATS ... WHY THEY NEED THE NEW LAW

                  With all the negative reports being printed in the news media here are the statistics they fail to report. The numbers don't lie. And these are the official numbers that are usually kept under what they really are. Please pass this along.

                  Well folks, here are the numbers The following information IS compiled from Federal Bureau of Investigation and Department of Homeland Security reports
                  :

                  * 83% of warrants for murder in Phoenix are for illegal aliens.

                  * 86% of warrants for murder in Albuquerque are forillegal aliens.

                  * 75% of those on the most wanted list in Los Angeles , Phoenix and Albuquerque areillegal aliens.


                  * 24.9% of all inmates in California detention centers are Mexican nationals

                  * 40.1% of all inmates in Arizona detention centers are Mexican nationals

                  * 48.2% of all inmates in New Mexico detention centers are Mexican nationals

                  * 29% (630,000) convicted illegal alien felons fill our state and Federal prisons at a cost of $1.6 billion annually

                  * 53% plus of all investigated burglaries reported in California, New Mexico, Nevada, Arizona and Texas are perpetrated by illegal aliens.

                  * 50% plus of all gang members in Los Angeles are illegal aliens


                  * 71% plus of all apprehended cars stolen in 2005 in Texas, New Mexico, Arizona, Nevada and California were stolen by Illegal aliens or "transport coyotes".

                  * 47% of cited/stopped drivers in California have no license, no insurance and no registration for the vehicle. Of that 47%, 92% are illegal aliens.


                  * 63% of cited/stopped drivers in Arizona have no license, no insurance and no registration for the vehicle. Of that 63%, 97% are illegal aliens

                  * 66% of cited/stopped drivers in New Mexico have no license, no insurance and no registration for the vehicle. Of that 66% 98% are illegal aliens.

                  * 380,000 plus "anchor babies" were born in the US to illegal alien parents in just one year, making 380,000 babies automatically US citizens (which is UN-Constitutional; illegal).


                  * 97.2% of all costs incurred from those illegal births were paid by the American taxpayers. That is almost ALL of them !

                  And remember YOU are supporting ALL of these illegal's no matter where they are now. Every time another illegal runs the border breaking our laws, your pocket just gets lighter and robbed more.



                  Thanks Cointoss will pass this on asap.

                  Did you exchange a walk on part in the war ?

                  For a lead role in a cage?

                   

                                                              From Pink Floyd's " Wish you were here"

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                    Yeah, that's it Sully, since 1492.

                    Those who run the lotteries love it when players look for consistency in something that's designed not to have any.

                    Lep

                    There is one and only one 'proven' system, and that is to book the action. No matter the game, let the players pick their own losers.

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                      For the Record- ILLEGAL is Quite clearly defined in webster dictionary. IT has a reason to be stated in this poll.

                      I voted NO because I GET the concept of ILLEGAL and all the ramifications that trickle thru our system.

                      To the poster who thinks an employer has NO way of knowing if an applicant is here legally or not, THINK AGAIN. Its made clear when they apply for a business license and FEDERAL  EIN. A business can be wiped out if they employee knowingly and cover the records. I wont go into corporate law here other then to say this, THAT PRACTICE Too is ILLEGAL.

                      Which reminds me, I am non affliated with Lib's, Demo's, Repukes, Left wings, RIght wings, No wings or hot wings. ALthough Hot wings are on sale here at our market place! Yum!

                      One has to wonder though, TGG.

                      You called the Democrats Demos.

                      You called the Republicans Repukes.

                      I would think if you weren't affiliated with the Democrats you would have called them something perjorative also like demoCRAPs or democRATS or DUMocrats.

                      I'm just sayin...    Wink

                       

                      I'm a Hot Wing Radical myself.


                                                                   
                                           
                                                               

                       

                       

                       

                       

                                                                                                                         

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                        One has to wonder though, TGG.

                        You called the Democrats Demos.

                        You called the Republicans Repukes.

                        I would think if you weren't affiliated with the Democrats you would have called them something perjorative also like demoCRAPs or democRATS or DUMocrats.

                        I'm just sayin...    Wink

                         

                        I'm a Hot Wing Radical myself.

                        I call the democrats in charge,  fascist m(*^f%ers.  They need deep fryin' in Nov.. all of em' including the rino fascists.  This fascist must go!

                         

                         

                        The Weiner must go.

                        He looks too much like the Eichmann.

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                          US Flag

                          NO GREEN CARD NO CASH.

                          First things First, You must win the Green Card Lottery.

                          The US Green Card Lottery Program is officially known as the Diversity Visa Lottery Program or the DV Lottery Program. Each year, this program allows 50, 000 applicants to receive a green card (and thereby permanent legal residency in the US) as part of a random lottery selection process. If you apply for the program, you might be able to secure one of these green cards.

                          So if you win the Power Ball Lottery or any lottery other than The Green Card Lottery and you are of Illegal Status, and you try to claim a prize you are not entitled too you should be detained then deported. Better than getting LEAD poisoning.

                          Cutla$$Bob

                          P.S. My question is, who, exactly, is entitled to civil rights? Civil rights are “The rights belonging to an individual by virtue of citizenship.” That doesn’t look good for our American Dream thieves, does it?

                          “Neither foreign nationals who have not yet reached our shores, nor illegal aliens who have done so unlawfully and without the Attorney General's permission, are entitled to the full panoply of rights available to citizens or even resident aliens. To the contrary, that status by definition places such individuals outside the traditional protections of the Constitution.”

                          So they Have NO Civil Rights in America!

                           "You can't handle the truth!" Nicholson.

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                            This is a stupid Question, The better Question is when are all the White People going to give us

                            Minority a chance to win. I mean be for real are the illegals the Problem are they winning the Big one

                            are they taking our money, <snip> them wait a minute that was a white person that won. Well they must

                            be illegal because they win all the time. You people are to funnyGreen laugh

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                              Funny thing. Talk about perspective. We have LEGAL citizens who have power in government, and outside government, especially outside government, that cause much more harm.

                              No.....the illegal shouldn't be able to claim the prize.

                              Neither should the shadow government be allowed to get away with killing over 3,000 innocent folks in order to fullfill their agendas.

                              If you try to make sense out of things that make no sense, it'll drive you crazy. All the big wigs are in cahoots with each other, and most people don't seem to be up in arms about this.

                              A real good analogy reflecting real life would be when my dad had a cigarette in his hand, while lecturing me to not smoke.

                              When the people who wrote the laws practice what they preach, then and only then will I take life seriously.

                               

                              And Who Knows What The Bilderberg Group is up too!

                              Cutla$$Bob

                              P.S. I voted NO

                               "You can't handle the truth!" Nicholson.

                                 
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