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Should illegal immigrants be able to claim lottery prizes?

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Should illegal immigrants be able to claim lottery prizes?

Yes [ 31 ]  [27.43%]
No [ 65 ]  [57.52%]
Does it really matter? [ 17 ]  [15.04%]
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truecritic's avatar - PirateTreasure
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Posted: July 23, 2010, 1:16 pm - IP Logged

I read over your post and mine once more. I think it is easy to confuse and be confusing on the threads sometimes. So much to read, so many

points and a lot to keep abreast of...my statement in my post concerning: go to a foreign country - play their lottery - match the winning numbers

and collect UNLESS you happen to be there illegally - again tied into a response to perdue's post.

The fact that she was almost vehement in her argument over whether aliens can play in other countries and collect, was tainted by the notion

that an alien, illegal or not, who pays for thier tickets should be able to collect their winnings.

My beef with that is IT IS A HORSE OF A DIFFERENT COLOR. I did not think we were discussing anything more than I.A.'s collecting jackpots

in the USA and whether they should be able to do so.

Visitors, tourists, non-resident aliens, international employees, resident aliens, people passing through other countries on their travels elsewhere

have a right to buy and collect winnings. Rules for some states games include language strictly pertaining to this type player.

My point about players in other countries was missing clarification and I see why you question it. In her point about playing in Canada, etc...the

reason that is legitimate is because someone traveling to Canada legally has a right to play and collect because they have their papers in order.

So, play and collect while being legally in that country. On the other hand, an I.A. is crossing the border with no intention of making themselves

a permament resident, getting a visa, etc and come here with the intention to bypass laws then they do not have a right to pocket any wins.

I think my original statement, was misinterpreted because I neglected to stress:

Come to THIS country illegally and they should not be able to collect one red cent.

whew!

Whew! Big Grin

    rdgrnr's avatar - walt
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    Posted: July 23, 2010, 1:17 pm - IP Logged

    And their it is who said this topic isn't about race.

    That's the response I would have expected from someone who has chosen to live their life as a victim.

    Don't you realize how old and worn out that has gotten already?

    Isn't it even ridiculous to you when you think about it?

    It'd be like you criticizing President Bush and me calling you a racist for it.

    That's wacked.


                                                 
                         
                                             

     

     

     

     

                                                                                                       

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      rdgrnr's avatar - walt
      Way back up in them dadgum hills, son!
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      Posted: July 23, 2010, 1:31 pm - IP Logged

      tiber..You brought up the race issue ridge was saying he voted for a Democrat..

      I need to straighten this out immediately.

      I have never, ever voted for a dem, ever.

      I vote for the person, not the party but I have never come across a dem I could vote for.

      And especially now, when the dems want the borders left wide open so they can give amnesty to all these lawbreakers and get their votes.

      Being criminals and wanting everything handed to them for free makes them a perfect fit in the democrat party.


                                                   
                           
                                               

       

       

       

       

                                                                                                         

      "The only thing necessary for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing"

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        tiggs95's avatar - Lottery-036.jpg

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        Posted: July 23, 2010, 1:38 pm - IP Logged

        I need to straighten this out immediately.

        I have never, ever voted for a dem, ever.

        I vote for the person, not the party but I have never come across a dem I could vote for.

        And especially now, when the dems want the borders left wide open so they can give amnesty to all these lawbreakers and get their votes.

        Being criminals and wanting everything handed to them for free makes them a perfect fit in the democrat party.

        tiggs was missunderstood in his post..He no way meant you voted fior a Dem ridge..Have a swig and go lay down..tiggs knows better..Big mistake in the post..tiggs was trying to defend you ole pal..

          pepper1's avatar - batman38
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          Posted: July 23, 2010, 1:40 pm - IP Logged

          If you are Illegaly in the country..the key word here would be Illegaly like not legal??? So any thing you do in the country...would be Not legal, so buying a ticket would be not legal for you to do in the first place..am I missing something???

          You're so right if you are illegaly how could it be legal for you to win money and keep it. If you are not in this country

          legal you should be deported, and the money belong here.

            rdgrnr's avatar - walt
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            Posted: July 23, 2010, 1:42 pm - IP Logged

            tiggs was missunderstood in his post..He no way meant you voted fior a Dem ridge..Have a swig and go lay down..tiggs knows better..Big mistake in the post..tiggs was trying to defend you ole pal..

            LOL, I know that tiggs!

            I just needed to make it crystal clear simply as a matter of honor.

            I had nothing to do with putting this Marxist government in power.


                                                         
                                 
                                                     

             

             

             

             

                                                                                                               

            "The only thing necessary for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing"

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              Posted: July 23, 2010, 2:16 pm - IP Logged

              Whew! Big Grin

              Thank you truecritic, we agree on the whew!

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                tiber's avatar - underground
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                Posted: July 23, 2010, 2:22 pm - IP Logged

                LOL, I know that tiggs!

                I just needed to make it crystal clear simply as a matter of honor.

                I had nothing to do with putting this Marxist government in power.

                Tea Party Time

                  pepper1's avatar - batman38
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                  Posted: July 23, 2010, 2:24 pm - IP Logged

                  I Agree!I Agree!I Agree!

                  We should make it alright for felony, and underage to collect the money if we're saying that it doesn't

                  matter that you're not legal. I don't want anybody asking me for any ID, because the government will

                  use those laws more on the people that are here legal, we will be the ones harass. I don't understand

                  what the problem is about applying and becoming legal for any race. I also believe that the creeps that

                  profit off the people here illegal should be sent over to those countries to live they're the reason we don't

                  have jobs.

                    tiggs95's avatar - Lottery-036.jpg

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                    Posted: July 23, 2010, 2:51 pm - IP Logged

                    Tea Party Time

                    tiber this is so much better then your racist remark earlier..Your learning....slow but learning none-the-less learning..

                      rdgrnr's avatar - walt
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                      Posted: July 23, 2010, 2:56 pm - IP Logged

                      tiber this is so much better then your racist remark earlier..Your learning....slow but learning none-the-less learning..

                      I'm so glad Tiber has decided to join the Tea Party.

                      Welcome Tiber!


                                                                   
                                           
                                                               

                       

                       

                       

                       

                                                                                                                         

                      "The only thing necessary for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing"

                                                                                                                  --Edmund Burke

                       

                       

                        pepper1's avatar - batman38
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                        Posted: July 23, 2010, 2:59 pm - IP Logged

                        The problem  is with us as people.  We say they have to speak english what do we see when we go to banks

                        English are Spanish. In my state of Ga they're laying off teachers everyday with years on the job, just the other

                        day they decide that they were hiring so many spanish teacher. I live in an area were they have illegal working on the

                        farms, and they're told not to speak to anyone, because they might find out. The problem is us (greed) Today

                        on my son job they let 50 illegal go  They knew that they were illegal  they could pay them less money. My

                        husband old boss was charging double paying them $8.00 and putting the rest in his pocket. All this was fine

                        with alot of American until it start to effect them. When the Illegal were being chose over them.

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                          Posted: July 23, 2010, 3:10 pm - IP Logged

                          You're so right if you are illegaly how could it be legal for you to win money and keep it. If you are not in this country

                          legal you should be deported, and the money belong here.

                          Thank you Pepper1,  It's nice to know that common sense still lives; And that those of us who have it,

                          know the difference betwen Legal and  Not legal! simple isn't it?  so we're not in outer space someplace...

                          Nonsense is a pill I can only take once a day, even my own nonsense I can't tolerate!

                          Pepper1, this does it for me, I am heading to the pick-3 and pick-4 forum for the rest of the day!  Thanks Pepper!See Ya! I'm out!

                          forget what "they" say about youWhat you say about you?...

                          Now, does it count??

                           

                           

                          *Jr$ina

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                            Posted: July 23, 2010, 3:11 pm - IP Logged

                            I'm so glad Tiber has decided to join the Tea Party.

                            Welcome Tiber!

                            Yes tiber will be a changed man by joining the Tea Party...Welcome tiber..Your here to learn..

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                              Posted: July 23, 2010, 3:30 pm - IP Logged

                              I'm so glad Tiber has decided to join the Tea Party.

                              Welcome Tiber!

                              rd..aahh rd, be carefull who you are welcoming, to the Tea party, they may think it's a pitty party!!!  see ya!!!!Shocked

                              forget what "they" say about youWhat you say about you?...

                              Now, does it count??

                               

                               

                              *Jr$ina

                                 
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