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What is a lottery system? What distinguishes a lottery system from guesses, dreams and quick picks?

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truecritic's avatar - PirateTreasure
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Posted: April 20, 2011, 8:55 pm - IP Logged

After reading pick4hawks post today, it got me to thinking about this, I remember you posted this a few pages back. While I agree with you, for the purposes of the lottery I think this is splitting hairs and is a matter of semantics. I mean, you are correct, however I highly doubt there will be a day when lottery players will discuss 'methodologies', or when software will be packaged as such. I think anything that uses data and has a means to filter and package that data is going to be known as a system, regardless of whether it has some subjective elements or not.

IMO, anything other than guesses or quickpicks will probably remain known as a system.

There are words used incorrectly everyday and I would concede that "system" will be the catchall for something not a quick pick.

    Guru101's avatar - rw6jhh
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    Posted: April 20, 2011, 9:44 pm - IP Logged

    I didn't have time to make another filter today, but I did make the one filter a tad more aggressive. Here's tonight's predictions:

    7-0-4
    2-6-5
    2-5-4
    1-4-2
    8-2-4
    0-3-0
    8-2-5
    1-8-7
    9-0-8
    4-1-8

    Gonna win.Big Smile

      Guru101's avatar - rw6jhh
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      Posted: April 20, 2011, 11:07 pm - IP Logged

      415. No hits tonight either. I'll try to have another filter for tomorrow night's drawing.

      Gonna win.Big Smile

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        Posted: April 20, 2011, 11:40 pm - IP Logged

        "i told you that you cannot run with that as an excuse "not to",  because todd could do it"

        Why would Todd fill in for me because I won't run with an excuse, even if he could?

        Can't really comment on the rest of your post because what I could read made even less sense. Now that I'm fully satisfied your reading comprehension is nonexistent because you can't understand the topic, I won't ask you again to identify the ten lines of MM numbers so you could explain what distinguishes a SP from a QP and a RNG.

        "Why would Todd fill in for me because I won't run with an excuse, even if he could?"

         somebody needs to,  because your sure not man enough to do it yourself.

        i put todd's name into the hat knowing he isn't about to involve himself in this mess,  nor should he.

        i put him in there to demonstrate there will never come a day where guys like you can dream up an excuse "good enough" to slither out the side door on a test of integrity against the things you say or claim.

        you made the lame excuse i "couldn't be trusted" with my offering being "random enough".

        i proved that was a lying excuse,  by offering to go as far as i needed to go to demonstrate my integrity,  because afterall,  you aren't that yellow  to question todd if the numbers he brings are "random enough".

        that's where my "expertise" comes in........serving up a helping of what your real integrity looks like, once you begin to spill it.

        i have no personal knowledge of how you handle yourself outside lottery post,  but in here,  you are the dictionary definition of exuse-itis.

        a real man of integrity never auctions off his integrity,  even in an anoymous place

        your current "excuse"  ---------->  you "cannot" make sense of what i wrote.

        even someone like you can understand this.......integrity and non conscience lying are an incongruent pair.   

        "I won't ask you again to identify the ten lines of MM numbers so you could explain what distinguishes a SP from a QP and a RNG".

         that would be a good move on your part,  except you inadvertantly gave me another chance to highlight your "another excuse-itis".

        i already answered it before,  but hey........your little "example" above is nothing more than another slimey move on your part to insinuate that i am "incapable" of being trusted to bring pure QP numbers to the challenge.

        you used that as another "reason" to avoid it,  and that after i demonstrated i was more than able.

        go ahead and pull the string on the back of my neck.   your ego thinks it can keep pumping out lame excuses,  and you are going to ride off into integrity land.

        not if you keep stepping onto the stage.

        maybe you can come up with some more "reasons" why you won't flesh out your claim,  that the system you mentioned will (according to you) overtake QP's over time.

        you always hoped and pushed for a quick get-lucky "proof",   where i always steered you into the ultimate test of time.

        YOU made the claim that system could outperform QP's,   and even underhandedly insinuated it was superior to QP's over time.

        that's when i called you on it,   you developed another case of stage fright.

        i hope this is just a phenomenom that happens only at LP with how you handle yourself,  otherwise you are going to have alot of alone "quiet time" on your hands in your latter years

                    "i am .........."meant to"       

        P.S.,  that RJoH  is a stand up guy.  thanks,  vision

                 until further notice,  it's  france everyday

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          Posted: April 21, 2011, 12:21 am - IP Logged

          Me:  I won't ask you again to identify the ten lines of MM numbers so you could explain what distinguishes a SP from a QP and a RNG.

          visiondude:  "i already answered it before,  but hey........your little "example" above is nothing more than another slimey move on your part to insinuate that i am "incapable" of being trusted to bring pure QP numbers to the challenge."

          Nope, I said it because you're incapable of answering a question that's directly related to the topic of this thread.

          I won't be quoting your entire text if and when I decide to respond either. It's difficult enough on the readers when I quote a line or two of yours.

          FYI http://hotword.dictionary.com/capitals/

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            Posted: April 21, 2011, 12:37 am - IP Logged

            415. No hits tonight either. I'll try to have another filter for tomorrow night's drawing.

            Don't know what filters you're using but 3 of your 10 lines had two digit matches and you did say you're starting out by trying to get box hits.

              ameriken's avatar - 33ojew2
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              Posted: April 21, 2011, 12:54 am - IP Logged

              Me:  I won't ask you again to identify the ten lines of MM numbers so you could explain what distinguishes a SP from a QP and a RNG.

              visiondude:  "i already answered it before,  but hey........your little "example" above is nothing more than another slimey move on your part to insinuate that i am "incapable" of being trusted to bring pure QP numbers to the challenge."

              Nope, I said it because you're incapable of answering a question that's directly related to the topic of this thread.

              I won't be quoting your entire text if and when I decide to respond either. It's difficult enough on the readers when I quote a line or two of yours.

              FYI http://hotword.dictionary.com/capitals/

              "I won't be quoting your entire text if and when I decide to respond either. It's difficult enough on the readers when I quote a line or two of yours."

              You are too kind, Stack Wink

              Give someone a fish and feed them for a day. Teach them to use the internet and they won't bother you for weeks. 

                Guru101's avatar - rw6jhh
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                Posted: April 21, 2011, 12:47 pm - IP Logged

                Alright. I have added another filter. I ran the program with just that filter and generated 10 lines for today's midday drawing. Unfortunately, I was 5 minutes late when I went to post them on the prediction board lol. Here they are anyway:

                5-4-8
                1-6-3
                3-7-1
                4-3-7
                4-4-7
                5-3-3
                3-6-2
                5-9-6
                8-9-0
                8-6-2

                Gonna win.Big Smile

                  ameriken's avatar - 33ojew2
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                  Posted: April 21, 2011, 12:48 pm - IP Logged

                  Good luck Guru

                  Give someone a fish and feed them for a day. Teach them to use the internet and they won't bother you for weeks. 

                    Guru101's avatar - rw6jhh
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                    Posted: April 21, 2011, 1:38 pm - IP Logged

                    145 on the midday. No hit. That's alright. This is just the beginning.

                    Gonna win.Big Smile

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                      Posted: April 21, 2011, 3:41 pm - IP Logged

                      Me:  I won't ask you again to identify the ten lines of MM numbers so you could explain what distinguishes a SP from a QP and a RNG.

                      visiondude:  "i already answered it before,  but hey........your little "example" above is nothing more than another slimey move on your part to insinuate that i am "incapable" of being trusted to bring pure QP numbers to the challenge."

                      Nope, I said it because you're incapable of answering a question that's directly related to the topic of this thread.

                      I won't be quoting your entire text if and when I decide to respond either. It's difficult enough on the readers when I quote a line or two of yours.

                      FYI http://hotword.dictionary.com/capitals/

                      despite my purposeful lack of capitalization (et al),   both the "readers" and you can understand perfectly this is but another lame excuse on your part.

                      Your just a trite bit miffed i was able to call you on your little underhanded "Number Verification Comparison".

                      The notation that neither of the combo's had "QP" next to it had no bearing on your "inability" to participate in a fair mano a mano.   

                      That was pathetic

                      You have a PM function.  if your too yellow  to put up,  PM someone else to do it.

                      Since you are so industrious with your excuseology,  maybe you can create a new account, and under a new username you could appear "brave",  and then do it.

                      Yeah,  "no one" can understand my ability to point out you can't back anything up.   ROFL

                      I am still here Stack,  waiting for you to serve something up long term. <------------

                      Your lottery "claim" is like the issing birth certificate of lottery post

                      Noticed how i capitailized this time,  except the first sentence?   What excuse do you have for us now?

                                  "i am .........."meant to"       

                      P.S.,  that RJoH  is a stand up guy.  thanks,  vision

                               until further notice,  it's  france everyday

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                        Posted: April 21, 2011, 3:45 pm - IP Logged

                        145 on the midday. No hit. That's alright. This is just the beginning.

                        GuRu,  at least you have the guts to throw up your system / numbers for scrutiny in the midst of all this drivel.

                        i applaud you Hurray! for that

                        VISION

                                    "i am .........."meant to"       

                        P.S.,  that RJoH  is a stand up guy.  thanks,  vision

                                 until further notice,  it's  france everyday

                          ameriken's avatar - 33ojew2
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                          I thought about starting a new thread, but then decided that my question still perhaps falls under this thread. How do you determine if the system or methodology that you are using is successful as opposed to buying an equivelant amount of QP's or randomly generated numbers? Do you base it on number of hits, on $$ returned, or some other method? How do you know if you're doing worse than, equal to, or better than what you would do if you were just playing random numbers or quick picks? How long of a period of time (or how many draws) would you consider to be a fair enough test?

                          I'm still new and trying to figure this out, and any input is appreciated.

                          Give someone a fish and feed them for a day. Teach them to use the internet and they won't bother you for weeks. 

                            Guru101's avatar - rw6jhh
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                            Posted: April 21, 2011, 4:20 pm - IP Logged

                            Ok. 10 lines for Kentucky's Pick 3 evening drawing tonight. Once again, just the second filter applied:

                            6-4-7
                            2-4-8
                            8-7-5
                            3-6-3
                            6-8-0
                            2-7-3
                            8-8-7
                            1-5-8
                            8-2-1
                            0-8-5

                            Gonna win.Big Smile

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                              Posted: April 21, 2011, 4:27 pm - IP Logged

                              I thought about starting a new thread, but then decided that my question still perhaps falls under this thread. How do you determine if the system or methodology that you are using is successful as opposed to buying an equivelant amount of QP's or randomly generated numbers? Do you base it on number of hits, on $$ returned, or some other method? How do you know if you're doing worse than, equal to, or better than what you would do if you were just playing random numbers or quick picks? How long of a period of time (or how many draws) would you consider to be a fair enough test?

                              I'm still new and trying to figure this out, and any input is appreciated.

                              there are only 2 factors in determining efficientcy,  and that's a side by side comparison for profit over time.

                              how much time?    that's up for debate,   but at least enough time to be able to legitimately say it was enough time.

                              probably at least a month in a daily based game.

                              profit is king on the qualification scale,  because no one here is expending energy toward "loss".

                              even "less loss" to be honest.

                                          "i am .........."meant to"       

                              P.S.,  that RJoH  is a stand up guy.  thanks,  vision

                                       until further notice,  it's  france everyday

                                 
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