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What is a lottery system? What distinguishes a lottery system from guesses, dreams and quick picks?

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Joe, I'm not referring to delusional in a joking manner. Stack nailed it when he said "and now you're using your lies to claim a mythical superiority".

I don't want to harp on this, it was just something that came to mind today. And I could be wrong about my assertion as well. However, I don't know which is worse about this: being right, or being wrong.

amerikan:  I'm determined to have fun whether it involves trying to sift out some learning from what people are posting - and I have and will continue to do it as long as this interminable thread I started staggers onward through the fog, or just enjoying what happens in between times with people saying what's on their minds about less-than-helpful otherwise matters.

The two posters here I couldn't manage that with I blocked, so maybe I'm under-reacting to their offensiveness.  If so, I'm pleased to have managed it.

As for the delusions, I was only half-joking.  The stuff in my head the rest of humanity would consider delusion isn't.  They think it is because of their stilted, stodgy, inside-the-box thinking habits combined with their lack of imagination.

But I do see a lot of delusion going on by other people and I pretend to know I have some too so's to be able to comment on theirs without coming across as thinking I'm immune.  Which I mostly am, though it would require more insight than most people are capable of to recognize it.

I like the two guys who hijacked this thread okay, but I like them best blocked so I only see what people say back at them.

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    Josephus,

    I see a new thread coming, "How many computer programmers play the lottery?" Or "How many mathematicians can program and play the lottery?"

    Delusions? I've had a few. I'm quite abnormal for a normal person. But there are a couple in this thread that beat me hands down. At least one played lottery numbers he saw in a piece of toast as a QP. Probably tried to cash the toast too. 

    My neighbors scare me. They are stealing all the stuff I toss in the trash. I keep a window open keep an eye on what they are doing. Sometimes they have company and I know they are plotting a takeover of the neighborhood. It's sixth sense.

    gary:  I sympathize about the neighbors.  People sneak around through the woods here at night and move my osterich eggs around trying to make me suspicious enough to call the sheriff because they'd like him to think I'm paranoid.

    We sure as hell need some new threads, even though RL's got some working.  I've been thinking about something along the lines of "The the math side of numerology", or "Astrophysics, astrology and Benford's Law".  The Mystical Forum's getting all the business and Math's sitting over here having to dodge torpedoes from the periscopes and copy/paste departments.

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      Nice seeing someone familiar with Jaspers.  Maybe my favorite philosopher throughout the centuries.

      As for delusions, there are plenty to go around.  We all have our fair share and those of us particip hmm parcipitating hell is that the real word for people gathered up doing the same thing?

      Anyway those of us who've posted here on this thread have spread our delusions across the surface like butter on toast.  Nobody who paid his money hoping to see delusions is going to complain on his way out that there weren't enough, nor that the ones provided weren't both persistent and dramatic.

      I believe it completely.  My mind's made up on it. 

      On the other hand, I'm jealous of you programmers and the fact you're hiding how to win the lotteries from me and sharing it with one another, ganging up on me.  I'd type more but I've got this itch I have to scratch.  Lice, ticks, fleas or something I guess.  No matter how much I spray myself down with DDT I can't get rid of them

      "As for delusions, there are plenty to go around."

      The only delusion on this thread is the insistence by VD that someone said "their SPs would beat VD's QPs". That delusion is solely in VD's mind based on VD's personal delusional assumptions and/or conclusions.

      Ken is comparing his personal picks with his QPs and I wouldn't be surprised if VD claims Ken's QPs as his own and demands to be paid the value of the QPs.

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        Original Post by Stack47
         
        VD: "there was no discrepancy about the "inability" to handle the english language (on my part) when you made the claim that you knew you could turn $100,000 into $35,000,000."

        Nobody can be this stupid! 

        Are you sure?  THAT might be your first "untruth!" ROFL

        Nobody has to be a mathematician to join in the discussion, but they should know how to add, subtract, multiply and divide.

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          Josephus,

          I see a new thread coming, "How many computer programmers play the lottery?" Or "How many mathematicians can program and play the lottery?"

          Delusions? I've had a few. I'm quite abnormal for a normal person. But there are a couple in this thread that beat me hands down. At least one played lottery numbers he saw in a piece of toast as a QP. Probably tried to cash the toast too. 

          My neighbors scare me. They are stealing all the stuff I toss in the trash. I keep a window open keep an eye on what they are doing. Sometimes they have company and I know they are plotting a takeover of the neighborhood. It's sixth sense.

          I see a new thread coming, "How many computer programmers play the lottery?" Or "How many mathematicians can program and play the lottery?"

          Computer programmers and mathematicians are professionals, while many LP members do a little of what both do as lottery players, I doubt if most would classify themselves as either.

           * you don't need to buy more tickets, just buy a winning ticket * 
             
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            I see a new thread coming, "How many computer programmers play the lottery?" Or "How many mathematicians can program and play the lottery?"

            Computer programmers and mathematicians are professionals, while many LP members do a little of what both do as lottery players, I doubt if most would classify themselves as either.

            An acquaintance of mine with a PHD in math who happens to also be a savant drives a taxicab for a living in Tucson.  I've tried to persuade him to get interested in the lotteries and if he did maybe he'd be a professional lottery player.  But as it stands, you're right.  He's a professional taxi driver.

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              Seems to me the question has been answered sufficiently to satisfy my reasons for asking.  There's clearly no consensus on what a system is, but evidently each individual has a firm definition of the concept as it applies to his/her efforts to anticipate future lottery draws, which actually narrows it down considerably while spreading it out over a lot of possible areas of human thought.

              A system might involve statistics, internal math, remembering license tag numbers and buying tickets based on them, lucid dreaming of numbers, astrology such as libra dave posts on the mystical forum, sums, roots, splits, Lottery Bibles, anything that anyone chooses to use for the purpose of selecting a group of numbers targeting a future lottery draw result.

              A lot of more narrowly defined definitions have expressed and argued for or against, but the number of lottery enthusiasts involved in the discussions on the thread is miniscule compared to the number of people posting 'systems', both in the Lottery Systems Forum, and in other forums including Mystical.  Even the users of the mystical forum believe they are using systems to arrive at numbers they hope will hit.

              Meanwhile, no poster on this thread has claimed to be in possession of any math-related 'system' capable of producing results clearly more likely to more consistently hit tonight or any other time than those posted by libra in his astrology thread.  Many believe they can, including me. 

              But it hasn't been put to the test in any way allowing verification.

              My view is that if such a system exists, or is developed sometime in the future it will not possess ownership of the phrase 'lottery system' any more than it does now.

              Something that allows people to predict numbers is a lottery system.

              Something that allows people to predict numbers successfully is a different creature of a species all its own.

              In a vast sense anything you can throw a counter on in reverse to fowardly pick digits could be called a lottery  system. 

              If you can throw a counter upon subjective feelings then it might be considered a system.

              One may use anything --stats, binary, or whatever but reverse grouping for a purpose is necessary.

              One must see a pattern, sequence, not a dream normally.

              Good results to me means money in my pocket at the end of the week.

              Good luck

              HAWK

              *We may see something that isn’t there because of what we expect to see

              Or conversely, we may not see something because we don’t expect to see it.*

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                Nice seeing someone familiar with Jaspers.  Maybe my favorite philosopher throughout the centuries.

                As for delusions, there are plenty to go around.  We all have our fair share and those of us particip hmm parcipitating hell is that the real word for people gathered up doing the same thing?

                Anyway those of us who've posted here on this thread have spread our delusions across the surface like butter on toast.  Nobody who paid his money hoping to see delusions is going to complain on his way out that there weren't enough, nor that the ones provided weren't both persistent and dramatic.

                I believe it completely.  My mind's made up on it. 

                On the other hand, I'm jealous of you programmers and the fact you're hiding how to win the lotteries from me and sharing it with one another, ganging up on me.  I'd type more but I've got this itch I have to scratch.  Lice, ticks, fleas or something I guess.  No matter how much I spray myself down with DDT I can't get rid of them

                I've been running the post you made regarding delusions around in the back of my mind most of the afternoon weighing the pros and cons of delusions.  I understand why you posted what you did and what you intended to communicate insofar as how delusions apply to the behavior of the people who've posted on this thread.

                Eventually I decided delusions aren't what bothers you in what's happened here.  The thread is about what defines a lottery system.  If someone had posted an opinion so outrageous as to be universally agreed as delusional it wouldn't have bothered anyone, though some probably would have made snide, cutting remarks.

                I think what bothers you is probably the inherently rude interruption, intrusion and deliberate provocation obviously intended to disrupt any continuity within the thread.  That, and the implied lack of respect that always travels like a cloud with people who preach and butt into the attempts by a group of people trying to discuss something they disagree with.  And the parenthetical [my viewpoint is more valid than all of your viewpoints and you should abandon your viewpoint to adopt mine].

                There's nothing particularly wrong with delusions per se.  If a person's happy with them there's no reason anyone else needs to be concerned about them.  A lot of them seem to be adopted voluntarily and with enthusiasm in a lot of areas of public opinion and discussion.

                There was nothing anywhere on this thread intended to discuss the personal definitions of LP members and users of the Math Forum about lottery systems that in any way invited, provoked, caused, or could excuse the machine-gun repitition of attack and provacation that came out of seemingly nowhere and for no apparent reason.

                Whatever else it might be, math is just math when it comes to finding reasons to spill poison all over the landscape.  Same is true for lotteries.  Just entertainment, just hobbies for people who like playing them, talking about them, studying them, whatever gives them enjoyment.

                I happen to believe lottery systems of one sort or another can eventually be devised to predict future lottery draws.  If I'm wrong and it's a delusion it's one I voluntarily accept and one that takes nothing away from anyone who has posted on this thread. 

                If someone else believes lottery systems are doomed to fail they might be right and nobody including me is any worse for the wear.  If their thinking so is a delusion [and it might be] it's no reason for me to concern myself with it.

                But I do hope the rudeness will find some other forum than this one to declare itself.  Thus far that seems to be happening on the other threads on the active math forum right now.  Maybe it's time to let this one die.

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                  Good post Joe, you probably nailed it.

                  Give someone a fish and feed them for a day. Teach them to use the internet and they won't bother you for weeks. 

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                    "As for delusions, there are plenty to go around."

                    The only delusion on this thread is the insistence by VD that someone said "their SPs would beat VD's QPs". That delusion is solely in VD's mind based on VD's personal delusional assumptions and/or conclusions.

                    Ken is comparing his personal picks with his QPs and I wouldn't be surprised if VD claims Ken's QPs as his own and demands to be paid the value of the QPs.

                    well,  chalk that up to another purposeful lie and misrepresentation of what i have stated in here.

                    once again,  "lying" is an acceptable part of what you guys do,  and you high five each other when you do it.

                    that's some "strength of position" you guys have goin for ya Thumbs Up

                    i never said anybody ever stated they could beat "my QP's vs their SP's".   that's a straight up lie.

                    besides,  it's an impossibility that anyone ever has said that in this thread,  because when pushed came to shove,  all the ones that raised their "concerns" fled out the exit door just as soon as i got my highlighter out.

                    that's the real truth of what's goin in in here, no one would anyway.

                    especially you stack,  given you have what you think is the largest ego among the "concerned crowd"

                    what i have always said .....is that when guys like you think you can extract a better result from personal effort,  that statement is completely untrue.

                    and then.....invited key people as the displayed their arrogant false bravado to "prove it",  to demonstrate they are blowing nothing but hot air.

                    are you implying i have QP's with "special powers"?    no wonder the schicken factor is so high. Green laughGreen laughGreen laugh

                    they are just plain old QP's spit out by a random generator of your choice.

                    this is just another stellar example of the "innocent" slime factor from you stack.

                    you have to lie about someone ----->  you don't have anything to stand behind

                                "i am .........."meant to"       

                    P.S.,  that RJoH  is a stand up guy.  thanks,  vision

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                      VD: "call it what you will,  but you work to sell things as "factual",  that aren't remotely factual."

                      Those figures never were meant to be factual because it was data for a Monte Carlo simulation.

                      VD: "there was no discrepancy about the "inability" to handle the english language (on my part) when you made the claim that you knew you could turn $100,000 into $35,000,000."

                      Nobody can be this stupid!

                      Any state lottery could use a pick-3 simulation to estimate how much profit they should expect to make for a year based on average daily wagers. The figure I used, "$100,000" represents an average daily wager for 365 drawings. The simulation would show a house edge of 50% so the house keeps half of the total wagers and their expected profit should be $18,250,000. Their expected payout should be $18,250,000 too. Some states average over $1 million in daily wagers so their expected profit and expected payoffs would be 10 times higher.

                      When I said "PROBABLY AT LEAST 70% of pick-3 wagers are SPs", it was a loose educated guess based on my knowledge of pick-3 players. But since the "70%" was only meant to show how much of the total playoff the SPs players get, if you believe only 1% of pick-3 wagers are SPs that figure could be used too. It's called "fourth grade" math.

                      Why did you lie and say "you made the claim that you knew you could turn $100,000 into $35,000,000"?

                      Without making lies about what me or any of the other members said on this thread, you have no argument.

                      VD: "look,  it's obvious none of you are ever going to step up to the stage short of your whining,  so step aside,  and let lotterybraker and i debate the issue."

                      We all know you're intellectually incompetent, your understanding of basic math is nonexistent, added nothing to this discussion about better ideas to play lottery games, and now you're using your lies to claim a mythical superiority. Are the your lies meant to get some type of bizarre attention?

                      "Those figures never were meant to be factual because it was data for a Monte Carlo simulation".

                       exactly. 

                      and just like i pointed out,  you were schicken with doing a simulation with me but when it came time to do a simulation that you wanted to do with jimmy,  you whined he wouldn't get back to you on it.

                      you and your ever evolving  "innocent facts"

                      what was even more apparent about you (after i highlighted it),  is that after you insinuated the projected result as "factual", that even you wouldn't flesh it out.

                      now look at the michael jackson semantics dance with the feighned innocent "probably at least",  and "loose educated guess".

                      "loose",  yes.    as in slip knot bathed in vaseline houdini "loose".

                      "educated",  no.    not in the vein of simulating something based in integrity.

                      not to worry though, stack.

                      seems there are alot of people high fiving you in your michael jackson throw in reverse moves.

                      you are a small fish in a big pond.  that's all.

                      the only reason i even bother with you is to establish i won't be muscled into silence just because "you guys" don't like my common sense.

                      be that as it may,  sometimes continuing to highlight who you are not vs what you claim is nothing more than a necessary part of what i do,  so that i can insure equal ground

                                  "i am .........."meant to"       

                      P.S.,  that RJoH  is a stand up guy.  thanks,  vision

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                        OFF TOPIC: but perhaps this will explain some of the posts in here. Anyone who has followed this thread from around page 3 will know what I mean. I don't share this jokingly, but rather seriously.

                        (Emphasis my own.)

                        from: delusional dot com

                        Delusional Disorder Definition
                         
                        Delusional disorders are a relatively common mental illness that frequently goes unreported by patients. The severity of the condition is a wide range, with some patients experiencing only mild effects of the delusional disorders and others that are so severe that they extremely limit how a person is able to function in the world. Delusional disorders are split into six specific groupings: erotomanic, jealousy, grandiose, somatic, persecution, and mixed types. All of these subtypes are quite similar in nature, but they are represented in society in different ways. To define delusional thinking, the criteria developed by Karl Jasper in 1917 is commonly used. His definition stated that the specific delusion had to be believed completely and that no argument or proof of its falsity would sway a patient's mind. Also, the delusion must be false in nature or impossible.

                        The persecution type of delusional disorder is the most common variety of the condition. A person with this problem will have a paranoid delusional definition that they are being unjustly pursued or persecuted by a specific force. The paranoid delusional definition does not require that the patient be able to name the source of the persecution and many cases involve only the feeling of being persecuted. However, in other cases, the patient may feel as though they are being followed by governmental organizations or that family members are trying to harm them. The paranoid delusional definition is also involved in the jealousy type of delusions. In this subtype, a patient feels as though his sexual partner is committing sexual acts with another person. In some cases, the patient will assemble false evidence to support the theory and confront the partner. This evidence is often wildly inaccurate and only serves the delusional person's purpose.

                        One example of the somatic subtype delusional disorder is known as delusional parasitosis. In this specific example, a patient feels that they are infected with parasites. They will often claim that they can feel the parasites under the skin. As the delusion can be very strong, the problem will often be referred to a dermatologist or entomologist for study as the person is sure of the problem. The erotomania subtype occurs when a patient is convinced that a person is in love with the patient. Often, this love will be thought to have been communicated through body language, including special looks or signals, or through supernatural abilities, such as telepathy. In most cases, the patient finds that it is someone famous that is trying to communicate with them. The grandiose subtype occurs when a person has true delusions of grandeur, believing that they are somehow more powerful than ordinary people. Mixed delusions are when a person experiences more than one type of delusion at the same time.

                        To define delusional thinking in a specific patient, a local psychiatrist should be consulted to make a thorough examination before diagnosing the problem. The symptoms expressed by a delusional disorder can also be part of a much more serious problem, such as bipolar disorder or schizophrenia. The correct treatment practice of curing delusional disorders will depend on a proper diagnosis of the problem.

                        just remember before you assign something to someone they don't deserve,  that you (and all the others) are CHASING something that no one can even create a hint of success at,  and that given the amount of time the lottery has been around,  and the "brilliant minds" in here that pursue it with everything they have.

                        not even in the pick 3

                        if you can't answer the "who" of who is delusional in that equation,  then...

                        delusion is best defined in this arena as expending extreme amounts of efforts,  and getting the same nothing in return, and still telling yourself "you can"

                        me.....i only play 1QP in a jackpot game,  so i know you couldn't possibly be infering to me Wink

                                    "i am .........."meant to"       

                        P.S.,  that RJoH  is a stand up guy.  thanks,  vision

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                          Visiondude..just read over your QUESTIONS of concern..let me answer those for you and I will be a Southern Gentleman about it for sure..I only get ugly or rude when I KNOW FOR A FACT I AM RIGHT..but then I just usually will drop the conversation because no matter how hard you try to explain something to someone..they still cant get it....

                           

                          1. Yes you are right..I live in Mississippi and we do not have a lottery and the past 20 plus years all I have done is RESEARCH ..thats all..and I have notebooks after notebooks after notebooks after notebooks full of research to back that up..and that is just from the past 12 or 13 years I guess..see...ONCE I discovered that code I use..that was  the biggie...I rounded up all of my NON IMPORTANT RESEARCH  and threw it away in 2 big huge black garbage bags because I knew I wouldnt need it anymore...TRUE..no monetary gain from a lottery state except 5 out of 6 on Floridas lotto in 1990 maybe 1991..3300.00 that Saturday nite....lets talk about that monetary gain a little more...since I have joined LP ,I have BEEN more than GIVING, and more than Helpful with everyone here at this site..Now..one more POINT...I am disabled because I took my son hunting 18 years ago and he shot me with a shotgun and almost killed my a$$, which really translates into BEING VERY POOR..hahaha..or I would have my own website already...maybe I am being taken to the cleaners but most places I have talked to here in Mississippi has told me it would cost me anywhere from 10k to 15 k for a website that I would need..want to loan me the money...hahahaha

                           

                          2.  Possess the ability...hummm..lets see..have you checked the pic 3 forum lately..there are enough STATE SPECIFIC FIELDS in there to keep you busy for a little while..or you can look at this again..

                          4/18/201178583884-4DE Midday 1:25PM Pick 31$0.25$0.25N0-0-00-0-0$225.00
                          4/18/201178584811-31NJ Midday 12:40PM Pick 31$0.25$0.25N1-8-51-8-5$225.00
                          4/18/201178585267-19TX Midday 1:00PM Pick 31$0.50$0.50Y1-2-32-1-3$75.00
                          4/17/201178525017-77NC 11:07PM Pick 41$0.25$0.25Y2-7-7-87-8-2-7$187.50
                          4/16/201178456461-12MI 6:53PM Pick 41$0.25$0.25Y0-0-5-10-1-0-5$187.50
                          4/16/201178412316-37NY Midday 12:10PM Pick 31$0.25$0.25N1-9-81-9-8$225.00
                          4/15/201178373638-12MI 6:53PM Pick 41$0.25$0.25Y0-4-6-86-4-8-0$93.75
                          4/13/201178243235-31TX Midday 1:00PM Pick 31$0.50$0.50Y3-5-65-6-3$75.00
                          4/12/201178181660-75KY Midday 1:10PM Pick 31$0.25$0.25Y2-9-92-9-9$75.00
                          4/12/201178196687-4DE 7:00PM Pick 41$0.25$0.25Y1-1-3-21-3-2-1$187.50
                          4/11/201178133138-1CA Midday 4:00PM Pick 31$0.25$0.25N0-5-80-5-8$225.00
                          4/11/201178133843-27IL Midday 1:25PM Pick 41$0.25$0.25Y7-5-3-35-3-3-7$187.50
                          4/11/201178133183-37NJ Midday 12:40PM Pick 41$0.25$0.25Y8-8-5-98-5-8-9$187.50
                          4/6/201177834078-12NC 11:07PM Pick 31$0.50$0.50Y0-4-55-0-4$75.00
                          4/6/201177795721-79LA 10:25PM Pick 41$0.25$0.25Y6-6-1-55-6-1-6$187.50

                           

                          4/5/201177740118-50OH 7:14PM Pick 41$0.25$0.25Y0-0-9-30-9-3-0$187.50
                          4/5/201177740040-6FL 7:30PM Pick 31$0.25$0.25N1-4-91-4-9$225.00

                           

                          4/5/201177727834-5MI Midday 12:24PM Pick 41$0.25$0.25Y1-1-7-87-8-1-1$187.50
                          4/4/201177677732-58VT 6:40PM Pick 31$0.25$0.25Y2-2-72-2-7$75.00
                          4/4/201177677732-36NH 6:40PM Pick 31$0.25$0.25Y2-2-72-2-7$75.00
                          4/4/201177686399-22FL 7:30PM Pick 41$0.25$0.25Y5-5-5-88-5-5-5$562.50
                          4/3/201177591224-24NC Midday 2:45PM Pick 41$0.25$0.25Y1-1-2-41-2-1-4$187.50
                          4/1/201177461740-38GA 10:45PM Pick 41$0.25$0.25Y9-9-2-69-6-

                          now there are quite a few pic 4's in there because I designed a new field for pic 4 which works pretty good..., it started out as research on all states but I was able to widdle it down to state specific..99% of those pic 4's were state specific, not using all states..that maybe a little high..could be around 95 % but either way..I will say the biggest majority was state specific..

                           

                          3. No I dont throw out Hundreds of combos and say they are for all-states..do you ever go to the pic 3 forum..if you do or have...that question right there would not have even been asked..

                          4. Now..why did I even choose the Lottery to begin with not even living in a lottery state..well..let me tell you the samething I told my fellow LP members a long time ago..and this is going to sound KOOKY AND SPOOKY..One afternoon I was working with Floridas numbers and all of a sudden I heard a voice that was just as plain as if I was sitting there talking to you..and it said Terry , you can solve this..and I have never looked back and it has driven me to where I am not..believe it or not..makes no difference to me...

                          5. NO, I am not ONE STATE, what I can do, I can do for any state or any country..of course pic 3 is the easiest..it has less combos to worry about

                           

                          6. THAT MONETARY GAIN part is just about to change..take my word for it..that new repeating field I designed for pic 3 will help anyone who plays pic 3 in any state, and I WILL BET YOU it will be better than anything you or anyone else could find on the internet ANYWHERE...

                           

                          7. Now..let me ask you a question...what do you think a REPEATING FIELD OF 28 numbers for 60 days would be worth if you were to get anywhere from 18-25 hits out of 28 combos..DONT WORRY MY FELLOW LP MEMBERS...I am not that greedy and will not be charging an arm and a leg

                           

                          8. Now..if you can do better than that..I will make you a deal...I will buy all my combos from you to play..deal?...hahahaha

                          9. AND THIS IS IMPORTANT..I can Honestly SWEAR ON MY SOUL..that I have taken nothing from any LP MEMBER  at this site since I have been a member..I havent needed to for onething, and second, my whole entire system is based on very larger numerical fields..I do need to clarify onething though...SINCE Joining LP, Todds MASSIVE database shed a little more light on what random was doing all over the place..not just in Louisiana, which I use to have every combo from the first drawing til I joined LP and stopped writing them down..because Louisiana was my research field..

                           

                          Good Luck to you on your research and Hopefully you will hit a jackpot soon ..now wouldnt that be sweet....!!!!!1

                          thanks for your reply,  and again,  your civility.

                          seems the pretenders are loosing their minds,  and are now "consulting" philosophers in order to soothe their wounded conscience.

                          ain't my fault

                          anyway,  soon as i get the chance, i will pour over your initial offering, and we will go from there.

                          you see....i can agree to disagree when i am dealing with a gentleman.

                          when they throw lying / whining tantrums into the mix,  just because "they" don't like a polar opposite opinion,  then i have to be "defensive visiondude"

                          i don't wanna,  but it becomes necessito sometimes 

                          so i will...

                                      "i am .........."meant to"       

                          P.S.,  that RJoH  is a stand up guy.  thanks,  vision

                                   until further notice,  it's  france everyday

                            RL-RANDOMLOGIC's avatar - usafce

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                            Posted: April 28, 2011, 4:42 am - IP Logged

                            I've been running the post you made regarding delusions around in the back of my mind most of the afternoon weighing the pros and cons of delusions.  I understand why you posted what you did and what you intended to communicate insofar as how delusions apply to the behavior of the people who've posted on this thread.

                            Eventually I decided delusions aren't what bothers you in what's happened here.  The thread is about what defines a lottery system.  If someone had posted an opinion so outrageous as to be universally agreed as delusional it wouldn't have bothered anyone, though some probably would have made snide, cutting remarks.

                            I think what bothers you is probably the inherently rude interruption, intrusion and deliberate provocation obviously intended to disrupt any continuity within the thread.  That, and the implied lack of respect that always travels like a cloud with people who preach and butt into the attempts by a group of people trying to discuss something they disagree with.  And the parenthetical [my viewpoint is more valid than all of your viewpoints and you should abandon your viewpoint to adopt mine].

                            There's nothing particularly wrong with delusions per se.  If a person's happy with them there's no reason anyone else needs to be concerned about them.  A lot of them seem to be adopted voluntarily and with enthusiasm in a lot of areas of public opinion and discussion.

                            There was nothing anywhere on this thread intended to discuss the personal definitions of LP members and users of the Math Forum about lottery systems that in any way invited, provoked, caused, or could excuse the machine-gun repitition of attack and provacation that came out of seemingly nowhere and for no apparent reason.

                            Whatever else it might be, math is just math when it comes to finding reasons to spill poison all over the landscape.  Same is true for lotteries.  Just entertainment, just hobbies for people who like playing them, talking about them, studying them, whatever gives them enjoyment.

                            I happen to believe lottery systems of one sort or another can eventually be devised to predict future lottery draws.  If I'm wrong and it's a delusion it's one I voluntarily accept and one that takes nothing away from anyone who has posted on this thread. 

                            If someone else believes lottery systems are doomed to fail they might be right and nobody including me is any worse for the wear.  If their thinking so is a delusion [and it might be] it's no reason for me to concern myself with it.

                            But I do hope the rudeness will find some other forum than this one to declare itself.  Thus far that seems to be happening on the other threads on the active math forum right now.  Maybe it's time to let this one die.

                            Josephus

                            Nice Post.

                            I still think a big red [ERASE] button would be all that was needed to fix the problem.  Maybe it could be tied

                            to a counter and once, lets say that 5 members pressed it the erase would take place or a automatic thread

                            would be created and the content moved to it.  Another idea would be have a [off topic] button and once

                            it was pressed by so many members then the guilty person would be blocked from futher posting on the thread

                            for so many days.  A second offence would block the person from making any more post to that thread. 

                             

                            PS.  I would also like to add that Stack is not the problem.  Ignore, ignore, ignore, you can argue with a peice

                                   of wood but don't expect it to comprehend.

                            RL

                              lotterybraker's avatar - pyramid
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                              Posted: April 28, 2011, 10:37 am - IP Logged

                              well..I have noticed that each group , either for or against, quick pics or System pics will climb to the highest mountain top and shout as loud as they can that they are right..which is PERFECTLY FIND..that is what makes each person unique, different in their beliefs...we as human beings are taught to be tolerent of other peoples opinions, even if we believe them or not..we can try to persuade to them our side, sometimes  that doesnt work..but we still give it a shot ..its in our nature I believe..

                              NOW FOR ME PERSONALLY..I have done research on RANDOM for over 20 years and I know I can do better than quick pics myself, but whos to say that  A PERSON SOMEWHERE in a particuliar state happens to do very well just by purchasing QP'S..

                              The difference is when you purchase a QP as you all know the combo selected is based on NOTHING..it is just a PURE RANDOM COMBO picked by a computer whereas, a SYSTEM PLAYER has done some research AND IS LOOKING FOR SOMETHING that is missing..something missing that was found by doing some research with their system..that is the CRUX of the entire argument of this thread...

                              I want to SHARE A 100% FACT with all of you...if you study random long enough...you will discover a MATHEMATICAL FALSE STATEMENT...Mathematicians will tell you that ANY NIGHT ALL 1000 COMBINATIONS ARE IN PLAY AND ANY ONE OF THEM CAN COME OUT..that statement right there is only 50% true...and that is a FACT..not a assumption..

                              I am not a stats person..some people here at LP are real good with stats..I believe I read on here the other day that Paurths in his research said that each DIGIT should show on average of every 3.3 draws, well if that stat is accurate, and I am sure is pretty dang close then how can every combo be in play when it gets to 3.3 draws and the digit 4 is missing..if the statistcal average runs its course then only..AND I MEAN ONLY  a combo that has 4 in it will WIN..

                              Why do you think every single SCIENTIST in the history of MANKIND has studied the past for...it will give them the best idea of whats going to happen in the future..not to mention LAWYERS, Judges..they all have studied past cases from the past to gain insight on a case they are working on now...HISTORY REPEATS ITSELF..that is EXACTLY WHY people study the past to predict the future..and the LOTTERY IS NO EXCEPTION!!!!1

                              Now this is my Opinion and it is your prerogative to believe it or not..THE KEY TO THE FUTURE IS THROUGH THE PAST..that is where I went 20 years ago and started my research and everything has grown from there..so..that is what I will continue to use..good luck to all of you today!!!!1

                              "Attention all Mathematicians: Check your degree at the door because when it comes to whole numbers you are the Amateur"

                                 
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