United States Member #124493 March 14, 2012 7023 Posts Offline

Posted: July 27, 2013, 4:15 am - IP Logged

Quote: Originally posted by Greenfox on July 27, 2013

At times my dummyhead doesn't think right and it costs me. Such as this. I had the charts fixed to highlight when the new numbers are put in so that I could look for where they may or may not show. But just for the pick 3. It just took me till now to realize I needed one for the four draw also. I actually missed a $5200 win the other night with the 4 draw. I had them in a straight pick and again straight in an any pick. A new cashier was on her first time working and scanned both sets of my tickets at the same time. Just luck, (my luck) I guess, the pick 4 was in behind my 3 picks, and it didn't pick them up. All I got was my pick 3 tickets. Time I got home and realized what happened, the cut off time had passed. I don't blame her for anything though. It was my fault for not making sure. She did the same thing on the day draw that day and I caught it and figured she got both that time, so it really was my fault for not double checking.

Anyway, tomorrows another day and back to where I was.

This is the bottom sections of the chart for the 23rd eve game here. We had 257 and 8355. Like on all the others, it's the top section under Q - V rows 34 - 37 and again in Q - V rows 54 -57 where they want to pop up. The sections on the left are the pick 3 and right are pick 4. Left will highlight the pick 3 numbers that where drawn, right will highlight the pick 4 that was drawn. I've been short on time lately, so, I'm still setting all this up the way it needs to be.

On the top left, the 2 and 5 is every where for the pick 3. On the right it's screaming 8's 3,'s and 5's. They are both the same data, just highlighted separately so I can see what's what. This is why I've been getting them crossed up. I'm seeing both draws in the same workout, and in the same spots. With the way they are so similar in what is drawn, it's hard to pin down which one will get what. Hopefully this will make that easier. When it's doubles like this, it's a little harder to see, but not bad. What I've been doing is checking the top set and fifth set down, in the columns where they are circled at the top, then compaaring that data to what is in the columns of I, M, AV, and AZ to look for matches. When it's doubles like this, they aren't as telling, but when three or four separate numbers, it does better. I'll show some examples.

You can see the 257 again on this one on the bottom left of the picture again in R92-R94.

They are close again in J,K,L row 93 with 461 showing. 4 mirror has a mirror of 7. 6 is one down from 5 and 1 is the mirror of 2. It's like that about everytime there. Either in row 93 or 94. This one is showing the 2 and 5 for 257 at the top, then 5 and 7 in the third down.

Then there is the 3's and 5's in cells G-K 75-79.

Anyway, keep track of AO - AS rows 34 - 36 and same column, rows 54 - 57. Then the same spots in columns R - V. And compare those to columns AV, AZ.

The above post excel screen shot kind of looks like SUDOKU on STEROIDS.

Burnsville United States Member #107244 March 4, 2011 853 Posts Offline

Posted: July 27, 2013, 4:17 am - IP Logged

Going back to the 20th eve draw where there was no doubles in either draw, but mainly not in the four draw.

For that 198 from the 3, top leftish under R - W where it's circled. That corner with the line thru it. That's 6-8-2-1. Pick 3 was 1-9-8. If 2 and 1 are parallels, and 6 and 9 are also. There's 198.

On the right now for the 8406 from the pick 4. Same set, same corner. (Under AO - AS.) There is 8046 there. On down in the positive world, same set as I've mentioned before, 5th down. There is 8-6, 8-6, 0-0. Above the top 8-6 is 7-3. Those two digits have a difference of 4. Added they make 10, and if 0 and 5 are parallels, that could be 15. 1 and 5 have a difference of 4 or a sum of 6. Beside the two 0-0, to the left, there are two 2's, and they make a sum of 4 added/positive, or 0 subtracted/negative. To the top again, right. Under AV - AW. It's circled smaller. There is 4 over 6, over 6, over 8. With 8 over 0 and another 8 to the right of that.

Down two sets, same columns. There is 2 over 4, over 6, over 0. With 4 over 8 to the right and another 4 above those. Both of these in the negative world.

Down in positive land, bottom right red bordered set. There is 8 over 4, over 5, over 0. With a 6 to the right and another 4 at the top and 8 at the bottom.

There is a 286 in the 5th white borddered set under R - V, but it's diagonal, and that's not really what I'm looking at or looking for with this. It's the parts I just got thru talking about. It's how the numbers are there in those same spots under AV multiple times, but in different orders. And how they are in the top white bordered set and the 5th white bordered set down.

Looking at this one also, look at where all these numbers come from. That's in AF - AG rows 44 - 45. It has the only yellow colored cell on the picture in it, with one green and two blue under it. Compare those to the pick 4 that was drew. For some reason, they appear together in about every set, leaving a different number out each time, that cause me to look at or evven bother with this mess. If they wasn't bunched together, I would toss this idea and just quit the 3 and 4.

It's not circled, cause I just saw it here, but in column V, 2nd white bordered set down and last white bordered set down. There is 198 flipped perfectly. On the left of those sets, there is a 9 on the bottom left set with two 7's and a 2. 2 is mirror of 1. The two 7's total 14 and 14 has a subtracted sum of 3 and added sum of 5. That's 3 & 5. That makes 8. 2nd set down in white border, there is the 8, with the 2 as mirror of 1. Leaving 3 over 5. Those two have a difference of 2 and total of 8. 2 and 8 is 10. 10 is either 1 added together, or 0-1=9. I don't know if that makes any sense or not. It's how I'm picking it up though.

Just have to figure out how to reverse engineer these thoughts and play it forward.

Ok, best of luck to all out there today. It's sleepytime.

You can't steal second and keep your foot on FIRST!!!

“Strength does not come from winning. Your struggles develop your strengths. When you go through hardships and decide not to surrender, that is strength”.

Burnsville United States Member #107244 March 4, 2011 853 Posts Offline

Posted: July 27, 2013, 4:25 am - IP Logged

Quote: Originally posted by LottoBoner on July 27, 2013

The above post excel screen shot kind of looks like SUDOKU on STEROIDS.

Is your game RNG?

LOL. Yeah it kinda does. Can't use steroids though. We'd get banned for the rest of the season and not make it into Cooperstown.

No, it's balls bouncing around is what makes this whole thing so weird. If it was RNG, I could kinda see stuff like this happening. But with the balls, it just doesn't make sense to me that it would.

I don't know. May be nothing, but it keeps getting me close enough to cuss and had me those wins the other night.

I don't have my last tix picturized yet, but had 7-3-1 last night for the 6-3-2 that hit here. And 7-1-4-3 for the 8-7-5-2 that hit in the 4 draw. The 7-1-4-3 doesn't look like much, except for the 1 offs and unless you mirror a little, but it's where and how I've been looking at it that makes it make sense.

I don't know LB. May just be my way of thinking.

You can't steal second and keep your foot on FIRST!!!

“Strength does not come from winning. Your struggles develop your strengths. When you go through hardships and decide not to surrender, that is strength”.

Burnsville United States Member #107244 March 4, 2011 853 Posts Offline

Posted: August 8, 2013, 6:06 pm - IP Logged

Well someone either saw something that I did and liked it, or saw what I did and didn't like it. Can't tell which way. Anyway, I've been busy to say it lightly. Been battling a full blown sinus infection also. (Pun partially intended.) I've been working on a 2 step chart for Texas, or any other game that has 4 balls/number positions and a bonus ball. One for any 6 draw game up to 60 numbers. Bobby623's project. Cupcake10's project. These crazy things for the pick 3 and 4. Plus work and plate has been full. (Just not my dinner plate cause I am starved right now).

I've been studying them as much as time will allow me lately. Was seriously looking at the 9-7-9-0 for the 4 draw today, but instead of listening to what I see with these, it was the same ole thing as usual. Let my brain talk me out of it. I didn't play, so, no harm no foul. After the 7-9-9-5 last night here I just talked myself out of it. I was looking at the 7 for the pick 3 last night also, but had the 9 and 5 in the right postion for the four draw.

Anway, here is one from earlier this month, the one from last night's 7-9-9-5 and what appears to me to be similar in it's workings for the 9-7-9-0 that came in today. Anyone that reads this can decide for themeselves if it looks similar to them or not.

So far for this month, the first number choice in AI61 has hit 4 out of 7 games for the evening pick 3. Second guess has hit 2 out of 7 draws. Third has hit 3 out of 7 draws. And fourth has hit 2 out of 7 draws. With a total of 11 out of 21 numbers picked. Still no idea as to how good or bad that is. The daily totals has been in order starting from AI61, 2 of 7 draws, 3 of 7, 4 of 7 and 2 of 7 draws. With a total of 11 out of 24 possible numbers.

I didn't circle anything on this. First off this was the 8-1-13 eve draw. We had 672 for the pick 3 and 9892 for the pick 4. Notice there is a 0 in the four digits that all this stems from. That's in cells AF-AG 44-45. There is a 9 showing for the pick 4. But there where double 9's this draw. See th other digits there and their totals. 5+4 then 0+9. I'm thinking that 0 with it's counterpart 5 being there had some effect on the 4 giving the 2 and 8. (2 is half of 4 and 8 is double of 4.) Something to that nature. What makes me thing that is how the 6 and 7 came about for the 3 draw. 6 and 9 counterparts, then 4 and 7 counterparts.

From where the stats above mentioned came from, there is 1 6 1 over 6 and 4. If 1 and 2, 6 and 9, 4 and 7 are counterparts, then you have 1(2), 6, 4(7) showing there for the 672 pick 3. Then 1(2), 6(9), 1(2), and 6(9) showing for the 9892 that was the four.

Now in AO-AS 54 and 57 rows there are a bunch of 1's followed by 7's top row. Then 1's and 9's. 9's and 7's ended by 8's and 2's. See 9892 or 672 there?

Last nights 666 and 7995. Now the 666 isn't really blowing up anywhere. As far as an actual 6 showing. But if you look in R-V rows 54 -57, there are a few mirror 9's. The pick 3 wasn't my real focus on this one. It was the four draw. Take a look at where all this comes from. The yellow over blue cells under AF-AG 44-45. For the pick 3 and that 666 and using those four digits. 7-2 over 2-1. I'm looking at it as 7+2=9(6), 7+2=9(6), and 7-1=6. For that 7-9-9-5, I'm seeing it as 7, 7+2=9, 7+2=9 and 7-2+5. It's kind of patternized there the way it's laid out around that cube.

Back to under AO thru AS, 54 thru 57. Well, don't think I have to say much there.

In all the circled spots under Y thru AC now. There is a 9 showing in Y35 and that should be a 1. (That has nothing to do with what else is shown BTW, that stops right there and no other data stems from that). But that 32 has an added sum of 5. The 38 below that has a subtracted sum of 5 and an added sum of 11. 11 is either 0 or 2. (Where I've talked about 9 being a sum of 0). 30 below that has a subtracted sum of 7 and a added sum of 3. But there is a 0 involved there. 3 is the root of 9. And to help that make sense, go on down in those columns to the added/positive side. You have 18 with 7 and 9 sums. 72 that has 5 and 9 sums and 36 that has 3 and 9 sums. See the 7995 in that? How about all THREE having a sum of 9 and THREE 6's showing up in the pick 3? Make sense to anyone?

The 9790 that hit today and the 114 for the pick 3. Gonna have to cut this short till I get back, but I've circled the same spots. Notice the 7 in the same spot as above under AF, and look at 7+2=9, 5+1=6(9). Notice 5 hit last night and was NOT in that cube, but did NOT hit here and did show up. The 0 took it's place. See the 114 under AI thru AK 61 and 62?

Gotta start seeing more and stop listening.

K, gotta run out real quick.

You can't steal second and keep your foot on FIRST!!!

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Burnsville United States Member #107244 March 4, 2011 853 Posts Offline

Posted: August 9, 2013, 4:34 am - IP Logged

I was going thru some of these and looking. I noticed that the 8-5-13 day draw had the same starting point numbers as the 8-8-13 day draw. So, I did a side by side comparison. This is it. Now on the 8th we had 114 and 9790. Which is above actually. All that data stemmed from the 7-5 over 2-1 that is in the yellow over blue cube in AF-AG. On the 5th we had 102 and 8026. All the data showing here for that one is in the yellow over blue (green showing) cube in AF-AG on the left. They're both circled with the larger circle. On these they being the same digits, 1-2-5-7, they are in different positions. The 1 and 2 is reversed. On the left the 6-8 from 8026 is showing side by side in the lower left corner of that circle. On the right in that same spot for the 9790 the 7 and 9 is there.

Since there are these changes, there are also subtle changes in the calculations. The variances where I've been noticing and showing these past few posts are circled under AO thru AS. Here the 3 over 6 over 6 over 0 on the right of each set is still there. The rest of them pretty well flipped from left to right. Which may not mean anything, but we did have different results on these, but similar. Both 4 draw picks if totalled up would be 8+2=10+6=16=1+6=7. Then 9+7=16=1+6=7+9=16=1+6=7. Both had a total game sum of 7. With both of these having that toal of 7, see if this makes sense. The date for the 8026 was 8-5(2013). 8+5=13=4. The 5 being the day and 5 being connected to 0 like I think it is. Now the other was 8-8 (2013). 8+8=16=1+6=7 with a subtracted sum of 5. If numbers are the way I think they are, and 4 is positive of 7, with 5 being involved there, does that 5 invert/convert the 4 and 7 somehow? Just throwing that out there. My brain tells me something like that, but it's just a theory I guess. Just kind of seeing that and haven't really tested much on that kind of thing. Kind of makes sense though. Or try the 8-8(2013) this way. 9+7=16+9=25. 25 is either 3 or 7. (5-2 or 2+5.) 3 is what I think, the negative opposite of 8. 7 was the total sum for both. On 8-5(2013), the 8 +5=13 which is 1+3=4 but the 8-5=3. There's that 3 again. 3 from 8-5 and 3 from 5-2. (5-2 from the total of 9+7+9).

Also I see 8/5, 8/8. 8-5(0) =3 and 8-8=0(5). 0 converting the 8 to it's negative form of 3. Don't know if that makes sense to anyone or not. Just kicking around the ideas in my head is all. Kind of makes sense to me. Anyway,,,,,,

On the number picks under AI - AK. The 102 had 4-2-1- over 4-0. The 114 had 4-2-4 over 2-3. There was two 4's showing for the 102 but it didn't have doubles. For the 114 there was two 2's and two 4's and double did show up. The 4 came in and the 2's are what I believe to be the positive counterparts of 1. The 102 is just showing right there in it's AI thru AK.

Back to that date thing on this one. 102 has a total sum of 1+2+3(8). 114 has a total sum of 6. 8 doubled is 16. 16 is the 6th digit over in the teens.

Something funny to me is that 102 from the 5th. It totals 1+0+2=3. But if you look at it like 10-2 you have 10-2=8. 10 is double of 5. Looking at the 114 the same way, 11-4 you have 11-4=7. 7 was the sum of pick 4 that draw. 10(1) then 11(2).

Thoughts and ideas, thoughts and ideas. Who knows?

Goodnight/morning all and best of luck out there today!!! But most of all, be safe!!!

You can't steal second and keep your foot on FIRST!!!

“Strength does not come from winning. Your struggles develop your strengths. When you go through hardships and decide not to surrender, that is strength”.

Burnsville United States Member #107244 March 4, 2011 853 Posts Offline

Posted: August 10, 2013, 3:25 am - IP Logged

Like that one spot where I was watching at for what came next for the 3 draw, I decided to check into it a little further and for all spots. For both draws 3 and 4.

This was for the 8-9-13 eve draw here. We had 463 and 5691 come in for the draws. First off, look at where all this data comes from. That yellow over blue section that is circled under columns AF and AG. See if you can see 436 there. Under AI thru AK, where it is circled again and is programmed to show what to look for, you can see 3, 6, 7. 7 is the negative version of 4. 3-6-7(4). There is also 634 going vertical in AI rows 44 thru 46. Those are the added sums from the 4-2 over 3-9 cube that all this comes from.

Below where it is circled and I've talked about, in J,K,L 93 and 94, you'll see 3-7-7 there. That's 3, 7 (one off from 6 or mirror of 4) and 7 (one off from 6 or mirror of 4). To the right again in R and S, 92, 93, 94, you can see the 4-3-6 in that circle. 3 and 6 is all over row 85, columns K-Q. And again in Q and R 80 thru 83.

The 436 or 5691 isn't really screaming in the sets under R thru V or AO thru AS in the usual spots, but the pick 4 is showing in the top one, second one down, fourth one down, and the bottom one under AO-AS.

The 436 is showing again under Y thru AC, circled at the top. Then look at the bottom set in red border under I and M, rows 59 thru 62.

Now, to what I was talking about with the start of this. Since I was just talking about I and M 59 thru 62. What I did was I took a count of each of the numbers in those spots. They are on the right under BP thru BT, and marked as AV and AZ. All that is is, taking account of what numbers are in those columns. AV thru BB is the same data as I thru O. It's just set up to highlight the 4 draw instead of the 3. BP is all the numbers 0-9 and so is BS. BQ counts how many times each number showed up in those columns and so does BT. The results on this one was column AV or I, had 3 as the highest number tally with 7. 4 and 6 came in next as the most with 5 a piece. They are highlighted with formatting that will show them to you. Well, just the highest total. So all three numbers that came in for the pick 3 tonight was showing there the most.

Now the totals of column AZ or M, since they are both the same, but not both included in the countif formula, had four digits that came in the most as a tie. All four came in with 4 a piece. I'm not going to say what they are, but they are highlighted and you can look and compare.

I had to add the bottom portion of this photo, which is the same page, so some of it is cut off. It's just on the right bottom corner, but BP thru BT, AF-AG rows 44 and 45 and AI thru AK again was what I was wanting to point out anyway.

You can't steal second and keep your foot on FIRST!!!

“Strength does not come from winning. Your struggles develop your strengths. When you go through hardships and decide not to surrender, that is strength”.

Burnsville United States Member #107244 March 4, 2011 853 Posts Offline

Posted: August 10, 2013, 3:59 am - IP Logged

We had doubles with 6's and doubles with 1's on the today game here for the 9th.

667 and 1019. Now you don't see any 1's there around the 6-3 over 6-3. But you do see a 12 which came from 6+6=12. 12 is either 1 or 3. Or if you look at it the way I do, I see we had double 6's for the 3 draw. I see 1-0 (10 is 0-1=9) then 0-1 (0-1=9), then 1 or just the 9. The total sum of 667 is 6+6=12+7=19. 19 sums to 10, then 1. If looking at the 0 as 5, with 1, you have 15 instead of 10, and 15 is 1+5=6. 6 - 9 counterparts. But where did the 7 come from? There is no way that 3+6 combined or subtracted make 7. Look at all those numbers counter acting with one another. 6 cancels 6, 3 cancels 3. That's 0, 0(10)-3=7. Another thing is if you total up all four of those digits, you get 6+3=9+6=15+3=18. 18 is either 7 or 9.

Don't know if that makes sense or not either. Still throwing out what my noggin picks up on is all. This was the 9th day of the 8th month. Thought it was funny that 6 and 3 was the totals of 0 and 1 from the workout above. 6 opposite of 9 and 3 opposite of 8 and all.

Still not sure why that Y35, Y40 and Y45 keep messing up on those subtracted totals. It always when the left number is larger than the right. Either way, that has nothing to do with the rest of this as that formula stops there completely. Where those come from is, if you look at that 46 in Z35, it is the total of all digits inside R thru V rows 35 and 36. If you look at K 35 that is the total of row 35 columns R thru V and K36 is the total of row 36 R thru V. That's 33 over 13. 33+13 =46 and that 46 is in Z35.

You can't steal second and keep your foot on FIRST!!!

“Strength does not come from winning. Your struggles develop your strengths. When you go through hardships and decide not to surrender, that is strength”.

Burnsville United States Member #107244 March 4, 2011 853 Posts Offline

Posted: August 10, 2013, 4:31 am - IP Logged

I don't, well didn't like putting anything up before the draws much. Unless asked to. Because I didn't want to give them a chance to change anything. But I can't have that mentality and expect a win now can I? That's just the wrong mentality to have with these games. Or anything I suppose. I've got to keep positive in all aspects of it, as hard as it is, when there are large sums of money involved. We see enough negativity in the news and all the other junk that's out there trying to keep us negative. I'm just not going to let all the negative thoughts that the world pushes on us stop me anymore. It's only going to be either I win or I do not and if I don't, then it's my own fault for choosing wrong. But going to believe in choosing right. I'm not going to give any prediction on this one, but let this thing go and see what does happen I've shown enough that anyone interested knows where to look. This will be for today's 8-10-13 day draw here in NC. There is 6-3 over 1-8 inside AF and AG. I will do say I see 9 there. Today is the 10th, and 0-1=9. I do see 7 there also. 6+1 and 8-1. 4 is showing as the highest total under BQ and 9 is showing under BT as the most. The 4 showed up 6 times, and the 9 did so 7 times. So we'll see if 7 (4) and or 9(6) has anything to do with either draws today here. AI thru AK is showing 5-3-5-3-0 as picks with 0's, 8's and 5 as mirrors for those. I am seeing all kinds of 3's, 5's and 8's at the bottom of this thing also.

Ok, bout it for tonight.

Best of luck for all today and be safe most importantly!!!

You can't steal second and keep your foot on FIRST!!!

“Strength does not come from winning. Your struggles develop your strengths. When you go through hardships and decide not to surrender, that is strength”.

United States Member #142777 May 18, 2013 263 Posts Offline

Posted: August 24, 2013, 3:14 am - IP Logged

Quote: Originally posted by Greenfox on August 10, 2013

I don't, well didn't like putting anything up before the draws much. Unless asked to. Because I didn't want to give them a chance to change anything. But I can't have that mentality and expect a win now can I? That's just the wrong mentality to have with these games. Or anything I suppose. I've got to keep positive in all aspects of it, as hard as it is, when there are large sums of money involved. We see enough negativity in the news and all the other junk that's out there trying to keep us negative. I'm just not going to let all the negative thoughts that the world pushes on us stop me anymore. It's only going to be either I win or I do not and if I don't, then it's my own fault for choosing wrong. But going to believe in choosing right. I'm not going to give any prediction on this one, but let this thing go and see what does happen I've shown enough that anyone interested knows where to look. This will be for today's 8-10-13 day draw here in NC. There is 6-3 over 1-8 inside AF and AG. I will do say I see 9 there. Today is the 10th, and 0-1=9. I do see 7 there also. 6+1 and 8-1. 4 is showing as the highest total under BQ and 9 is showing under BT as the most. The 4 showed up 6 times, and the 9 did so 7 times. So we'll see if 7 (4) and or 9(6) has anything to do with either draws today here. AI thru AK is showing 5-3-5-3-0 as picks with 0's, 8's and 5 as mirrors for those. I am seeing all kinds of 3's, 5's and 8's at the bottom of this thing also.

Ok, bout it for tonight.

Best of luck for all today and be safe most importantly!!!

Even though i believe its all random i give you credit for your statistical analysis approach. I remember that was the last class/exam i took for my degree and what an experience. I wish you luck.

You mention arnold in your signature and you look like a weight lifter no? Any number crunching or systems you want to share for overall mass, sets, reps, days, and calories ect.?

Burnsville United States Member #107244 March 4, 2011 853 Posts Offline

Posted: September 7, 2013, 1:36 am - IP Logged

Quote: Originally posted by veganlife125 on August 24, 2013

Even though i believe its all random i give you credit for your statistical analysis approach. I remember that was the last class/exam i took for my degree and what an experience. I wish you luck.

You mention arnold in your signature and you look like a weight lifter no? Any number crunching or systems you want to share for overall mass, sets, reps, days, and calories ect.?

Whats your odds on the Mr. Olympia in 6 weeks?

cheers

Hello veganlife125,

I've taken on a second job of the evenings, and it's pretty well took up most of my free time. Hopefully I can get to a balanced area and get to everything I need to though.

Well, there are some random to it I guess. I've seen it and there has to be or else the following numbers would be the same everytime wouldn't they? I'm not sure if it's a random like most think it is though. I don't know for sure to be honest. I know I've seen things that should be random, but looking deeper at them, or clearer I should say, random could never produce that kind of results. Who knows.

I figured you have to throw in the statistics to see if what one is doing is an improvement, getting worse or no change. It's the best way to see all that as far as figuring anything out. I kind of lost interest in school after elementary ended to be honest. Life happened i guess you could say. Which I was doing algebra in the 3rd grade when it was really only a course in highschool around here so it wasn't like I didn't know anything or something like that. Thank you for the luck wishing btw!!!

Yes, it's Arnold there. The thing about Arnold was his mindset. He could have been 2 feet tall and weighed 50lbs, and he'd still have made something big in this life. He had that mindset that nothing was going to stop him. That's what we all have to have no matter what we are trying to accomplish.

A weight lifter? No. lol. I'm really 6'6" and about 98 lbs. LOL. I just compressed the picture down and stretched it to make me look like that. LOL. Just kidding. Umm, not so much anymore no. I'm only 5'7" and right at 170 now. I used to be pretty big into it though. With you being a vegan, I wouldn't know what to tell you to eat as far as that goes. When I was working out regularly, it was a nonstop eatery for me, still is. It's not so much what you eat, it's what you do. When working out, for me, it was throwing what weights I had on the bars and doing it as many times as I could. Usualy about 200lbs, with four or five sets of 20 to 30 reps. I never used anything but free weights. Just benches, curls and the basics. If your looking for mass though, you gotta eat. And a lot. The protein shakes help, but nothing like real food. It was an everyday ordeal of working out. No schedules. No calorie counting. Just eat, workout and work. I would also recommend roller skating. If it wasn't for roller skating as much as I did in my youth, I probably wouldn't be here today.

For the Olympia, I couldn't even tell ya who is in it this year or has been the past coupe of years. I've kind of been out of that game for a little while now.

Thank you for the post!!! And have a great weekend!!!

You can't steal second and keep your foot on FIRST!!!

“Strength does not come from winning. Your struggles develop your strengths. When you go through hardships and decide not to surrender, that is strength”.

Burnsville United States Member #107244 March 4, 2011 853 Posts Offline

Posted: September 7, 2013, 1:39 am - IP Logged

With this second job, it's took up a lot of my time with working on this, but I have done some work on a few things. My workouts and for others. I will be back to it as quick as I can though. There are plenty more I've seen and will show and try to explain about it.

Best of luck to all out there and be safe!!!

You can't steal second and keep your foot on FIRST!!!

“Strength does not come from winning. Your struggles develop your strengths. When you go through hardships and decide not to surrender, that is strength”.

United States Member #142777 May 18, 2013 263 Posts Offline

Posted: September 7, 2013, 3:32 pm - IP Logged

Quote: Originally posted by Greenfox on September 7, 2013

Hello veganlife125,

I've taken on a second job of the evenings, and it's pretty well took up most of my free time. Hopefully I can get to a balanced area and get to everything I need to though.

Well, there are some random to it I guess. I've seen it and there has to be or else the following numbers would be the same everytime wouldn't they? I'm not sure if it's a random like most think it is though. I don't know for sure to be honest. I know I've seen things that should be random, but looking deeper at them, or clearer I should say, random could never produce that kind of results. Who knows.

I figured you have to throw in the statistics to see if what one is doing is an improvement, getting worse or no change. It's the best way to see all that as far as figuring anything out. I kind of lost interest in school after elementary ended to be honest. Life happened i guess you could say. Which I was doing algebra in the 3rd grade when it was really only a course in highschool around here so it wasn't like I didn't know anything or something like that. Thank you for the luck wishing btw!!!

Yes, it's Arnold there. The thing about Arnold was his mindset. He could have been 2 feet tall and weighed 50lbs, and he'd still have made something big in this life. He had that mindset that nothing was going to stop him. That's what we all have to have no matter what we are trying to accomplish.

A weight lifter? No. lol. I'm really 6'6" and about 98 lbs. LOL. I just compressed the picture down and stretched it to make me look like that. LOL. Just kidding. Umm, not so much anymore no. I'm only 5'7" and right at 170 now. I used to be pretty big into it though. With you being a vegan, I wouldn't know what to tell you to eat as far as that goes. When I was working out regularly, it was a nonstop eatery for me, still is. It's not so much what you eat, it's what you do. When working out, for me, it was throwing what weights I had on the bars and doing it as many times as I could. Usualy about 200lbs, with four or five sets of 20 to 30 reps. I never used anything but free weights. Just benches, curls and the basics. If your looking for mass though, you gotta eat. And a lot. The protein shakes help, but nothing like real food. It was an everyday ordeal of working out. No schedules. No calorie counting. Just eat, workout and work. I would also recommend roller skating. If it wasn't for roller skating as much as I did in my youth, I probably wouldn't be here today.

For the Olympia, I couldn't even tell ya who is in it this year or has been the past coupe of years. I've kind of been out of that game for a little while now.

Thank you for the post!!! And have a great weekend!!!

Whats up Greenfox! I can see you have a very busy schedule and work always has to come first. The positive is all that statistical number crunching is a great workout for the brain even if it is all random. However, if you win big you can get the last laugh and tell the naysayers i told ya. Arnold is a great inspiration coming to this country broke and not speaking the language to conquering bodybuilding, movies, and politics. whoa. Like you said "mindset".

Look forward to your fitness analysis when you get time no rush though. I think your right on with the food. So many concentrate on genetics, drugs, supplements, sleep habits, workout routines, ect. but if you can't eat every 3 hours for years its near impossible from what i've seen. In fact in the years i was more into it i had to wake up at 2am every night to get a 1000 - 2000 calories shake or i still couldn't grow LOL! It takes ultimate discipline to ever get to where you can eat like that. Mr. Olympia coverage rotates yearly since the Weider's sold in 2003 but for now Muscular Development Magazine's website is covering the Olympia. It's going to be live webcasted this year on the site for free i believe. Six or Seven guys have a legitimate shot!

Roller Skating Dang! Back in the day after middle school going to the rinks speed skating, couple skating, video games. Were has the time gone?

Burnsville United States Member #107244 March 4, 2011 853 Posts Offline

Posted: September 16, 2013, 4:18 am - IP Logged

Quote: Originally posted by veganlife125 on September 7, 2013

Whats up Greenfox! I can see you have a very busy schedule and work always has to come first. The positive is all that statistical number crunching is a great workout for the brain even if it is all random. However, if you win big you can get the last laugh and tell the naysayers i told ya. Arnold is a great inspiration coming to this country broke and not speaking the language to conquering bodybuilding, movies, and politics. whoa. Like you said "mindset".

Look forward to your fitness analysis when you get time no rush though. I think your right on with the food. So many concentrate on genetics, drugs, supplements, sleep habits, workout routines, ect. but if you can't eat every 3 hours for years its near impossible from what i've seen. In fact in the years i was more into it i had to wake up at 2am every night to get a 1000 - 2000 calories shake or i still couldn't grow LOL! It takes ultimate discipline to ever get to where you can eat like that. Mr. Olympia coverage rotates yearly since the Weider's sold in 2003 but for now Muscular Development Magazine's website is covering the Olympia. It's going to be live webcasted this year on the site for free i believe. Six or Seven guys have a legitimate shot!

Roller Skating Dang! Back in the day after middle school going to the rinks speed skating, couple skating, video games. Were has the time gone?

Good luck!

Cheers

Hey veganlife,

Yes, it's been a busy few weeks here. Gotta work when we can these days for sure. I love the stats. I also really like geometry, but haven't found much use for it with this sort of deal. I just like to use it to lay stuff out and see it all come together without having to figure each and every little increment. Like laying out a house or fireplace. Stuff like that. It's just fun. I'm not about telling anyone I told ya so. LOL. What I'm doing is just something that popped in my tiny little brain and won't leave me alone. Kind of like the mashed potatoes scene in a close encounter of the third kind. It just sets there eating at me day and night. And yes, it is all about the mindset. Everything we do, or don't do is.

As far as the fitness goes, it's all about what your after I guess. If you want big, you gotta eat and eat like crazy. Then hit the weights with a lot weight and reps. I never cared about being big myself. Me, the best shape I was ever in I was 185 at 5'7" and could pick up a car just about. And still run like the wind. That's where the skating came into play. It was an every weekend deal for that, but without it, I'd probably be dead now. Giant muscles are useless without having the oxygen feeding them. The strength is there, but only for moments, then the blood starts losing oxygen and they are usless. So, it's all what your looking for I guess. I never used any supplements or kind of routine at all personally. It was eat, work, sleep, workout, sports, just living life doing what I could to stay in shape, without ever thinking I couldn't do something. If someone said I couldn't pick something up, I'd do it if it meant every vessel in my head would bust. I didn't care, and still don't.

I don't eat anywhere like I used to. Don't get me wrong, I can still put down a 4 lb. steak, but, might not get all the potato in with it. LOL. Before, I'd eat my plate, whoever was with me's leftovers, and sometimes grab something off a plate or two of someone heading out of the restaurant. LOL. I gotta watch it now though. Getting old now. I don't mind being old, or even being ugly. I just don't want to be old and ugly.

Best of luck to ya!!!

You can't steal second and keep your foot on FIRST!!!

“Strength does not come from winning. Your struggles develop your strengths. When you go through hardships and decide not to surrender, that is strength”.

Burnsville United States Member #107244 March 4, 2011 853 Posts Offline

Posted: September 16, 2013, 7:22 am - IP Logged

Sorry everyone. With all that's going on, just trying to get a little balance in life at the moment. It get's a little hectic sometimes, and that's when you got to get hectic back I guess. Kind of getting some of it done here and there, but still not where I need nor want to be. It'll get there though. Just a little update as to where I am with these crazy sheets. I have more on the other games also, but getting to all of it as I can. I've done some testing on these a couple of ways. It's doing pretty good. I think anyway. If I'd just let my brain take in what it see's instead of doubt it, I'd be doing a lot better.

I was going to break this thing down and show every little piece of it, how it works, and my idea for it. After getting a good start on it and being so tired, I'll have to do that later and get into what I wanted to show about it. I've done as much testing as time will allow these days. I made another book with some changes also, to see if there was any differences also. The only change I made to it, is where this all comes from. That 5-7 over 2-1. That is the totals of how many times 0 and 1 showed up in the upper section of this mess. (That is in the pink circled set under AE thru AI. {57 and 21}). The changes I made in the other test book, is I took the added corner sums and the subtracted corner sums and switched places with them and fixed the calculations below and above to adjust for those changes. This way is just as I have been showing them with the 7-2 giving a subtracted sum on what should be the positive side, and the 7+2 giving an added sum on the negative side. I tried it this way with the reason of having the positive on the negative and vice-versa, and it has worked thus far. I'm not changing that for now. The change is switching that around, so that all the negative/subtracted sums are on the left, and all the added/positive sums are on the right. I think I said that right.

That being said, I'll get to where I was headed. I've showed the counters in BP thru BT already. BP is just the nunmber choices 0-9, with BQ counting how may of each are where. BQ counts all the numbers that are in column AV, rows 34 thru 62. (Same as on the left). BT counts AZ, same rows. On this one, in column AV, the 4 showed up the most with 9 times. First off, let's look at those numbers. We have the 4 being the most there. 4 is the positive version of 7. (I think anyway, and have all these set up to show it as so.) The 7 showed up in the pick 3. So did the 9 that was the amount of times 4 showed. 9 is a natural whole number, but it's like 0,1 and 4 in the way it acts with other numbers. It is like 0 in the way that any number added to it, summed, is that number. (Keep that in mind for some of this.) With that 9 flipping the 4 to 7, giving 7 and 9 for the pick 3.

Under BT, and it showing what showed up the most in column AZ, it had 5,6,7,8 showing up the most with 4 times. With that in mind, look at what the pick 4 numbers where. Those two sets of counters are in the grey circle, upper right corner.

I added this part the other day. This is the two sets of counters that are in the large green cirle on the right under BE thru BI. The counters on the left here, count the digits in the top center, green circled set, with the counters to the right there counting the digits that are in the lower green circled set of the same columns. The top set had 2,3,4 and 6 showing up the most with 3 times each. there is 2,3,4 from the 3421 of the pick 4. Now the thing about 6 is, it's the positive version of 9. 9 is, 0-1, 6 is (switching the 0 to it's negative counter part, 5) 5+1. Or (0+1). Or 1. {Same thing with the 4 there}. That's the problem with these games. That 0,1,4,9 and how they act. (Again, I think anyway.) With what I've got coming up, but may not get to this morning, I'll hope to show what I'm talking about with that. Anyway, there is at least 3 of the pick 4 digits, visibly.

Scrolling on down, this thing picked 3 and 1 as possibles in AI thru AK, with 8 and 2 as their opposites. There is 3,2,1 from 3421.

On down further now. If you look in AR thru AX, rows 70 thru 74, you'll see what else I've added. What that is is, taking the totals in AC77 thru AC81 and AH77 thru AH81getting the up to three possible digits each of those digits make. From the negative side to the positive side. Here we have 2 in AC77 and is is showing so in AR70, then going down with the rest of the five. On the positive side, we have 7 in AH77 and it is showing so in AV70 as 7, then going down taking care of the other five. You can see the 11 in AH79, it has three possibles. 1-1=0, 1+1=2 or 11 being the first double digit and the first digit, so 1. Giving 0,1,2 as the possibilities. Looking at 2 as the positive version of 1, with 0 interacting might make sense saying that. That's how I'm looking at these regardless of how it really might be, and a key to them working right. It's part of the programming into it also. Anyway, if you look down that positive side there you have 7,8,1-0-2,7,6 showing there. The opposites for these numbers is 4,3,2,5,1,4,9. You can see the 3421 there. On the negative side you have 2,1-0-9,1-0-9,1-0-9,8. If you notice there is no 7 on the negative side here, but the 9 and 2 are visible from the pick 3. On the positive side, there is no 3 or 4 showing, but their opposites of 8 and 7 are along with the 1 and 2.

Right under that setup is some numbers. What that does is it matched up any digits that this picks that show up in the paragraph above's set. It matched up the 1,2,8 or 1,2,3 that hit in the pick 4.

Moving on. Bottom left corner you'll see a purple squared off section. The top one of the two. What that is is taking the four sets of four cubes directly above it and finding any matches that go from cube to cube there. Those four cubes in G thru K 75 thru 79 are what I've showed before. They are the added sum totals of each corner of the cubes to the right. Which are Y thru AG, rows 67 thru 75, and rows 84 yhru 93. Not the outer corners, but like if it was folded, that I've talked about. That purple squared off section just finds any digits that match up from cube to cube there and shows them in one spot. Here it showed the 8,2,3 as matches. With the 2 showing up the most. The 2 came in on both of these draws. The 8th month, 3rd day. 8+3=2. There are counters to the left of that also that will count each digit in that setup. The left counter is marked above it 80-82 and takes care of that top half of matches, with the right counters marked above it, 84-86 taking care of the bottom set of matches. This one had the 8 twice on top, and the two five times on the bottom, with the 3 once. Now the 3 showed up in the pick 4. So did the 2. But where is the 1 and 4? the 2 is there 5 times. 5 is half or double. Half of 10, double of 0. What's half of 2? Double of 2? With the 3 and 2? Also, if 5 is the negative of 0, and 0 and 9 have the same additive properties, does that mean that 9 and 0 are connected someway? Below this and before the next is the roots and what I see with them and that 0-9. I tried to square it off without coloring it in to show what I'm talking about. The difference of 2 and 7 is? Sum of this game is 9+7+2=16>18>7 or 9, sum of pick 4 was 3+4+2+1=7>9>10>1 or 9.

Anyway, moving along cause I'm really tired now. The green smaller circled set to the right of the very above paragraph. In the right hand cells there you see 1 over 1 over 4 over 3? 3-4-2-1 with the 1 being in positive form once there to complete the pick 4. Look at the left cells also while here. You have 4 over 5 over 7 over 1. 4 That's four digits, but taking that 4 over that 5 and putting them together makes? Then 7. Then the negative version of 2. 1?

Gonna wind this up real fast. Eyes are burning pretty bad now. Bottom purple square. You can see all the 3's, 4's, 2's and 1's there. The only digits that are different than the pick 4 was the 0 and 5. To the right of that in the little green circled 2 over 2 over 2 set. See the 0-2-7? 0 with an 8? 9 doubled is? Going from the bottom up there. See the 3-2-4? There is 3 and 7 at the bottom there. 3+7=10=1. At the top of that thre is 0 and 8. 0(10)-8=2. 2 is the positive of 1. 3421.

And here is what it looks like with that 57 over 21 switched putting the positive additions all on the positive right, and the negative subtractions on the negative left. You can see the similarites and the differences.

Oh, and about forgot. This all stems from 57 and 21. That's 5 7 and 2 1. There is 2 and 7 from the 3 draw. 1 and 2 from the 4 draw. The positive of 7 is 4, so 4,2,1 for the 4 draw. You can see all the 3's and or 8's showing up in there also to finish off the 4 draw. Then you have 7+2=9 diagonal, with 5+1=6 diagonal the other way. 6 9.

I sure hope this makes sense to someone else.

I'll be putting some more of this on here after getting home tonight. I gotta sleep some now so I can make it till then. Guess I'll be taking today off just so I can make it tonight the way I feel.

Alright, I wish you all the best of luck today, and be safe!!!

You can't steal second and keep your foot on FIRST!!!

“Strength does not come from winning. Your struggles develop your strengths. When you go through hardships and decide not to surrender, that is strength”.

NYC United States Member #54483 August 20, 2007 886 Posts Offline

Posted: September 17, 2013, 11:14 am - IP Logged

Quote: Originally posted by Greenfox on September 16, 2013

Sorry everyone. With all that's going on, just trying to get a little balance in life at the moment. It get's a little hectic sometimes, and that's when you got to get hectic back I guess. Kind of getting some of it done here and there, but still not where I need nor want to be. It'll get there though. Just a little update as to where I am with these crazy sheets. I have more on the other games also, but getting to all of it as I can. I've done some testing on these a couple of ways. It's doing pretty good. I think anyway. If I'd just let my brain take in what it see's instead of doubt it, I'd be doing a lot better.

I was going to break this thing down and show every little piece of it, how it works, and my idea for it. After getting a good start on it and being so tired, I'll have to do that later and get into what I wanted to show about it. I've done as much testing as time will allow these days. I made another book with some changes also, to see if there was any differences also. The only change I made to it, is where this all comes from. That 5-7 over 2-1. That is the totals of how many times 0 and 1 showed up in the upper section of this mess. (That is in the pink circled set under AE thru AI. {57 and 21}). The changes I made in the other test book, is I took the added corner sums and the subtracted corner sums and switched places with them and fixed the calculations below and above to adjust for those changes. This way is just as I have been showing them with the 7-2 giving a subtracted sum on what should be the positive side, and the 7+2 giving an added sum on the negative side. I tried it this way with the reason of having the positive on the negative and vice-versa, and it has worked thus far. I'm not changing that for now. The change is switching that around, so that all the negative/subtracted sums are on the left, and all the added/positive sums are on the right. I think I said that right.

That being said, I'll get to where I was headed. I've showed the counters in BP thru BT already. BP is just the nunmber choices 0-9, with BQ counting how may of each are where. BQ counts all the numbers that are in column AV, rows 34 thru 62. (Same as on the left). BT counts AZ, same rows. On this one, in column AV, the 4 showed up the most with 9 times. First off, let's look at those numbers. We have the 4 being the most there. 4 is the positive version of 7. (I think anyway, and have all these set up to show it as so.) The 7 showed up in the pick 3. So did the 9 that was the amount of times 4 showed. 9 is a natural whole number, but it's like 0,1 and 4 in the way it acts with other numbers. It is like 0 in the way that any number added to it, summed, is that number. (Keep that in mind for some of this.) With that 9 flipping the 4 to 7, giving 7 and 9 for the pick 3.

Under BT, and it showing what showed up the most in column AZ, it had 5,6,7,8 showing up the most with 4 times. With that in mind, look at what the pick 4 numbers where. Those two sets of counters are in the grey circle, upper right corner.

I added this part the other day. This is the two sets of counters that are in the large green cirle on the right under BE thru BI. The counters on the left here, count the digits in the top center, green circled set, with the counters to the right there counting the digits that are in the lower green circled set of the same columns. The top set had 2,3,4 and 6 showing up the most with 3 times each. there is 2,3,4 from the 3421 of the pick 4. Now the thing about 6 is, it's the positive version of 9. 9 is, 0-1, 6 is (switching the 0 to it's negative counter part, 5) 5+1. Or (0+1). Or 1. {Same thing with the 4 there}. That's the problem with these games. That 0,1,4,9 and how they act. (Again, I think anyway.) With what I've got coming up, but may not get to this morning, I'll hope to show what I'm talking about with that. Anyway, there is at least 3 of the pick 4 digits, visibly.

Scrolling on down, this thing picked 3 and 1 as possibles in AI thru AK, with 8 and 2 as their opposites. There is 3,2,1 from 3421.

On down further now. If you look in AR thru AX, rows 70 thru 74, you'll see what else I've added. What that is is, taking the totals in AC77 thru AC81 and AH77 thru AH81getting the up to three possible digits each of those digits make. From the negative side to the positive side. Here we have 2 in AC77 and is is showing so in AR70, then going down with the rest of the five. On the positive side, we have 7 in AH77 and it is showing so in AV70 as 7, then going down taking care of the other five. You can see the 11 in AH79, it has three possibles. 1-1=0, 1+1=2 or 11 being the first double digit and the first digit, so 1. Giving 0,1,2 as the possibilities. Looking at 2 as the positive version of 1, with 0 interacting might make sense saying that. That's how I'm looking at these regardless of how it really might be, and a key to them working right. It's part of the programming into it also. Anyway, if you look down that positive side there you have 7,8,1-0-2,7,6 showing there. The opposites for these numbers is 4,3,2,5,1,4,9. You can see the 3421 there. On the negative side you have 2,1-0-9,1-0-9,1-0-9,8. If you notice there is no 7 on the negative side here, but the 9 and 2 are visible from the pick 3. On the positive side, there is no 3 or 4 showing, but their opposites of 8 and 7 are along with the 1 and 2.

Right under that setup is some numbers. What that does is it matched up any digits that this picks that show up in the paragraph above's set. It matched up the 1,2,8 or 1,2,3 that hit in the pick 4.

Moving on. Bottom left corner you'll see a purple squared off section. The top one of the two. What that is is taking the four sets of four cubes directly above it and finding any matches that go from cube to cube there. Those four cubes in G thru K 75 thru 79 are what I've showed before. They are the added sum totals of each corner of the cubes to the right. Which are Y thru AG, rows 67 thru 75, and rows 84 yhru 93. Not the outer corners, but like if it was folded, that I've talked about. That purple squared off section just finds any digits that match up from cube to cube there and shows them in one spot. Here it showed the 8,2,3 as matches. With the 2 showing up the most. The 2 came in on both of these draws. The 8th month, 3rd day. 8+3=2. There are counters to the left of that also that will count each digit in that setup. The left counter is marked above it 80-82 and takes care of that top half of matches, with the right counters marked above it, 84-86 taking care of the bottom set of matches. This one had the 8 twice on top, and the two five times on the bottom, with the 3 once. Now the 3 showed up in the pick 4. So did the 2. But where is the 1 and 4? the 2 is there 5 times. 5 is half or double. Half of 10, double of 0. What's half of 2? Double of 2? With the 3 and 2? Also, if 5 is the negative of 0, and 0 and 9 have the same additive properties, does that mean that 9 and 0 are connected someway? Below this and before the next is the roots and what I see with them and that 0-9. I tried to square it off without coloring it in to show what I'm talking about. The difference of 2 and 7 is? Sum of this game is 9+7+2=16>18>7 or 9, sum of pick 4 was 3+4+2+1=7>9>10>1 or 9.

Anyway, moving along cause I'm really tired now. The green smaller circled set to the right of the very above paragraph. In the right hand cells there you see 1 over 1 over 4 over 3? 3-4-2-1 with the 1 being in positive form once there to complete the pick 4. Look at the left cells also while here. You have 4 over 5 over 7 over 1. 4 That's four digits, but taking that 4 over that 5 and putting them together makes? Then 7. Then the negative version of 2. 1?

Gonna wind this up real fast. Eyes are burning pretty bad now. Bottom purple square. You can see all the 3's, 4's, 2's and 1's there. The only digits that are different than the pick 4 was the 0 and 5. To the right of that in the little green circled 2 over 2 over 2 set. See the 0-2-7? 0 with an 8? 9 doubled is? Going from the bottom up there. See the 3-2-4? There is 3 and 7 at the bottom there. 3+7=10=1. At the top of that thre is 0 and 8. 0(10)-8=2. 2 is the positive of 1. 3421.

And here is what it looks like with that 57 over 21 switched putting the positive additions all on the positive right, and the negative subtractions on the negative left. You can see the similarites and the differences.

Oh, and about forgot. This all stems from 57 and 21. That's 5 7 and 2 1. There is 2 and 7 from the 3 draw. 1 and 2 from the 4 draw. The positive of 7 is 4, so 4,2,1 for the 4 draw. You can see all the 3's and or 8's showing up in there also to finish off the 4 draw. Then you have 7+2=9 diagonal, with 5+1=6 diagonal the other way. 6 9.

I sure hope this makes sense to someone else.

I'll be putting some more of this on here after getting home tonight. I gotta sleep some now so I can make it till then. Guess I'll be taking today off just so I can make it tonight the way I feel.

Alright, I wish you all the best of luck today, and be safe!!!

Hi, GreenFox:

Your work is creative really! I like it!

Where I can find the link of your Excel program above for downloading?

Also, the best way is to make a video about the instructions in detail if possible.

I want to make some backtests for my NY-P4 by using your system.

Thanks for your nice sharing and sincere help!!!

Best regards,

lb

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