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How about a new Systems forum based on just "facts"

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Posted: September 29, 2014, 9:57 pm - IP Logged

All such claims I've ever noticed were in the Pick3 and Pick4 forum but since I don't play those games I never checked them out.  If you're are really interested you would probably has to do a search and ask the members who made such claims.

(Please correct me if I'm wrong.)

You seem to be saying that, to the best of your recollection,

a system that "works" has never been presented here.

I'm assuming that if someone claimed they had a working "system,"

someone like yourself or Stack47 would have checked it out.

    garyo1954's avatar - garyo
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    "Be Direct! If you are talking about a specific system say so. None of us are mind readers. Maybe some are, but they can't read minds across the internet."

    I wasn't taking about any specific system and certainly not one of yours.

    Most of the topics called "systems" are nothing more than crude pick-3 RNGs and why a new Forum was suggested. I have nothing against any ideas on how to play lottery games better, but I don't think it's fair that a few members fill this Forum with predictions, pushing other ideas back to page 2.

    Stack,

    I don't take things personally. (At least I take them less personally than some. )

    In any case, I don't like to post any idea until I proof it, dissect it, and turn it inside out. 

    But  some require input from others who have been down the same road.

     

    I do harbor the same feeling about certain posters who incessantly top post systems, never having time to work through them all in one week, much less one day. TRUTH: I IGNORE ALL THOSE THREADS.

    I've noticed a post by Todd last week where he took a proactive approach asking people not to posts dozens of prediction posts back to back to back to back. Nobody seriously wants to read those.

    So that's another point we completely agree on. Big Smile

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      RJOh's avatar - chipmunk
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      (Please correct me if I'm wrong.)

      You seem to be saying that, to the best of your recollection,

      a system that "works" has never been presented here.

      I'm assuming that if someone claimed they had a working "system,"

      someone like yourself or Stack47 would have checked it out.

      You are wrong. Like I said before, the only systems I've ever noticed any one claiming worked were pick3 or pick4 which I have no interest in.  I would only check out a system that I could use with one of the games I play.  Even then it would have to be within my budget.  I do look up the predictions stats of those making such claims and if they are worst than mines then I'm done checking.

       * you don't need to buy more tickets, just buy a winning ticket * 
         
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        You are wrong. Like I said before, the only systems I've ever noticed any one claiming worked were pick3 or pick4 which I have no interest in.  I would only check out a system that I could use with one of the games I play.  Even then it would have to be within my budget.  I do look up the predictions stats of those making such claims and if they are worst than mines then I'm done checking.

        So, apparently then, in the 13 years you've been observing and posting here, you know of no systems, for any game, that were claimed by someone to "work," and then subsequently proven to "work."

        Occasionally, I'm sure someone plays their system, gets lucky and wins a nice prize, and then concludes their system "works," even if it never "worked" again.

        Oh well, I thought for sure you would have remembered something about a proven winning system.

          RJOh's avatar - chipmunk
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          So, apparently then, in the 13 years you've been observing and posting here, you know of no systems, for any game, that were claimed by someone to "work," and then subsequently proven to "work."

          Occasionally, I'm sure someone plays their system, gets lucky and wins a nice prize, and then concludes their system "works," even if it never "worked" again.

          Oh well, I thought for sure you would have remembered something about a proven winning system.

          I'm sure anyone who have followed jackpot lottery styles games during that time have hear of Brad Duke who claimed he had a system and won PB and the couple from Michigan that traveled to Mass. to spend $300K playing the game they discontinued last year when ever it has a roll down but such schemes are out of my budget even if they do work.  I'm sure there are other games out there that if someone is willing to spend enough money a scheme would likely work, like when Ohio ended Lot'O Play and paid out higher lower tier prizes when there were no jackpot winner on its final draw.  I did spend a couple of extra dollars and it paid off.  Had I known it would work out so well I would have spent more.

          If you're playing a jackpot game, a system only has to work once, who would want to be winning a jackpot every other time they played?

           * you don't need to buy more tickets, just buy a winning ticket * 
             
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            Posted: September 30, 2014, 3:30 pm - IP Logged

            I'm sure anyone who have followed jackpot lottery styles games during that time have hear of Brad Duke who claimed he had a system and won PB and the couple from Michigan that traveled to Mass. to spend $300K playing the game they discontinued last year when ever it has a roll down but such schemes are out of my budget even if they do work.  I'm sure there are other games out there that if someone is willing to spend enough money a scheme would likely work, like when Ohio ended Lot'O Play and paid out higher lower tier prizes when there were no jackpot winner on its final draw.  I did spend a couple of extra dollars and it paid off.  Had I known it would work out so well I would have spent more.

            If you're playing a jackpot game, a system only has to work once, who would want to be winning a jackpot every other time they played?

            Can I just win one jackpot a month? Or would that sound greedy? I'll take the lowest over $40 million.

            TIA

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              RJOh's avatar - chipmunk
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              Can I just win one jackpot a month? Or would that sound greedy? I'll take the lowest over $40 million.

              TIA

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              I doubt if anyone even think they could come up with a scheme for doing that even with games that generally have jackpots of less than $10M but several members have PM me saying they've come close to doing that with pick5 games like Ohio's Rolling Cash5 that have jackpots of $100K to $500K.  Since none of them had a LP prediction history, I dismissed them as scams and never replied.

               * you don't need to buy more tickets, just buy a winning ticket * 
                 
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                garyo1954's avatar - garyo
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                Posted: October 1, 2014, 7:35 pm - IP Logged

                I doubt if anyone even think they could come up with a scheme for doing that even with games that generally have jackpots of less than $10M but several members have PM me saying they've come close to doing that with pick5 games like Ohio's Rolling Cash5 that have jackpots of $100K to $500K.  Since none of them had a LP prediction history, I dismissed them as scams and never replied.

                So the answer is NO???

                That guy who has been telling me he has the GUARANTEED, NEVER LOSE AGAIN system is yanking my chain?

                And that one with the I HAVE THE GUARANTEED WINNING NUMBERS EVERY WEEK post is probably spamming?

                LMAO!

                I SOOOOOOOOOOOOO wanted to BELIEVE!!!!!!!!!! Wink

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                  Of the 159, 638 members registered here, 273 are logged in at this moment (7:16PM EST.)   As for the number of users who POST here per day, on average, only our fearless leader knows for sure as it would take a lot of time and bandwidth for mere mortals to calculate it. Does anyone ever wonder why, over all the years this site has existed, noone has posted a winning system, one that would have caused a mass exodus of players on their way to retirement into the ranks of "professional" lottery playsers?

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                    Of the 159, 638 members registered here, 273 are logged in at this moment (7:16PM EST.)   As for the number of users who POST here per day, on average, only our fearless leader knows for sure as it would take a lot of time and bandwidth for mere mortals to calculate it. Does anyone ever wonder why, over all the years this site has existed, noone has posted a winning system, one that would have caused a mass exodus of players on their way to retirement into the ranks of "professional" lottery playsers?

                    After acknowledging only 0.171% of the members are "logged in at the moment", you ask if there is a mass exodus. Hopefully one of your math professors can explain how that translate into slightly more than 99% if the members are not logged on.

                    What are the results of your 25,000 team MLB playoffs simulation?

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                      Posted: October 2, 2014, 8:19 pm - IP Logged

                      So, apparently then, in the 13 years you've been observing and posting here, you know of no systems, for any game, that were claimed by someone to "work," and then subsequently proven to "work."

                      Occasionally, I'm sure someone plays their system, gets lucky and wins a nice prize, and then concludes their system "works," even if it never "worked" again.

                      Oh well, I thought for sure you would have remembered something about a proven winning system.

                      Jimmy, do you distinguish between the terms SYSTEM, and METHOD?...

                      Sure, any foolproof SYSTEM, is probably not.  There's no foolproof SYSTEM for anything - anything that can go wrong will go wrong, as Murphy once coined.

                      But surely you can't be so foolish as to say there aren't perfectly working and profitable METHODS to playing various lottery games?... 

                      How could you possibly know, with certainty, that no working METHODS exist?

                      And can't one teach a METHOD to someone else?

                      Because don't METHODs have rules, too?

                      Are you just being semantic with all this? Smile

                      We have no dreams at all, or interesting ones. We should learn to be awake the same way—not at all, or in an interesting manner.   -- Friedrich Nietzsche

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                        Of the 159, 638 members registered here, 273 are logged in at this moment (7:16PM EST.)   As for the number of users who POST here per day, on average, only our fearless leader knows for sure as it would take a lot of time and bandwidth for mere mortals to calculate it. Does anyone ever wonder why, over all the years this site has existed, noone has posted a winning system, one that would have caused a mass exodus of players on their way to retirement into the ranks of "professional" lottery playsers?

                        Hey, now that you mention it. Why hasn't this been brought up before? 

                         

                           Maybe we're waiting for our big chance at a run. You know, to turn the table when that "Black Swan" descends.       

                         

                         

                        The only real failure .....is the failure to try.                               

                                                      Luck is a very rare thing....... Odds not so much. 

                                                      Odds never change .....but probability does. 

                                                                                                               Win d    


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                          Using covering tools to increase your number of small hits is NOT a "system."  As a safety precaution, you all should wear high quality football or motorcycle helmets as you continue searching for something that doesn't exist.  When that gets too uncomfortable, check out Epstein's book at your local library. (See my Signature.)

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                            Posted: October 3, 2014, 12:15 am - IP Logged

                            Hey, now that you mention it. Why hasn't this been brought up before? 

                             

                               Maybe we're waiting for our big chance at a run. You know, to turn the table when that "Black Swan" descends.       

                            Each one of us has already won 3 or 4 jackpots. We jetset around the world, basking on the best beaches sipping mai tais and margaritas while pretending to be lowly, downtrodden, worker bee, living droll, dreary lives of despair. In the rain.

                            Should not mention how much we laughed hearing jimmy admit he hangs out with nincompoops.

                            Rather telling. If it hangs with duck, its a duck. If it hangs with nincompoops.....

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                            My greatest accomplishment is teaching cats about Vienna Sausage. When I need a friend, all I need do is walk outside, pop open a can, and every little critter in the neighborhood drops by to say "Hi!"

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                              Hope Jimmy will always hangs around. I think he gives the joint class.  Thumbs Up 

                               I think I know where he is coming from. He's got too much on the ball not to eventually see some distinct value in these  "exercises."  We're not actually here trying to change or improve the " walking treadmill machine" itself.  The focus is something else. Something all together different. Some of the side effects include .... fun and entertainment. 

                               Some where along the way he will morph into a ready, steady asset ....he sort of already is. LOL 

                                                                           “There is remedy for all things... except death" - Don Quixote De La Mancha” 

                                                                                                                              “I come in a world of iron...to make a world of gold”

                                            Yes, I know he was mad.  LOL 

                               

                               

                              The only real failure .....is the failure to try.                               

                                                            Luck is a very rare thing....... Odds not so much. 

                                                            Odds never change .....but probability does. 

                                                                                                                     Win d    

                                 
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