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New Systems Forum just based on real stats and facts!

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How about a new Systems forum based on just "facts"

Yes [ 107 ]  [81.06%]
No [ 16 ]  [12.12%]
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Posted: May 17, 2014, 1:15 pm - IP Logged

"Who will decide"

Anyone can do anything to 3 or 4 digits and claim "it's a system", but can they explain why does it work and does it work consistently?

Let's add 1 to each pick-3 digit, subtract 1, use the same digits, and the mirror and we'll get 64 straight combos. We'll get about 2 hits a month (4 if we play both drawings) but after adding up the cost, we'll lose almost half of what we bet. We can get more hits playing the 64 combos boxed and maybe find enough hits for a tiny profit or use the "for online play" excuse. If they can't explain why it works, it's not a system.

It looks like you're saying the number predicting contest are getting in the way of system discussions in that forum. In the pick-3 Forum some of the posts made this morning are now on page 3 and maybe why some members are now using the Systems Forum to post pick-3 predictions.

I voted "Yes".

Many of this forums members repost my sytems after they learn how to use them.  Most are very easy to do and are based on roots etc of the p3 game.  They continue to show the method along with the results.  Alert to smart players is to bet with your budget in mind. Just because a wheel or sysytem gives you 64 picks it is not smart to spend that much to try and cover a bet.

Needycharlie is doing great with the numbers to thinkabout system and is helping other florida members as well.  This is what this forum  is meant to be, not ranting in circles about nothing.  Its a simple game why muddle it with percentages and discontent?

How about them cowboys!

 

 

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    lakerben's avatar - spherewall
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    Posted: May 17, 2014, 1:17 pm - IP Logged

    "Who will decide"

    Anyone can do anything to 3 or 4 digits and claim "it's a system", but can they explain why does it work and does it work consistently?

    Let's add 1 to each pick-3 digit, subtract 1, use the same digits, and the mirror and we'll get 64 straight combos. We'll get about 2 hits a month (4 if we play both drawings) but after adding up the cost, we'll lose almost half of what we bet. We can get more hits playing the 64 combos boxed and maybe find enough hits for a tiny profit or use the "for online play" excuse. If they can't explain why it works, it's not a system.

    It looks like you're saying the number predicting contest are getting in the way of system discussions in that forum. In the pick-3 Forum some of the posts made this morning are now on page 3 and maybe why some members are now using the Systems Forum to post pick-3 predictions.

    I voted "Yes".

    Many of this forums members repost my sytems after they learn how to use them.  Most are very easy to do and are based on roots etc of the p3 game.  They continue to show the method along with the results.  Alert to smart players is to bet with your budget in mind. Just because a wheel or system gives you 64 picks it is not smart to spend that much to try and cover a bet.

    Needycharlie is doing great with the numbers using the numbers to  thinkabout system and is helping other florida members as well.  This is what this forum  is meant to be, not ranting in circles about nothing.  Its a simple game why muddle it with percentages and discontent?

    How about them cowboys!

     

     

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      Posted: May 17, 2014, 1:52 pm - IP Logged

       Now that's funny and so revealing  !  Lakerbeen... What you just said up there ....says it all.     

       

               "  Its a simple game why muddle it with percentages and discontent?"

       

                                                      Muddle it up? ......with real stuff like.... percentages huh  ?   Sorry, we should be ashamed.  LOL 

       

                                          We will have to admit it then ......we have all been "muddling it up" for you.... with crazy stuff like that" LOL 

       

       

      The only real failure .....is the failure to try.                               

                                    Luck is a very rare thing....... Odds not so much. 

                                    Odds never change .....but probability does. 

                                                                                             Win d    

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        Posted: May 17, 2014, 2:16 pm - IP Logged

                   Why does this idea disturb you so much? We would leave you to do your thing.  We just want a little place where we can Muddle it up with all those Facts and Percentages without hurting your very "special" kind of sensitivity.   LOL            

         

                                                                   Why don't you do this?

             

                    Why don't you exile us to a new forum just for us crazy old ...."percentage muddlers" members?

         

                        We just can't stop using that crazy muddling stuff..... it's like you asking us to make bricks without straw!

                                                                    Let our people go lakerbeen .... 

         

         

        The only real failure .....is the failure to try.                               

                                      Luck is a very rare thing....... Odds not so much. 

                                      Odds never change .....but probability does. 

                                                                                               Win d    

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          Posted: May 17, 2014, 3:41 pm - IP Logged

          Many of this forums members repost my sytems after they learn how to use them.  Most are very easy to do and are based on roots etc of the p3 game.  They continue to show the method along with the results.  Alert to smart players is to bet with your budget in mind. Just because a wheel or system gives you 64 picks it is not smart to spend that much to try and cover a bet.

          Needycharlie is doing great with the numbers using the numbers to  thinkabout system and is helping other florida members as well.  This is what this forum  is meant to be, not ranting in circles about nothing.  Its a simple game why muddle it with percentages and discontent?

          a simple game?????Confused

          ...tell me you're kidding.

          "No matter how bad things may get, I'd like to thank my middle finger

          for always sticking up for me.."

           


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            Posted: May 17, 2014, 3:58 pm - IP Logged

            If people want to post systems or info based on stats and percentages in a special forum what is the harm. If Todd doesn't mind what is the problem. I find it kind of silly for people to go off on a rant about someone's system or idea if you don't like it don't use it. These people are just trying like everyone else  to find a winning way. Complaining and talking trash about other peoples ideas is a waste of time unless you have a better idea it's probably best to keep your opinion to yourself. I say you should thank the ones that try to help with systems or ideas whether it worsk or not just because they tried. Don't be ungrateful it will come back to bite you sooner or later. And please don't be haters the world has enough of those.

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            GOOD LUCK!!!! and GOOD DAY!!!! 


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              If people want to post systems or info based on stats and percentages in a special forum what is the harm. If Todd doesn't mind what is the problem. I find it kind of silly for people to go off on a rant about someone's system or idea if you don't like it don't use it. These people are just trying like everyone else  to find a winning way. Complaining and talking trash about other peoples ideas is a waste of time unless you have a better idea it's probably best to keep your opinion to yourself. I say you should thank the ones that try to help with systems or ideas whether it worsk or not just because they tried. Don't be ungrateful it will come back to bite you sooner or later. And please don't be haters the world has enough of those.

              But WIN D was the first to trash talk about systems that don't involve his percentages and facts, as If his method is the best way, and everyone else is just using Voodoo methods as a system.

              BTW WIN D, how has your methods worked for you over the years?

              I've seen your same old babble threads over the years about this group having so and so percentage of hitting, and that group has this probability using 12 different colors when writing. You haven't changed your schtick in 10 years.

              Most of us are already aware of the math and percentages. How many different ways can you rewrite the same story over and over again. It reminds me of Taco Bell, and how many different shapes they can mold from the same 5 ingredients, then giving it a different name.

              Yeah, I know, odd, evens, low, high, sums, percentages, probabilities, Two odds, one even, two even, one odd, how many times doubles show when a goat farts, 27.3% of the time a double will show from three months ago after 4 consecutive 0's The number 5 will show If 3 pairs of 7's show after a heavy rain storm...blah blah blah.

              Good luck!   lol

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                Percentages work just fine for me. I have my own and not just the standard ones.

                "You can observe a lot just by watching." Yogi Berra, Hall of Fame baseball player.

                The numbers will tell you what numbers to play. Pay attention to the numbers.

                Don't just think outside the box, crush it.

                  lakerben's avatar - spherewall
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                  But WIN D was the first to trash talk about systems that don't involve his percentages and facts, as If his method is the best way, and everyone else is just using Voodoo methods as a system.

                  BTW WIN D, how has your methods worked for you over the years?

                  I've seen your same old babble threads over the years about this group having so and so percentage of hitting, and that group has this probability using 12 different colors when writing. You haven't changed your schtick in 10 years.

                  Most of us are already aware of the math and percentages. How many different ways can you rewrite the same story over and over again. It reminds me of Taco Bell, and how many different shapes they can mold from the same 5 ingredients, then giving it a different name.

                  Yeah, I know, odd, evens, low, high, sums, percentages, probabilities, Two odds, one even, two even, one odd, how many times doubles show when a goat farts, 27.3% of the time a double will show from three months ago after 4 consecutive 0's The number 5 will show If 3 pairs of 7's show after a heavy rain storm...blah blah blah.

                  Good luck!   lol

                  I Agree!

                  How about them cowboys!

                   

                   

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                    Percentages work just fine for me. I have my own and not just the standard ones.

                    Good for you. Knowing doubles for example, has a 27% chance of showing in the p-3 does absolutely nothing for me as far as helping me to know what p-3 straight combo will show in Florida in tonight's draw.

                    Facts about the p-3's group percentages is only a guideline for beginners who aren't aware of how the game works, but for me, it doesn't help me at all. Those numbers are averages, meaning even though doubles show up about once every four draws on average, they can be MIA for 12 consecutive days. No help to me at all.  Same goes with overdue numbers, even worse.

                    In my opinion, studying the real time, short term behavior of the trend activity is worth a million bucks, if i can master it of course.

                    I only need to know the stats of the game only once. It's like saying 1+1=2 to myself, every time I begin a workout for the next draw. I only need to know 1+1=2 only once in my lifetime. Repeating 1+1=2 to myself before a workout does nothing in helping me predict the next winning draw.


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                      I Agree!

                      WIN D means well, but what irks me is whenever anyone, not just WIN D, comes along and acts as if they have a monopoly on what's best for everyone.

                      If that works for him, good for him.

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                        The word 'haters' is often thrown around and has lost its significance, is also a way to avoid dialogue, the intend of this forum. When a thread assert with the heading 'real stats and facts', it opens up questions. We all know probability and stats are two different concepts and its interpretation is fluid, I see no difference in a member using +1,-1 or 999 run down and someone quoting stat percentile in generating picks, their all subsetting or filtering (unless you wage all combos). The question is are you prepared to create your own data?, it will be interesting if, the author of this thread can come up with a new concept of stats different from what is already known.

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                          Good for you. Knowing doubles for example, has a 27% chance of showing in the p-3 does absolutely nothing for me as far as helping me to know what p-3 straight combo will show in Florida in tonight's draw.

                          Facts about the p-3's group percentages is only a guideline for beginners who aren't aware of how the game works, but for me, it doesn't help me at all. Those numbers are averages, meaning even though doubles show up about once every four draws on average, they can be MIA for 12 consecutive days. No help to me at all.  Same goes with overdue numbers, even worse.

                          In my opinion, studying the real time, short term behavior of the trend activity is worth a million bucks, if i can master it of course.

                          I only need to know the stats of the game only once. It's like saying 1+1=2 to myself, every time I begin a workout for the next draw. I only need to know 1+1=2 only once in my lifetime. Repeating 1+1=2 to myself before a workout does nothing in helping me predict the next winning draw.

                          Well said.  You can have every software under the sun that tells you this group of numbers or another is hot ,cold and a repeat number ,or one that is a longshot statistically hits.  Banking on percentages can be very expensive.

                          How about them cowboys!

                           

                           

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                            WIN D means well, but what irks me is whenever anyone, not just WIN D, comes along and acts as if they have a monopoly on what's best for everyone.

                            If that works for him, good for him.

                            Both you and lakerben are missing the point, Win D posts facts. For example look at the chart below. Win D tells you, if you see a state missing a double, 7 draws in-a-row, start playing doubles, if it doesn't hit by 10 draws in-a -row, stop. Notice not many draws go past 10. Other stats and facts he post, work also, a 50/50 filter works. I don't know about other people, but I want facts, not some hocus-pocus, roll the chicken bones.

                             


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                              Both you and lakerben are missing the point, Win D posts facts. For example look at the chart below. Win D tells you, if you see a state missing a double, 7 draws in-a-row, start playing doubles, if it doesn't hit by 10 draws in-a -row, stop. Notice not many draws go past 10. Other stats and facts he post, work also, a 50/50 filter works. I don't know about other people, but I want facts, not some hocus-pocus, roll the chicken bones.

                               

                              Which doubles and how many combos do I play?

                                 
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