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How about a new Systems forum based on just "facts"

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Hello WIN D,

I gave this thread 5 stars, because its a good poll that has sparked an interesting discussion. While I may have agreed with you depending on the reason behind your need to separate,  I voted "no", because you specifically feel you need to isolate your ideas from those you find unworthy of being in the same class as yours. To make a rough and hasty case for my vote, let me say that you, like me, are a product of your conditioning, and your particular conditioning says that "certain ideas"  about the lottery are not valid. Wouldn't you agree that you are not omniscient, and can concede that there may be a little or a lot that you can't see when it comes to "certain ideas"?. My conditioning shows me that both these "certain ideas", and yours are extremely valid.

Don't you see that there is no way that all ideas, methods and systems would not at least show some validity, albeit some "truth", concerning our lottery quest? This is so, because there is not a human being alive that doesn't ride the wave of the Unvarying Mean. I was going to devote a thread to talking about this, but in a nutshell, the Unvarying Mean has 2 sides, and it is that thing that says despite evidence to the contrary, we will never be too far a-field from the "truths" we seek, because the Intelligence of the Universe that birthed us, HUMS in every fiber of our being. This is the Inner Mean, and there in no way one can deviate too far from it. This intelligence knows how to harmoniously coordinate trillions of processes that occur per second in our bodies and in the universe. Think about that. No one is intrinsically stupid. This intelligence  has also given  human beings the innate ability to count, and not only count, but  wonderfully interpret the universe around us, which includes the lottery.

The Outer Mean is the idea, tool, technique, method or system  you use to go about finding the specific answers to your questions. There is no "bad" Outer Mean per se. They all connect or intersect along points of commonality. All roads are "good" ones, even though some can be more tenuous and winding than others, mostly because we usually don't see All of what the "road" is showing us. Your Outer Mean, WIN D, are Stats. For Onlymoney and Lakerben, its using simple numerical manipulations. Again, the logic of these manipulations may seem odd to you. They are not(much more to say on this and the "wisdom" of numbers, but trying to be mindful of thread drift). You just have to trust the Intelligence that they have embedded within them, for it guides them as well as it does you, while you all try to follow along as perfectly/imperfectly and as artfully/in-artfully as you can. You and they will never veer too far from using at least a decent Outer Mean, because the Inner Mean keeps you more or less tethered to "truth". In essence, your Outer Mean tool is an extension of the Inner Mean within you. The challenge is to harmonize them as consistently and as perfectly as we can. Then we can create sweet music, or like we've all been doing, at least a few good notes.

Lastly, I hope you can trust me when I say that when the some of these numerical manipulations are taken to their logical conclusions they are flawless in their predictions. The mountain that these Manipulations and your Stats have to climb is mutually shared. The mountain is called Timing, and in both cases, it is surmountable. The answer is present. I humbly think all answers for the lottery are Present in the Now. Can we see and grasp them is the challenge? As we know, revolutionary changes occur when men and women in their respective disciplines make a leap in thought and imagination. The answer was always there. These few people leaped to it.

May your numbers be true this day,

Kola

Legend says that The Craggy One was once asked about the Lottery Circle and the aged Lottery LoreKeeper whispered in his gravelly eloquence,"It is known among our kind that 2 successive draws are in reality the 2 center-points of 2 intersecting circles that share a common radius - a Root Center. This Vesica Piscis is the creative womb for all numbers, the Still Point from which two draws will unite & a new one is born. This "perfect" space is a wormhole through Time(Change). Master its proportions & your numerical predictions will not falter". 

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    A system and system idea are two different things.

    If you attach 3 - 6 months drawings and highlight where your idea won you can call it a system, but only if the total score was good enough, say min. 20% of your cost.

    You can attach a strategy as well, like playing only when certain conditions show up.

    You don't have a system if you find a certain relation between numbers within 10 drawings or so.

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      FACTS FORUM...WELL LETS START OFF WITH SOME FACTS AND NOT GUESS WORK...

       

      FACT # 1...there are 1000 combinations in pic 3...if you play all 1000 then the time it takes you to win is ONE DAY...anything you do after that meaning the amount of combos you play WILL INCREASE THE TIME into the future...

       

      FACT # 2...TO FIND THE FUTURE YOU HAVE TO USE THE PAST...and that is where all MATHEMATICIANS are wrong...and just about everyone here at LP can figure that one out on their own...THE MATH GUYS ARE wrong when they say the past has no bearing on the future...not only are they wrong...but they are ABSOLUTELY 100 % WRONG..!!!!!

       

      FACT # 3 ..I WILL STATE THIS as a FACT..but many will disagree with me on it...but that is ok...I KNOW I AM RIGHT...MATH CANNOT SOLVE RANDOM..since the LOTTERY IS A GAME built around RANDOM...MATH CANNOT SOLVE IT..

       

      FACT # 4  STATISTICS are a helpful tool when doing any type of GAMBLING..it is COMFORTING to know what the STATISTICS are on whatever game you are playing...THEY ARE HELPFUL...it does give you a idea of what to expect over a given time frame...

       

      FACT # 5 ALSO KNOWN AS A CONTRADICTION to FACT # 4... playing any lottery game STATISTICS may tell you an AVERAGE of some certain EVENT or numerical event within the game...for example..if STATISTICS SAYS THE AVERAGE of  event A happening 6 times in a 1000 number field...what is the problem with that info...well those 6 times could be the first 6...6 at the 1/4 point...6 at the half way point...6 at the 3/4 point..or could be all 6 at the end....I PREFER to know when those 6 are going to happen...TOOK ME QUITE A FEW YEARS TO ELIMINATE that problem but I did it...

       

      FACT # 6 EVERY LOTTERY IS A SCAM...they manipulate the draws to produce an outcome more favorable to them than the player...every gambling activity on this PLANET is on the next outcome...if you go to the casino and bet on anything it is the next outcome..you either win or lose...if you bet on a horse race...a dog race...on a football game..a baseball game { LIKE PETE ROSE DID} ..IF YOU bet on a BASKETBALL GAME..it is on the next outcome...you either win or lose...but NO NO..NOT THE LOTTERY..in TEXAS it is the 5th outcome...if TENAJ was right..in NORTH CAROLINA it is the 7th outcome...in POWERBALL it is the 5th outcome...MEGA MILLIONS I hear will not even tell you HOW MANY PRETEST DRAWS they do..imagine that..a PUBLIC GAME that TAKES MONEY from the public and then keeps their operations secret...that would be = to you wanting to invest in a PUBLIC COMPANY ON WALSTREET and that company tell you that all of our company information is private..how many investors would invest in that company...they take out all those ILLEGAL draws to destroy anything you found because numbers leave a trail to follow..and they have to destroy the TRAIL so you dont cost them any money...AND ALL OF THAT IS A FACT LADIES AND GENTLEMEN!!!!

       

      FACT #7 THE BIGGEST majority of the entire lottery playing world has no idea whatsoever on how NUMBER FIELDS work...how many people have asked you heh you..what do you like for tonight...give me a number for tonight...what do you like in pic 4 for tonight..you just as well give him that last 4 digits of your phone number..if they ask for a pic 3 number...give them a prefix  or the area code of your state...it will work just as good..why?....because in order to have any idea of what is coming you have to do some research of somekind...you NEED to know a little something about VARIABLES..what they are and how long it takes for them to show in whatever game you are playing...and the MAJORITY OF THE LOTTERY PLAYING PUBLIC has no idea in the world!!!!...AND THAT IS A FACT LADIES AND GENTLEMEN...

       

      FACT # 8 this is GOING TO CAUSE an argument...there is no SYSTEM out there {that is better than mine} and I can tell you why and how to check it...now if there HAD BEEN a system out there that actually worked..the LOTTERIES would have already gone broke...right now...when you take into consideration the population of a state...those over 18 that plays the lottery...compare that to the PAYOUTS for pic 3 and pic 4..then YOU WILL SEE THERE HAS NEVER BEEN NO SYSTEM out there,...{NOT YET} that has FLOODED THE MARKET...because the PAYOUTS in the pic 3 and pic 4 would increase probably by a factor of 5 or 10..then the lotteries would no something is up...RIGHT NOW...THE ONLY ABNORMAL PAYOUTS IS WHEN a triple shows...and the lotteries hate when they show...WHY...most people DOESNT DO ANY TYPE of research...they stop by the store in the morning  and get gas...cigs...a cup of coffee and tells the cashier..give me all 10 triples...

       

      FACT # 9 JUST BECAUSE some man or woman has a well known name doesnt mean they are the smartest ones in the research game...I would bet there are plenty of people here at LP that knows just as much as they do..just because you have the means to SPEND ALOT OF MONEY to buy more tickets than everyone else and you win a JACKPOT doesnt mean you have a GREAT SYSTEM...it means you can afford to buy more tickets than the average player...CASE IN POINT the man in FLORIDA..and I WOULD BET YOU MY ENTIRE SOCIAL SECURITY GAIL HOWARD AND STEVE PLAYER AS WELL..now STEVE HAS THE RIGHT LAST NAME FOR IS JOB...and I DO BELIEVE THAT fact #9 IS ABSOLUTELY 100% true!!!!

       

      FACT # 10 SYSTEMS...it is simple...if you have one or designed one..or BOUGHT ONE...then you should be able to go to any state..take that info and apply it in any state and WIN..no if's, and's, or but's about it...IT HAS TO WORK in any STATE at any time or you have not found anything...or what you bought DOES NOT WORK..if you ever hear well this works in this state but it doesnt work in the other state..WALK AWAY..or close your ears..you are about to get a load of you know what dropped on you...every pic 3 on planet earth has a 1000 number field...so if you find something...design something...buy something..it has to work in every state..every pic 3 game has the EXACT SAME NUMBERS..exact same variables running at the exact same time..although I WILL ADMIT the RNG'S do work a little different than the ball machines...I have noticed some differences and not for the good either...

       

      now this is WIND'S thread...but I wanted to post some FACTS on the THREAD since it called for some...there are others...I am sure any of you could probably add to the list yourself...but these were the ones I thought of just off the top of my head...good luck to all of you tonight...Terry

      Hello Lotterbraker,

      I always enjoy and appreciate the nuggets of knowledge you've given. Just a few comments...

      What follows is the opposite of what you stated in FACT #2, and according to you, cannot be true. I'm going to use math to find the future:  Jill was given 2 apples at 2:00 today, and will be given 3 apples two hours later. How many apples will Jill then have? She will have 5 apples in the future. My example is quite trivial, though accurate in substance. Lotterybraker, I promise you that it is even possible to predict future lottery drawings using math. I know that you feel this is absolutely wrong. Just entertain the possibility that you are not omniscient. There may be a few things that exist outside the sphere of your awareness.

      Regarding FACT #3, and assuming in general that the lottery is Not Random, let me assure you that math can solve the lottery. I've seen it done many, many times.

      As to FACT #6, I understand your point. Its a point shared by many, and while I see the merit in it, from my research it need not have any impact on predicting the lottery. Here's why: http://www.lotterypost.com/thread/270812/3440970

      Concerning FACT#7, many people who play the lottery in a studied fashion have an intuitive and even analytical understanding of number fields. It is true they may not have seen what you have noticed. Isn't it also true that you may not have seen the Rundown they've noticed?

      Now to FACT# 8. LOL, I run very far away from those "who have the best" or "who are the best" and who claim to "shine the brightest". I don't mind if someone says in their zeal that their method is "foolproof" or "guaranteed" or some other such term. I get that passion, but to say your system is the best is quite audacious. I'm sure you do a great job backing that claim up. But how do you know for sure its true? Lotterbraker, I know a fellow who can routinely hit the next draw while only using the last 2 draws, and he's only been studying the lottery for a relatively short period of time. His system works for any lottery. Is his system then better than yours? It may be way outside(I'm sure not too far) your sphere of awareness. Still, I'm sure this fellow would never say he has the best system. He has too much respect for the intelligence of others. He found a winning way, he automatically assumed some others had as well. The beauty of it is that, he doesn't think he's arrived yet. He's still open to other people's concepts/ideas and still digging. I hope and trust you are too. For all that you've seen borne through sweat, frustration, fatigue, and hard work, there is sill far, far more to discover...Be well...

      May your numbers be true this day,

      Kola

      Legend says that The Craggy One was once asked about the Lottery Circle and the aged Lottery LoreKeeper whispered in his gravelly eloquence,"It is known among our kind that 2 successive draws are in reality the 2 center-points of 2 intersecting circles that share a common radius - a Root Center. This Vesica Piscis is the creative womb for all numbers, the Still Point from which two draws will unite & a new one is born. This "perfect" space is a wormhole through Time(Change). Master its proportions & your numerical predictions will not falter". 

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        Posted: May 18, 2014, 7:15 am - IP Logged

        GA

        Drawing DatePick 3Pick 4
        MiddayEveningMiddayEvening
        Sat, May 17, 20142-9-09-0-5-8
        Fri, May 16, 20149-8-30-4-20-6-3-30-3-8-0
        Thu, May 15, 20141-7-22-2-44-2-6-91-0-6-8
        Wed, May 14, 20146-5-23-2-95-8-8-95-9-4-9
        Tue, May 13, 20145-1-69-6-25-4-6-01-3-6-0
        Mon, May 12, 20148-3-95-1-56-9-2-46-3-7-4
        Sun, May 11, 20145-1-75-9-49-6-7-50-0-4-7
        Sat, May 10, 20145-5-05-5-47-0-1-93-8-3-8
        Fri, May 9, 20148-9-57-5-85-3-2-67-5-2-3
        Thu, May 8, 20141-4-12-2-81-3-9-02-4-5-9
        Waging singles and doubles without stats  but triggers
        Draw 141     trigger 1,1         doubles 88-11-99 (81-89-),  hit 895, 
        draw  895     trigger 8,9          00-55-22          hit  550,554E
        draw   550      trigger 5,5        77-44-66             ??
        draw    517           x
        draw    839       8,9                  00-55-22    hit 652,224E, 290D
        draw   516        5,6                 77-44-66              ??
        draw 652          6,5                  77-44-66             ??
        77,44,66 are pending draws , the drive is 7,4
        check type E draws
        draw 228     trigger 2,2       doubles 88-11-99         ?? (still have 895  single
        draw  758     trigger 7,8     doubles  00-55-22  hit   554E,515E,550(D),224E
         draw  554    trigger  5,4     doubles 77-44-66        ??
        draw  594     trigger  5,4             77-44-66            ??
        Doubles 77-44-66 is still pending , likewise single 74,76,46
        Saying doubles occur % is not much in a random setting, triggers are less stressful.

        Show me where the 89, trigger pair hit 00,55,22 in the GaMid draws more than two time in the last year. I went thru the last years draws and only saw two hits. I could be wrong.

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          Show me where the 89, trigger pair hit 00,55,22 in the GaMid draws more than two time in the last year. I went thru the last years draws and only saw two hits. I could be wrong.

          Get  me the results  for one year for mid-day draws

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            Posted: May 18, 2014, 9:16 am - IP Logged

            Get  me the results  for one year for mid-day draws

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              Hello Lotterbraker,

              I always enjoy and appreciate the nuggets of knowledge you've given. Just a few comments...

              What follows is the opposite of what you stated in FACT #2, and according to you, cannot be true. I'm going to use math to find the future:  Jill was given 2 apples at 2:00 today, and will be given 3 apples two hours later. How many apples will Jill then have? She will have 5 apples in the future. My example is quite trivial, though accurate in substance. Lotterybraker, I promise you that it is even possible to predict future lottery drawings using math. I know that you feel this is absolutely wrong. Just entertain the possibility that you are not omniscient. There may be a few things that exist outside the sphere of your awareness.

              Regarding FACT #3, and assuming in general that the lottery is Not Random, let me assure you that math can solve the lottery. I've seen it done many, many times.

              As to FACT #6, I understand your point. Its a point shared by many, and while I see the merit in it, from my research it need not have any impact on predicting the lottery. Here's why: http://www.lotterypost.com/thread/270812/3440970

              Concerning FACT#7, many people who play the lottery in a studied fashion have an intuitive and even analytical understanding of number fields. It is true they may not have seen what you have noticed. Isn't it also true that you may not have seen the Rundown they've noticed?

              Now to FACT# 8. LOL, I run very far away from those "who have the best" or "who are the best" and who claim to "shine the brightest". I don't mind if someone says in their zeal that their method is "foolproof" or "guaranteed" or some other such term. I get that passion, but to say your system is the best is quite audacious. I'm sure you do a great job backing that claim up. But how do you know for sure its true? Lotterbraker, I know a fellow who can routinely hit the next draw while only using the last 2 draws, and he's only been studying the lottery for a relatively short period of time. His system works for any lottery. Is his system then better than yours? It may be way outside(I'm sure not too far) your sphere of awareness. Still, I'm sure this fellow would never say he has the best system. He has too much respect for the intelligence of others. He found a winning way, he automatically assumed some others had as well. The beauty of it is that, he doesn't think he's arrived yet. He's still open to other people's concepts/ideas and still digging. I hope and trust you are too. For all that you've seen borne through sweat, frustration, fatigue, and hard work, there is sill far, far more to discover...Be well...

              May your numbers be true this day,

              Kola

              Hello Kola...the example you gave is not correct ...and I dont mean that in a MEAN way of saying it...because the example you gave deals with ALL CONSTANTS...you gave an example of CONSTANT TIME...OR A SPECIFIC time..which really is not important at all..but the REAL MISTAKE is the VALUES you gave..not the first one that you already new...but the AUTOMATIC VALUE that was given to the TWO HOURS LATER..that would be = to saying FLORIDA GOT 345 AT midday and at 7:30 florida is going to get 567...you cant asign a value or anything to a RANDOM event...and again..THE LOTTERY IS RANDOM...if it wasnt...then everyone would know what was going to pop out before they even drew the numbers...

               

              when the BALLS are in the HOPPER sitting still or moving it automatically becomes RANDOM..if it wasnt..then some bright MATHEMATICIAN somewhere would have found a formula to know what is coming on sunday night, monday night..tuesday night and every night...and you know as well as I do..there are 43 STATES that have lottery drawings...and in every single one of those STATES I will bet you all the money you have that every MATHEMATICIAN in those STATES have racked their brains trying to apply some formula that they had to learn to get their degree , WHICH WAS THOUGHT OF BY SOMEONE ELSE in most cases the formulas I mean...and none of them has worked..you know they have tried to find one for it...that is almost a given...like people who work in candy stores eats their own candy..so I dont know why you would assume in general that the lottery is not random...the easiest answer would be..if its not random...could you tell me what the POWERBALL numbers will be wednesday night so I can go buy me a ticket..because IF THE LOTTERY ISNT RANDOM then you are someone should know whats coming out wednesday night...

               

              HERE is a little help on the using the past to find the future..lets start on MAY 7th..not to far back..just a little ways..now..do you see in THE FIRST POSITION a digit 4,9,3,8, and 6...now if there are 10 possibilities..whats missing AND HAS TO SHOW IN THE FUTURE...

               

              Wed, May 7, 2014FloridaCash 3 Evening4-2-3
              Wed, May 7, 2014FloridaCash 3 Midday9-6-7
              Tue, May 6, 2014FloridaCash 3 Midday3-3-2
              Tue, May 6, 2014FloridaCash 3 Evening8-8-0
              Mon, May 5, 2014FloridaCash 3 Evening6-0-5

               

              NOW WHAT IS MISSING...0,1,2,5 AND 7...5 numbers missing from the first position that has to show in the future...

              Sun, May 11, 2014FloridaCash 3 Midday7-4-3
              Sat, May 10, 2014FloridaCash 3 Midday5-1-7
              Sat, May 10, 2014FloridaCash 3 Evening1-4-2
              Fri, May 9, 2014FloridaCash 3 Evening0-9-4
              Fri, May 9, 2014FloridaCash 3 Midday2-3-9
              Thu, May 8, 2014FloridaCash 3 Midday9-6-2
              Thu, May 8, 2014FloridaCash 3 Evening0-5-5

              AND THERE IS YOUR 0,1,2,5 AND 7..all present and accounted for..we USED THE PAST to find what was missing then found it in the future...and that is the easiest way to show how that works...

               

              AND AS FAR AS SYSTEMS goes...yeah..I am a little BIAS towards mine..thats only because I KNOW WHAT I find in my runs is going to show...unless I make a mistake..which has happened many times I might add...when dealing with a LARGE AMOUNT OF NUMBERS that I normally am working with, mistakes will be made..I am only human...because USUALLY WHEN I MAKE a run and post it in the forums...MOST of the time I WILL MAKE those runs or try to anyway, for every state there is to help everyone..

              WELL..I couldnt fix your car if it broke down..NEVER WANTED TO LEARN HOW TO BE A MECHANIC...I need to learn though...I couldnt do any Medical procedures on you either ..I dont know how...although I could hook you up with an ACE BANDAGE..or a BAND-AID...lol....so I am less than "ALL KNOWING"...BUT when it comes to NUMBER FIELDS...I am not "ALL KNOWING EITHER"...but I dam close...hahaha

              "Attention all Mathematicians: Check your degree at the door because when it comes to whole numbers you are the Amateur"

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                Show me where the 89, trigger pair hit 00,55,22 in the GaMid draws more than two time in the last year. I went thru the last years draws and only saw two hits. I could be wrong.

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                ateDrawNumbers
                05-17-2014Evening6 6 4

                trigger

                pairs

                doubles
                05-17-2014Midday2 9 0
                05-16-2014Evening0 4 2
                05-16-2014Midday9 8 398
                05-15-2014Evening2 2 422
                05-15-2014Midday1 7 2
                05-14-2014Evening3 2 9
                05-14-2014Midday6 5 2
                05-13-2014Evening9 6 2
                05-13-2014Midday5 1 6
                05-12-2014Evening5 1 555
                05-12-2014Midday8 3 989
                05-11-2014Evening5 9 4
                05-11-2014Midday5 1 7
                05-10-2014Evening5 5 455
                05-10-2014Midday5 5 055
                05-09-2014Evening7 5 878
                05-09-2014Midday8 9 589
                05-08-2014Evening2 2 822
                05-08-2014Midday1 4 1
                05-07-2014Evening0 9 999
                05-07-2014Midday4 6 3
                05-06-2014Evening6 7 5
                05-06-2014Midday3 8 0
                05-05-2014Evening5 0 6
                05-05-2014Midday4 1 3
                05-04-2014Evening4 2 222
                05-04-2014Midday2 0 9
                05-03-2014Evening7 2 6
                05-03-2014Midday5 5 255
                05-02-2014Evening7 8 478
                05-02-2014Midday8 2 5
                05-01-2014Evening4 1 8
                05-01-2014Midday3 4 4
                04-30-2014Evening6 9 5
                04-30-2014Midday5 9 797
                04-29-2014Evening8 3 1
                04-29-2014Midday0 4 9
                04-28-2014Evening1 7 5
                04-28-2014Midday2 4 5
                04-27-2014Evening7 4 0
                04-27-2014Midday1 6 6
                04-26-2014Evening8 7 087
                04-26-2014Midday8 9 589
                04-25-2014Evening7 2 0
                04-25-2014Midday8 0 000
                04-24-2014Evening2 4 1
                04-24-2014Midday8 9 189
                04-23-2014Evening5 6 8
                04-23-2014Midday5 0 4
                04-22-2014Evening7 3 9
                04-22-2014Midday9 9 599
                04-21-2014Evening9 8 298
                04-21-2014Midday2 5 6
                04-20-2014Evening5 9 6
                04-20-2014Midday4 8 1
                04-19-2014Evening4 7 2
                04-19-2014Midday4 2 8
                04-18-2014Evening4 8 989
                04-18-2014Midday9 4 3
                04-17-2014Evening3 9 3
                04-17-2014Midday0 9 6

                Trigger 8,9,7(a pair within 7 thru 9) >doubles 00-55-22

                 

                 

                 

                 

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                  Never mind, why are you showing eve draws? Are you saying if the 89 pair hits in mid draw it triggers the eve draw?

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                    My observation has been watching the same day of the previous weeks draws seem to have at least 2 of the drawn numbers from this weeks. Maybe someone can pick this up and do a test using this criteria to see if they see the same as I.Maybe come up with a spreadsheet to analyze those and predict the next draw. Just a thought for digestion. Do a backtest using both mid and eve draws.If everyone adds a little fuel to the fire who knows. thanks.BananaSee Ya!

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                      Hello Kola...the example you gave is not correct ...and I dont mean that in a MEAN way of saying it...because the example you gave deals with ALL CONSTANTS...you gave an example of CONSTANT TIME...OR A SPECIFIC time..which really is not important at all..but the REAL MISTAKE is the VALUES you gave..not the first one that you already new...but the AUTOMATIC VALUE that was given to the TWO HOURS LATER..that would be = to saying FLORIDA GOT 345 AT midday and at 7:30 florida is going to get 567...you cant asign a value or anything to a RANDOM event...and again..THE LOTTERY IS RANDOM...if it wasnt...then everyone would know what was going to pop out before they even drew the numbers...

                       

                      when the BALLS are in the HOPPER sitting still or moving it automatically becomes RANDOM..if it wasnt..then some bright MATHEMATICIAN somewhere would have found a formula to know what is coming on sunday night, monday night..tuesday night and every night...and you know as well as I do..there are 43 STATES that have lottery drawings...and in every single one of those STATES I will bet you all the money you have that every MATHEMATICIAN in those STATES have racked their brains trying to apply some formula that they had to learn to get their degree , WHICH WAS THOUGHT OF BY SOMEONE ELSE in most cases the formulas I mean...and none of them has worked..you know they have tried to find one for it...that is almost a given...like people who work in candy stores eats their own candy..so I dont know why you would assume in general that the lottery is not random...the easiest answer would be..if its not random...could you tell me what the POWERBALL numbers will be wednesday night so I can go buy me a ticket..because IF THE LOTTERY ISNT RANDOM then you are someone should know whats coming out wednesday night...

                       

                      HERE is a little help on the using the past to find the future..lets start on MAY 7th..not to far back..just a little ways..now..do you see in THE FIRST POSITION a digit 4,9,3,8, and 6...now if there are 10 possibilities..whats missing AND HAS TO SHOW IN THE FUTURE...

                       

                      Wed, May 7, 2014FloridaCash 3 Evening4-2-3
                      Wed, May 7, 2014FloridaCash 3 Midday9-6-7
                      Tue, May 6, 2014FloridaCash 3 Midday3-3-2
                      Tue, May 6, 2014FloridaCash 3 Evening8-8-0
                      Mon, May 5, 2014FloridaCash 3 Evening6-0-5

                       

                      NOW WHAT IS MISSING...0,1,2,5 AND 7...5 numbers missing from the first position that has to show in the future...

                      Sun, May 11, 2014FloridaCash 3 Midday7-4-3
                      Sat, May 10, 2014FloridaCash 3 Midday5-1-7
                      Sat, May 10, 2014FloridaCash 3 Evening1-4-2
                      Fri, May 9, 2014FloridaCash 3 Evening0-9-4
                      Fri, May 9, 2014FloridaCash 3 Midday2-3-9
                      Thu, May 8, 2014FloridaCash 3 Midday9-6-2
                      Thu, May 8, 2014FloridaCash 3 Evening0-5-5

                      AND THERE IS YOUR 0,1,2,5 AND 7..all present and accounted for..we USED THE PAST to find what was missing then found it in the future...and that is the easiest way to show how that works...

                       

                      AND AS FAR AS SYSTEMS goes...yeah..I am a little BIAS towards mine..thats only because I KNOW WHAT I find in my runs is going to show...unless I make a mistake..which has happened many times I might add...when dealing with a LARGE AMOUNT OF NUMBERS that I normally am working with, mistakes will be made..I am only human...because USUALLY WHEN I MAKE a run and post it in the forums...MOST of the time I WILL MAKE those runs or try to anyway, for every state there is to help everyone..

                      WELL..I couldnt fix your car if it broke down..NEVER WANTED TO LEARN HOW TO BE A MECHANIC...I need to learn though...I couldnt do any Medical procedures on you either ..I dont know how...although I could hook you up with an ACE BANDAGE..or a BAND-AID...lol....so I am less than "ALL KNOWING"...BUT when it comes to NUMBER FIELDS...I am not "ALL KNOWING EITHER"...but I dam close...hahaha

                      Hi Lotterybraker, like I said, the example was trivial. My main point is that Time is the constant, and as long as  2 variables are known, you can do some great predicting. As you imply, and I do agree, one known variable or rather using one draw by itself is not enough information. To scratch the surface of an expansive topic, I'll just say that you can begin to asses or predict an event when at least 2 variables or rather 2 draws are known. When you have 2 draws, it forms a relationship, and it's through a Relationship that you can know a thing. For example, you can only know if someone or something is short, tall, loud, honest, and etcetera, only by what's its in relation to it. It provides context. So 2 draws form a relationship, like a line connecting 2 points in space. When you add a 3rd point, it creates a triangle. Any 3 points anywhere on the planet will create a triangle. Simplistically, and crudely said, if you have 2 points or rather 2 draws, you can find the third, because the geometric truth of the triangle posits that all 3 points or draws exist in a bound relationship to one another. Yes, there are real world applications of geometry even in the lottery, and it's congruent with any other good idea, technique, method, and system. 

                      You also don't have to worry about bins, pre-tests, and etcetera, because the draw that is drawn, in a manner of speaking, already has all that pre-test, bin and etcetera stuff   "embedded" into it. Whatever happens in  the Field of All Events is registered by everything in that field. It's all energy anyway. Differentiated yes, but still One Field Energy. So in essence, any draw that occurs in the Field of All Events has already registered all "energetic disturbances" like pre-tests. Furthermore, the fact that all these actual draws take place periodically, the clock-work further solidifies that you don't have to worry about what happens before, around, after and between draws. Yes, there are lines that connect pre-draws to actual draws, but you don't have to worry about those lines, unless you want to drive yourself Mad. LOL. The line that connects one draw to another at the times of the actual draws is the only one you have to concern yourself with. Some of the simple physics, and mathematical "truisms"  like the line/triangle for example need not be inert ideas, but can be used along with other Ideas/facts from subjects like history, philosophy, mythology, knitting and many others, as conceptual foundations to help us look at the lottery anew. Let us keep on re-conceptualizing, and re-contextualizing. Anyway...

                      Lotterybraker, not too long ago, I responded to LP member when I wrote,  "I promise you that (the lottery is not random) is not a game of chance. While not ruling out the occasional quantum spillage, probabilities of Chance would only occur in the quantum gaps before it visually manifests. "Chance" collapses into that which nearly most things on earth are beholden - Cause and Effect". And yes, even car accidents. I don't believe we live in deterministic universe per se, but with regards to our time-space (turn of phrase used because time dominates) reality to again quote evolutionary biologist Rupert Sheldrake, "nature has a habit of being habitual".

                      I do hope your exploration into large number fields implies to you that the lottery is not random. In order to find the next winning draw, I submit to you that these number fields can be reduced by just looking at 2 past sequential draws(by the way all draws are sequenced for you can use the draw that fell a few days ago, and one that fell last night, to find the next draw. They may be a tad less accurate because they are further away from the present). Again, these two draws hold all the info you need about what's been drawn, and what will be drawn. At least that's what this fellow I mention says. He uses math to solve the timing issue, and so he can routinely hit the next Pick 3 draw, with a relatively small pool of numbers. One doesn't have to use math though. To circle back to the topic of WIN D's thread, ALL APPROACHES ARE VALID. 

                      May your numbers be true this day,

                      Kola

                      Legend says that The Craggy One was once asked about the Lottery Circle and the aged Lottery LoreKeeper whispered in his gravelly eloquence,"It is known among our kind that 2 successive draws are in reality the 2 center-points of 2 intersecting circles that share a common radius - a Root Center. This Vesica Piscis is the creative womb for all numbers, the Still Point from which two draws will unite & a new one is born. This "perfect" space is a wormhole through Time(Change). Master its proportions & your numerical predictions will not falter". 


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                        WELL..I happen to know more than you..so...maybe you should leave it where it is...!!!!!

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                          GA>Mid-day

                          ateDrawNumbers
                          05-17-2014Evening6 6 4

                          trigger

                          pairs

                          doubles
                          05-17-2014Midday2 9 0
                          05-16-2014Evening0 4 2
                          05-16-2014Midday9 8 398
                          05-15-2014Evening2 2 422
                          05-15-2014Midday1 7 2
                          05-14-2014Evening3 2 9
                          05-14-2014Midday6 5 2
                          05-13-2014Evening9 6 2
                          05-13-2014Midday5 1 6
                          05-12-2014Evening5 1 555 Hyper
                          05-12-2014Midday8 3 989
                          05-11-2014Evening5 9 4
                          05-11-2014Midday5 1 7
                          05-10-2014Evening5 5 455
                          05-10-2014Midday5 5 055Hyper
                          05-09-2014Evening7 5 878
                          05-09-2014Midday8 9 589
                          05-08-2014Evening2 2 822
                          05-08-2014Midday1 4 1
                          05-07-2014Evening0 9 999
                          05-07-2014Midday4 6 3
                          05-06-2014Evening6 7 5
                          05-06-2014Midday3 8 0
                          05-05-2014Evening5 0 6
                          05-05-2014Midday4 1 3
                          05-04-2014Evening4 2 222
                          05-04-2014Midday2 0 9
                          05-03-2014Evening7 2 6
                          05-03-2014Midday5 5 255Hyper
                          05-02-2014Evening7 8 478
                          05-02-2014Midday8 2 5
                          05-01-2014Evening4 1 8
                          05-01-2014Midday3 4 4
                          04-30-2014Evening6 9 5
                          04-30-2014Midday5 9 797
                          04-29-2014Evening8 3 1
                          04-29-2014Midday0 4 9
                          04-28-2014Evening1 7 5
                          04-28-2014Midday2 4 5
                          04-27-2014Evening7 4 0
                          04-27-2014Midday1 6 6
                          04-26-2014Evening8 7 087
                          04-26-2014Midday8 9 589
                          04-25-2014Evening7 2 0
                          04-25-2014Midday8 0 000Hyper
                          04-24-2014Evening2 4 1
                          04-24-2014Midday8 9 189
                          04-23-2014Evening5 6 8
                          04-23-2014Midday5 0 4
                          04-22-2014Evening7 3 9
                          04-22-2014Midday9 9 599
                          04-21-2014Evening9 8 298
                          04-21-2014Midday2 5 6
                          04-20-2014Evening5 9 6
                          04-20-2014Midday4 8 1
                          04-19-2014Evening4 7 2
                          04-19-2014Midday4 2 8
                          04-18-2014Evening4 8 989
                          04-18-2014Midday9 4 3
                          04-17-2014Evening3 9 3
                          04-17-2014Midday0 9 6

                          Trigger 8,9,7(a pair within 7 thru 9) >doubles 00-55-22

                           

                           adobea78

                          I would say this:

                          First of all, this is too short period of time for this strategy to rate it properly.

                          What I can see, there are 32 skips and 4 winnings here?

                          You play 3 doubles until you win, then you wait for a pair from 7, 8 , 9, start playing next time again and so on.

                           

                          For this period of time, total cost (box play):

                          32 plays x $ 27 = -864

                           

                          Winnings:

                          4 x $ 300 = 1200  online play,  Profit: $ 336

                          or:

                          4 x 160 = $ 640 local play,  Loss:  $ -224

                           

                          In this period of time, you had 14 /60 or 23% doubles which is about an average, but could be much worse at some other times.

                          Generally, a double skip (any double, not only yours) is very often between 10 and 20.

                          If that has happened in this period of time, you would have less then half of 14 doubles (any doubles, not only yours).

                           

                          If my math is right, I don't see anything special about this idea.

                          I don't think playing only doubles is a good idea.

                          It's a very stressful and uncertain strategy.

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                            GA>Mid-day

                            ateDrawNumbers
                            05-17-2014Evening6 6 4

                            trigger

                            pairs

                            doubles
                            05-17-2014Midday2 9 0
                            05-16-2014Evening0 4 2
                            05-16-2014Midday9 8 398
                            05-15-2014Evening2 2 422
                            05-15-2014Midday1 7 2
                            05-14-2014Evening3 2 9
                            05-14-2014Midday6 5 2
                            05-13-2014Evening9 6 2
                            05-13-2014Midday5 1 6
                            05-12-2014Evening5 1 555 Hyper
                            05-12-2014Midday8 3 989
                            05-11-2014Evening5 9 4
                            05-11-2014Midday5 1 7
                            05-10-2014Evening5 5 455
                            05-10-2014Midday5 5 055Hyper
                            05-09-2014Evening7 5 878
                            05-09-2014Midday8 9 589
                            05-08-2014Evening2 2 822
                            05-08-2014Midday1 4 1
                            05-07-2014Evening0 9 999
                            05-07-2014Midday4 6 3
                            05-06-2014Evening6 7 5
                            05-06-2014Midday3 8 0
                            05-05-2014Evening5 0 6
                            05-05-2014Midday4 1 3
                            05-04-2014Evening4 2 222
                            05-04-2014Midday2 0 9
                            05-03-2014Evening7 2 6
                            05-03-2014Midday5 5 255Hyper
                            05-02-2014Evening7 8 478
                            05-02-2014Midday8 2 5
                            05-01-2014Evening4 1 8
                            05-01-2014Midday3 4 4
                            04-30-2014Evening6 9 5
                            04-30-2014Midday5 9 797
                            04-29-2014Evening8 3 1
                            04-29-2014Midday0 4 9
                            04-28-2014Evening1 7 5
                            04-28-2014Midday2 4 5
                            04-27-2014Evening7 4 0
                            04-27-2014Midday1 6 6
                            04-26-2014Evening8 7 087
                            04-26-2014Midday8 9 589
                            04-25-2014Evening7 2 0
                            04-25-2014Midday8 0 000Hyper
                            04-24-2014Evening2 4 1
                            04-24-2014Midday8 9 189
                            04-23-2014Evening5 6 8
                            04-23-2014Midday5 0 4
                            04-22-2014Evening7 3 9
                            04-22-2014Midday9 9 599
                            04-21-2014Evening9 8 298
                            04-21-2014Midday2 5 6
                            04-20-2014Evening5 9 6
                            04-20-2014Midday4 8 1
                            04-19-2014Evening4 7 2
                            04-19-2014Midday4 2 8
                            04-18-2014Evening4 8 989
                            04-18-2014Midday9 4 3
                            04-17-2014Evening3 9 3
                            04-17-2014Midday0 9 6

                            Trigger 8,9,7(a pair within 7 thru 9) >doubles 00-55-22

                             

                             adobea78

                            I would say this:

                            First of all, this is too short period of time for this strategy to rate it properly.

                            What I can see, there are 32 skips and 4 winnings here?

                            You play 3 doubles until you win, then you wait for a pair from 7, 8 , 9, start playing next time again and so on.

                             

                            For this period of time, total cost (box play):

                            32 plays x $ 27 = -864

                             

                            Winnings:

                            4 x $ 300 = 1200  online play,  Profit: $ 336

                            or:

                            4 x 160 = $ 640 local play,  Loss:  $ -224

                             

                            In this period of time, you had 14 /60 or 23% doubles which is about an average, but could be much worse at some other times.

                            Generally, a double skip (any double, not only yours) is very often between 10 and 20.

                            If that has happened in this period of time, you would have less then half of 14 doubles (any doubles, not only yours).

                             

                            If my math is right, I don't see anything special about this idea.

                            I don't think playing only doubles is a good idea.

                            It's a very stressful and uncertain strategy.

                            The  SNAP  test was how to locate doubles using triggers instead of stat percentile, waging strategy is another discussion.

                            http://www.lotterypost.com/thread/274171

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                              The  SNAP  test was how to locate doubles using triggers instead of stat percentile, waging strategy is another discussion.

                              http://www.lotterypost.com/thread/274171

                              If you played only two times after a pair from (7,8,9) you would make much more, but another test must be done for a year or so at other states as well.

                                 
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