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How about a new Systems forum based on just "facts"

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 Hmmm .........this is all too familiar from these 2 .......posters. 

 These are the same old selfish people going on and on and on. Dominating the subject here and over everyone else's right to speak.

 It's America....and it's supposed to be One VOTE per person.  You both shot your little wads already! You're both doing what people are sick off. You are both "Machine gun posting over and over"  We got it ...you're "agin" it.  We got it. We have had it.  Several times over. 

 Now.....move over and let this vote take place for other members. Let it go......and without you 2 twinkies ....... spewing all over everyone else trying to vote and post something of interest.  Really, that's enough.

 I am glad that both of you got a chance to showcase who you are...... I think some folks were still giving you the benefit of the doubt.  LOL

 

 

The only real failure .....is the failure to try.                               

                              Luck is a very rare thing....... Odds not so much. 

                              Odds never change .....but probability does. 

                                                                                       Win d    

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    Posted: May 17, 2014, 5:19 pm - IP Logged

    Which doubles and how many combos do I play?

    You have to decide that, track your state or states.


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      Which doubles and how many combos do I play?

      Also, those are just basic stats that have wide margins of error. Nothing to write home about. Trust me, I've dealt with this stuff since 1989. I've seen it all, and my conclusion is that it all comes back full circle, meaning all those meticulous workouts that require 10 hours of studying have the same possibility as a simple adding or subtracting workout, or something similar.

      There's a common denominator or thread that determines a winning combo, no matter how complex or simple. I stopped wracking my brain years ago, it's a waste of time pouring over hundreds of angles only to come head to head in choosing what filters to use to reduce the cost. And then using the filters only increases the chance of taking away the winning combo. So after all that turmoil and wringing of the hands, I found out there's a simple way, and i will find it.

      Remember the size of the first IBM computer? it was the size of a large room and only calculated 1+1.

      You can use long division, or the short version, they both have the same outcome.


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        You have to decide that, track your state or states.

        I guess we're back to square one huh?

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          Posted: May 17, 2014, 5:30 pm - IP Logged

          You have to decide that, track your state or states.

           Don't bother with em' Bobby......not worth it. They don't understand any of it. They never will. 

           Don't get me wrong .....I really don't want them to wake up. Hopefully, they will both keep on being in that as-ynchronous orbit !    LOL 

           

           

          The only real failure .....is the failure to try.                               

                                        Luck is a very rare thing....... Odds not so much. 

                                        Odds never change .....but probability does. 

                                                                                                 Win d    

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            I guess we're back to square one huh?

            No, we aren't, you need to use the information he gives you and research. Win D only post Ga.


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               Hmmm .........this is all too familiar from these 2 .......posters. 

               These are the same old selfish people going on and on and on. Dominating the subject here and over everyone else's right to speak.

               It's America....and it's supposed to be One VOTE per person.  You both shot your little wads already! You're both doing what people are sick off. You are both "Machine gun posting over and over"  We got it ...you're "agin" it.  We got it. We have had it.  Several times over. 

               Now.....move over and let this vote take place for other members. Let it go......and without you 2 twinkies ....... spewing all over everyone else trying to vote and post something of interest.  Really, that's enough.

               I am glad that both of you got a chance to showcase who you are...... I think some folks were still giving you the benefit of the doubt.  LOL

              You're right. I've already wasted too much of my precious time debating about something I learned back in 1989 when I first started studying the p-3. But thanks for the useless info though.

              Good luck to you.


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                No, we aren't, you need to use the information he gives you and research. Win D only post Ga.

                Oh ok, thanks. I'll research. You two have been such an invaluable addition to my arsenal.

                Green laughLooks like I've been researching in all the wrong places.

                Oh boy !

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                  Posted: May 17, 2014, 5:38 pm - IP Logged

                   Don't bother with em' Bobby......not worth it. They don't understand any of it. They never will. 

                   Don't get me wrong .....I really don't want them to wake up. Hopefully, they will both keep on being in that as-ynchronous orbit !    LOL 

                  You really have a condescending attitude , a sign of a close-mind!

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                    You're right. I've already wasted too much of my precious time debating about something I learned back in 1989 when I first started studying the p-3. But thanks for the useless info though.

                    Good luck to you.

                     We are right..... and you call that a debate? Get real ....that was no debate.     .......and your precious time?  Here's a raisin. LOL 

                             That was an  intrusion into a vote and a forum poll...by a couple of crude forum bully's. 

                     

                                                                                                                  End of demonstration.

                     

                     

                    The only real failure .....is the failure to try.                               

                                                  Luck is a very rare thing....... Odds not so much. 

                                                  Odds never change .....but probability does. 

                                                                                                           Win d    


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                       We are right..... and you call that a debate? Get real ....that was no debate.     .......and your precious time?  Here's a raisin. LOL 

                               That was an  intrusion into a vote and a forum poll...by a couple of crude forum bully's. 

                       

                                                                                                                    End of demonstration.

                      Stop whining already. Maybe you should think first before you open your mouth, trash talking about other people's method as garbage and get off your high horse.

                      If you're not making a living off the p-3, or are light years in the black, and can prove it, it's all just a bunch of worthless mumbo jumbo statistics lingo.

                      Prove to me how better your method is against any other by posting predictions, and then I'll kiss your a$$. Until then, it's all just hype about how great you are. You're a misguided blowhard who's a legend in his own delusional mind.

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                        Posted: May 17, 2014, 5:52 pm - IP Logged

                        I like the idea of using scientifically and statistical methods to develop systems.

                        It will be much easier to understand the background behind these systems.

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                          Both you and lakerben are missing the point, Win D posts facts. For example look at the chart below. Win D tells you, if you see a state missing a double, 7 draws in-a-row, start playing doubles, if it doesn't hit by 10 draws in-a -row, stop. Notice not many draws go past 10. Other stats and facts he post, work also, a 50/50 filter works. I don't know about other people, but I want facts, not some hocus-pocus, roll the chicken bones.

                           

                          Do you really need tracking and stats to play doubles? why  not just look up for triggers irrespective of stats or sums?

                          see this IND data, waging doubles depends on recurrent concept!

                          Drawing DatePick 3Pick 4
                          MiddayEveningMiddayEvening
                          Sat, May 17, 20143-3-39-5-1-8
                          Fri, May 16, 20142-1-19-9-06-1-3-85-2-2-3
                          Thu, May 15, 20145-7-06-4-54-9-0-40-1-8-9
                          Wed, May 14, 20142-6-10-1-66-2-1-41-0-8-7
                          Tue, May 13, 20141-1-71-9-08-1-8-48-5-0-8
                          Mon, May 12, 20149-1-30-8-03-8-4-89-4-5-1
                          Sun, May 11, 20142-6-93-4-8-2
                          Sat, May 10, 20146-2-70-0-32-7-2-55-8-0-3
                          Fri, May 9, 20149-6-31-7-06-5-6-79-2-2-5
                          Thu, May 8, 20146-9-05-6-97-5-8-22-2-6-5

                          draw 569 has trigger 5,6 f or doubles 77,44,66

                          draw 170 has trigger 1,0  for doubles 88,11,99.

                          draw 003 has trigger 0,3 for doubles 88,11,99

                          draw 080 has trigger 0,0 for doubles 88,11,99

                          After 4 draw sets (type E), my pending doubles are 88x,x88, 11x,x11, 99x,x99

                          check type D draws

                          draw 690           no trigger

                          963                   no trigger

                          627                  no trigger

                          913                  1,3                  doubles 88,11,99 ( hit 117,211

                          117                 1,1                   doubles  88,11,99 (211,99)

                          So why do I need to thru all this skips, stats when the trigger is effective  and less stressful

                           

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                          Drawing DatePick 3Pick 4
                          MiddayEveningMiddayEvening
                          Sat, May 17, 20146-9-79-7-3-9
                          Fri, May 16, 20147-1-14-8-74-5-4-70-6-9-8
                          Thu, May 15, 20145-4-12-9-78-5-6-12-6-7-7
                          Wed, May 14, 20141-5-52-8-62-7-9-04-4-7-7
                          Tue, May 13, 20144-2-96-1-71-3-9-87-0-3-7
                          Mon, May 12, 20141-4-98-5-97-0-3-63-6-4-7
                          Sun, May 11, 20142-6-00-9-90-8-6-53-0-5-7
                          Sat, May 10, 20145-7-86-0-61-1-4-15-3-6-0
                          Fri, May 9, 20145-7-06-8-81-9-2-61-7-5-4
                          Thu, May 8, 20145-2-10-5-28-3-2-86-0-3-3.

                          Draw 521       trigger 2,1    doubles     88,11,99 (711, 099E)

                          draw 570          x

                          draw 578         7,8              00,55,99   (hit 155,099E)

                          draw 260        2,0               88,11,99 (hit 099E, 711D)

                          after 3 draws my doubles are clear,do i need skips and countless tracking to play doubles?

                          see type E draws

                          052            trigger  0,2      doubles  88-11-99(688)

                          688          trigger    8,8       00-55-22

                          606                       6,6        77-44-66

                          099                        9,9       00-55-22

                          859                        8,9       00-55-22

                           after just 3 draws, 00,55,22 is pending for E type, is a simple way of locating doubles to play, but does negate other

                          options!

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                            I like the idea of using scientifically and statistical methods to develop systems.

                            It will be much easier to understand the background behind these systems.

                            There is nothing logical in predicting in a random setting, all mathematical theories started with a philosophical concepts(back to base may simplify prediction)

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                              You know after careful consideration you (onlymoney person) and your special ways does seem the best ......and so my advice is to go with that. Go Hard.... both of you... and be bold with it too....we believe in you. 

                                Like you say.... all that ......"mumbo jumbo statistics lingo"  stuff is just like you described. Its just a pipe dream put out by"the man"...... just confusing really. 

                               

                               Not my fault really...where it all went wrong for me was in Grammer School with all that reading and education stuff..... that started it.

                              That Reading stuff is like a "Gate way Drug"   later on that leads to using that arithmetic stuff.... and later on.... the really hard stuff in high school. You know like.... algebra and later pure down home statistics too. You have to understand ....those Nun's are ruthless pushers.  It's Addictive crap....sad really....... we repent.

                               

                               I just noticed I've been here since 2002 and just crossed over the 10,000 post goal line. I was at Maybells before that. I really do think it's a good time to retire..... I'm losing my sense of humor!

                                         What rdrgr said is true..... "what was good is now bad..... and what was bad is now good"     .....and I'm old and confused.   LO..... L

                               

                               

                              The only real failure .....is the failure to try.                               

                                                            Luck is a very rare thing....... Odds not so much. 

                                                            Odds never change .....but probability does. 

                                                                                                                     Win d    

                                 
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