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Statistically Speaking - QP's and PP's

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Will you go hick on everyone if the answer does not agree with you? Are you going to redirect the whole thing and make this a ‘Pub=QP and Lib=SP? This whole thread is a QP shill’s wet dream gone bad.

You are right about the reds flags. Speaking of red flags, where is PB Floyd? You should really look at his posts. He is expert at very well paid level.

DD

Maybe you need glasses. You should re-read what I wrote. It is my opinion....HELLOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

This is why there is a discussion forum.....why?......So we can have discussions..................................................................................................

Did your mind ever see me write some thing like.................."I NOW DECLARE, RULE OF THE LAND"?

You're as wacked out as Vision DUD.....


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    Maybe you need glasses. You should re-read what I wrote. It is my opinion....HELLOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

    This is why there is a discussion forum.....why?......So we can have discussions..................................................................................................

    Did your mind ever see me write some thing like.................."I NOW DECLARE, RULE OF THE LAND"?

    You're as wacked out as Vision DUD.....

    You are right about your opinion. My bad. Can you repeat the question?

    DD

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      Maybe you need glasses. You should re-read what I wrote. It is my opinion....HELLOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

      This is why there is a discussion forum.....why?......So we can have discussions..................................................................................................

      Did your mind ever see me write some thing like.................."I NOW DECLARE, RULE OF THE LAND"?

      You're as wacked out as Vision DUD.....

      Things are definitely going to be dumbed down now, Joker.

      Unintelligible-ville.

      The forum combined IQ has taken a plunge.


                                                   
                           
                                               

       

       

       

       

                                                                                                         

      "The only thing necessary for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing"

                                                                                                  --Edmund Burke

       

       


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        Things are definitely going to be dumbed down now, Joker.

        Unintelligible-ville.

        The forum combined IQ has taken a plunge.

        Face it fo- hick, you now tried to redefine the question and you have been successful at distancing yourself from any objectiveness due to your ROVIAN tactics.

        Maybe you should get a job at FOX and you can be there when they throw your TEABAG goddess under the bus one last time. She is a sell-out like Rove and all the dirt-boys you admire. YOU are a Shill.

        DD

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          Face it fo- hick, you now tried to redefine the question and you have been successful at distancing yourself from any objectiveness due to your ROVIAN tactics.

          Maybe you should get a job at FOX and you can be there when they throw your TEABAG goddess under the bus one last time. She is a sell-out like Rove and all the dirt-boys you admire. YOU are a Shill.

          DD

          LOL What I tell ya Joker?


                                                       
                               
                                                   

           

           

           

           

                                                                                                             

          "The only thing necessary for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing"

                                                                                                      --Edmund Burke

           

           


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            LOL What I tell ya Joker?

            Good spin Ridge. I can see how you got Jade going and took the topic to your hog-walher level.

            You like all dirtboys gotta change the subject, as in redefining the question when it suits you. The question is not about my IQ but let’s see,… you went to the mud pits when you feigned stupidity like the rest of the world is in your court. Boo-Hoo. Having a few to sympathize with you does not change the discussion in this thread and it has gone out. Why don’t you answer Joker? Cat got your tongue? I don't see where you told him.

            DD

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              Couldn't the whole Quick Pick / Player Pick (System) controversy be solved with statistics?

               

              According to the latest back and forth:

              Quick Picks account for 70% of the tickets sold and 70% of the winning tickets.

              Player Picks account for 30% of the tickets sold and 30% of the winning tickets.

              That outcome would be and is in accordance with the odds.

               

              My question then is this:

              If one method of play is better, wouldn't it's winning percentage fare better than it's sales percentage?

              For instance, if Player Picks are better, shouldn't they garner maybe 35 to 40% of the winners while only accounting for 30% of the sales?

               

              If neither method  beats the odds of winning percentage vs. sales percentage, how is one better than the other? 

              As it stands now, if the percentages are correct, Player Picks win at the same dumb luck rate as Quick Picks

               

              It would seem to me that in order to have a definitive answer, one would have to find a little edge, a little bulge in the percentage of wins vs. sales on a consistent basis to prove the superiority of one style of play over the other.

               

              Or am I nuts?

              rdgrnr

              Were does this information come from, the 70% 30% split.  I would question that first.

              RL

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              I will consider the opinion that my winnings are a product of chance if you are willing to consider

              they are not.  Many great discoveries come while searching for something else

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                The Politburo is sending a lotto expert, Ivan Selfpickovitch, in to say it's ok to play quick picks but you must wheel them.

                Ivan previously worked in the Ministry of Disinformatzy.

                Those who run the lotteries love it when players look for consistency in something that's designed not to have any.

                Lep

                There is one and only one 'proven' system, and that is to book the action. No matter the game, let the players pick their own losers.


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                  The Politburo is sending a lotto expert, Ivan Selfpickovitch, in to say it's ok to play quick picks but you must wheel them.

                  Ivan previously worked in the Ministry of Disinformatzy.

                  You shills have no shame. You drive the discussion forum and control public opinion with propaganda like you are a common man, one of the crowd as you mix. The tail wags the dog when you say a dissident to your agenda is trying to control the public’s mind. Facts are only meaningful when they support your agenda. I have met some pathetic manipulative people in my life but for the money, you confidence artists take the cake. Why don’t you PM someone who cares, someone who you can call foul to my exposing your manipulations. It's too late for the news to change.

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                    This just in, Illinois:

                    LOTTO PRIZE PAYOUTS FOR MONDAY, JULY 12, 2010

                    WINNING NUMBERS: 18 - 21 - 22 - 30 - 51 - 52

                    PLAYERS MATCHING 6 OF 6 NUMBERS
                    INCLUDING SUBSCRIPTION WINNERS 1
                    EACH PLAYER WILL RECEIVE $3,500,000.00

                    WINNING TICKETS WERE SOLD AT

                    600362 CASEYS GEN STORE #2359 (QP)
                    401 S MAIN
                    FARMER CITY/61842

                    Which gives us TYD 2010:

                    6 Jackpots

                    5 QP

                    1 PP

                    Solo jackpots: 6

                    Shared jackpots: 0

                    Highest jackpot $12,250,000 June 12

                    Average jackpot: $6,083,333

                    Total jackpot money paid out to date: $36,500,00

                    ______________________________________________

                    The request still stands for any Excel expert to do a tally on total jackpot money won by quick picks compared to total jackpot money won by self picks.

                    The first jackpot of the year in this game was a PP for $4,250,000, the other five wins have all been quick picks, so in this particular game of $36,500,000 paid out $32,250,000 have gone to QPs.That's 89.04% of the jackpot money.

                    Anything promoting the wonders of self picks over quick picks other than other games being tracked, that is backing up what is said, and results posted is nothing but opinion and only falls under the SO WHAT rule.

                    Those who run the lotteries love it when players look for consistency in something that's designed not to have any.

                    Lep

                    There is one and only one 'proven' system, and that is to book the action. No matter the game, let the players pick their own losers.

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                      rdgrnr

                      Were does this information come from, the 70% 30% split.  I would question that first.

                      RL

                      Those are the numbers that are always recited when the subject comes up.

                      Here's what I wanted to know.

                      I'll make this as simple as possible.

                       

                      Example:

                      The QP's bought 70% of tickets and had 60% of the winners.

                      The PP's bought 30% of tickets and had 40% of the winners.

                       

                      I would consider that to be proof that PP's outperform QP's.

                      Would that be right?

                      I was asking if anybody knew if that was the case and you would think I made the libs recite the Pledge of Allegiance from all the vitriol I got in response from them.


                                                                   
                                           
                                                               

                       

                       

                       

                       

                                                                                                                         

                      "The only thing necessary for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing"

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                        The Politburo is sending a lotto expert, Ivan Selfpickovitch, in to say it's ok to play quick picks but you must wheel them.

                        Ivan previously worked in the Ministry of Disinformatzy.

                        Green laughYou outdid yourself on that one CT.

                                LMAO.


                                                                     
                                             
                                                                 

                         

                         

                         

                         

                                                                                                                           

                        "The only thing necessary for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing"

                                                                                                                    --Edmund Burke

                         

                         

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                          Those are the numbers that are always recited when the subject comes up.

                          Here's what I wanted to know.

                          I'll make this as simple as possible.

                           

                          Example:

                          The QP's bought 70% of tickets and had 60% of the winners.

                          The PP's bought 30% of tickets and had 40% of the winners.

                           

                          I would consider that to be proof that PP's outperform QP's.

                          Would that be right?

                          I was asking if anybody knew if that was the case and you would think I made the libs recite the Pledge of Allegiance from all the vitriol I got in response from them.

                          If those numbers are accurate then I've been living a lie all these years!!!

                          PP's it is!!

                          "...a chance to push everything aside, the circumstances that've controlled our lives, and do it our way now. Good, bad or otherwise. You'll maybe get lost in it, tied up in it a little bit, but if you work your way through that the real you shows up, I think. Maybe what's at your core deep down, maybe that comes out. Maybe that's what it's about." Mike Pace 

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                            Dang all the old guys went offline,  the nurses must of shut off the Internet access! 

                             Don't Depend on QP's to win you a jackpot,  because by the time you hit you won't even need these anymore.

                            welllllllll you may not be very proficient at picking what the future numbers are going to be jarasan,  but you sure are good at determining what's "predictable" in someone else's life.    (as in my "need" for the above pictured item)

                            aka,  i teach teenagers how to drive

                            how did you know that?

                            lol

                                        "i am .........."meant to"       

                            P.S.,  that RJoH  is a stand up guy.  thanks,  vision

                                     until further notice,  it's  france everyday

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                              If those numbers are accurate then I've been living a lie all these years!!!

                              PP's it is!!

                              I made up those numbers as a hypothetical Nino.

                              I find it hard to believe that 70% of QP's account for exactly 70% of winners and the 30% of PP's account for exactly 30% of winners.

                              But if that's the case how can anybody say one method is better than the other?


                                                                           
                                                   
                                                                       

                               

                               

                               

                               

                                                                                                                                 

                              "The only thing necessary for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing"

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