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Statistically Speaking - QP's and PP's

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No I REALLY  spend money what  I meant  was I GAMBLE for the fun of it NOT  trying too prove  anything,sell anything or make any outrageous claims that  I HAVE some magical winning system

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    No I REALLY  spend money what  I meant  was I GAMBLE for the fun of it NOT  trying too prove  anything,sell anything or make any outrageous claims that  I HAVE some magical winning system

    OK, cool, just wondering


                                                 
                         
                                             

     

     

     

     

                                                                                                       

    "The only thing necessary for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing"

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      what's "impressive" about losing over a million dollars?

      ( I never said he actually lost a million I don't know how much he lost while playing I just said "what if")

      it would still only serve to prove that lottery systems don't work, and in steve players case, just on a much larger scale.

      (No it doesn't because if you WIN using a strategy or system then that's PROOF it DOES work)

      this is what i mean by the "emotional component" of things like this askewing a persons ability to reason.

      (WRONG!! your not understanding the process )

      people lose their minds over the "maybe's" in life, and the lottery is a microcasm of that epidemic

      ( Then why do you play??? a lot of members from Lottery Post have won money playing the games and a lot of people have not you haven't really done well at all with your quick-pick method but I can't figure out why you discard system/strategy play when it has just as much chance at helping a player win as a quick-pick or lucky numbers)

      there would be nothing 'impressive' about losing over a million dollars

      (True I AGREE but I never said that as a fact I WAS just making a statmement I HAVE no idea how much he lost while playing but like I said before he obviously hasn't lost so much that it PUT him in the poor house)

      "he's staying in the game", because he is but one of the lotteries version of "most" TV evangelists. preying (pun definetly intended) on weaker minded people who are desperate, and trade their common sense straight across for their "desperation".

      (WRONG!! No comparison there TV evangelist use scare tactics too get naive gullible people too give up there hard earned money too a GOD who never asked them to do so)

      the dude sells scams, i mean "systems", and that's how steve player "stays in the game".

      (Another INCORRECT statement I know a lot of people some from LOTTERY POST who PERSONALLY have won and do win money using several of his systems and have been buying them for over 5 yrs,He does make money selling them that I will agree but he also makes a LOT of his cash from acutally using his systems.I would totally agree with you if all he did was SELL his systems but he personally USES them as well and it's only a scam if no one has ever been able too win anything from using them and so far as I CAN tell at least from the players I know and have met on LotteryPost they have had success using them of course not on the scale Steve does but they won more than there money back)

      same with those guys on TV that sell "great real esate buying tactics", etc. they don't even work their own "angle" themselves, cuz it's way to easy going to the P.O. box and collecting cash from the wishful thinking liner uppers.

      (NOT the same at all I have personally bought his systems and they have helped me in creating my own strategies for hitting the numbers just because you or any other player wouldn't or couldn't win using his systems doesn't mean there a scam)

      if there ever was a "climate" in america that made it easy pickens for scammers, it's now people are acting more desperate than ever...

      (People that know about using skill too play the game aren't naive or gullible it's the players that don't know anyting and are DESPERATE too hit)

      "( Then why do you play??? a lot of members from Lottery Post have won money playing the games and a lot of people have not you haven't really done well at all with your quick-pick method but I can't figure out why you discard system/strategy play when it has just as much chance at helping a player win as a quick-pick or lucky numbers)"

      (1)  i already answered that question before.  did you skip over it?     either way,  you know me from before,  and you know my mantra,  so why would you ask that question when you already know the answer?

      (2) i "discard" a system when someone attempts to sell someone else the notion that the lottery can be won (on any level) thru "skill",  cuz that's a lie.   it's random.   what i don't like,  is the false hope attached to that possibility,  and it creates an atmosphere where the desperate chase an unobtainable goal.   play anthing other than a QP,  i don't care,  because other "methods" have equal chance of winning in a truly random game.  sell the notion (idealogy,  not necessarily for monetary gain)........i do care.     

      false hope is of the debbil, momma  (2nd visiondude 4:44.4x p.i.)

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      "(WRONG!! No comparison there TV evangelist use scare tactics too get naive gullible people too give up there hard earned money too a GOD who never asked them to do so)

      it was a perfect comparison,  sans the "scare tactics/God"  portion.

      perfect,  because of the gulliable component based on desperation,  and losing ones common sense in favor of a "maybe".

      i am glad that you pointed out that God never "asked them to".    that part was right,  or at least not for the reason the way those goobers on TV ask people "why" they should give money............to line their own wallets.

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      "(NOT the same at all I have personally bought his systems and they have helped me in creating my own strategies for hitting the numbers just because you or any other player wouldn't or couldn't win using his systems doesn't mean there a scam)

      this one gets the all hands on deck - are you kidding me - this is the holy grail of lottery systems players faux naw.

      re-read what you just stated above.   this time apply just a dash of common sense.

      if a "system" had any teeth,  the one component it would have,  is that every person that used it,  would acheive the exact same results.

      are these systems sellers that good at scamming people that they make it confusing just enough so that joe schmoe applies X, Y, and Z on tue,  while lenny throws A, B, and D on tue?

      the system you buy for $100,  is the same system billy buys for $100,  and you get "different results"?

      man,  if that don't tell you that it's random,  even the common sense police can't help you

      systems that people sell are repeatable,  in that if you apply what they tell you,  you will get "X" result,  so long as you follow the plan.  but the "plan"  is exactly the same for everyone that bought that system also.

      i suspect also,  because i am really good at scam detection,  that they probably built into the system the "variable factor".

      meaning,  "results can vary to different individuals",  and that's complete garbage.

      that's what scammers do to keep people on the hook,  the old keep tryin,  it'll eventually work lie.

        a system is repeatable to everyone that applies it,  so long as they apply it as it's "sold"

      it's just common sense

                  "i am .........."meant to"       

      P.S.,  that RJoH  is a stand up guy.  thanks,  vision

               until further notice,  it's  france everyday

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        doesn't matter what the length of the "history" of the game is in a truly random drawn game, because within each drawing, each ball has the same equal chance of being drawn, thereby negating a possible "future pattern" on any level.

        (WRONG!! it does matter see this is what I mean by "you have no clue" Random numbers over time do form patterns that are noticable by a skilled player and once again I agree that they all have the same chance but what you forget is that NOT all of them will come up at the same time so you can with the right info figure out which numbers are MOST lilkely too come up by selecting a GROUP not just the main 3. ONCE again you're bringing up this FUTURE pattern nonsense.I explained that already it's not based on any FUTURE pattern it's based on PAST performance/patterns)

        if anything, it's only luck that they come up in a sequence you were "playing for".

        ("WRONG,WRONG,WRONG" you don't know the difference between luck play and skill play you see "Luck Play" has no rhyme or reason for the numbers you jsut pick whatever you like numbers that have personal meaning,out of a hat or what ever pops in your head or a quick-pick."Skill Play" involves analysis of the numbers based on the known variables and with that info you make an EDUCATED or INTELLIGENT choice)

        what you can do, is try and explain how you think the balls "repeat", etc, when they use different balls and machines.

        (Oh My freaking GOD!! Numbers repeat from the previous draw "A LOT" in fact here in FL just 2 days ago the number 0 repeated 4 draws in a row and on 7/05 two numbers repeated from the day before)

        you can substitute letters for numbers on the balls, so how would that effect "draw history" for future prediction?

        (What the heck are you talking about?? I wouldn't even play the game if they used letters instead of numbers first of all and secondly why are you bringing that up?? we are talking about NUMBERS.The draw history of the numbers is used too analyse how the numbers behave over a period of time a skilled player can SPOT trends,patterns,cycles that are REPEATED over time and make an intelligent decision on which GROUP of numbers too play in order to TRY and TRAP the winning numbers.If I choose 8 numbers I have just INCREASED my chances of hitting the numbers by having the possible winning numbers in my group of 8)

        btw, the balls cannot communicate what number they are between themselves, nor "if" someone changed their value from numerical to alphabetical.

        (I NEVER SAID THEY COULD!!! Your really coming up with some WACKY rebuttals of what I've been trying to explain too you it's not the number it's the DRAW history where the player OBSERVES the activity of the numbers over a specified number of occurences or period of time)

        i am severely math handicapped from the neck up, but i would be more than willing to change my mind when someone demonstrates the balls ability to have what i call "magical memory"

        (OH MY GOODNESS!! are you mentally challenged??? I have repeatedly told you that the numbers HAVE NO memory why do you insist on saying this???? who told you that they do??? when did I say this??? NEVER!! it's the DRAW history that a skilled player works with the TRAIL the numbers leave behind day after day after day after day)

        randomness negates future pattern(s)

        (TOTALLY WRONG!!! Random numbers over a LONG period of time will show patterns or what I CALL non-random activity yes it's a short window but once you open it your GREATLY increasing your chances of winning)

        "(WRONG!! it does matter see this is what I mean by "you have no clue" Random numbers over time do form patterns that are noticable by a skilled player"

        (TOTALLY WRONG!!! Random numbers over a LONG period of time will show patterns or what I CALL non-random activity yes it's a short window but once you open it your GREATLY increasing your chances of winning)"

        i would be more than honored for you to be the first to explain how that possibly happens,  and for me to be the 1st to witness it in 8 years of being here. 

         now,  it's just me and you,  and no one else is paying attention,  so let's see it.

        how do numbers form a "pattern" in a random event?   you can base it in the past or the future,  that's fine by me.

        as far as why i changed the value from numerical to alphabetical is more than just for the hysterical.   it was to demonstrate the rediculous notion that balls have "memory".

        i know i keep harping on "memory",  but memory is the only possible cement you can have in your foundation that certain balls are eventually due based on their past "history".   

        lottery balls are inanimate objects.   therefore their eventuality "appearance" is circumstancial,  and invloves zero "skill".

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        you sound alot like the former "pick4_master".     are you?

                    "i am .........."meant to"       

        P.S.,  that RJoH  is a stand up guy.  thanks,  vision

                 until further notice,  it's  france everyday


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          if a "system" had any teeth, the one component it would have, is that every person that used it, would acheive the exact same results.

          (See you keep proving to me more and more you know nothing about systems and there relations too lottery games,first of all a system that would give the same exact results too all players is called a "READY TOO PLAY" system where all you do is put in the past results using a formula or chart and in the next step play a ready set group of numbers provided by the system.This does not require any analysis,tracking or intrepretation of data.Here is an example from Steve Players catalog it's called the "Master Cash Redlist" system where you take the last 2 numbers drawn for example 390 and 456 then add each number by position 3+4,9+5 and 0+6 which gives you 7-14-6 then you look up this new number code and it will give you a pre-set group of numbers too play everyone that happens too use this system the way it's set up would get the SAME exact numbers and SAME exact results providing that the winning numbers were in there group from the code everyone would win at the same time.Now I PERSONALLY don't use systems like this I use systems that require total human input/interaction and since all of us are different on how we interpret data some players may get different results when using NON ready too play systems.Which means I may intrepret the data differently based on my analysis and come up with a different set of numbers too play compared too someone else for  example you may have  some scientists or  other  experts  that  will  interpret the  same data  and get DIFFERENT  results  and publish that there  results are accurate this  happens  alot and the  same thing can occur with number crunching  systems  each player is at a different skill  level.This is the difference you see not all systems are the same what you described above is acheived in READY too PLAY systems that do not require extensive number crunching you just follow a few simple steps and you get a set of numbers too play.)

           



          i would be more than honored for you to be the first to explain how that possibly happens, and for me to be the 1st to witness it in 8 years of being here.

          (I've explained that too you NUMEROUS times already so this will be the LAST time when you print out a draw history of let's say 60-90 draws you will notice PATTERNS,CYCLES,TRENDS numbers that repeat from the day before,repeat 3,4 or more times in a row,numbers that do a leap frog pattern skip 1 day then hit,skip 1 day then hit,skip 1 day then hit this can happen several times in a week or more.Numbers stay out 10,12,14,21 or more days hit then skip 1 day and hit again.Another pattern is what I call a MATCH pattern where a number hits then skips 4 days hits then skips another 4 days and hits again or it can happen with a 2 day skip patter where is hits then skips 2 days and does it 1 or 2 more times.Then you have what I call shor,med,long, overdue patterns where a number is out 1-3 days(short) 4-6 days (med) and (7-9) long and overdue (10-15) days and hits and finally (1-2) numbers that hit from 2-3 days before.Now remember we are not trying too select the EXACT 3 numbers we are using this information too select a GROUP of numbers say ( 6 - 8 ) this is what I call laying a NET or TRAP in order too try and capture the winning numbers in your selected group and I tell you it does and can work once you get good at it)

           

           

          how do numbers form a "pattern" in a random event? you can base it in the past or the future, that's fine by me.

          ("You don't base it on the Future" I explained that already when the numbers have been drawn over a LONG period of time for example our daily games have been around since at least 1990 or 1991 they start repeating and clustering because when the games first start there aren't enough draws yet for the numbers too start cycling themselves out meaning exhausting the TOTAL randomness.What I mean is in respect to your complete randomness claims you are correct but after 20 yrs of drawings on a daily basis the numbers will start too exhibit non-random activity which is the patterns,cycles,trend examples I SHOWED you above this WINDOW will happen in a short period of time through out the week and you have to have a SHARP eye too see when this is gonna occur and JUMP on it.Because after that it will go back too it's pure random state but you see the numbers alternate between what I call RANDOM and NON-RANDOM activity the Random activity does last longer than the Non-random activity so that is why I AGREE with you that the numbers are random BUT!! it does have another side too it and any skilled numbers player will tell you what I AM saying the numbers can,will and do form identifiable patterns that you can EXPLOIT too your advantage.And the only way too make consistant wins is too try and use ALL the patterns which can be VERY expensive.I choose too play SMART by only jumping on SPECIFIC patterns that's why I CAN play whenever I want and not go broke.I wait until I SEE a specific pattern emerging then I "ATTACK" I may or may not stay on it for 2-3 days and sometimes I'm right and sometimes I'm wrong.When I'm wrong I will wait a few days and try again after all it's gambling a game of chance so you take a chance that you made the correct choice based on your data.)

           



          i know i keep harping on "memory", but memory is the only possible cement you can have in your foundation that certain balls are eventually due based on their past "history".

          (WRONG!! it's you that cannot get past this silly concept that I NEVER ever brought up due too your LACK of understanding of system play and random number activity it's not a memory thing it's an OBSERVATION thing the PAST performance,acitivity of the numbers whatever happened before will happen again.If a number did a "LEAP FROG" pattern during the week the same will happen again with other numbers)

           

           

          lottery balls are inanimate objects. therefore their eventuality "appearance" is circumstancial, and invloves zero "skill".

          (YES they are "INANIMATE" objects but again like I have explained to you before I'm not concerned with the ACTUAL ping-pong balls I am only concerned with the DATA and in this case the number draw history.And your WRONG about the skill factor it does require SKILL too notice,identify,spot the patterns and know when too JUMP on them THAT'S where skill comes in from practicing.You see in anything we do in life if we keep studying,practicing,preparing,testing etc... you will get better at it.If I wanted to be a Card player in the Casino what do I do? TEACH myself how too play and get better with constant PRACTICE until my SKILL level increases this is really a very simple concept in fact I GOT the idea from the Casino card players that do it for a living after all there gambling too so I applied similair technigues to lottery play.They are skilled players that require expertise and know how too play the Card games yes they aren't dealing with numbers so too speak like me but the idea is still the same PRACTICE makes PERFECT or in this case MAKES you a BETTER player)

           

          you sound alot like the former "pick4_master". are you?

          (Maybe I am or Maybe I'm not)

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            if a "system" had any teeth, the one component it would have, is that every person that used it, would acheive the exact same results.

            (See you keep proving to me more and more you know nothing about systems and there relations too lottery games,first of all a system that would give the same exact results too all players is called a "READY TOO PLAY" system where all you do is put in the past results using a formula or chart and in the next step play a ready set group of numbers provided by the system.This does not require any analysis,tracking or intrepretation of data.Here is an example from Steve Players catalog it's called the "Master Cash Redlist" system where you take the last 2 numbers drawn for example 390 and 456 then add each number by position 3+4,9+5 and 0+6 which gives you 7-14-6 then you look up this new number code and it will give you a pre-set group of numbers too play everyone that happens too use this system the way it's set up would get the SAME exact numbers and SAME exact results providing that the winning numbers were in there group from the code everyone would win at the same time.Now I PERSONALLY don't use systems like this I use systems that require total human input/interaction and since all of us are different on how we interpret data some players may get different results when using NON ready too play systems.Which means I may intrepret the data differently based on my analysis and come up with a different set of numbers too play compared too someone else for  example you may have  some scientists or  other  experts  that  will  interpret the  same data  and get DIFFERENT  results  and publish that there  results are accurate this  happens  alot and the  same thing can occur with number crunching  systems  each player is at a different skill  level.This is the difference you see not all systems are the same what you described above is acheived in READY too PLAY systems that do not require extensive number crunching you just follow a few simple steps and you get a set of numbers too play.)

             



            i would be more than honored for you to be the first to explain how that possibly happens, and for me to be the 1st to witness it in 8 years of being here.

            (I've explained that too you NUMEROUS times already so this will be the LAST time when you print out a draw history of let's say 60-90 draws you will notice PATTERNS,CYCLES,TRENDS numbers that repeat from the day before,repeat 3,4 or more times in a row,numbers that do a leap frog pattern skip 1 day then hit,skip 1 day then hit,skip 1 day then hit this can happen several times in a week or more.Numbers stay out 10,12,14,21 or more days hit then skip 1 day and hit again.Another pattern is what I call a MATCH pattern where a number hits then skips 4 days hits then skips another 4 days and hits again or it can happen with a 2 day skip patter where is hits then skips 2 days and does it 1 or 2 more times.Then you have what I call shor,med,long, overdue patterns where a number is out 1-3 days(short) 4-6 days (med) and (7-9) long and overdue (10-15) days and hits and finally (1-2) numbers that hit from 2-3 days before.Now remember we are not trying too select the EXACT 3 numbers we are using this information too select a GROUP of numbers say ( 6 - 8 ) this is what I call laying a NET or TRAP in order too try and capture the winning numbers in your selected group and I tell you it does and can work once you get good at it)

             

             

            how do numbers form a "pattern" in a random event? you can base it in the past or the future, that's fine by me.

            ("You don't base it on the Future" I explained that already when the numbers have been drawn over a LONG period of time for example our daily games have been around since at least 1990 or 1991 they start repeating and clustering because when the games first start there aren't enough draws yet for the numbers too start cycling themselves out meaning exhausting the TOTAL randomness.What I mean is in respect to your complete randomness claims you are correct but after 20 yrs of drawings on a daily basis the numbers will start too exhibit non-random activity which is the patterns,cycles,trend examples I SHOWED you above this WINDOW will happen in a short period of time through out the week and you have to have a SHARP eye too see when this is gonna occur and JUMP on it.Because after that it will go back too it's pure random state but you see the numbers alternate between what I call RANDOM and NON-RANDOM activity the Random activity does last longer than the Non-random activity so that is why I AGREE with you that the numbers are random BUT!! it does have another side too it and any skilled numbers player will tell you what I AM saying the numbers can,will and do form identifiable patterns that you can EXPLOIT too your advantage.And the only way too make consistant wins is too try and use ALL the patterns which can be VERY expensive.I choose too play SMART by only jumping on SPECIFIC patterns that's why I CAN play whenever I want and not go broke.I wait until I SEE a specific pattern emerging then I "ATTACK" I may or may not stay on it for 2-3 days and sometimes I'm right and sometimes I'm wrong.When I'm wrong I will wait a few days and try again after all it's gambling a game of chance so you take a chance that you made the correct choice based on your data.)

             



            i know i keep harping on "memory", but memory is the only possible cement you can have in your foundation that certain balls are eventually due based on their past "history".

            (WRONG!! it's you that cannot get past this silly concept that I NEVER ever brought up due too your LACK of understanding of system play and random number activity it's not a memory thing it's an OBSERVATION thing the PAST performance,acitivity of the numbers whatever happened before will happen again.If a number did a "LEAP FROG" pattern during the week the same will happen again with other numbers)

             

             

            lottery balls are inanimate objects. therefore their eventuality "appearance" is circumstancial, and invloves zero "skill".

            (YES they are "INANIMATE" objects but again like I have explained to you before I'm not concerned with the ACTUAL ping-pong balls I am only concerned with the DATA and in this case the number draw history.And your WRONG about the skill factor it does require SKILL too notice,identify,spot the patterns and know when too JUMP on them THAT'S where skill comes in from practicing.You see in anything we do in life if we keep studying,practicing,preparing,testing etc... you will get better at it.If I wanted to be a Card player in the Casino what do I do? TEACH myself how too play and get better with constant PRACTICE until my SKILL level increases this is really a very simple concept in fact I GOT the idea from the Casino card players that do it for a living after all there gambling too so I applied similair technigues to lottery play.They are skilled players that require expertise and know how too play the Card games yes they aren't dealing with numbers so too speak like me but the idea is still the same PRACTICE makes PERFECT or in this case MAKES you a BETTER player)

             

            you sound alot like the former "pick4_master". are you?

            (Maybe I am or Maybe I'm not)

            "you sound alot like the former "pick4_master". are you?

            (Maybe I am or Maybe I'm not)"

            looks pretty much the same writing style as "pick 4_master".

            either way,  seems a bit disingenuous that you wouldn't even throw a "yes" or "no" answer at my question.

            i wouldn't thunk if you were,  you wouldn't have anything to hide behind.     i know i don't

            anyway,  gotta go cheat death (aka, work).

            i will be back in later so you can school me on how to beat a random game.

            is it possible i   "just don't understand"?     maybe.   i am more than willing to come to a truth.    but the problem remains,  it HAS to be true,  before i can put my faith in it.

            in the meantime,  do me a favor would you,  since we are old "buddies"....

              go around the forum and tell people i am not in here to "trash"  people who wanna "help others".

            i live for that,  that "helping others" edict.

            tell them i am just  a card carrying member of the false hope police.  that's all

            if a person is NOT dispensing false hope to others (by implying something "works",  if it doesn't),  and really does possess the ability to help others,  than that person is on the right side of things in life

            VISION

                        "i am .........."meant to"       

            P.S.,  that RJoH  is a stand up guy.  thanks,  vision

                     until further notice,  it's  france everyday


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              The solution is simple. The BLOCK feature.

              DD

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                The solution is simple. The BLOCK feature.

                DD

                you wouldn't have the ability to "suggest it",  unless you could still read my posts,  and that after you told the whole board you "blocked me".

                  guys like you, with ego's that cannot match their abilities,  can't help themselves when it comes to reading what i write,  so i know you never "blocked me" to begin with.

                you continue to lift the veil of what you "aren't",  in comparison to what you pass yourself off to be.

                you do it yourself. 

                you don't even need my "help".   lol

                            "i am .........."meant to"       

                P.S.,  that RJoH  is a stand up guy.  thanks,  vision

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                  It’s a software switch moron, I can turn it on and I can turn it off.

                  While it was off I could still see where you were active in threads. To my surprise I saw your content when I was going to reply to someone.

                  I just wanted you to get off the other guys leg so he could clean up. Hey sick puppy, lernd this from u ….

                  "  if it’s doesn’t put the lotion on the skin, it gets the hose again!

                  You just run around gum bumping anyone that you can get to engage. Like this is a DEBATE Forum. Like you are some kind of intellectual that needs the whole world watching. A basic flaw in self love drives you for more and more self recognition. You could not even rate on the debate forum at P.M.A. and that is pretty bad. You don’t even know ‘stuff’.

                  You really think I am going to protect my honor, my ego when spanking yours is so much more fun?

                  ROTF, LOL.

                  Please adulate yourself for everyone to see.

                  C’mon. Here’s my leg. I’ll be your Huckleberry.

                  DD


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                    Too bad, so sad.

                    You're too slow.

                    The switch is ON.

                    DD

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                      It’s a software switch moron, I can turn it on and I can turn it off.

                      While it was off I could still see where you were active in threads. To my surprise I saw your content when I was going to reply to someone.

                      I just wanted you to get off the other guys leg so he could clean up. Hey sick puppy, lernd this from u ….

                      "  if it’s doesn’t put the lotion on the skin, it gets the hose again!

                      You just run around gum bumping anyone that you can get to engage. Like this is a DEBATE Forum. Like you are some kind of intellectual that needs the whole world watching. A basic flaw in self love drives you for more and more self recognition. You could not even rate on the debate forum at P.M.A. and that is pretty bad. You don’t even know ‘stuff’.

                      You really think I am going to protect my honor, my ego when spanking yours is so much more fun?

                      ROTF, LOL.

                      Please adulate yourself for everyone to see.

                      C’mon. Here’s my leg. I’ll be your Huckleberry.

                      DD

                      "It’s a software switch moron, I can turn it on and I can turn it off."

                      anybody with half their brain tied behind their back (to borrow someone elses quip)  could tell that's nothing more than a lie to cover up what you stated you "supposedly "did. 

                       right when you said you did it,  i know you never turned it off to begin with,  given your ego is bottomless in here.

                      i have dealt with so many people like you,  would i should do is place future bets on what i know your  future behavior will be, in regards to your "past history".   since i know people...

                      if you so easily lie, and you smather the board with your "tough guy" calling people names persona,  it shows that you really are a non-facto when comes to the discussion of truth....on any level

                      you make garbage up   -------->    BIG WHOOP.   

                      i know you are used  to being the big dog in the 3rd grade debate forum,  but this is the big leagues now DD,  and eventually,  with my matched ability to uncover your feigned "truth" spillages,  you will end up doing what you did twice already,  and that's run out the back door with your forked tail dragging behind you.

                      straight up, your an arrogant jerk that thinks you can roam around in here and call people nasty names because you hide behind a computer, without being checked,  think again.

                      most people won't shoulder up to a person like you,  but i ain't "most people".

                      eventually,  you will meet someone on the playground of life that you can't push around, on ANY level

                      your short term memory loss "forgets" that i don't block people, i stay to the end,  and i sure don't run out any door,  much less the back one.

                      if your ego is that far gone,  that you could possibly think "you're the one"  that's gonna side track what i do in here,  you have lost your systematic mind. 

                      i wouldn't suggest you try,  based on your already proven inabilities,  but if your ego is that run amok, BRING IT.     

                       i will only do with you what i did the last time,  as i will continue to lift the veil of who you aren't,  by allowing you the priviledge of falling on your OWN sword.

                      all i need to do with a person like you is stay the course,  no matter how ugly it gets,  and that eventuality brings my talents to the surface,  by allowing the rest of the board the ability for you to reveal YOURSELF.   it's so easy,  i don't even need to spend a blip of that time/effort defending myself.

                      it's what i do "part time",  but only when someone creates the opportunity,  then i have to

                      now,  let's see if you are "willing"  to allow the rest of us to get to know you a little bit better via my "skills".

                                  "i am .........."meant to"       

                      P.S.,  that RJoH  is a stand up guy.  thanks,  vision

                               until further notice,  it's  france everyday

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                        Posted: July 14, 2010, 10:57 pm - IP Logged

                        Too bad, so sad.

                        You're too slow.

                        The switch is ON.

                        DD

                        ooooo,   the self proclaimed big man on campus hits and runs again.   good thing you don't play baseball,  or are tempting the california prison system,  cuz 3 strikes and your ego would totally implode all on it's own.

                        "intimidated" by someone who plays 3rd grader hit and run games?

                        that's a joke.

                        i told you i know what makes people tick,  and i gurantee you the self imploder will read everything i ever say,  because his ego won't allow him to "hit the switch".

                        the guy regularly fades in an out of what he says,  i am going to have to resort to dramamine soon

                        DD,   your not what you think you are.   from your arrogant remarks to others,  you never were.

                        not even "close"

                                    "i am .........."meant to"       

                        P.S.,  that RJoH  is a stand up guy.  thanks,  vision

                                 until further notice,  it's  france everyday


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                          Puppy runs and hit's the wall of a short leash!

                          Whatever he said, he is off the other guy's leg.

                          Ha Ha Ha

                          DD

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                            Posted: July 14, 2010, 11:12 pm - IP Logged

                            Too bad, so sad.

                            You're too slow.

                            The switch is ON.

                            DD

                            see what i mean?    i told you guys so....

                            (1)  an ego that exceeds capability,  that is even beyond ego rehab (at the moment).    runamokitis.  can't hep hissef

                            (2) i told you i "know people"

                            (3)  one thing is a slam dunk in life,  you cannot trust people that don't have a conscience,  that fade in and out of "truth" like it's on the fly interchangeable.     manufacturing it as they go along,  to suit the given situation.   yeah,  that's 'admirable"

                            (4) lying isn't a position of strength

                            i could go on and on,  but i will stop at the number 4.   

                            some people will understand why

                                        "i am .........."meant to"       

                            P.S.,  that RJoH  is a stand up guy.  thanks,  vision

                                     until further notice,  it's  france everyday

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                              if a "system" had any teeth, the one component it would have, is that every person that used it, would acheive the exact same results.

                              (See you keep proving to me more and more you know nothing about systems and there relations too lottery games,first of all a system that would give the same exact results too all players is called a "READY TOO PLAY" system where all you do is put in the past results using a formula or chart and in the next step play a ready set group of numbers provided by the system.This does not require any analysis,tracking or intrepretation of data.Here is an example from Steve Players catalog it's called the "Master Cash Redlist" system where you take the last 2 numbers drawn for example 390 and 456 then add each number by position 3+4,9+5 and 0+6 which gives you 7-14-6 then you look up this new number code and it will give you a pre-set group of numbers too play everyone that happens too use this system the way it's set up would get the SAME exact numbers and SAME exact results providing that the winning numbers were in there group from the code everyone would win at the same time.Now I PERSONALLY don't use systems like this I use systems that require total human input/interaction and since all of us are different on how we interpret data some players may get different results when using NON ready too play systems.Which means I may intrepret the data differently based on my analysis and come up with a different set of numbers too play compared too someone else for  example you may have  some scientists or  other  experts  that  will  interpret the  same data  and get DIFFERENT  results  and publish that there  results are accurate this  happens  alot and the  same thing can occur with number crunching  systems  each player is at a different skill  level.This is the difference you see not all systems are the same what you described above is acheived in READY too PLAY systems that do not require extensive number crunching you just follow a few simple steps and you get a set of numbers too play.)

                               



                              i would be more than honored for you to be the first to explain how that possibly happens, and for me to be the 1st to witness it in 8 years of being here.

                              (I've explained that too you NUMEROUS times already so this will be the LAST time when you print out a draw history of let's say 60-90 draws you will notice PATTERNS,CYCLES,TRENDS numbers that repeat from the day before,repeat 3,4 or more times in a row,numbers that do a leap frog pattern skip 1 day then hit,skip 1 day then hit,skip 1 day then hit this can happen several times in a week or more.Numbers stay out 10,12,14,21 or more days hit then skip 1 day and hit again.Another pattern is what I call a MATCH pattern where a number hits then skips 4 days hits then skips another 4 days and hits again or it can happen with a 2 day skip patter where is hits then skips 2 days and does it 1 or 2 more times.Then you have what I call shor,med,long, overdue patterns where a number is out 1-3 days(short) 4-6 days (med) and (7-9) long and overdue (10-15) days and hits and finally (1-2) numbers that hit from 2-3 days before.Now remember we are not trying too select the EXACT 3 numbers we are using this information too select a GROUP of numbers say ( 6 - 8 ) this is what I call laying a NET or TRAP in order too try and capture the winning numbers in your selected group and I tell you it does and can work once you get good at it)

                               

                               

                              how do numbers form a "pattern" in a random event? you can base it in the past or the future, that's fine by me.

                              ("You don't base it on the Future" I explained that already when the numbers have been drawn over a LONG period of time for example our daily games have been around since at least 1990 or 1991 they start repeating and clustering because when the games first start there aren't enough draws yet for the numbers too start cycling themselves out meaning exhausting the TOTAL randomness.What I mean is in respect to your complete randomness claims you are correct but after 20 yrs of drawings on a daily basis the numbers will start too exhibit non-random activity which is the patterns,cycles,trend examples I SHOWED you above this WINDOW will happen in a short period of time through out the week and you have to have a SHARP eye too see when this is gonna occur and JUMP on it.Because after that it will go back too it's pure random state but you see the numbers alternate between what I call RANDOM and NON-RANDOM activity the Random activity does last longer than the Non-random activity so that is why I AGREE with you that the numbers are random BUT!! it does have another side too it and any skilled numbers player will tell you what I AM saying the numbers can,will and do form identifiable patterns that you can EXPLOIT too your advantage.And the only way too make consistant wins is too try and use ALL the patterns which can be VERY expensive.I choose too play SMART by only jumping on SPECIFIC patterns that's why I CAN play whenever I want and not go broke.I wait until I SEE a specific pattern emerging then I "ATTACK" I may or may not stay on it for 2-3 days and sometimes I'm right and sometimes I'm wrong.When I'm wrong I will wait a few days and try again after all it's gambling a game of chance so you take a chance that you made the correct choice based on your data.)

                               



                              i know i keep harping on "memory", but memory is the only possible cement you can have in your foundation that certain balls are eventually due based on their past "history".

                              (WRONG!! it's you that cannot get past this silly concept that I NEVER ever brought up due too your LACK of understanding of system play and random number activity it's not a memory thing it's an OBSERVATION thing the PAST performance,acitivity of the numbers whatever happened before will happen again.If a number did a "LEAP FROG" pattern during the week the same will happen again with other numbers)

                               

                               

                              lottery balls are inanimate objects. therefore their eventuality "appearance" is circumstancial, and invloves zero "skill".

                              (YES they are "INANIMATE" objects but again like I have explained to you before I'm not concerned with the ACTUAL ping-pong balls I am only concerned with the DATA and in this case the number draw history.And your WRONG about the skill factor it does require SKILL too notice,identify,spot the patterns and know when too JUMP on them THAT'S where skill comes in from practicing.You see in anything we do in life if we keep studying,practicing,preparing,testing etc... you will get better at it.If I wanted to be a Card player in the Casino what do I do? TEACH myself how too play and get better with constant PRACTICE until my SKILL level increases this is really a very simple concept in fact I GOT the idea from the Casino card players that do it for a living after all there gambling too so I applied similair technigues to lottery play.They are skilled players that require expertise and know how too play the Card games yes they aren't dealing with numbers so too speak like me but the idea is still the same PRACTICE makes PERFECT or in this case MAKES you a BETTER player)

                               

                              you sound alot like the former "pick4_master". are you?

                              (Maybe I am or Maybe I'm not)

                              "If I wanted to be a Card player in the Casino what do I do? TEACH myself how too play and get better with constant PRACTICE until my SKILL level increases this is really a very simple concept in fact I GOT the idea from the Casino card players that do it for a living after all there gambling too so I applied similair technigues to lottery play.They are skilled players that require expertise and know how too play the Card games yes they aren't dealing with numbers so too speak like me but the idea is still the same PRACTICE makes PERFECT or in this case MAKES you a BETTER player)"

                              i understand the concept of "practicing" towards being a better card player,  because at least in those games,  it isn't totally random in it's  design,  in that one can come close to "predicting" what will come next,  based on what might be left in the deck,  when their is a 'limited deck" in play, etc.

                                when drawing from multiple decks,  making card counting impossible,  it's a guess.

                              plus, in a card game,  you can discard and interchange cards, and therefore increase your odds of guessing.

                              whatever the lottery spits out - your stuck with,  and you cannot predict what it will "spit out".   you can only insert the balls you wanna play pre-draw

                              the lottery ball drawings are different,  in that there is no way to predict what will come next,  because each ball has the same equal chance of appearance,  whereas in a limited deck,  you might be able to get lucky with what might draw next,  cuz in that game,  it actually is possible that what you think might come next, could.

                              with truly random drawings,  it's a total guess.

                              i just find it dizzying that you state you can find "cycles" and "variables"  that appeared in past drawings,  that help you predict the future behavior of lottery balls.

                              you keep saying "no, it's not the balls,  it's the data".   what? 

                              the numbers on the balls are what created the "past data" you refer to.   the numbers on the balls,  will also create the future of a "prediction",  because you can't pencil in a result.   

                               you are at the mercy of which ball draws when,  and you imply that you know the "when",  of when that will happen, when each ball has the equal chance of not showing up when you said it would.

                              i just still find it interesting,  and this is what i always go back to, during the back-and-forth of all the "what if's",   is that hardly anyone makes a sustained profit over expenditure in just the pick3 games alone.

                              to detail how "hard it is",  maybe you can tell the board how many 'systems' you bought and tried over the years,  vs your "success".

                              remember how you said you "collected" systems?

                              not to be rude,  but to be truthful,  wouldn't you think with that much time and money spent,  you would have 'mastered' it to make a pretty good profit way before now?

                              i can totally understand you doing that for entertainment,  but you do throw money at it,  and you approached me first about this debate we are having,  so it's a legit question

                              --------->   if it ain't random,  it can't be that hard to crack

                              just sayin

                                          "i am .........."meant to"       

                              P.S.,  that RJoH  is a stand up guy.  thanks,  vision

                                       until further notice,  it's  france everyday

                                 
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