I'm not sure if RC is right in saying that it's common sense, but it is easily reasoned out by anyone with modest intelligence and a reasonable grasp of what "random" means. For those who have either more modest intelligence or no interest in actually thinking about it, a deck of cards or a pair of dice will prove it, even if it doesn't make the reasons clear.
And, in case you aren't clear on how the world works, the lottery isn't responsible for explaining randomness or probability to the players. It's up to players to take responsibility and either educate themselves or accept the risks blindly. Maybe that's why you have to be 18 to play? If you dont understand how it works, it's your own fault.
I'm not sure if RC is right in saying that it's common sense, but it is easily reasoned out by anyone with modest intelligence and a reasonable grasp of what "random" means. For those who have either more modest intelligence or no interest in actually thinking about it, a deck of cards or a pair of dice will prove it, even if it doesn't make the reasons clear.
And, in case you aren't clear on how the world works, the lottery isn't responsible for explaining randomness or probability to the players. It's up to players to take responsibility and either educate themselves or accept the risks blindly. Maybe that's why you have to be 18 to play? If you dont understand how it works, it's your own fault.
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Quote: Originally posted by rdgrnr on Jul 18, 2010
Are you addressing me?
Who is RC?
I believe he was referring to me. I made the "common sense" comment to DD and he went off like a rocket.
Since then, I have chosen to ignore DD becauase a person just can't have a reasonable adult conversation with another person who resorts to insults and name calling.
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Quote: Originally posted by LotteryTechInc on Jul 17, 2010
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i was asking you in a common sense fashion, to explain exactly HOW you do it, so that others watching our debate can grasp relateable ideals, instead of just random terminologies used by each individual.
(Total misunderstanding I WAS explaining how the method worked I didn't realise you were asking me how I put it too use SPECIFICALY anayway in my method I follow these patterns for Pos 1-2 |( LL,HL,LH,HH ) based on draw history analysis I choose one of these pattern pairs that I think is MOST likely too appear and play the number GROUP associated with it for example if I chose the Pair "LH" it would be L=0,1,2,3,4 and H=5,6,7,8,9 next I select 6-8 numbers for Pos 3 from these numbers 0,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9 so for example I would have based on my software data analysis 0,1,4 - 5,6,9 (6 - GROUP of numbers) or 0,1,2,3 - 6,7,8,9 (8 - GROUP of numbers) the final step involves selecting my 10 filters in my software too reduce my combinations down too a more reasonable playing level. WELL that's pretty much it not hard at all as far as how I do it the only challenging part is selecting the correct Pos 1-2 Pair format.So too sum things up Pos 1-2 is L=01234 and H=56789 and Pos 3 is 014569 based on my interpretation of the draw history/software data and if my selections are correct I'm guaranteed a win by TRAPPING the winning number.You see by having MORE numbers in each position I "INCREASE" my chances of winning compared too just trying too select the EXACT 3 numbers that are drawn )
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it's pick3. that means it's paramutual, and therefore should no one should be "unwilling" to demonstrate by examples how they do it.
(I'm not unwilling I said it was just a misunderstanding and I don't need VISUALS it's too simple so no need for any visuals I explained it exactly how I USE the data I provided as far as the cycles,patterns,varibles etc....so my ABOVE detailed,quick,simple explanation should suffice I DON'T need too take up 2 pages of screen like some people do my strategy isn't complicated so it's not necessary I select a GROUP of numbers for position 1 and 2 and a GROUP of numbers for position 3 remember be talking about GROUP number selection?? well my above explanation is how it works )
i do appreciate you taking that much time to try and explain to an QP simple minded doofus like me, but being honest, the thing i STILL don't get, is how anyone can think that one number is "more likely" to come up than any other number at the same time. "past history" included, because never at anytime was it anything but random.
honestly, i don't think i will ever get past that concept that one number is "more likely" than any other to me, random means random, and therefore = "equal chance".
i realize that in like a 3 number game, a player would throw a certain blanket of numbers onto a playslip "hoping" those would be more "likely" to appear, but with the random explanation i explained that runs thru the common sense portion of my cerebral cortext, i personally still think it's a ginormous waste of time because of that equal chance edict.
systems players seem to imply the lottery games fade in and out of "randomness", and you guys know when that happens, and you seek to take advantage of it.
some of me "wishes" that were true (who wouldn't want to witness someone truly crack the lottery), but the realistic side of me, the side i run to sans emotion, sans wishful thinking......that side affords me efficientcy in life, and "that side" says it's still impossible.
to be honest, i am no where near being able to "believe that someone can", than i was 8 years ago.
tomorrow, i will give my "interest" toward somethings fourforme brought up that raised some crimson flags.
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Quote: Originally posted by rcbbuckeye on Jul 18, 2010
I believe he was referring to me. I made the "common sense" comment to DD and he went off like a rocket.
Since then, I have chosen to ignore DD becauase a person just can't have a reasonable adult conversation with another person who resorts to insults and name calling.
Should have said RCB, but I was referring to you, though the response was to DD. I'd guess that he went back under his bridge, so maybe we won't be hearing much from him anymore.
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i do appreciate you taking that much time to try and explain to an QP simple minded doofus like me, but being honest, the thing i STILL don't get,
(Just like I said before you just don't get it and NEVER will so this ends our discussion I HAVE given you plenty of explanation and examples I TRULY believe your just too stubborn too get it everything I HAVE Posted is very simple concepts that REALLY do increase your chances of winning I have hit the numbers because of it in fact compared with your quick-pick method I've done a WHOLE lot better than you have,have a good day until next time)
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Quote: Originally posted by LotteryTechInc on Jul 19, 2010
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i do appreciate you taking that much time to try and explain to an QP simple minded doofus like me, but being honest, the thing i STILL don't get,
(Just like I said before you just don't get it and NEVER will so this ends our discussion I HAVE given you plenty of explanation and examples I TRULY believe your just too stubborn too get it everything I HAVE Posted is very simple concepts that REALLY do increase your chances of winning I have hit the numbers because of it in fact compared with your quick-pick method I've done a WHOLE lot better than you have,have a good day until next time)
LT,
I'm sure Vision will bring this up but since you seem to be signing off on the note that you've "done much better" than him, I can't help asking if you would be willing to qualify that statement.
Vision has stated that he buys one Quick Pick ticket for a drawing. Is your claim based on the same buying of one ticket?
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He said the last time he won or the most he ever won was $60 and that was QUITE some time ago in comparison I have won 5 times in the past year at $200-$250 a hit so this is how I qualify my statement it doesn't matter how many tickets were purchased I'm basicaly going by how often a winning ticket was aquired.He claims that my way doesn't work or cannot work but I WON so obviously it does work and I HIT more than once.Did I make a profit?? "NO" have I won consistantly like several times a week? "NO" I play for fun nothing more but I've won more times then he has using quick-picks even my parents buy quick-picks spending $5-$10 EACH time and won about $50 in the past year so yeah any mehtod of play has the same chance of getting you a hit in the lottery games but the key is which one can bring you closer too a hit?? which one can increase your chances??? I use too play quick-picks spending $5-$20 every 2 weeks and never,ever won a dime so ever since I started using some strategic form of play I started winning.So based on my comparison of not winning with quick-picks and winning with strategy obviously something has helped me hit the numbers and it wasn't luck quick-picks are a form of luck play your at the mercy of whatever numbers aer given you by the lottery terminal)
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I just checked my tickets from last nights game the numbers drawn (1 6 4) I had (1 9 4) and on another ticket (6 1 4) unfortunately I played all STRAIGHT so I get nothing for my boxed hit so technically I hit the numbers last night even though I won't get paid the $80 for it.So again the proof is in my tickets even if I'm off by a number or a few it still shows I'm INCREASING my chances getting me closer too a HIT in the game.
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Quote: Originally posted by LotteryTechInc on Jul 19, 2010
He said the last time he won or the most he ever won was $60 and that was QUITE some time ago in comparison I have won 5 times in the past year at $200-$250 a hit so this is how I qualify my statement it doesn't matter how many tickets were purchased I'm basicaly going by how often a winning ticket was aquired.He claims that my way doesn't work or cannot work but I WON so obviously it does work and I HIT more than once.Did I make a profit?? "NO" have I won consistantly like several times a week? "NO" I play for fun nothing more but I've won more times then he has using quick-picks even my parents buy quick-picks spending $5-$10 EACH time and won about $50 in the past year so yeah any mehtod of play has the same chance of getting you a hit in the lottery games but the key is which one can bring you closer too a hit?? which one can increase your chances??? I use too play quick-picks spending $5-$20 every 2 weeks and never,ever won a dime so ever since I started using some strategic form of play I started winning.So based on my comparison of not winning with quick-picks and winning with strategy obviously something has helped me hit the numbers and it wasn't luck quick-picks are a form of luck play your at the mercy of whatever numbers aer given you by the lottery terminal)
OK, I'm not advocating for quick picks because I play any way I choose to depending on my mood.
I was just wondering if your claim was based on an even measure of play.
I think you'd agree that your claim would necessarily come with an asterisk (*).
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Quote: Originally posted by LotteryTechInc on Jul 19, 2010
I just checked my tickets from last nights game the numbers drawn (1 6 4) I had (1 9 4) and on another ticket (6 1 4) unfortunately I played all STRAIGHT so I get nothing for my boxed hit so technically I hit the numbers last night even though I won't get paid the $80 for it.So again the proof is in my tickets even if I'm off by a number or a few it still shows I'm INCREASING my chances getting me closer too a HIT in the game.
I'm not challenging the validity of your method LT, I'm here to learn.
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I know your not I'm just qualifying my statement and it is based on an EVEN measure of play I'm quite sure your aware of the many players that have won money in all the games just by playing 1 TICKET so since each method of play has the same chance of winning no matter how many tickets are purchased it's still very even if I were too buy 50 tickets and Visiondude 1 ticket he could win and I lose or vice-versa or we could both win.
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Again I understand your curiosity I'm fully aware that your not in the same frame of mind that visiondude is in so my responses are not in a defensive manner they are just explaining things based on your inquiry.So let's not get offf on the wrong foot I'm here to DISCUSS nothing more me and visiondude go way back so our discussions are gonna be quite different between us any questions you have I will do my best too answer.