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Jul 25, 2010, 1:35 pm

Quote: Originally posted by RJOh on Jul 25, 2010

Sounds like you're happy and I hope you proved your point to your satisfaction. Had you not had a winner in 20 lines, I wouldn't have considered it a lost since the overall odds of having a PB winner are 1 in 35 lines and we both did better than that. You might consider your 1+1 lucky but using my system/strategy I was expecting at least a 0+1.

Although I didn't get the better prize, I'm still satisfied with my system/strategy performance because it continues to have a win ever 20 lines or less beating the overall odds of 1:35. I've already started picking lines for Wednesday PB drawings. This time only 18 PB numbers are needed to cover the most popular bonus repeat patterns and the most popular bonus numbers overall so I will be picking 18 lines and posting the first 10 on the prediction board as usual. Good luck to you.

From the jarasan point of view, and from the scientific method, this was not conclusive. One go round ain't enough to prove anything.

Note: rj had all 5 wbs. the random generator did not.

A better barometer is the Maddog challenge.

The quick pickers avoid and diminish the challenge. They avoid it like the plague, they ignore the results. From fja's last challenge statistics update post:

Total combined	ttl	ttl
Hits & 2+0	2+0	hits	ttl
jarasan	32	20	52
Maddog10	28	22	50
konane	28	19	47
rcbuckeye	29	15	44
four4me	19	23	42
rjoh	23	19	42
fja	21	17	38
litebets27	22	16	38
raven62	22	16	38
geos*5666	22	15	37
shagadelica	21	14	35
old eagle	22	12	34
winlotta	13	20	33
sully16	13	19	32
blackdave	21	8	29
jonnybgood07	13	14	27
mymonthlypics	16	11	27
magma	17	9	26
emilyg	16	8	24
qwerty928	12	11	23
cope	13	10	23
jking	16	7	23
jordant1021	6	14	20
genome	14	6	20
cutlassbob	8	10	18
butch2030	11	7	18
Big Hitter	10	7	17
lottol	12	4	16
rojo1	7	8	15
ncpowerplayer	8	6	14
rdgrnr	8	4	12
aux8b	9	3	12
thrust	5	6	11
grave	8	2	10
pcurtis	5	4	9
mdmegamillplyr	5	3	8
j3enator	5	3	8
ohiopick3	2	5	7
diamondpalace	4	3	7
ressuccess	4	3	7
tntea	2	4	6
ariesdaram	2	4	6
marcie	6	0	6
joshuacloak	1	4	5
ladymylena	3	2	5
edge	3	2	5
sabresfanatic	5	0	5
savagegoose	2	2	4
ctech	3	1	4
chances09	1	2	3
rubyrdlady	1	2	3
louiethecat	1	2	3
x1kosmic	1	2	3
lucki723	2	1	3
sfilippo	2	1	3
turtle0747	2	1	3
thegamegrl	3	0	3
ms67plus	3	0	3
mxfreekstyle	0	2	2
pinkpansies	1	1	2
Ncjb	1	1	2
flatransplant	1	1	2
benmas	1	1	2
billybouy	1	1	2
lady g98	1	1	2
theotherone	1	1	2
jonnie	0	1	1
olsaman	0	1	1
joker831	0	1	1
swampfox	0	1	1
billy9fingers	0	1	1
grandmadec	0	1	1
victorl3ichiban	0	1	1
rickhuntersv	1	0	1
diluxe1	1	0	1
luvrh	1	0	1
megamillionaire	1	0	1
mrscottia	1	0	1
floydian	1	0	1
friendship	1	0	1
tinfoilhat85705	1	0	1
gopher07	1	0	1
guru101	1	0	1
tigerangel	1	0	1
slayer	1	0	1
cassdreams	1	0	1
dr65	1	0	1
jackpot	1	0	1
rocket455	1	0	1

The top pickers are definitely not using quick picks. You need to do your test for a minimum of 50 draws.

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Jul 25, 2010, 2:49 pm

These are the numbers drawn in Illinois Lotto last night (6/52)

1 3 4 13 37 40

Nobody hit it, quick pick or self pick. If there's a system that would have predicted those nnumbers, especially 1 3 4 13 for a Pick 6 6-52 game I want to see it. Oh wait, no one played those numbers.

PS

jarasan,

I play mostly quick picks. You assume much as usual. I don't "avoid" the challenge, like I've said, I can see where it can be fun, but personally I see no point in posting numbers I'm not going to play for real, so I just don't participate. For some reason it seems to upset yopu that 99% of the board doesn't, or at least in your mind they "avoid" it.

That's the saem reason I don't make predictions. Even the best predictors would be sent back down to the minors.

To each their own.

Those who run the lotteries love it when players look for consistency in something that's designed not to have any. So many systems, so many theories, so few jackpot winners.

There is one and only one 'proven' system, and that is to book the action. No matter the game, let the players pick their own losers.
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Jul 25, 2010, 3:08 pm

From the jarasan point of view, and from the scientific method, this was not conclusive. One go round ain't enough to prove anything.

Note: rj had all 5 wbs. the random generator did not.

Jarasan,

What you say is true, more go rounds would be more conclusive. On my own, I do these kinds of tests all the time to evaluate and improve my system/strategy.

As for having all 5 WBs, as noted in an earlier post, my system was set to try and use every number in a pool of 59 numbers so getting all 5 WB was expected. I continue to evaluate that setting because using a smaller pool with only 3 or 4 of the winning number might be better if those numbers are more likely to end up in the same line.

I assume others who are working on a system are doing similar tests on their own.

_________________________

Coin Toss,

My system would have never picked that combination with the settings I had. I was picking combinations that in the last 161 drawings had:

matched 0 = 88-113
matched 1 = 44-61
matched 2 = 4-11
matched 3 = 0-1
numbers in combination that had total hits = 58-80
numbers in combination that had total positional hits = 18-37
I will re-evaluating those settings before the next drawing.

* you don't need to buy every combination, just the winning ones *
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Jul 25, 2010, 3:46 pm

Quote: Originally posted by Coin Toss on Jul 25, 2010
These are the numbers drawn in Illinois Lotto last night (6/52)

1 3 4 13 37 40

Nobody hit it, quick pick or self pick. If there's a system that would have predicted those nnumbers, especially 1 3 4 13 for a Pick 6 6-52 game I want to see it. Oh wait, no one played those numbers.

PS

jarasan,

I play mostly quick picks. You assume much as usual. I don't "avoid" the challenge, like I've said, I can see where it can be fun, but personally I see no point in posting numbers I'm not going to play for real, so I just don't participate. For some reason it seems to upset yopu that 99% of the board doesn't, or at least in your mind they "avoid" it.

That's the saem reason I don't make predictions. Even the best predictors would be sent back down to the minors.

To each their own.

Wow. Impressive. Illinois Lotto. Nothing to do with Powerball. Nothing to do with anything I wrote nothing to do with the last 8 posts. You are very observant, thanks CT! You are a lot of fun, why do you even bother, seriously!?

I wish we had any 6 of anything.

I am not upset about anything, you are assuming a lot more than I.

You just can't comprehend what rj, myself and others are doing to win and GET BETTER TO BEAT THE DANG GAME.

How on Earth do you think anything is designed or built now without it being tested or simulated for FUN?

Do you think the guys working on fusion reactors are building reactors for FUN?

Do you think the guys that built the 767 did it on a whim or a QP?

Was going to the moon a prediction?

Was Venus de Milo an approximation? Was Mona Lisa's smile done by guessing or practice? How in the world did they clone a dog?

Get with it, if you can't hang with the big dogs get off the porch.

As far as 99% of people not participating, is expected, remember who we elected to the presidency? People for the most part now couldn't grow corn much less distill it into squeezins. They are lazy and want immediate satisfaction, it don't work like that in the real world.

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Jul 25, 2010, 6:46 pm

TRY AGAIN. ILLINOIS LOTTO.

TRY AGAIN, SPACE CADET, YOU ARE SPACE CADET

(Tron video game)

Silly me, I would have thought anyone on this board seeing 6/52 would have figured that out. You're being so quick to jump to an erroneeous conclusion and eagerness to tear up someone else's post is extremely revealing.

I suggest you move to New Harmony, Indiana. That town has a very interesting history.

As one of the tour guides says, "While the eggheads sat inside and ponderd the world's problems and solutions the hogs outside ate up that coming winter's food."

"You just can't comprehend what rj, myself and others are doing to win and GET BETTER TO BEAT THE DANG GAME."

Show us something. Show somebody something. for all your talk every drawing that goes by just proves you won't admit what you're up against. But hey, the lotteries love players willing to bet big bucks not to admit it.

PS

The only people that are that serious about the lottery are the people running the lottery. Anyone who is playing it and not playing it for fun needs counseling. 1-800-GAMBLER

Those who run the lotteries love it when players look for consistency in something that's designed not to have any. So many systems, so many theories, so few jackpot winners.

There is one and only one 'proven' system, and that is to book the action. No matter the game, let the players pick their own losers.
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Jul 25, 2010, 6:46 pm

Quote: Originally posted by Coin Toss on Jul 25, 2010
These are the numbers drawn in Illinois Lotto last night (6/52)

1 3 4 13 37 40

Nobody hit it, quick pick or self pick. If there's a system that would have predicted those nnumbers, especially 1 3 4 13 for a Pick 6 6-52 game I want to see it. Oh wait, no one played those numbers.

PS

jarasan,

I play mostly quick picks. You assume much as usual. I don't "avoid" the challenge, like I've said, I can see where it can be fun, but personally I see no point in posting numbers I'm not going to play for real, so I just don't participate. For some reason it seems to upset yopu that 99% of the board doesn't, or at least in your mind they "avoid" it.

That's the saem reason I don't make predictions. Even the best predictors would be sent back down to the minors.

To each their own.

These are the numbers drawn in Illinois Lotto last night (6/52)

1 3 4 13 37 40

These are the numbers drawn in Ohio Classic Lotto last night (6/49)

1 3 4 5 26 47

Such combinations are more common than you think.

* you don't need to buy every combination, just the winning ones *
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Jul 25, 2010, 6:59 pm

Quote: Originally posted by RJOh on Jul 25, 2010
These are the numbers drawn in Illinois Lotto last night (6/52)

1 3 4 13 37 40

These are the numbers drawn in Ohio Classic Lotto last night (6/49)

1 3 4 5 26 47

Such combinations are more common than you think.

RJOH,

Oh I know they show up a lot, and usually when they do get hit it's by someone playing birthdays or anniversaries or a quick pick. It seems the lower the numbers the more likely it was a self- pick, especially when they're all low.

But people tracking hot cold, overdue, etc...usually don't go all "one-sided" so to speak.

Those who run the lotteries love it when players look for consistency in something that's designed not to have any. So many systems, so many theories, so few jackpot winners.

There is one and only one 'proven' system, and that is to book the action. No matter the game, let the players pick their own losers.
jarasan

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Jul 25, 2010, 7:18 pm

Quote: Originally posted by Coin Toss on Jul 25, 2010
RJOH,

Oh I know they show up a lot, and usually when they do get hit it's by someone playing birthdays or anniversaries or a quick pick. It seems the lower the numbers the more likely it was a self- pick, especially when they're all low.

But people tracking hot cold, overdue, etc...usually don't go all "one-sided" so to speak.

Then why don't you play them? Brainiac. (Superman comics)

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Jul 25, 2010, 10:19 pm

Quote: Originally posted by RJOh on Jul 25, 2010
Sounds like you're happy and I hope you proved your point to your satisfaction. Had you not had a winner in 20 lines, I wouldn't have considered it a lost since the overall odds of having a PB winner are 1 in 35 lines and we both did better than that. You might consider your 1+1 lucky but using my system/strategy I was expecting at least a 0+1.

Although I didn't get the better prize, I'm still satisfied with my system/strategy performance because it continues to have a win ever 20 lines or less beating the overall odds of 1:35. I've already started picking lines for Wednesday PB drawings. This time only 18 PB numbers are needed to cover the most popular bonus repeat patterns and the most popular bonus numbers overall so I will be picking 18 lines and posting the first 10 on the prediction board as usual. Good luck to you.

"Sounds like you're happy and I hope you proved your point to your satisfaction".

the "im happy" part only has to do with the fact that you were the only one that finally came to the table.

it could care less that i won (technically speaking).

because my aim in life isn't always the win column.

the only thing that matters to me is doing the right thing, at the moment it calls for me to do it.

if that choice ends up in the win column on someones else's scoreboard, so be it

i was just "happy" you had the guts to do it, when hundreds of others could have, but didn't.

and while i am thinking about "doing the right thing".........despite our "differences" (between four4me and i), i must make sure to publically thank four4me for "helping" to facilitate the didggery doo. thanks, four

in life, you pick the truth, over people AND agenda. if "it's" true, you either do it, or you say it.

i could have just as easily passed up "thanking" four4me

"i am .........."meant to"

P.S., that RJoH is a stand up guy. thanks, vision

until further notice, it's france everyday

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Jul 25, 2010, 10:34 pm

Quote: Originally posted by jarasan on Jul 25, 2010

From the jarasan point of view, and from the scientific method, this was not conclusive. One go round ain't enough to prove anything.

Note: rj had all 5 wbs. the random generator did not.

A better barometer is the Maddog challenge.

The quick pickers avoid and diminish the challenge. They avoid it like the plague, they ignore the results. From fja's last challenge statistics update post:

Total combined	ttl	ttl
Hits & 2+0	2+0	hits	ttl
jarasan	32	20	52
Maddog10	28	22	50
konane	28	19	47
rcbuckeye	29	15	44
four4me	19	23	42
rjoh	23	19	42
fja	21	17	38
litebets27	22	16	38
raven62	22	16	38
geos*5666	22	15	37
shagadelica	21	14	35
old eagle	22	12	34
winlotta	13	20	33
sully16	13	19	32
blackdave	21	8	29
jonnybgood07	13	14	27
mymonthlypics	16	11	27
magma	17	9	26
emilyg	16	8	24
qwerty928	12	11	23
cope	13	10	23
jking	16	7	23
jordant1021	6	14	20
genome	14	6	20
cutlassbob	8	10	18
butch2030	11	7	18
Big Hitter	10	7	17
lottol	12	4	16
rojo1	7	8	15
ncpowerplayer	8	6	14
rdgrnr	8	4	12
aux8b	9	3	12
thrust	5	6	11
grave	8	2	10
pcurtis	5	4	9
mdmegamillplyr	5	3	8
j3enator	5	3	8
ohiopick3	2	5	7
diamondpalace	4	3	7
ressuccess	4	3	7
tntea	2	4	6
ariesdaram	2	4	6
marcie	6	0	6
joshuacloak	1	4	5
ladymylena	3	2	5
edge	3	2	5
sabresfanatic	5	0	5
savagegoose	2	2	4
ctech	3	1	4
chances09	1	2	3
rubyrdlady	1	2	3
louiethecat	1	2	3
x1kosmic	1	2	3
lucki723	2	1	3
sfilippo	2	1	3
turtle0747	2	1	3
thegamegrl	3	0	3
ms67plus	3	0	3
mxfreekstyle	0	2	2
pinkpansies	1	1	2
Ncjb	1	1	2
flatransplant	1	1	2
benmas	1	1	2
billybouy	1	1	2
lady g98	1	1	2
theotherone	1	1	2
jonnie	0	1	1
olsaman	0	1	1
joker831	0	1	1
swampfox	0	1	1
billy9fingers	0	1	1
grandmadec	0	1	1
victorl3ichiban	0	1	1
rickhuntersv	1	0	1
diluxe1	1	0	1
luvrh	1	0	1
megamillionaire	1	0	1
mrscottia	1	0	1
floydian	1	0	1
friendship	1	0	1
tinfoilhat85705	1	0	1
gopher07	1	0	1
guru101	1	0	1
tigerangel	1	0	1
slayer	1	0	1
cassdreams	1	0	1
dr65	1	0	1
jackpot	1	0	1
rocket455	1	0	1

The top pickers are definitely not using quick picks. You need to do your test for a minimum of 50 draws.

"From the jarasan point of view, and from the scientific method, this was not conclusive. One go round ain't enough to prove anything".

which is why i noted post challenge that someone would possibly bring this up, which is also why i stated i am more than willing to go more "rounds", etc. vision ain't no cut-and-runner. lol

*********************************************************************************************

"A better barometer is the Maddog challenge.

The quick pickers avoid and diminish the challenge. They avoid it like the plague, they ignore the results. From fja's last challenge statistics update post".

easy. don't lump vision into that pile.

i already stated, my aim was this thread - until someone came to the table (to which many notable players were watching this, but refused to participate).

i also noted (if you remember) i am a responsible member of LP, and i don't go around "hunting people", even though i am fully loaded for LP bear, and there are plenty of hunting grounds in here, iffin i was.

i ain't afraid of nuttin. you know that.

sose i don't make enemies, if you can wrassle me an invite over to the MADDOG challenge, you let me know.

i will be more than happy to throw my hat into that (or any other) ring,. should someone hand me an "invitation"

the last thing anyone wants to do is challenge me, in that i will accept.

because not only am i a "doer", i am also a "finisher"

go get me an invite, and tell me what i need to do. i will show up in a vintage light blue tux, ala "dumb and dumber"

"i am .........."meant to"

P.S., that RJoH is a stand up guy. thanks, vision

until further notice, it's france everyday

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Jul 25, 2010, 10:44 pm

Quote: Originally posted by visiondude on Jul 25, 2010
"Sounds like you're happy and I hope you proved your point to your satisfaction".

the "im happy" part only has to do with the fact that you were the only one that finally came to the table.

it could care less that i won (technically speaking).

because my aim in life isn't always the win column.

the only thing that matters to me is doing the right thing, at the moment it calls for me to do it.

if that choice ends up in the win column on someones else's scoreboard, so be it

i was just "happy" you had the guts to do it, when hundreds of others could have, but didn't.

and while i am thinking about "doing the right thing".........despite our "differences" (between four4me and i), i must make sure to publically thank four4me for "helping" to facilitate the didggery doo. thanks, four

in life, you pick the truth, over people AND agenda. if "it's" true, you either do it, or you say it.

i could have just as easily passed up "thanking" four4me

I said what i said because i had too this post is getting way to long.

I knew RJOh would lend a hand being a senior member and he has a good program for using all the balls.

But i agree one drawing isn't a real evaluation of the differences between quick picks versus self picks.

Maddogs mega million and powerball challenge are a testament to that, many of us use self picks and this challenge has went on for a long time yet no one has matched all 5 white balls and the mega or powerball number. Yet.

Thank you for understanding i was just trying to help push this along.

Big John says. You don't hit the number. The number hits you!!!!

I'm not Big John, I'm Four4me, Big John's a friend.
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Jul 26, 2010, 10:54 am

It's widely believed that QP's win more jackpots because more QP's are sold than are Player Picks.

What if the state lotteries didnt offer an RNG and there was no such thing as a QP? What if the only way to play was a PP? I would think that those players that currently ask for QP's, would simply randomly choose squares on the play slip. (which is in reality a QP)

My guess is that the number of jackpot's won would be evenly split between those that play their own personal set of numbers, or players that track numbers/employ a system etc, and those that randomly filled out a playslip.

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Jul 26, 2010, 11:29 am

Quote: Originally posted by visiondude on Jul 25, 2010
"From the jarasan point of view, and from the scientific method, this was not conclusive. One go round ain't enough to prove anything".

which is why i noted post challenge that someone would possibly bring this up, which is also why i stated i am more than willing to go more "rounds", etc. vision ain't no cut-and-runner. lol

*********************************************************************************************

"A better barometer is the Maddog challenge.

The quick pickers avoid and diminish the challenge. They avoid it like the plague, they ignore the results. From fja's last challenge statistics update post".

easy. don't lump vision into that pile.

i already stated, my aim was this thread - until someone came to the table (to which many notable players were watching this, but refused to participate).

i also noted (if you remember) i am a responsible member of LP, and i don't go around "hunting people", even though i am fully loaded for LP bear, and there are plenty of hunting grounds in here, iffin i was.

i ain't afraid of nuttin. you know that.

sose i don't make enemies, if you can wrassle me an invite over to the MADDOG challenge, you let me know.

i will be more than happy to throw my hat into that (or any other) ring,. should someone hand me an "invitation"

the last thing anyone wants to do is challenge me, in that i will accept.

because not only am i a "doer", i am also a "finisher"

go get me an invite, and tell me what i need to do. i will show up in a vintage light blue tux, ala "dumb and dumber"

No invite needed to play the Challenges. Just jump in and play. I play them for fun. I sometimes use LP's RNG, sometimes I play QP's that I bought, sometimes numbers I picked from random.

For several years I played numbers based on positional frequency. This year, I'm playing mostly random numbers just to do something different.

JUST LOOK AT THE ODDS OF ANY JACKPOT GAME, THAT WILL TELL YOU EVERYTHING YOU NEED TO KNOW

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Jul 26, 2010, 11:57 am

Quote: Originally posted by jarasan on Jul 25, 2010

From the jarasan point of view, and from the scientific method, this was not conclusive. One go round ain't enough to prove anything.

Note: rj had all 5 wbs. the random generator did not.

A better barometer is the Maddog challenge.

The quick pickers avoid and diminish the challenge. They avoid it like the plague, they ignore the results. From fja's last challenge statistics update post:

Total combined	ttl	ttl
Hits & 2+0	2+0	hits	ttl
jarasan	32	20	52
Maddog10	28	22	50
konane	28	19	47
rcbuckeye	29	15	44
four4me	19	23	42
rjoh	23	19	42
fja	21	17	38
litebets27	22	16	38
raven62	22	16	38
geos*5666	22	15	37
shagadelica	21	14	35
old eagle	22	12	34
winlotta	13	20	33
sully16	13	19	32
blackdave	21	8	29
jonnybgood07	13	14	27
mymonthlypics	16	11	27
magma	17	9	26
emilyg	16	8	24
qwerty928	12	11	23
cope	13	10	23
jking	16	7	23
jordant1021	6	14	20
genome	14	6	20
cutlassbob	8	10	18
butch2030	11	7	18
Big Hitter	10	7	17
lottol	12	4	16
rojo1	7	8	15
ncpowerplayer	8	6	14
rdgrnr	8	4	12
aux8b	9	3	12
thrust	5	6	11
grave	8	2	10
pcurtis	5	4	9
mdmegamillplyr	5	3	8
j3enator	5	3	8
ohiopick3	2	5	7
diamondpalace	4	3	7
ressuccess	4	3	7
tntea	2	4	6
ariesdaram	2	4	6
marcie	6	0	6
joshuacloak	1	4	5
ladymylena	3	2	5
edge	3	2	5
sabresfanatic	5	0	5
savagegoose	2	2	4
ctech	3	1	4
chances09	1	2	3
rubyrdlady	1	2	3
louiethecat	1	2	3
x1kosmic	1	2	3
lucki723	2	1	3
sfilippo	2	1	3
turtle0747	2	1	3
thegamegrl	3	0	3
ms67plus	3	0	3
mxfreekstyle	0	2	2
pinkpansies	1	1	2
Ncjb	1	1	2
flatransplant	1	1	2
benmas	1	1	2
billybouy	1	1	2
lady g98	1	1	2
theotherone	1	1	2
jonnie	0	1	1
olsaman	0	1	1
joker831	0	1	1
swampfox	0	1	1
billy9fingers	0	1	1
grandmadec	0	1	1
victorl3ichiban	0	1	1
rickhuntersv	1	0	1
diluxe1	1	0	1
luvrh	1	0	1
megamillionaire	1	0	1
mrscottia	1	0	1
floydian	1	0	1
friendship	1	0	1
tinfoilhat85705	1	0	1
gopher07	1	0	1
guru101	1	0	1
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dr65	1	0	1
jackpot	1	0	1
rocket455	1	0	1

The top pickers are definitely not using quick picks. You need to do your test for a minimum of 50 draws.

Note: rj had all 5 wbs. the random generator did not.

The big difference is, RJ knew their results before the drawing by using all the wbs.

I really wanted to see the RNG pick all 5 numbers with the bonus number just to show how useless it was if they weren't going to actually play the combos. Had I run the 46 combo 2 if 5 of 56 number wheel, the results would have shown each of the wbs. somewhere in the 46 combos at least 3 times and at least one 2 number match. And because there are 46 combos, the results would have shown all 46 bonus balls.

"From the jarasan point of view, and from the scientific method, this was not conclusive. One go round ain't enough to prove anything."

If the results are know before the experiment, what is the point of having more experiments?

I watched a woman digging through her purse for change while a line was forming so she could buy one PB ticket. Don't know if she won anything or not, but if she did, she has a ticket she can cash. Lotteries don't payoff for posting a one number match plus the bonus ball on a message board.

Even if "Dude" had played the combos from the RNG, he still had to fill out playslips so it would be a PP and useless because the topic is player picks vs quick picks. When the PB website said QPs win 70% to 80% of all the drawings, it didn't mean any combos from any RNG.

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Jul 26, 2010, 12:03 pm

Quote: Originally posted by rcbbuckeye on Jul 26, 2010
No invite needed to play the Challenges. Just jump in and play. I play them for fun. I sometimes use LP's RNG, sometimes I play QP's that I bought, sometimes numbers I picked from random.

For several years I played numbers based on positional frequency. This year, I'm playing mostly random numbers just to do something different.

like i said, i sure don't mind doing there, what i did here.

trouble is, what i did here, was to prove a point, and it was thread specific.

what i will do there is rain on their happy parade, which won't make me "friends" there

right now they are happy contented bunch at the MADDOG challenge. if i show up........probably not so much.

because i am a nice guy......that's my consideration.

it sure wouldn't be because i was "afraid to".

but, if it turns out it's the right thing for me to do, i will

i always will

"i am .........."meant to"

P.S., that RJoH is a stand up guy. thanks, vision

until further notice, it's france everyday

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