(1) lets say your "theory" was correct, in that within the pool of "wanna be's", there actually was a person born in bethelehem, the problem becomes as to whether or not they proved their "claim" of being the Messiah, by doing things only attributable TO the Messiah, and there is only one man who has collectively fit that title throughout history, and it was accoplished thru collective fulfillment.
none of your other "examples" have even come close to those collective accomplishments
i could go downtown where i live and eventually find someone who claims he is the "messiah", but only one man proved it
bring for the actual examples of men who were born in bethelehem that claimed to be the "messiah", and had God atrributes.
i say that's a manufactured lie, where mine is provable thru prerecorded history.
until you show an actual person, my history replication takes the first category
does it bother you that your supposed "example" isn't even on the radar screen of history as far as having a spotlight on them currently?
(2) nope. sorry. eyewitness testimony recorded by someone on scene during stated "act".
and, not only an eyewitness on scene varification, but more importantly a prediction that it WOULD HAPPEN.....some 500 years (around 500B.C.) before it happened by the prophet zachariah.
round 2 goes to history, with an honorable mention to zachariah.
(3) nope again. shoot, even mel gibson in his most heinous drunken state knows this one, and accurately replicated it the movie. why? how could he know, he wasn't there.
matthew was there, saw it himself and wrote about it.
the prophet isaiah was there also. well, sort of. isaiah prophesied this unpredictable reactive human emotion would happen to the true Messiah, as he foretold of that particular event some 700 years B.C.
joker, you cannot even predict what you will do tomorrow with 100% accuracy
round 3 goes to replicated prerecorded history (again)
(4) well, you quit at #3, and good move on your part, because i can do what i did with numbers 1 -3 to the rest of the some 293 prophecies.
i AM a pretty resourceful guy, blessed with an abundance of staying to the end fortiTUDE, so i obviously "can"
you see, even you can't argue against prerecorded history, because it's well, "prerecorded".
your best "hope" is to con a Christian into not using "history", therefore hoping that history can magically "disappear".
trouble is, whatever you feel about the bible, one things entirely 100% true, is that it's an "historical document" that one can easily read for themselves to see if isaiah and zachariah actually stated those things PRE Christ.
scorecard recap, true history got 3 tonight, and you got zip
that is until you can bring forth this "pretender messiah" from bethelehem you say you have in the bag
you won't, because there isn't one
guys like you MANUFACTURE "history"
some guy, who didn't even live in that culture at that time, supposedly knew some guy would spit on another "guy" in some anger reactive manner, some 700 years prior?
semi impressive, but hey, someones bound to spit on someone sometime from now until 700 years from now, so that stand alone fact is really / truthfully only "semi impressive".
what moves it from the "semi impressive" category into the straight up ASTOUNDING "category", is all the other prophecies that came to pass as well.
collectively speaking, each and every one adds up to being who He claimed to be.
one time occurances. you may be able to write them off as "coincidence"
not 300 of them.
300 with 100% accuracy i might add
not unless you lie to yourself "it isn't true".
now do you wish you didn't allow me to "teach", joker?
or would you like me to go on, because you cannot help yourself?
be glad to
you made the assretion there was some dude claiming to have lived in bethelehem PRE Christ, who claimed to be the messiah..........BRING THAT "DUDE" FORTH